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"It’s so wrong how performers use the wealth afforded to them to greatly reduce their output. It’s the fans that gave you this. And you pay them back with nothing. Remember Peter Kay announcing a tour then pulling out, making up some crap. Adele too. Wrong " Yes just being annoying isn’t she for cancelling. Jeez!! | |||
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"It’s so wrong how performers use the wealth afforded to them to greatly reduce their output. It’s the fans that gave you this. And you pay them back with nothing. Remember Peter Kay announcing a tour then pulling out, making up some crap. Adele too. Wrong " I dont think she had any choice but to pull out. She is clearly very upset for letting her fans down, i'm sure true fans will show compasion and understand | |||
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"Wow. She's really got to you hasn't she " Hehe Can’t bare it Hope her next album is called 60 | |||
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"I’m sure Peter Kay didn’t “make up some crap” Adele has a very good reason as to why I don’t really think they are slacking off at all they are human too and come under a lot of pressure… " This Whatever you think, you just don’t know. You don’t know what is happening with other people, it’s unfair to judge when we don’t know the situation. | |||
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"I can’t believe she created a global pandemic just to get out of performing. Absolute fucking liberties! Wait, is this thread another trap??… " It was Adele not the bats!! Brb | |||
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"As much as I dispise her i think Adele's reason is genuine enough. It's also the perfect excuse to pull the tour if she just didn't fancy doing it. " And let’s not forget her UK ‘tour’ 2 nights in London Way to go | |||
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"Wierd take. Artists accrue their wealth- the tiny proportion that make money out of music - by fans purchasing product. It's not 'given' to them." Huh? | |||
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"Wierd take. Artists accrue their wealth- the tiny proportion that make money out of music - by fans purchasing product. It's not 'given' to them. Huh?" His post seems quite easy to understand. Which part are you struggling with ? | |||
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"Just because they earn lots of money doesn’t mean they owe us anything. You could turn this argument on its head and complain about the bands than tour non stop and phone in performance after performance with identical banter, occasionally forgetting what town they are in. When I need a week off, no one I’m a forum denigrates me for it. Stuff changes and gets cancelled for loads of reasons. Whether the artist is loaded or a total newcomer. Let’s stop thinking we are entitled to have people do exactly what we want because they are famous or rich. It’s a spoilt brat attitude, in my humbled flawed and personal opinion " As performers, surely they should want to perform, create. Please their fans After all Without the fans They have nothing | |||
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" As performers, surely they should want to perform, create. Please their fans After all Without the fans They have nothing " Want to, yes. Feel obligated to? No. Making art isn’t like stacking shelves, you can’t just grind out 8 hours a day. Whether you write books, paint, sing, no one who loves creating finds it easy or enjoys phoning it in. My favourite author had awful writers block and although he wrote a multinational bestseller that kept him rich for life, he only completed 6 books in his entire life. And only published 2 in the last 25 years of that. But he was struggling to write that entire time. We, as fans, should admire and respect their output for what it is, and not demand more music, new songs, another tour. If the stars line up for them to create and perform, we are enriched by that. We lose nothing when They don’t, just as we lose nothing if they never started. | |||
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"Mercy/merch… When was the last time people here bought a film or album rather than streamed it?" Never download a song and never will. Always buy the hard copy. | |||
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"Mercy/merch… When was the last time people here bought a film or album rather than streamed it?" Last week And the week before And the week before……… | |||
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"I’ll stick to my rock bands who appreciate fans Tour and put and new music regularly " So you're not a fan of Adele's then? | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? " Prove it | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it " You think they are lying? | |||
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"I’ll stick to my rock bands who appreciate fans Tour and put and new music regularly So you're not a fan of Adele's then? " She has an amazing voice Pity she starved her fans of it that got her where she is now | |||
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"Do you like Guns n Roses OP?" First album yes Then they turned into arseholes So I moved on | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? " So wouldn’t this mean it was the delivery company are the ones stacking off, by the OPs standards. | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying?" I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it " What, like get the crew to do live covid tests on the television? I remember quite clearly taking a photo of my own vomit when I called in sick for work, just in case they didn't believe me (I rarely call in sick) As I sent the photo I realised just how fucking toxic the management were that I thought it was necessary to justify my illness and prove it, or they'd think badly of me. So yeah, I'd say you're in the toxic category. I don't know what's gonna happen about reimbursement. Yes, it's shit but at the same time I think anyone travelling or spending large amounts of money on things that rely on the presence of other people (whether they're artists, sportspeople, friends or family) are taking a risk. I'm covid positive at the moment. A few of us at work have been hit. It's still the world at the moment. | |||
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"I’ll stick to my rock bands who appreciate fans Tour and put and new music regularly So you're not a fan of Adele's then? She has an amazing voice Pity she starved her fans of it that got her where she is now " Her fans have enjoyed her output so far, they don't own her or have any entitlement to her providing new material. | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue " I think that last line says a lot | |||
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"It’s so wrong how performers use the wealth afforded to them to greatly reduce their output. It’s the fans that gave you this. And you pay them back with nothing. Remember Peter Kay announcing a tour then pulling out, making up some crap. Adele too. Wrong " Are you actually an Adele fan? | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue I think that last line says a lot" If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away | |||
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"Lets be fair her the OP woke up this morning and was bored, he picked a subject that he knew nothing about and as the saying goes "he ran up the flag pole" and we have all bitten, entertained him for a couple of hours and now its probably time for his nap Move along nothing to see " Ahhh the trolls are waking up | |||
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"Did you feel the same way when Alter Bridge cancelled their whole tour?" Alter Bridge last played the uk in December 2019 No tours have been announced since in uk or Europe So……. | |||
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"It’s so wrong how performers use the wealth afforded to them to greatly reduce their output. It’s the fans that gave you this. And you pay them back with nothing. Remember Peter Kay announcing a tour then pulling out, making up some crap. Adele too. Wrong " Peter keys child was seriously ill | |||
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"Lets be fair her the OP woke up this morning and was bored, he picked a subject that he knew nothing about and as the saying goes "he ran up the flag pole" and we have all bitten, entertained him for a couple of hours and now its probably time for his nap Move along nothing to see Ahhh the trolls are waking up " I feel now i have been accepted into the forums as i have never been called a troll before .... I have arrived | |||
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"They cancelled their 2020 touring plans though due to uncertainties around covid did they not?" In America yes Covid was a very different beast I’m sure you’ll agree Every cancelled everything in 2020 | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue I think that last line says a lot If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away " All you've done is belittle Adele? But that's ok is it? | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue I think that last line says a lot If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away All you've done is belittle Adele? But that's ok is it?" There’s a huge difference And if you can’t understand why I’m sorry for you | |||
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"If you all go back and look I did say this thread was a trap. I’m not saying I told you so, but.." | |||
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"Adele personally called me last night and I was supposed to pass the message on, anyway sorry for any inconvenience caused, a helpline will be set up soon to air your grievances" She didn’t mention the faulty watch she sold me did she? I’m fuming | |||
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"They cancelled their 2020 touring plans though due to uncertainties around covid did they not? In America yes Covid was a very different beast I’m sure you’ll agree Every cancelled everything in 2020 " Did they personally refund their fans? | |||
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"They cancelled their 2020 touring plans though due to uncertainties around covid did they not? In America yes Covid was a very different beast I’m sure you’ll agree Every cancelled everything in 2020 Did they personally refund their fans? " I’m confused What’s that got to do with anything that’s been said Who said anything about an artist personally refunding tickets Please tell me | |||
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"You had 6 gigs cancelled this year didnt you OP? " Yes | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue I think that last line says a lot If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away All you've done is belittle Adele? But that's ok is it? There’s a huge difference And if you can’t understand why I’m sorry for you " Crushed. | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue I think that last line says a lot If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away All you've done is belittle Adele? But that's ok is it? There’s a huge difference And if you can’t understand why I’m sorry for you Crushed." I had to do that to some gigs last weekend for my sticky toffee pudding | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue I think that last line says a lot If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away All you've done is belittle Adele? But that's ok is it? There’s a huge difference And if you can’t understand why I’m sorry for you Crushed. I had to do that to some gigs last weekend for my sticky toffee pudding " Figs | |||
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"They cancelled their 2020 touring plans though due to uncertainties around covid did they not? In America yes Covid was a very different beast I’m sure you’ll agree Every cancelled everything in 2020 Did they personally refund their fans? I’m confused What’s that got to do with anything that’s been said Who said anything about an artist personally refunding tickets Please tell me " My apologies. It was someone else on another thread about thd talented lady | |||
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"They cancelled their 2020 touring plans though due to uncertainties around covid did they not? In America yes Covid was a very different beast I’m sure you’ll agree Every cancelled everything in 2020 Did they personally refund their fans? I’m confused What’s that got to do with anything that’s been said Who said anything about an artist personally refunding tickets Please tell me My apologies. It was someone else on another thread about thd talented lady " | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue I think that last line says a lot If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away " How about no? | |||
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"You had 6 gigs cancelled this year didnt you OP? Yes " Did they all prove they had a valid reason? Did you ask, or just accept it? Did you open a thread about any of them? Little insights are often great indicators of what you’re really thinking | |||
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"I read that the show isn't ready due to delivery problems and half the crew down with Covid. What would you recommend she did? Prove it You think they are lying? I’m saying something isn’t quite right here And if I was going to do such a vegas stint I’d be ensuring my crew isolate until it was show time As for delivery delays I’ve no clue I think that last line says a lot If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away How about no? " Perfect | |||
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"You had 6 gigs cancelled this year didnt you OP? Yes Did they all prove they had a valid reason? Did you ask, or just accept it? Did you open a thread about any of them? Little insights are often great indicators of what you’re really thinking " You really don’t want to go their Suffice to say Full explanation And very valid reason Jump off the high horse If I need to explain You’ll look foolish | |||
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"You had 6 gigs cancelled this year didnt you OP? Yes Did they all prove they had a valid reason? Did you ask, or just accept it? Did you open a thread about any of them? Little insights are often great indicators of what you’re really thinking You really don’t want to go their Suffice to say Full explanation And very valid reason Jump off the high horse If I need to explain You’ll look foolish " Oh I’m always ok with looking foolish. Crack on… | |||
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"You had 6 gigs cancelled this year didnt you OP? Yes Did they all prove they had a valid reason? Did you ask, or just accept it? Did you open a thread about any of them? Little insights are often great indicators of what you’re really thinking You really don’t want to go their Suffice to say Full explanation And very valid reason Jump off the high horse If I need to explain You’ll look foolish Oh I’m always ok with looking foolish. Crack on…" The guitarist 7 month old daughter who is downs had open heart surgery last week Good enough? | |||
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"Have you written to your MP. They maybe able to change the law." My favourite posts are these Where the person thinks they’re hilarious Awkward | |||
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"You had 6 gigs cancelled this year didnt you OP? Yes Did they all prove they had a valid reason? Did you ask, or just accept it? Did you open a thread about any of them? Little insights are often great indicators of what you’re really thinking You really don’t want to go their Suffice to say Full explanation And very valid reason Jump off the high horse If I need to explain You’ll look foolish Oh I’m always ok with looking foolish. Crack on… The guitarist 7 month old daughter who is downs had open heart surgery last week Good enough? " All 6 gigs? Amazing. Hmmm, but wait… When Peter Kay’s kids was ill and he cancelled you said he’s just trotted out some rubbish … | |||
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"You had 6 gigs cancelled this year didnt you OP? Yes Did they all prove they had a valid reason? Did you ask, or just accept it? Did you open a thread about any of them? Little insights are often great indicators of what you’re really thinking You really don’t want to go their Suffice to say Full explanation And very valid reason Jump off the high horse If I need to explain You’ll look foolish Oh I’m always ok with looking foolish. Crack on… The guitarist 7 month old daughter who is downs had open heart surgery last week Good enough? All 6 gigs? Amazing. Hmmm, but wait… When Peter Kay’s kids was ill and he cancelled you said he’s just trotted out some rubbish …" “Made up some crap”. Now I’m not saying you’ve made up some crap. But what if someone did say that? Do I look foolish enough yet? | |||
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"You had 6 gigs cancelled this year didnt you OP? Yes Did they all prove they had a valid reason? Did you ask, or just accept it? Did you open a thread about any of them? Little insights are often great indicators of what you’re really thinking You really don’t want to go their Suffice to say Full explanation And very valid reason Jump off the high horse If I need to explain You’ll look foolish Oh I’m always ok with looking foolish. Crack on… The guitarist 7 month old daughter who is downs had open heart surgery last week Good enough? All 6 gigs? Amazing. Hmmm, but wait… When Peter Kay’s kids was ill and he cancelled you said he’s just trotted out some rubbish … “Made up some crap”. Now I’m not saying you’ve made up some crap. But what if someone did say that? Do I look foolish enough yet? " Wow | |||
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" Wow" “If you’re unable to add a comment without belittling Go away” It just writes itself | |||
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"Of all the arguments on here I've seen this is up there with the most pointless. Put your little willys away and agree to disagree. Unless you're both financially affected by the gigs being pulled why do you care?" Unfortunately Given the weather today My Willy has disappeared | |||
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"It’s so wrong how performers use the wealth afforded to them to greatly reduce their output. It’s the fans that gave you this. And you pay them back with nothing. Remember Peter Kay announcing a tour then pulling out, making up some crap. Adele too. Wrong " Peter Kay I could understand you being a bit peaved but reckon you had a lucky escape with the Adele cancellation | |||
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"It’s just lounge life aye. All I’ve done is quote his own responses to himself, and even kept them in perfect context, he’s basically arguing with his shadow I’m just here for the cake and bad takes x" If the Peter Kay child thing is true ( I can’t find any evidence) but if he was sick then I take back what I said Which still makes your response to the reason I gave for my cancellations absolutely inexcusable and disgusting | |||
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"It’s so wrong how performers use the wealth afforded to them to greatly reduce their output. It’s the fans that gave you this. And you pay them back with nothing. Remember Peter Kay announcing a tour then pulling out, making up some crap. Adele too. Wrong Peter Kay I could understand you being a bit peaved but reckon you had a lucky escape with the Adele cancellation" Lol | |||
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" If the Peter Kay child thing is true ( I can’t find any evidence) but if he was sick then I take back what I said Which still makes your response to the reason I gave for my cancellations absolutely inexcusable and disgusting " Couple of points I guess Mainly, please quote the bit that’s disgusting. Because I’m not the one who said it was a made up crap reason when someone else was in pretty much the exact same scenario. All I did was point out your inconsistency and ask how you’d feel if someone called it crap when you use it, like you did when Peter Kay used it. Secondarily, why do you need proof? Did you offer proof? If it’s so important to you, surely you’ll be consistent. I guess it boils down to say what you like when they’re sufficiently unlikely to reply (Hi Peter if you’re reading this!), but get wilfully offended when that’s used against you. I’m happy with everything I’ve said being watertight for politeness and rule abiding in this thread. Genuinely happy to correspond, publicly, and be judged by anyone who reads it. | |||
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"It’s so wrong how performers use the wealth afforded to them to greatly reduce their output. It’s the fans that gave you this. And you pay them back with nothing. Remember Peter Kay announcing a tour then pulling out, making up some crap. Adele too. Wrong " You are so right, performers should work whenever they're told to... they have absolutely no right at all to decide for themselves when they are OK to work or not. Cal | |||
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"Have you written to your MP. They maybe able to change the law. My favourite posts are these Where the person thinks they’re hilarious Awkward " Not awkward at all. Sure there are templates available, where you fill in the blank names..etc | |||
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"She deserves the death penalty for this " She’s doing everyone a favour - so boring just stands there singing in an over dramatic way like some 70s cabaret act. At least pink can sing properly and does interesting stuff like fly around on zip wires, Amy wine house used to get hammered, play guitar and had real latent - Adele us boring as fuck and crap | |||
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