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"Let him pay, it’s not going to take a Bobby off the street as there are none, and those that take this level of security detail are probably sat around between beats to an extent. When someone nicks your car and no-one turns up it’s never gonna be cause they’re on harry duty…" | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire." Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston" | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston" I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us!" Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston | |||
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"Just a stuck up toff who wants to 'look' important because he has security. The way I look at it, you found your new home, stay there cause we bloody well don't want you or your Meh!-gan here, as we're obviously to nosey for your liking. Get your pointy little nose back to your daddy, James Hewitt and stay there. " Im not a royalist but thats actually quite unpleasant | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston" Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. | |||
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"He should pay his own security. Hard to see why UK taxpayers should fund him when he's opted to turn his back on public duties - and the country in general for that matter. Personally, I'd rather he stayed well away." he's offering to pay | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. " His private security team can't be armed in the UK. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK." What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. " The police are often hired out for large events, or they were pre covid. It just has to be agreed between police bosses and event organisers. I don't think that can be applied to armed though, which I suspect is the issue here. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. " UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston | |||
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"Not seen any of the details, is he trying to hire armed police for a UK visit?" Essentially, yes. He has said that the UK is too dangerous for him and his family to visit without police protection. | |||
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"Is Harry wanting armed Police to protect him? If he doesn't then why doesn't he just bring his own that he currently has in America, some famous people bring their own...Beyonce, Snoop Dog, Eminem and others too. " It wouldn't be legal for them to carry firearms on UK soil. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston" Armed are definitely better if you think it's likely you're going to be involved in some kind of protracted shootout, but I don't see Harry landing in that situation. For anything else the need for a gun seems unnecessary, won't stop a lone wolf style attack, or clear a mob. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston Armed are definitely better if you think it's likely you're going to be involved in some kind of protracted shootout, but I don't see Harry landing in that situation. For anything else the need for a gun seems unnecessary, won't stop a lone wolf style attack, or clear a mob. " They cited being papped as an illustration they needed protection (!) They clearly think the gun is mightier than the pen | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston Armed are definitely better if you think it's likely you're going to be involved in some kind of protracted shootout, but I don't see Harry landing in that situation. For anything else the need for a gun seems unnecessary, won't stop a lone wolf style attack, or clear a mob. " You don't see it? Thank fuck you're not in his protection detail. Their job is to see every conceivable event and be properly equipped to deal with it. If that means being armed, so be it. Hence a civilian detail is no use to him in the UK. Winston | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston Armed are definitely better if you think it's likely you're going to be involved in some kind of protracted shootout, but I don't see Harry landing in that situation. For anything else the need for a gun seems unnecessary, won't stop a lone wolf style attack, or clear a mob. You don't see it? Thank fuck you're not in his protection detail. Their job is to see every conceivable event and be properly equipped to deal with it. If that means being armed, so be it. Hence a civilian detail is no use to him in the UK. Winston" Should they request tanks and full hazmat suits too? Just incase someone conceives a full scale military and chemical attack is a possibility. All the other mega wealthy/influential/controversial figures in this country manage just fine with private security, he'll be fine. | |||
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" All the other mega wealthy/influential/controversial figures in this country manage just fine with private security, he'll be fine. " Wealth is irrelevant really, it's the fact that he would be an amazing target for any terrorist organisation - can you imagine what would happen if he were kidnaqqed? Or what kudos it would provide to them if he were shot/attacked? Way more than if they went for any other non-royal or senior politico VIP in the country. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston Armed are definitely better if you think it's likely you're going to be involved in some kind of protracted shootout, but I don't see Harry landing in that situation. For anything else the need for a gun seems unnecessary, won't stop a lone wolf style attack, or clear a mob. They cited being papped as an illustration they needed protection (!) They clearly think the gun is mightier than the pen " Perhaps they should be armed with a Mont Blanc fountain pen and a bottle of Quink? | |||
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"Just a stuck up toff who wants to 'look' important because he has security. The way I look at it, you found your new home, stay there cause we bloody well don't want you or your Meh!-gan here, as we're obviously to nosey for your liking. Get your pointy little nose back to your daddy, James Hewitt and stay there. " What a delightful comment..speak for yourself please.. and maybe tone down the anger.. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston Armed are definitely better if you think it's likely you're going to be involved in some kind of protracted shootout, but I don't see Harry landing in that situation. For anything else the need for a gun seems unnecessary, won't stop a lone wolf style attack, or clear a mob. You don't see it? Thank fuck you're not in his protection detail. Their job is to see every conceivable event and be properly equipped to deal with it. If that means being armed, so be it. Hence a civilian detail is no use to him in the UK. Winston Should they request tanks and full hazmat suits too? Just incase someone conceives a full scale military and chemical attack is a possibility. All the other mega wealthy/influential/controversial figures in this country manage just fine with private security, he'll be fine. " Now you're just being silly to try and make a point. Winston | |||
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"Just a stuck up toff who wants to 'look' important because he has security. The way I look at it, you found your new home, stay there cause we bloody well don't want you or your Meh!-gan here, as we're obviously to nosey for your liking. Get your pointy little nose back to your daddy, James Hewitt and stay there. " WOW! x | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston" Exactly! x | |||
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"The media are constantly writing bullshit stories about Meghan. Inferring she will be happy they can't come here, inferring she stole him away etc etc. They incite hatred then sit back and the public believes it all. The media have created a dangerous situation. Harry didn't ask for this, he was born into it. It's a fucking disgrace. " This. ^ Winston | |||
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"The media are constantly writing bullshit stories about Meghan. Inferring she will be happy they can't come here, inferring she stole him away etc etc. They incite hatred then sit back and the public believes it all. The media have created a dangerous situation. Harry didn't ask for this, he was born into it. It's a fucking disgrace. " x | |||
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"The media are constantly writing bullshit stories about Meghan. Inferring she will be happy they can't come here, inferring she stole him away etc etc. They incite hatred then sit back and the public believes it all. The media have created a dangerous situation. Harry didn't ask for this, he was born into it. It's a fucking disgrace. " | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston Armed are definitely better if you think it's likely you're going to be involved in some kind of protracted shootout, but I don't see Harry landing in that situation. For anything else the need for a gun seems unnecessary, won't stop a lone wolf style attack, or clear a mob. You don't see it? Thank fuck you're not in his protection detail. Their job is to see every conceivable event and be properly equipped to deal with it. If that means being armed, so be it. Hence a civilian detail is no use to him in the UK. Winston Should they request tanks and full hazmat suits too? Just incase someone conceives a full scale military and chemical attack is a possibility. All the other mega wealthy/influential/controversial figures in this country manage just fine with private security, he'll be fine. Now you're just being silly to try and make a point. Winston" A little, but was just taking your point that every conceivable scenario should be planned for to the upper limit. | |||
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"The media are constantly writing bullshit stories about Meghan. Inferring she will be happy they can't come here, inferring she stole him away etc etc. They incite hatred then sit back and the public believes it all. The media have created a dangerous situation. Harry didn't ask for this, he was born into it. It's a fucking disgrace. " People can probably all agree that media role is questionable. Harry himself has used media as personal platform to vent against his family. But that is conflating the question should he take the Met (or his family?) to court over armed protection. There are lots of very rich, very public and very contentious people (and their families) who do not have publically funded armed officers escorting them wherever they go. The UK is not the US (and US won't pay either). He will be risk assessed by the police like any other private citizen, and given appropriate advice. His birth gave him lots of privileges and rights - dictating what the Police do is not one of them. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request. What are people's views on this? Mine are you stepped down. You aren't royal. Even royals don't get it on unofficial engagements. The Met Police aren't private security and for hire. Stepping down doesn't remove the target on his back. Winston I was just about to say that. He’s a bit more at risk then the rest of us! Stepping down didn't make him invisible. Winston Then he can do what any other private citizen can do when they feel unsafe, hire a private security firm rather than trying to hire the Met. His private security team can't be armed in the UK. What are the chances, in this country, that any security force would be better if they are armed. Also setting a precedent that the police can be hired could create a while bunch of murky situations in the future. UK close protection officers are among the most respected in the world. Mostly because their first resort isn't to a firearm. I'd say a security detail are better if they're armed. Shouting "stop shooting at me" is a lot less effective than returning fire. Winston Armed are definitely better if you think it's likely you're going to be involved in some kind of protracted shootout, but I don't see Harry landing in that situation. For anything else the need for a gun seems unnecessary, won't stop a lone wolf style attack, or clear a mob. You don't see it? Thank fuck you're not in his protection detail. Their job is to see every conceivable event and be properly equipped to deal with it. If that means being armed, so be it. Hence a civilian detail is no use to him in the UK. Winston Should they request tanks and full hazmat suits too? Just incase someone conceives a full scale military and chemical attack is a possibility. All the other mega wealthy/influential/controversial figures in this country manage just fine with private security, he'll be fine. Now you're just being silly to try and make a point. Winston A little, but was just taking your point that every conceivable scenario should be planned for to the upper limit. " Threat and risk assessment, international, national, regional and local determine equipment requirements. Theres no one size fits all solution. Winston | |||
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"Is Harry wanting armed Police to protect him? If he doesn't then why doesn't he just bring his own that he currently has in America, some famous people bring their own...Beyonce, Snoop Dog, Eminem and others too. It wouldn't be legal for them to carry firearms on UK soil." Question - does this also apply to the likes if US secret service operatives in the Uk on a state visit? | |||
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"Is Harry wanting armed Police to protect him? If he doesn't then why doesn't he just bring his own that he currently has in America, some famous people bring their own...Beyonce, Snoop Dog, Eminem and others too. It wouldn't be legal for them to carry firearms on UK soil. Question - does this also apply to the likes if US secret service operatives in the Uk on a state visit? " They would need permission. Winston | |||
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"It's a difficult one. I can understand him wanting to protect his family, and I don't doubt that there are some nasties who want to do him and his family harm. I don't particularly like the guy or his wife but this visit may be the last time he sees his grandmother, and she seems far to frail to visit them. I think maybe they compromise - have a paid for private security team, overseen by a few very experienced Met police officers and just one of them armed at any time." They can't work like that. | |||
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"Is Harry wanting armed Police to protect him? If he doesn't then why doesn't he just bring his own that he currently has in America, some famous people bring their own...Beyonce, Snoop Dog, Eminem and others too. It wouldn't be legal for them to carry firearms on UK soil. Question - does this also apply to the likes if US secret service operatives in the Uk on a state visit? " They are one of the very few allowed to carry over here if it's presidential protection. | |||
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"So I'm sure we have all seen Prince Harry and his security request." No not seen, and really do not care. It amazes me how idiots like him still elicit gossip amongst the masses | |||
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