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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So , a friend of mine recently came out to me saying he doesn’t feel neither of the binary genders, and wanted to change his pronouns to hi/viz

Which baffled me A LOT. Because it totally makes no sense and I’m not sure how to use these really…

I’m trying my hardest to understand and obviously respect his request, but it’s really difficult… to get used to made up pronouns like that…

It’s not like we are used to pronouns like Ze/Shim/Tree/Bunny or in this case Hi

And I being a bad friend to him… or let me rephrase .. VIZ???!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like a hi-viz jacket?? You sure he's not having you on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can’t tell if this is a joke or not…

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By *parrow77Man
over a year ago

cheshire

No your not bad friend it is hard recently people deciding to change and more things coming up.

Not heard of viz yet least you’re trying and still there as friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like a hi-viz jacket?? You sure he's not having you on? "

It’s this .. ^

Like someone saying their pronouns are kit / kat

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Like a hi-viz jacket?? You sure he's not having you on?

It’s this .. ^

Like someone saying their pronouns are kit / kat "

Exactly! Like swapping the she and he to those is quite a process mentally… and I’m kinda afraid of getting it wrong as well

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It can be a little daunting breaking habits but when your heart is in the right place, you'll be fine. Share the love

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi/Viz?

They just want to be seen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi/Viz?

They just want to be seen "

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Like a hi-viz jacket?? You sure he's not having you on? "

This was my first thought too.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I’m kinda afraid of getting it wrong as well "

If a true friend suddenly says they want to be known as Hi/Viz then they should seriously expect the odd slip-up.

If they freak at a mistake, they are not a friend but a pronoun drama fool

In my opinion

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading


"Like a hi-viz jacket?? You sure he's not having you on?

It’s this .. ^

Like someone saying their pronouns are kit / kat

Exactly! Like swapping the she and he to those is quite a process mentally… and I’m kinda afraid of getting it wrong as well "

If it is an honest mistake and you are trying, I think it is jerky on their part to get upset.

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By *LheadMan
over a year ago

Chester


"So , a friend of mine recently came out to me saying he doesn’t feel neither of the binary genders, and wanted to change his pronouns to hi/viz

Which baffled me A LOT. Because it totally makes no sense and I’m not sure how to use these really…

I’m trying my hardest to understand and obviously respect his request, but it’s really difficult… to get used to made up pronouns like that…

It’s not like we are used to pronouns like Ze/Shim/Tree/Bunny or in this case Hi

And I being a bad friend to him… or let me rephrase .. VIZ???!"

Nothing but attention seeking bullshit.

Two biological genders, fact!

At the heart of all of this nonsense is the desperate need to "Feel" different for the sole purpose of illiciting a reaction (aka attention) from others in a futile attempt to fill the bottomless void in their lives perpetuated by the cancer which is Social Media.

I really don't give a shit what they want to call themselves just don't drag me into your mental self loathing.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

Don't sweat over. If they are a good freind they'll know you are their freind first and foremost and know that if you don't get it right in their eyes your not doing it deliberately. It's hard for a society that is not used to such niche terminologies and identification to adjust over night from a society that has failed to acknowledge in the past. As long as your freind knows you respect them and are trying for them that should be enough. Empathy is a two way street.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So , a friend of mine recently came out to me saying he doesn’t feel neither of the binary genders, and wanted to change his pronouns to hi/viz

Which baffled me A LOT. Because it totally makes no sense and I’m not sure how to use these really…

I’m trying my hardest to understand and obviously respect his request, but it’s really difficult… to get used to made up pronouns like that…

It’s not like we are used to pronouns like Ze/Shim/Tree/Bunny or in this case Hi

And I being a bad friend to him… or let me rephrase .. VIZ???!

Nothing but attention seeking bullshit.

Two biological genders, fact!

At the heart of all of this nonsense is the desperate need to "Feel" different for the sole purpose of illiciting a reaction (aka attention) from others in a futile attempt to fill the bottomless void in their lives perpetuated by the cancer which is Social Media.

I really don't give a shit what they want to call themselves just don't drag me into your mental self loathing. "

I think Douglas Murray summed it up well in an interview I saw a while ago..."I identify as 'look-at-me'"

Having said that, it's your mate so entirely up to you to play along or not. They're behaving like an entitled brat though if they take the huff if you make a genuine mistake when trying to remember to use made up words.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So , a friend of mine recently came out to me saying he doesn’t feel neither of the binary genders, and wanted to change his pronouns to hi/viz

Which baffled me A LOT. Because it totally makes no sense and I’m not sure how to use these really…

I’m trying my hardest to understand and obviously respect his request, but it’s really difficult… to get used to made up pronouns like that…

It’s not like we are used to pronouns like Ze/Shim/Tree/Bunny or in this case Hi

And I being a bad friend to him… or let me rephrase .. VIZ???!

Nothing but attention seeking bullshit.

Two biological genders, fact!

At the heart of all of this nonsense is the desperate need to "Feel" different for the sole purpose of illiciting a reaction (aka attention) from others in a futile attempt to fill the bottomless void in their lives perpetuated by the cancer which is Social Media.

I really don't give a shit what they want to call themselves just don't drag me into your mental self loathing. "

I mean there seem to be quite a rise of non-binary who seem to create new pronouns, don’t even know how and why?

Like, I remember this actor who’s now asking to change his pronouns to tree / tree self because … we come from trees …

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By *LheadMan
over a year ago

Chester


".

I think Douglas Murray summed it up well in an interview I saw a while ago..."I identify as 'look-at-me'"

Having said that, it's your mate so entirely up to you to play along or not. They're behaving like an entitled brat though if they take the huff if you make a genuine mistake when trying to remember to use made up words."

EXACTLY!

It's complete nosense, has nothing to do with "Societies fillings" and everything to do with the desperate need to be different.

If you don't feel neither male or female great thats up to you, it doesn't follow there should be 45 millions ways to describe that as a "pro noun" then expect the majority who don't feel the same way to conform to that.

Oh, God help anyone who gets it wrong Ffs!

Bullshit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hi/Viz?

They just want to be seen "

this made me giggle as….

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I mean there seem to be quite a rise of non-binary who seem to create new pronouns, don’t even know how and why"

They think it is trendy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I mean there seem to be quite a rise of non-binary who seem to create new pronouns, don’t even know how and why

They think it is trendy."

I think some are jumping on the band wagon, because it’s “edgy”, especially seem to be the case among youngsters.

Like back in my day, there used to be Emos but anyway. That’s another story

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By *andyh78Man
over a year ago

manchester


"I’m kinda afraid of getting it wrong as well

If a true friend suddenly says they want to be known as Hi/Viz then they should seriously expect the odd slip-up.

If they freak at a mistake, they are not a friend but a pronoun drama fool

In my opinion "

“Pronoun drama fool”, love it, I will be using that.

In my politically incorrect opinion some people have to much time on their hands to sit and worry about what they are. I must admit that at times I have had doubts about my sexuality, state of mind, path that life is taking, identity etc but I have never had enough time go to deeply into it. I certainly won’t be spending any time worrying about my pronoun.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I have friends with teenagers and they all have to have several 'labels'.

Whether it be 'social anxiety' or painful shyness as it was known, or some form of non m/f gender.

I had to ask the 'pansexual' one what it meant. It resonated with me as I wasn't interested in anything sexual until I was a proper adult

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By *andyh78Man
over a year ago

manchester

I thought that asexual was not being interested in sexual activity and pansexual was something else.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"So , a friend of mine recently came out to me saying he doesn’t feel neither of the binary genders, and wanted to change his pronouns to hi/viz

Which baffled me A LOT. Because it totally makes no sense and I’m not sure how to use these really…

I’m trying my hardest to understand and obviously respect his request, but it’s really difficult… to get used to made up pronouns like that…

It’s not like we are used to pronouns like Ze/Shim/Tree/Bunny or in this case Hi

And I being a bad friend to him… or let me rephrase .. VIZ???!"

Are you absolutely sure it's not a joke?

I have no problem with non binary, there's someone at work who is non binary and requested pronouns they/them.

In my opinion choosing random words as pronouns is just silly, and it's unreasonable to expect anyone to remember. I also think this sort of thing opens non binary people to ridicule and makes accepting it more difficult.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

When addressing your friend directly, presumably you would just use the name (e.g. Maud or Ermintrude or Wolfgang or Ethelred) rather than use third person pronouns? Does that help a bit?!?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When addressing your friend directly, presumably you would just use the name (e.g. Maud or Ermintrude or Wolfgang or Ethelred) rather than use third person pronouns? Does that help a bit?!?!"

Funny you asked… he’s actually asked to refer/speak to him in third person, and he started talking about himself in third person too, using his preferred pronouns. Which is SUPER odd!

Like, very very weird and confusing if I must say.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

He has told me off a few times and shouted “PRONOUNS” at me when making a few genuine mistakes…

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire


"He has told me off a few times and shouted “PRONOUNS” at me when making a few genuine mistakes… "

All for people being whoever they want to be, express yourself in any way that makes you happy. However….your friend comes across as a right dick

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"When addressing your friend directly, presumably you would just use the name (e.g. Maud or Ermintrude or Wolfgang or Ethelred) rather than use third person pronouns? Does that help a bit?!?!

Funny you asked… he’s actually asked to refer/speak to him in third person, and he started talking about himself in third person too, using his preferred pronouns. Which is SUPER odd!

Like, very very weird and confusing if I must say."

I personally find that odd, yes. The old saying comes to mind: "she - is the cat's mother". I was educated to use people's names if they were present/in earshot.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"He has told me off a few times and shouted “PRONOUNS” at me when making a few genuine mistakes… "

I think they need to be more reasonable and stop acting like a dick

They're lucky you didn't just laugh... I'm pretty sure I would have

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"I mean there seem to be quite a rise of non-binary who seem to create new pronouns, don’t even know how and why

They think it is trendy."

this is what I think too. Trendy, different, wanting attention.

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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago

Near Marlborough

It’s really not difficult to understand. Or respect.

V x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theeee worst friend in Europe. How do you sleep at night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When addressing your friend directly, presumably you would just use the name (e.g. Maud or Ermintrude or Wolfgang or Ethelred) rather than use third person pronouns? Does that help a bit?!?!

Funny you asked… he’s actually asked to refer/speak to him in third person, and he started talking about himself in third person too, using his preferred pronouns. Which is SUPER odd!

Like, very very weird and confusing if I must say."

This sounds like too much hard work for a genuine friendship to be honest.

I couldn't be arsed but I can be a right cow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When addressing your friend directly, presumably you would just use the name (e.g. Maud or Ermintrude or Wolfgang or Ethelred) rather than use third person pronouns? Does that help a bit?!?!

Funny you asked… he’s actually asked to refer/speak to him in third person, and he started talking about himself in third person too, using his preferred pronouns. Which is SUPER odd!

Like, very very weird and confusing if I must say.

This sounds like too much hard work for a genuine friendship to be honest.

I couldn't be arsed but I can be a right cow."

You? A cow? Noooo

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By *adInLiverpoolMan
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL


"Like a hi-viz jacket?? You sure he's not having you on? "

I honestly thought the same...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When addressing your friend directly, presumably you would just use the name (e.g. Maud or Ermintrude or Wolfgang or Ethelred) rather than use third person pronouns? Does that help a bit?!?!

Funny you asked… he’s actually asked to refer/speak to him in third person, and he started talking about himself in third person too, using his preferred pronouns. Which is SUPER odd!

Like, very very weird and confusing if I must say.

This sounds like too much hard work for a genuine friendship to be honest.

I couldn't be arsed but I can be a right cow.

You? A cow? Noooo "

A cow with a low bullshit tolerance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

^ stand back

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By *adInLiverpoolMan
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL


"So , a friend of mine recently came out to me saying he doesn’t feel neither of the binary genders, and wanted to change his pronouns to hi/viz

Which baffled me A LOT. Because it totally makes no sense and I’m not sure how to use these really…

I’m trying my hardest to understand and obviously respect his request, but it’s really difficult… to get used to made up pronouns like that…

It’s not like we are used to pronouns like Ze/Shim/Tree/Bunny or in this case Hi

And I being a bad friend to him… or let me rephrase .. VIZ???!"

He just wants attention, he’s the bad friend. These people need to be told no.

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By *adInLiverpoolMan
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL


"When addressing your friend directly, presumably you would just use the name (e.g. Maud or Ermintrude or Wolfgang or Ethelred) rather than use third person pronouns? Does that help a bit?!?!

Funny you asked… he’s actually asked to refer/speak to him in third person, and he started talking about himself in third person too, using his preferred pronouns. Which is SUPER odd!

Like, very very weird and confusing if I must say.

This sounds like too much hard work for a genuine friendship to be honest.

I couldn't be arsed but I can be a right cow.

You? A cow? Noooo

A cow with a low bullshit tolerance. "

Don’t forget a nice pair of legs as well....

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