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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! " That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!! | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! " No fine on top, do the course that is it. Just don't do it again I did the specs awareness course and found it pretty interesting tbf | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! No, it’s either a fine and 3 points or the price of the course " Ahh ok, thanks | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! No fine on top, do the course that is it. Just don't do it again I did the specs awareness course and found it pretty interesting tbf" very true, as did I, was peed off at first but learned a lot. | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!!" Really?!!....Oh no! I've heard it's a pain! | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!!" You do find out some roads are faster than you thought though which is good | |||
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"When they ask you if any situations ever justify speeding, don’t say ‘yes - when you need to get away’." | |||
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"you can't do the course again for 3 years, so speeding next time and it's points and fine." good to know! | |||
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"I was caught doing 310 in 30 didn't get a fine just told off for flying low " ......I envy your career! | |||
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"When they ask you if any situations ever justify speeding, don’t say ‘yes - when you need to get away’." This And don't waffle on, because the longer people waffle the longer you are there! There was a guy on mine and he kept arguing with the tutor and pulling the "I've been driving for 50 years I should know" card. In the end everyone told him to 'shhhh' I thought he was hilarious | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!!" If it was fun everyone would be speeding.. | |||
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"When they ask you if any situations ever justify speeding, don’t say ‘yes - when you need to get away’. This And don't waffle on, because the longer people waffle the longer you are there! There was a guy on mine and he kept arguing with the tutor and pulling the "I've been driving for 50 years I should know" card. In the end everyone told him to 'shhhh' I thought he was hilarious " .....x | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!! If it was fun everyone would be speeding.." Decent . Makes perfect sense now. | |||
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"When they ask you if any situations ever justify speeding, don’t say ‘yes - when you need to get away’. This And don't waffle on, because the longer people waffle the longer you are there! There was a guy on mine and he kept arguing with the tutor and pulling the "I've been driving for 50 years I should know" card. In the end everyone told him to 'shhhh' I thought he was hilarious .....x" I think the standard response to that one is ' The fact that you haven't learned much in 50 years of driving is why you're sitting here..' | |||
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"When they ask you if any situations ever justify speeding, don’t say ‘yes - when you need to get away’. This And don't waffle on, because the longer people waffle the longer you are there! There was a guy on mine and he kept arguing with the tutor and pulling the "I've been driving for 50 years I should know" card. In the end everyone told him to 'shhhh' I thought he was hilarious .....x I think the standard response to that one is ' The fact that you haven't learned much in 50 years of driving is why you're sitting here..' " That would be pretty unfair seeing as everyone else was there for the same thing....Yep wrong to speed but he took his punishment. | |||
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"you can't do the course again for 3 years, so speeding next time and it's points and fine." I got done 5 years ago and was told couldn't do course again for 7 years. Has it changed then? Or is it different in Wales? | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! " No, no fine on top. I'm doing one this month. | |||
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"you can't do the course again for 3 years, so speeding next time and it's points and fine. I got done 5 years ago and was told couldn't do course again for 7 years. Has it changed then? Or is it different in Wales?" 3 years. | |||
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"you can't do the course again for 3 years, so speeding next time and it's points and fine. I got done 5 years ago and was told couldn't do course again for 7 years. Has it changed then? Or is it different in Wales? 3 years. " | |||
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"Your fine is you pay for the course which will educate you my arse no points on license or fine to pay just 6 hours you will neve r get back" They aren't 6 hours long | |||
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"you can't do the course again for 3 years, so speeding next time and it's points and fine. I got done 5 years ago and was told couldn't do course again for 7 years. Has it changed then? Or is it different in Wales?" I did one about 5 years ago and was told I wouldn’t be offered another for 3 years. That’s the other thing to remember, they are discretionary, they don’t have to offer you one at all. | |||
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"Your fine is you pay for the course which will educate you my arse no points on license or fine to pay just 6 hours you will neve r get back They aren't 6 hours long " Think the one I did was about 4 or 41/2, with a coffee and biscuit break. | |||
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"I nearly got done for being to slow would you believe it of a traffic cop." It's equally as dangerous. | |||
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"I nearly got done for being to slow would you believe it of a traffic cop. It's equally as dangerous. " Especially on Motorways | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!!" It is amazing how many people on the course bitch about it. Simple answer, don't speed. | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!!It is amazing how many people on the course bitch about it. Simple answer, don't speed." Why thank you for your words of wisdom, I really appreciate it xx | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! No fine on top, do the course that is it. Just don't do it again I did the specs awareness course and found it pretty interesting tbf very true, as did I, was peed off at first but learned a lot." I decided that I was going to get something out of the course and found it very informative. Downside was having to listen to a few on the course moan and bitch about how they shouldn't be there ! | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!!It is amazing how many people on the course bitch about it. Simple answer, don't speed. Why thank you for your words of wisdom, I really appreciate it xx" My pleasure. | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! That course is pure and utterly soul destroying!!" I found it quite informative, they should do it as part of the test in my opinion. | |||
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"It can keep your licence clean, if you haven't been caught in a while, so it will lessen your insurance premiums. I will add that there are plenty of speed cameras on country roads that have no speed signage. This needs addressing, as it is down to guess work that get people into trouble. It's not difficult to put a speed limit sign up next to the camera sign is it. Before you say that dual carriageways are national, that's not always true. The speed on these roads drops to 30 mph around Luton Airport and around Northampton can be as low as 50mph, on the roads I've been down. There are really bad country roads, that are single tracked and falling to bits that are signposted national speed limit. Speeding on those unlit and unkempt roads is a lot more dangerous than a well lit newish, 3 lane dual carriageway." How to recognise what the speed limit is on the road you are driving was dealt with on the speed awareness course It's something I've found very useful | |||
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"When they ask you if any situations ever justify speeding, don’t say ‘yes - when you need to get away’. This And don't waffle on, because the longer people waffle the longer you are there! There was a guy on mine and he kept arguing with the tutor and pulling the "I've been driving for 50 years I should know" card. In the end everyone told him to 'shhhh' I thought he was hilarious " Exactly this! I sat quietly, waiting for it to be over. It's online at the moment anyway I think. | |||
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"It can keep your licence clean, if you haven't been caught in a while, so it will lessen your insurance premiums. I will add that there are plenty of speed cameras on country roads that have no speed signage. This needs addressing, as it is down to guess work that get people into trouble. It's not difficult to put a speed limit sign up next to the camera sign is it. Before you say that dual carriageways are national, that's not always true. The speed on these roads drops to 30 mph around Luton Airport and around Northampton can be as low as 50mph, on the roads I've been down. There are really bad country roads, that are single tracked and falling to bits that are signposted national speed limit. Speeding on those unlit and unkempt roads is a lot more dangerous than a well lit newish, 3 lane dual carriageway. How to recognise what the speed limit is on the road you are driving was dealt with on the speed awareness course It's something I've found very useful" The only way to recognise the speed limit IS down to the type of road, but the actual signs, that are meant to be there. I have dual carriageways near me that are 60, national, 40 and even 50 mph. This is where the assumption will catch you out. Is it so difficult for the authorities to put up a few more speed limit signs? This is a simple question. | |||
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"It can keep your licence clean, if you haven't been caught in a while, so it will lessen your insurance premiums. I will add that there are plenty of speed cameras on country roads that have no speed signage. This needs addressing, as it is down to guess work that get people into trouble. It's not difficult to put a speed limit sign up next to the camera sign is it. Before you say that dual carriageways are national, that's not always true. The speed on these roads drops to 30 mph around Luton Airport and around Northampton can be as low as 50mph, on the roads I've been down. There are really bad country roads, that are single tracked and falling to bits that are signposted national speed limit. Speeding on those unlit and unkempt roads is a lot more dangerous than a well lit newish, 3 lane dual carriageway. How to recognise what the speed limit is on the road you are driving was dealt with on the speed awareness course It's something I've found very useful The only way to recognise the speed limit IS down to the type of road, but the actual signs, that are meant to be there. I have dual carriageways near me that are 60, national, 40 and even 50 mph. This is where the assumption will catch you out. Is it so difficult for the authorities to put up a few more speed limit signs? This is a simple question." The type of road has no bearing on the speed limit. The only thing that determines the speed limit is the signage. If there is no signage it is national limit (60) When a speed limit is in place there will be a sign stating the limit. This then has to be repeated within a specific distance ( so many meters, but I can’t remember the figure) If the speed limit changes there will be a new sign. If the signs are not repeated at the required interval then it reverts back to national limit. So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. | |||
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"When they ask you if any situations ever justify speeding, don’t say ‘yes - when you need to get away’. This And don't waffle on, because the longer people waffle the longer you are there! There was a guy on mine and he kept arguing with the tutor and pulling the "I've been driving for 50 years I should know" card. In the end everyone told him to 'shhhh' I thought he was hilarious .....x I think the standard response to that one is ' The fact that you haven't learned much in 50 years of driving is why you're sitting here..' " There’s always one of those on the course , a total prick who thinks they have the right to speed or didn’t do it or something usually a man. I’ve done a lot over the years and they are good but haven’t yet worked for me, it’s always 56-58 in a temp 50 that should be a 70 that gets me , I’m fine on 30 and 40 and 70 roads, I use a limiter now | |||
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"Quite interesting to see ppls reactions about the courses when my dad is one of the trainers who runs the courses. Ive heard a lot of what goes on in them. I will say that for some of you thought it was boring or whatever, it really depends on the trainer you get, some of them are pretty useless, others are very good at it and can make the course a lot more enjoyable" Is his name Phil? | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! " Wait? Really? I had to pay £100 fine or do a speed awareness course for same price but keep my points. First offence? | |||
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"I was caught doing 310 in 30 didn't get a fine just told off for flying low " So it was you who broke the speed camera then lol | |||
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"Your fine is you pay for the course which will educate you my arse no points on license or fine to pay just 6 hours you will neve r get back" Maybe you would have been better with the points and fine, if it was that bad. | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. " Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef. | |||
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"When they ask you if any situations ever justify speeding, don’t say ‘yes - when you need to get away’. This And don't waffle on, because the longer people waffle the longer you are there! There was a guy on mine and he kept arguing with the tutor and pulling the "I've been driving for 50 years I should know" card. In the end everyone told him to 'shhhh' I thought he was hilarious .....x I think the standard response to that one is ' The fact that you haven't learned much in 50 years of driving is why you're sitting here..' That would be pretty unfair seeing as everyone else was there for the same thing....Yep wrong to speed but he took his punishment. " The post said he was constantly arguing with the tutor. If he felt that strongly about it he should have paid his fine and taken the points. | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef." Built up area 30mph simple | |||
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"I was told on mine whether it's right or wrong the number of speed cameras will increase so it you don't pay attention you'll be here again. " It varies. I know counties where none of the speed cameras are active, they just don't tell you. | |||
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"Quite interesting to see ppls reactions about the courses when my dad is one of the trainers who runs the courses. Ive heard a lot of what goes on in them. I will say that for some of you thought it was boring or whatever, it really depends on the trainer you get, some of them are pretty useless, others are very good at it and can make the course a lot more enjoyable" I enjoyed the course I did. There were some know all dicks on it but decent people too. The instructor was a decent bloke. A few of us learned a lot. Like we can go faster on a dual carriageway. We thought it was 60mph. | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef." It’s never down to guess work. If there truly are no signs then the speed limit is national (60). I suspect that you are just not noticing the repeaters, they are about half the diameter. If you are flashed on camera and issued a ticket whilst doing less than 60 on a stretch of road with no speed limit signs, let it go to court, it will get thrown out. | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef. Built up area 30mph simple " It's not that simple, a good rule of thumb maybe, but the A1 northbound at Wansford turns off at the former little chef and goes straight down into a twenty, not thirty but it IS signposted as 20mph. Things are changing...so more signage is needed. Quote The first UK place to go wide-area 20mph limited through signage and light touch police enforcement was Portsmouth which is mainly on Portsea Island - a low-lying island of 10² miles - off the South coast. Island community characteristics fit perfectly with successful implementations of 20mph speed limits. | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef. It’s never down to guess work. If there truly are no signs then the speed limit is national (60). I suspect that you are just not noticing the repeaters, they are about half the diameter. If you are flashed on camera and issued a ticket whilst doing less than 60 on a stretch of road with no speed limit signs, let it go to court, it will get thrown out. " I do keep an eye out for them, that's why I call them dinner plates. | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef. Built up area 30mph simple " It’s only 30 if that’s what the sign says. There will always be a sign to indicate the speed limit on a road. If not, it’s national limit (60). | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef. Built up area 30mph simple It's not that simple, a good rule of thumb maybe, but the A1 northbound at Wansford turns off at the former little chef and goes straight down into a twenty, not thirty but it IS signposted as 20mph. Things are changing...so more signage is needed. Quote The first UK place to go wide-area 20mph limited through signage and light touch police enforcement was Portsmouth which is mainly on Portsea Island - a low-lying island of 10² miles - off the South coast. Island community characteristics fit perfectly with successful implementations of 20mph speed limits. " you mean zone areas, new housing estates, by school tend to be zone areas at 20mph. | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! Wait? Really? I had to pay £100 fine or do a speed awareness course for same price but keep my points. First offence? " Well, first offence for over 10 years yes. | |||
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"Do the course,get a cuppa and biscuits,chat to a few people. It's a whole day thing,but it's up to u if u want fine and points." I didn't get biscuits dang it. I was robbed of biscuits lol | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef." I just use my sat nav to know what speed to do there but not 100% reliable most of the time mind | |||
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"I was snapped doing 38mph in a 30 zone. Obviously my own stupid fault! So I've had to pay £83 for the course in March, but is there also a fine on top of that? I've not done this before, would appreciate any input! Wait? Really? I had to pay £100 fine or do a speed awareness course for same price but keep my points. First offence? Well, first offence for over 10 years yes. " I wonder why the cost difference then. Curious one that | |||
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" So all the signage to tell you what the speed limit is are already in place. Have you driven around Northamptomshire? ~There are miles of round without speed signs but plenty of camera signs, they don't have speeds displayed, so it's down to guess work. That's my beef. I just use my sat nav to know what speed to do there but not 100% reliable most of the time mind " Absolutely true for dedicated sat navs, if you haven't updated them. Phones tend to be internet connected and should, in theory have the most up to date info, though you won't be about to use it as an excuse "The sat nav/Google maps told me so". Only the street signs are kosher and they will over rule the painted signs on the tarmac. This is what the Gov's website says about speed limits and council discretion to change things. quote "4) The overall speed limit framework, including the setting of national limits for different road types, and which exceptions to these general limits can be applied, is the responsibility of the government. The three national speed limits are: the 30 mph speed limit on roads with street lighting (sometimes referred to as Restricted Roads) the national speed limit of 60 mph on single carriageway roads the national speed limit of 70 mph on dual carriageways and motorways These national limits are not, however, appropriate for all roads. The speed limit regime enables traffic authorities to set local speed limits in situations where local needs and conditions suggest a speed limit which is different from the respective national speed limit." This is very common driving between Peterborough and Bourne, different villages on the same stretch of raod, built up, will have different lilts. Luckily the signage is good. | |||
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"Be aware that soke of the information they may give you is also not up to date and correct so double check some of it yourself afterwards. A lot of insurance companies are now asking if you've done a speed awareness course in the last 3 years too and treat it as if you've got the points on your licence so be aware of that with your current insurer as well, they may invalidate your policy if you don't declare it." This is not true and you don’t have to tell anyone that you’ve been on a course. It’s treated as anonymous once you arrive . Anyone that mentions anyone else that’s been on the course with you will get a fine. | |||
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"Be aware that soke of the information they may give you is also not up to date and correct so double check some of it yourself afterwards. A lot of insurance companies are now asking if you've done a speed awareness course in the last 3 years too and treat it as if you've got the points on your licence so be aware of that with your current insurer as well, they may invalidate your policy if you don't declare it. This is not true and you don’t have to tell anyone that you’ve been on a course. It’s treated as anonymous once you arrive . Anyone that mentions anyone else that’s been on the course with you will get a fine. " Feel free to enquire with an insurer who asks if you have been onna speed awareness course in however long they specify. To say you've not when you have will invalidate your policy and the last thing you want on your insurance history is to have to declare that you've had a policy voided as you have to declare that for life. And my experience of that is through the insurance ombudsman when I had a policy voided due to driving an import car, I still have the letter 9 years later. | |||
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