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"Yes, to both It's why I'm honest from the outset about a 3 meet max " Thanks for your honesty I knew it probably happened, don't think many people would want to publicize it on the forum though. X | |||
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"I've had to stop seeing people or decide not to meet them at all because they started catching feelings or admit that they have caught them after previous meets with others. I'm not here for anything serious, just fun and I make that clear from the start. " Makes sense totally. X | |||
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"We stopped seeing a couple because one of them became contemptible, got over familiar and was trying to direct our play. Suspected that one of another couple was getting feelings then went unlos." We would have done the exact same thing in your position.x | |||
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"We are a couple who usually meet other couples. We see them as friends with the added benefit of that fun we all enjoy together at the end of the night, we have never felt anything more than this for them, We are just happy and feel lucky to have had these experiences. Just wanted to know if anyone has had to stop meets because you started having feelings for someone else or someone was getting feelings for you so you ended it before thing's went too far, question aimed at everyone and not just couple's. X" Yes... was seeing a lady, she started to demand more of my time, as in see me more and more almost to the point everyday... didn't mind the daily phone call... | |||
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"We are a couple who usually meet other couples. We see them as friends with the added benefit of that fun we all enjoy together at the end of the night, we have never felt anything more than this for them, We are just happy and feel lucky to have had these experiences. Just wanted to know if anyone has had to stop meets because you started having feelings for someone else or someone was getting feelings for you so you ended it before thing's went too far, question aimed at everyone and not just couple's. X" Wanted to add by seeing some of your responses so far, some people have had feelings and formed relationship's on fab, glad to hear that it's not just a negative thing. X | |||
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"We’d exchanged two messages with a guy and were moving toward a social when I updated our Statius with a planned club visit. He got all jealous and angrily possessive! Another blocked muppet obviously. Can’t see us meeting anyone more than twice though tbh. Whilst a third is fun in the bedroom we don’t want one in our relationship. " I know exactly what you mean here. I can't update my status without a certain female friend asking "who's that meant for" or "who's she" I sometimes detect a bit of jealousy in her. | |||
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"Well, maybe hoped that feelings would develop... Met someone, got along great. Went for even a couple of regular dates. Then she tells me she's dating a millionaire and I'm just a friend. Not much I can do about that... Ferrari or 04 Focus." Sorry to hear this, hope your good now.x | |||
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"Well, maybe hoped that feelings would develop... Met someone, got along great. Went for even a couple of regular dates. Then she tells me she's dating a millionaire and I'm just a friend. Not much I can do about that... Ferrari or 04 Focus." At least without lots of money you know people aren't around you maybe just because of it | |||
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"I'm always clear that I'm looking for FWB/FB arrangements, I'm not in the market for a relationship. I've never wanted more, even with guys I've met weekly for a few years. Sadly the same doesn't tend to hold in reverse: most of my FWB arrangents have ended when the guy has wanted more, to meet family or move in, or in one case have a baby It's a shame when these things end but I won't give anyone false hope that I'll ever want more." A baby that's crazy. X | |||
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"I'm always clear that I'm looking for FWB/FB arrangements, I'm not in the market for a relationship. I've never wanted more, even with guys I've met weekly for a few years. Sadly the same doesn't tend to hold in reverse: most of my FWB arrangents have ended when the guy has wanted more, to meet family or move in, or in one case have a baby It's a shame when these things end but I won't give anyone false hope that I'll ever want more. A baby that's crazy. X" He was approaching 40 and was growing increasingly desperate to have a child. It was sad to part but I was never going to give him what he wanted, better he find another woman who would feel the same way about him. He has a child now and is living a good life, and I'm glad for him. I've nothing but love for him or for any of my ex-FWBs. | |||
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"We are a couple who usually meet other couples. We see them as friends with the added benefit of that fun we all enjoy together at the end of the night, we have never felt anything more than this for them, We are just happy and feel lucky to have had these experiences. Just wanted to know if anyone has had to stop meets because you started having feelings for someone else or someone was getting feelings for you so you ended it before thing's went too far, question aimed at everyone and not just couple's. X" Nope! | |||
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"Well, maybe hoped that feelings would develop... Met someone, got along great. Went for even a couple of regular dates. Then she tells me she's dating a millionaire and I'm just a friend. Not much I can do about that... Ferrari or 04 Focus. Sorry to hear this, hope your good now.x" Well, you move on. Been single for two years and a bit, so it's nothing new. | |||
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"Over the years I've had a few long term regulars. My feelings never went past the ones you'd feel for a very close friend. I know that they could go further if I'd allow them, but being married I know where the line is that I don't want to cross. I'm a strong believer that we all can control how far we let our feelings towards others go for them not to become a problem for either party." I totally agree. I think some sort of feelings for someone you meet regularly is healthy and natural but I guess some just cant see that. I was seeing someone for 3 years. He was very special to me and i loved him as a friend but he wanted a "proper" relationship. It was sad when it came to an end and the way that it ended but hes married now and I can only wish him all the luck and happiness in the world. | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided?" I'm so glad you said that.... it's my feeling too! Having stronger feelings for someone than you hoped or expected to can be awkward and difficult,but only if you make it so. It can just be a really beautiful thing if you look at it like that and celebrate it. Posh | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided?" Because emotion is powerful and has just as much potential to cause great unhappiness. If it works out, great. I suspect that it usually doesn’t though. | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided? Because emotion is powerful and has just as much potential to cause great unhappiness. If it works out, great. I suspect that it usually doesn’t though." So it's to be avoided, like flu? | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided? Because emotion is powerful and has just as much potential to cause great unhappiness. If it works out, great. I suspect that it usually doesn’t though. So it's to be avoided, like flu?" No, you go through the unhappiness. I’ve seen it and experienced it myself. | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided? Because emotion is powerful and has just as much potential to cause great unhappiness. If it works out, great. I suspect that it usually doesn’t though. So it's to be avoided, like flu? No, you go through the unhappiness. I’ve seen it and experienced it myself. " I see. Only people you love or like a lot have the power to hurt you. | |||
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"Is it the emotions that cause the problems or the expectations you have as a result of them? Say I have an arrangement with a guy, we meet regularly for sex but agree that we have no obligation to each other apart from mutual respect. I realise after a time that I really like him, maybe even love him that's only going to be problematic if I want our relationship to change and he doesn't. " I agree with this. Having romantic feelings for someone tends to mean also wanting a committed romantic relationship with that person. It doesn't for me. It only really sucks when that person leaves my life completely but I don't think that's exclusive to just people you have romantic feelings for. | |||
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"Is it the emotions that cause the problems or the expectations you have as a result of them? Say I have an arrangement with a guy, we meet regularly for sex but agree that we have no obligation to each other apart from mutual respect. I realise after a time that I really like him, maybe even love him that's only going to be problematic if I want our relationship to change and he doesn't. I agree with this. Having romantic feelings for someone tends to mean also wanting a committed romantic relationship with that person. It doesn't for me. It only really sucks when that person leaves my life completely but I don't think that's exclusive to just people you have romantic feelings for. " Agreed. I think a lot of us feel that sex and love when combined have certain conditions attached. | |||
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"Is it the emotions that cause the problems or the expectations you have as a result of them? Say I have an arrangement with a guy, we meet regularly for sex but agree that we have no obligation to each other apart from mutual respect. I realise after a time that I really like him, maybe even love him that's only going to be problematic if I want our relationship to change and he doesn't. " This is the issue for me. I actually really enjoy regular meets with people you like but I do not want a long term relationship with extra conditions attached. | |||
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"I was in a monogamous relationship with my last partner for 13 years and didn't have feelings for her, so developing feelings is not really something that I have to worry is going to happen to me. Unfortunately, the quine I'm seeing presently knows what I am and what I want. She was cool with that initially and was supposedly of the same mind, but I can see it quickly changing and will probably have to stop seeing her pretty soon because of it, which is a shame as we're having great sex." What kept you with someone for 13 years if you had no feelings? | |||
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"Is it the emotions that cause the problems or the expectations you have as a result of them? Say I have an arrangement with a guy, we meet regularly for sex but agree that we have no obligation to each other apart from mutual respect. I realise after a time that I really like him, maybe even love him that's only going to be problematic if I want our relationship to change and he doesn't. This is the issue for me. I actually really enjoy regular meets with people you like but I do not want a long term relationship with extra conditions attached." What do you consider to be "conditions"? Exclusivity, stuff like that? | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided? Because emotion is powerful and has just as much potential to cause great unhappiness. If it works out, great. I suspect that it usually doesn’t though. So it's to be avoided, like flu? No, you go through the unhappiness. I’ve seen it and experienced it myself. I see. Only people you love or like a lot have the power to hurt you. " I’m not saying that people will hurt you on purpose, but where there is emotion there is always the potential to hurt or be hurt. I remember encouraging a female friend to find a FWB to satisfy her physical needs. Then the guy broke it off in a sloppy manner because he didn’t want to get emotionally involved. It wasn’t deep tragic, but the net result of the entire thing was negative and I felt bad for encouraging it. It helped lead to my jaundiced view of emotion in FWB relationships. I think in most cases emotion is going to develop. | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided? Because emotion is powerful and has just as much potential to cause great unhappiness. If it works out, great. I suspect that it usually doesn’t though. So it's to be avoided, like flu? No, you go through the unhappiness. I’ve seen it and experienced it myself. I see. Only people you love or like a lot have the power to hurt you. I’m not saying that people will hurt you on purpose, but where there is emotion there is always the potential to hurt or be hurt. I remember encouraging a female friend to find a FWB to satisfy her physical needs. Then the guy broke it off in a sloppy manner because he didn’t want to get emotionally involved. It wasn’t deep tragic, but the net result of the entire thing was negative and I felt bad for encouraging it. It helped lead to my jaundiced view of emotion in FWB relationships. I think in most cases emotion is going to develop." Personally I don't think I could see someone regularly without at least liking them and sharing common interests. As I said earlier it's the difference in expectations that often causes hurt also the main cause of problems in every relationship...lack of clear, honest communication | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided? Because emotion is powerful and has just as much potential to cause great unhappiness. If it works out, great. I suspect that it usually doesn’t though. So it's to be avoided, like flu? No, you go through the unhappiness. I’ve seen it and experienced it myself. I see. Only people you love or like a lot have the power to hurt you. I’m not saying that people will hurt you on purpose, but where there is emotion there is always the potential to hurt or be hurt. I remember encouraging a female friend to find a FWB to satisfy her physical needs. Then the guy broke it off in a sloppy manner because he didn’t want to get emotionally involved. It wasn’t deep tragic, but the net result of the entire thing was negative and I felt bad for encouraging it. It helped lead to my jaundiced view of emotion in FWB relationships. I think in most cases emotion is going to develop. Personally I don't think I could see someone regularly without at least liking them and sharing common interests. As I said earlier it's the difference in expectations that often causes hurt also the main cause of problems in every relationship...lack of clear, honest communication" I think it may also be a case of practice. If you’ve both been around the track a few times, it becomes easier to manage emotion in a FWB relationship. But for people going into a FWB relationship for the first time, like those in my case study, it can be a minefield that they are just not expecting. | |||
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"Personally I don't think I could see someone regularly without at least liking them and sharing common interests. As I said earlier it's the difference in expectations that often causes hurt also the main cause of problems in every relationship...lack of clear, honest communication" Agreed - as long as you're clear in what you want, no misleading from either party I don't see emotions as being a bad thing in the slightest. I'm not sure if it's because I'm poly or less jaded than others but every dynamic, relationship (the broad sense of the word) has the potential to cause hurt. You don't close yourself off to everything because of your past, you move forward. Plus, I think with feelings comes a deeper intimacy. The sex is better in my mind because there's more behind it. I'm probably just a sappy twunt though. | |||
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"I was in a monogamous relationship with my last partner for 13 years and didn't have feelings for her, so developing feelings is not really something that I have to worry is going to happen to me. Unfortunately, the quine I'm seeing presently knows what I am and what I want. She was cool with that initially and was supposedly of the same mind, but I can see it quickly changing and will probably have to stop seeing her pretty soon because of it, which is a shame as we're having great sex. What kept you with someone for 13 years if you had no feelings?" Bairns. Unfortunately I was under the deluded impression I was doing the right thing staying for them, which turns out was a load of nonsense. I didn't want to let them down, but us splitting has been the best thing for them, my ex, and certainly my mental health - so I find myself where I'm at at the moment, loving life! | |||
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"No. I’m not scared of feelings. I’ve had feelings for everyone I’ve met. Probably wouldn’t have carried on meeting them otherwise. I know what I want and I don’t want a relationship. It’s how you handle it. Never been an issue for me. " I was under the impression that the original question was about falling in love and wanting more than fun | |||
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"Why is it common now for people to be all about "catching" feelings as if it's an illness? Isn't feeling good emotions something to be celebrated rather than cured or avoided? Because emotion is powerful and has just as much potential to cause great unhappiness. If it works out, great. I suspect that it usually doesn’t though. So it's to be avoided, like flu? No, you go through the unhappiness. I’ve seen it and experienced it myself. I see. Only people you love or like a lot have the power to hurt you. I’m not saying that people will hurt you on purpose, but where there is emotion there is always the potential to hurt or be hurt. I remember encouraging a female friend to find a FWB to satisfy her physical needs. Then the guy broke it off in a sloppy manner because he didn’t want to get emotionally involved. It wasn’t deep tragic, but the net result of the entire thing was negative and I felt bad for encouraging it. It helped lead to my jaundiced view of emotion in FWB relationships. I think in most cases emotion is going to develop. Personally I don't think I could see someone regularly without at least liking them and sharing common interests. As I said earlier it's the difference in expectations that often causes hurt also the main cause of problems in every relationship...lack of clear, honest communication I think it may also be a case of practice. If you’ve both been around the track a few times, it becomes easier to manage emotion in a FWB relationship. But for people going into a FWB relationship for the first time, like those in my case study, it can be a minefield that they are just not expecting." Do you think it's possible that there's often a case of one person wanting more, settling for what's on offer rather than nothing then finding out down the line that they can't handle it? | |||
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"Personally I don't think I could see someone regularly without at least liking them and sharing common interests. As I said earlier it's the difference in expectations that often causes hurt also the main cause of problems in every relationship...lack of clear, honest communication Agreed - as long as you're clear in what you want, no misleading from either party I don't see emotions as being a bad thing in the slightest. I'm not sure if it's because I'm poly or less jaded than others but every dynamic, relationship (the broad sense of the word) has the potential to cause hurt. You don't close yourself off to everything because of your past, you move forward. Plus, I think with feelings comes a deeper intimacy. The sex is better in my mind because there's more behind it. I'm probably just a sappy twunt though. " I doubt that. | |||
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"Do you think it's possible that there's often a case of one person wanting more, settling for what's on offer rather than nothing then finding out down the line that they can't handle it?" We’re humans, so I’m sure that every possible permutation has played out a hundred times. I definitely think they experience is the key factor in avoiding unforeseen problems. Even the good suggestions here about communication and clearly setting down Terms of Engagement is something that people would not think of doing before messing up a few times. | |||
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"Do you think it's possible that there's often a case of one person wanting more, settling for what's on offer rather than nothing then finding out down the line that they can't handle it? We’re humans, so I’m sure that every possible permutation has played out a hundred times. I definitely think they experience is the key factor in avoiding unforeseen problems. Even the good suggestions here about communication and clearly setting down Terms of Engagement is something that people would not think of doing before messing up a few times." So true of life in general and relationships in particular. It's one reason I wish we had a more pragmatic attitude to relationships in our society | |||
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"Do you think it's possible that there's often a case of one person wanting more, settling for what's on offer rather than nothing then finding out down the line that they can't handle it? We’re humans, so I’m sure that every possible permutation has played out a hundred times. I definitely think they experience is the key factor in avoiding unforeseen problems. Even the good suggestions here about communication and clearly setting down Terms of Engagement is something that people would not think of doing before messing up a few times. So true of life in general and relationships in particular. It's one reason I wish we had a more pragmatic attitude to relationships in our society" Not a bad idea, but I think that a lot of things in life need to be experienced before you really get the message. | |||
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"I think if anything, this thread seems to challenge the notion that swingers are more evolved in regards to emotions " Depends on your definition of 'swingers'. | |||
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"Wife has had a relationship with one of her meets and they are pretty close to the point they call each other boyfriend and girlfriend. Known each other for about 4yrs. Didnt really mind up until the last meet in October last year. He came over and knew I was WFH on that day and decided to play with the wife, I dont mind that if its done discretly but he got her in the room I was working in and decided to kiss and grope her in front of me like I was a cuck. I have spoken to the wife about this and felt he has over stepped the mark. She seems to side with him saying she thought I enjoyed that kind of thing. I have fallen out with him but not sure he knows but wife still likes him. All the other meets we try and keep emotions and feelings out of it. Him x" I’d be more annoyed with your wife than her bf .. We like to build a friendship with people as sex is always better if you get to know what the others likes and dislikes are,That’s as far as it goes tho if one of us started developing feelings other than friendship we would have to have a hard look at our marriage.. | |||
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"That’s why I’m purely one offs. Even if it’s amazing and we get on well - it’s a purely one off situation " I wanna give you one once in a one off situation one day. | |||
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"My wife and I have a rule where if feelings start to appear, all ties are cut. Its much more of a risk with me than her." Nice helmet. | |||
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"My wife and I have a rule where if feelings start to appear, all ties are cut. Its much more of a risk with me than her. Nice helmet." Thank you. I polish it regularly. | |||
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"Is it the emotions that cause the problems or the expectations you have as a result of them? Say I have an arrangement with a guy, we meet regularly for sex but agree that we have no obligation to each other apart from mutual respect. I realise after a time that I really like him, maybe even love him that's only going to be problematic if I want our relationship to change and he doesn't. This is the issue for me. I actually really enjoy regular meets with people you like but I do not want a long term relationship with extra conditions attached. What do you consider to be "conditions"? Exclusivity, stuff like that?" I meant that is when people would like the relationship to become more than just a social/friends one. Exclusivity is one aspect but it is more when the other person wants the relationship to become more of a life partner. I love the social aspect but I just want to remain friends. | |||
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