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"Doesn’t look good for Prince Andrew " I just said the same thing. | |||
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"Doesn’t look good for Prince Andrew " He'll be sweating now! (or not) | |||
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"Maybe now she could do the decent thing and reveal some of the celebs and other powerful scumbags she has ‘supplied’ to…." Yes. Scumbag | |||
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"I have so much admiration for the abused who came forward" Particularly to be slut shamed by lawyers in public. | |||
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"Maybe plea bargain to reveal names.. But more importantly.. How do you pronounce her first name? Been bothering me for weeks..." Elaine with a G at the start | |||
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"Maybe plea bargain to reveal names.. But more importantly.. How do you pronounce her first name? Been bothering me for weeks... Elaine with a G at the start " Ty | |||
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"Maybe plea bargain to reveal names.. But more importantly.. How do you pronounce her first name? Been bothering me for weeks..." Gill ain | |||
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"I have so much admiration for the abused who came forward Particularly to be slut shamed by lawyers in public." Yep! Vile | |||
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"Good, hope she rots" I think she will thankfully, with a sentence between 40 and 65 years | |||
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"Good, hope she rots I think she will thankfully, with a sentence between 40 and 65 years " She'll be out in a box then | |||
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"Good, hope she rots I think she will thankfully, with a sentence between 40 and 65 years She'll be out in a box then " Yep | |||
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"Good, hope she rots I think she will thankfully, with a sentence between 40 and 65 years " They have just said on the news it is unlikely she will get more than 25 years. | |||
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"Good, hope she rots I think she will thankfully, with a sentence between 40 and 65 years She'll be out in a box then Yep " That is a win in my eyes | |||
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"Omg..wow..i wonder what will happen next!! " Search for "can I get anthrax delivered to a supermax" traced back to Buckingham Palace | |||
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"Good, hope she rots I think she will thankfully, with a sentence between 40 and 65 years They have just said on the news it is unlikely she will get more than 25 years. " Really?!? That’s awful, so should could be out aged 85 | |||
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"Omg..wow..i wonder what will happen next!! Search for "can I get anthrax delivered to a supermax" traced back to Buckingham Palace" I think if I search for this I may get a knock on my door haha | |||
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"Father and daughter...what a legacy !!" plus 2 sons who were on trial for fraud Apple and tree | |||
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"Doesn’t look good for Prince Andrew He'll be sweating now! (or not)" top post | |||
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"I just hope they go after all of the other players, The other men who abused those poor girls. Body guards, limo drivers and any other piece of shit involved. They must be panicking " I hope a lot of people can’t sleep tonight know they will be brought to justice soon! | |||
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"I just hope they go after all of the other players, The other men who abused those poor girls. Body guards, limo drivers and any other piece of shit involved. They must be panicking I hope a lot of people can’t sleep tonight know they will be brought to justice soon!" Will they??? I won't hold my breath | |||
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"Good, hope she rots I think she will thankfully, with a sentence between 40 and 65 years They have just said on the news it is unlikely she will get more than 25 years. Really?!? That’s awful, so should could be out aged 85 " The reporter was saying It's unlikely to be above 25 years if similar cases are anything to go by. | |||
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"I just hope they go after all of the other players, The other men who abused those poor girls. Body guards, limo drivers and any other piece of shit involved. They must be panicking I hope a lot of people can’t sleep tonight know they will be brought to justice soon! Will they??? I won't hold my breath" I hope they do. She may become a government witness and use info she has to reduce her possible 65 years in prison. | |||
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"I just hope they go after all of the other players, The other men who abused those poor girls. Body guards, limo drivers and any other piece of shit involved. They must be panicking I hope a lot of people can’t sleep tonight know they will be brought to justice soon! Will they??? I won't hold my breath I hope they do. She may become a government witness and use info she has to reduce her possible 65 years in prison. " Let’s hope she names Prince Andrew! | |||
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"Maybe plea bargain to reveal names.. But more importantly.. How do you pronounce her first name? Been bothering me for weeks..." Or maybe other way arround , keep her under control, because there's many powerful names they must be protected, and i'm sure if they become public know , we would forget in a second about Prince Andrew | |||
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"Maybe plea bargain to reveal names.. But more importantly.. How do you pronounce her first name? Been bothering me for weeks..." Evil bugger. | |||
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"....I wonder if Maxwell or her defence lawyers will try to secretly work a deal with law enforcement to get herself a reduced sentence? I know each count she has been found guilty on carry’s a long term off years behind bars but what if in order to save her own hide or get a little less time she gives up names/evidence off other accomplices or groups engaging in similar activities as to what her and Epstein got up to?... And if she does will she be the victim off a similar incident/fate like the one that happened to Epstein if it so happens that it goes beyond her and Epstein will certain individuals go to any length off silencing her?" If she speaks or doesn't she knows her fate and might not take the risk of talking thinking she might be safe they have a code as more people could be hurt by her actions | |||
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" If she speaks or doesn't she knows her fate and might not take the risk of talking thinking she might be safe they have a code as more people could be hurt by her actions" Fair point I guess... | |||
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"Truly horrible woman but this is just the tip of the iceberg I should imagine . Wot makes the rich and powerful think its ok to do this kind of thing is beyond me. They still no wots right and wrong " a truly horrible family | |||
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"think maybe she will talk now to save her own skin to a degree .... vile woman she must have known what she was doing was wrong" Theres no way in hell any names come out. If that was gonna happen it would of by now. She's the fall guy for billionaires,royals and the elite across the world. | |||
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"think maybe she will talk now to save her own skin to a degree .... vile woman she must have known what she was doing was wrong" Money talks and given amount of money people pay to even shut someone up permanently I very much doubt she will talk but clock is ticking for her Life given high profile figures involved going far back as bush and the network scale of it | |||
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"Anyone who thinks that American justice equates somehow to real justice is completely misguided." Actually this is where I need to step in because there are sentencing guidelines that will be adhered to ( just like the uk) Because she will be in legal terms “a first time offender” that is the difference between serving 25 and 65.. the judge does have some scope for mitigating circumstances to go up or down on the guidelines… for example if she does give up other people (although that would have been better before trial) if she shows remorse ect ect….. | |||
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"Good day for justice, let's hope names get released now... Ahem. Prince Andrew." Re prince Andrew… in a way this doesn’t really change his situation for a few reasons… A) remember maxwell was found guilty in the case of 3 of the 4 accusers… 1 they found her not guilty on B) Andrew’s accuser was not one of the 4 cases brought…. She was not a witness for the prosecution, C) maxwell didn’t testify in her own defence.. so no names named D) Andrew’s name was not brought up in this case at all…. So both sides are going to take something out of this! Andrew’s accuser is going to say “guilty by association”! Andrew legal team is going to say “ you didn’t believe one of the girls, why should you believe my accuser!” | |||
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"Truly horrible woman but this is just the tip of the iceberg I should imagine . Wot makes the rich and powerful think its ok to do this kind of thing is beyond me. They still no wots right and wrong " erm because there rich and powerfull a crackhead has more morals than the rich and powerfull your talking about, | |||
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"No one ever mentions the fact that all the girls were happy to be paid very well for their services. They were willing participants. No one was forcing them. If Prince Andrew did have sex with them in the UK, they were over the UK age of consent so he did not commit a crime. However if he had sex with them in the USA they were under the age of consent in the USA so he did commit a crime (America is crazy anyway)" Jerry Lee Lewis famously arrived in the U.K. years ago with his young teen bride. There was outrage but obviously he wasn’t arrested. Not sure if those US states where such marriage was then legal still have those laws today? However if the girls are considered minors in the majority of the US then going back to Epstein’s is not considered at their free will. They were groomed. End of. | |||
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"No one ever mentions the fact that all the girls were happy to be paid very well for their services. They were willing participants. No one was forcing them. If Prince Andrew did have sex with them in the UK, they were over the UK age of consent so he did not commit a crime. However if he had sex with them in the USA they were under the age of consent in the USA so he did commit a crime (America is crazy anyway)" The accusation is of sexual abuse by Andrew in New York, London and US Virgin islands when she was under 18. She claims the Andrew new her age and that she was sex trafficked by Epstein, The age of consent in NY is 17 and UK it is 16. The age of consent in the US Virgin Islands is 18, this is why the flights to and from the island and who was on them is critical, if Andrew was on the private jet and it landed in US Virgin Islands when she said sexual abuse took place it would be extremely unlikely she would lose her case. The case against Andrew is a civil case, the burden of proof is not as rigid as a criminal case, which is beyond all reasonable doubt, it can be settled on probability and likelihood. Going to the point of happy to take money, these girls were minors and groomed. They were abused. | |||
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"This whole case is nothing more than a cover up. This woman has been found guilty of sex trafficking but yet NOT ONE NAME has been mentioned for who she is trafficking for. The FBI found over 20,000 images at the Epstein Mansion, computers, hard drives and CDR's. And now the case is over the Judge has ordered all files sealed. Nothing more will ever come of this. It's only a matter of time now before she gets "really sad" in her cell and get Murde...... Sorry "commits suicide" " Exactly, it is a massive cover up, the judge has ordered the evidence sealed, and both defence and prosecution never named any names. The media have been spinning the story like Epstein was just a rich pervert who had a taste for underage pretty teenage girls, he may well of had, however this was a Intelligence agency compromisation operation, why do you think many rich and powerful men and women travelled to his island? And Epstein had covert filming system in every room? Epstein's black books were not opened, no video and photo evidence has been shown. Maxwell has either made a secret deal with the deep state to keep her mouth shut, and they will get her out at a later date, or she will accidently commit suicide in jail. | |||
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