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"Why would they do that when there's a dedicated gay man hook up site that sounds like a meat mincer?" Apparently outside Fab it was (is?) quite a thing. Some non-scene friends explained. A gay guy might look for a straight guy to give a bj to. Reasons varied - but one was to be a bit of "I turned him gay - how gay am I!!" and getting a kick from subverting straight men. Can't see that happening in MFM or even MMF though - most gay guys find women a turn off! | |||
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"It is also worth pointing out that some gay communities really dislike bi guys. They feel it is a cop out, can't make up their mind, kidding themselves etc Takes all kinds Ive heard it all, including some gay guys who really dislike trans women because “why couldn’t we just like ourselves and be gay MEN (so we are traitors)” Or the other I heard, that we are tricksters because generally speaking, it’s the ones who are straight who are interested in women who are trans " I have personally experienced the gay guys not likeing trans before At a Sanuna that held a trans and atmires day first time I had ever been was kind off wondering way I was the only one there clame to find out the “regular" had chased off all the trans people Basically was told by the jack strap braged that my kind wasn’t welcome there The owner was very apologetic when I told him on the way out but didn’t really matter the damage was done | |||
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"It is also worth pointing out that some gay communities really dislike bi guys. They feel it is a cop out, can't make up their mind, kidding themselves etc Takes all kinds Ive heard it all, including some gay guys who really dislike trans women because “why couldn’t we just like ourselves and be gay MEN (so we are traitors)” Or the other I heard, that we are tricksters because generally speaking, it’s the ones who are straight who are interested in women who are trans I have personally experienced the gay guys not likeing trans before At a Sanuna that held a trans and atmires day first time I had ever been was kind off wondering way I was the only one there clame to find out the “regular" had chased off all the trans people Basically was told by the jack strap braged that my kind wasn’t welcome there The owner was very apologetic when I told him on the way out but didn’t really matter the damage was done " This - the toxic fetish of hyper masculinity among gay men. One popular app is notorious for its "no fems no fats no asian" listings. I digress ..back to the thread.. | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out " So good to see you back x | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out " I agree, a load of Codswallop | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out I agree, a load of Codswallop" Too much gay bashing on here, been a member for years before, but I always pull them up | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out So good to see you back x" Nice to see you again Nora x | |||
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"I have read posts were couples who are both bi have said that some men pretend to be bi just to get to the women. Is the reverse true ? A gay man pretending to be bi just to get to the male of the couple? " I am listed as bi here but am in a gay relationship 3 of my 5 relationships have been with men, 2 with women Sex wise, I like there to be another cock in the room, so don't really seek females on their own (I can almost hear the sighs of relief) I wouldn't rule out a bi-MMF, but I don't partake in anal with one-off meets, so have been told I'm not properly bi Go figure! | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out I agree, a load of Codswallop Too much gay bashing on here, been a member for years before, but I always pull them up " When you all ride in, you might want to (a) clarify your position as to how this is "gay-bashing" (Accepted that the Op as always has provocative threads) (b) show that sub sections of a massive community do not do as described (c) are denying peoples *lived* experiences, rather than some conjectural principle. | |||
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"I have read posts were couples who are both bi have said that some men pretend to be bi just to get to the women. Is the reverse true ? A gay man pretending to be bi just to get to the male of the couple? " I have had a guy tell me he was bi but after several meets tell me the truth he was gay. The fact he was gay was irrelivent as sex is sex no matter if he was gay or bi. its telling lies by anyone to get what they want i dislike. Lets not turn this in to a gay bashing post please. | |||
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"I have read posts were couples who are both bi have said that some men pretend to be bi just to get to the women. Is the reverse true ? A gay man pretending to be bi just to get to the male of the couple? I have had a guy tell me he was bi but after several meets tell me the truth he was gay. The fact he was gay was irrelivent as sex is sex no matter if he was gay or bi. its telling lies by anyone to get what they want i dislike. Lets not turn this in to a gay bashing post please. " Agreed. I state I'm bi-curious to initiate the conversation over what I'm willing and not willing to do. I don't do everything a gay or fully bi guy would do. And I think its important that you're clear over who you are and what you want. | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out I agree, a load of Codswallop Too much gay bashing on here, been a member for years before, but I always pull them up When you all ride in, you might want to (a) clarify your position as to how this is "gay-bashing" (Accepted that the Op as always has provocative threads) (b) show that sub sections of a massive community do not do as described (c) are denying peoples *lived* experiences, rather than some conjectural principle. " m I could turn this around and outline everything I have seen over decades to current times with bi men what they get up to on the quiet, along with a good deal of t-girls. But I can guarantee you will not like it and it would paint a negative picture about each of those demographics on here. I will not lower myself however to your levels | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out I agree, a load of Codswallop Too much gay bashing on here, been a member for years before, but I always pull them up When you all ride in, you might want to (a) clarify your position as to how this is "gay-bashing" (Accepted that the Op as always has provocative threads) (b) show that sub sections of a massive community do not do as described (c) are denying peoples *lived* experiences, rather than some conjectural principle. m I could turn this around and outline everything I have seen over decades to current times with bi men what they get up to on the quiet, along with a good deal of t-girls. But I can guarantee you will not like it and it would paint a negative picture about each of those demographics on here. I will not lower myself however to your levels " Agree. I had more respect and a better time meeting gay guys than other bi guys. Nor met a gay guy who treated you like crap or like a piece of meat either. Most bi guys i met were horrendous to be honest and thats coming from a fellow bi man. Most on here since me and joanne joined started off ok but then it turns around to all the questions are about her. Far to many fab bi guys on here. Rather a gay guy any day as at least the ones i met were honest and upfront on what they were after! | |||
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"I have read posts were couples who are both bi have said that some men pretend to be bi just to get to the women. Is the reverse true ? A gay man pretending to be bi just to get to the male of the couple? " I don’t think so. Rare exceptions do exist however 1. most gays I know are not fun of women and pussies. 2. There are many more other “dating” platforms and sites where they can get what they want much easier and faster | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out I agree, a load of Codswallop Too much gay bashing on here, been a member for years before, but I always pull them up When you all ride in, you might want to (a) clarify your position as to how this is "gay-bashing" (Accepted that the Op as always has provocative threads) (b) show that sub sections of a massive community do not do as described (c) are denying peoples *lived* experiences, rather than some conjectural principle. m I could turn this around and outline everything I have seen over decades to current times with bi men what they get up to on the quiet, along with a good deal of t-girls. But I can guarantee you will not like it and it would paint a negative picture about each of those demographics on here. I will not lower myself however to your levels " Without question there have been decades of state repression and criminalisation of sexuality - with homosexuality the most unjust and blatant. Fortunately over the decades we have changed. On a site that openly discusses all sexualities - it is still important to be open about the nature of behaviours beyond the sexuality. There are countless threads discussing hetero cheating/faking/white knighting abuse - the sexuality has nothing to do with it. Normalising gender and sexuality differences means recognising the commonality - the people behind the sexuality. Getting aggressive sweary and threatening to out others behaviour does not particularly help, but if you have a path you want to explore put up a thread. | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out I agree, a load of Codswallop Too much gay bashing on here, been a member for years before, but I always pull them up When you all ride in, you might want to (a) clarify your position as to how this is "gay-bashing" (Accepted that the Op as always has provocative threads) (b) show that sub sections of a massive community do not do as described (c) are denying peoples *lived* experiences, rather than some conjectural principle. m I could turn this around and outline everything I have seen over decades to current times with bi men what they get up to on the quiet, along with a good deal of t-girls. But I can guarantee you will not like it and it would paint a negative picture about each of those demographics on here. I will not lower myself however to your levels Without question there have been decades of state repression and criminalisation of sexuality - with homosexuality the most unjust and blatant. Fortunately over the decades we have changed. On a site that openly discusses all sexualities - it is still important to be open about the nature of behaviours beyond the sexuality. There are countless threads discussing hetero cheating/faking/white knighting abuse - the sexuality has nothing to do with it. Normalising gender and sexuality differences means recognising the commonality - the people behind the sexuality. Getting aggressive sweary and threatening to out others behaviour does not particularly help, but if you have a path you want to explore put up a thread. " You are trying a bit too hard | |||
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"Sorry to resurrect this but many of you are talking complete and utter bullshit about gay men, sort it out " As a gay man maybe it’s because we like to meet men. Really it’s each to there own. Whilst we hate labels, kinks some even choose to what ethnicity they prefer, it’s the same with straight labels, we all have a choice and as a gay man my choice is to meet men. Trans TVs cross dressers all again have preferences on who they want to meet as do straight men who meet them. It’s a site for all to find what they are looking for. So berating a gay man because he doesn’t want to meet a trans woman isn’t fair. “Each to there own” I say, meet what turns you on. | |||
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