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"Think max and Lewis will come together at some point and both be knocked out " Good call. It could well get settled in the stewards room, although I’d much rather it was done on the track with a compelling race | |||
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"Who is going to win today Liberty Media." I agree. As a neutral I hope it is a great race and I think both Max and Lewis have great claims to be World Champion. | |||
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"That was a joke!!!" Definitely!! Never seen such a farce! | |||
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"That was a joke!!!" Yep! | |||
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"Mercedes will protest that result. I fear this championship will be decided in the courts in a couple of months time. But for now ….. MV33. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Unfortunately that will probably happen. Why they didn't let all the lapped cars through or just finish the race under the safety car baffles me! Well don MV tho, can't take this season's results away! | |||
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"I don't follow F1 so I'm not really bothered but I'm glad it wasn't Hamilton Mark" If you don't follow F1 how can you say that?? | |||
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"Thought Lewis was so far ahead. So how did it end up with a one lap race ? " Latifi crashed so safety car and bad FIA decisions | |||
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"First time watching F1 in a long time. Is it racing or just a TV show? I'll stick to bikes where its down to the rider. Proper racing, wheel to wheel" Dead right, well said. Give me bsb, wsb, and motogp anytime! | |||
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"So much for the stewards not deciding it. They just handed it to him. " Exactly!! | |||
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"Well I won't be watching F1 again . What a farce . Rules seem to be very stretched and interpretation was made so Max would win . Never seen that happen in any race before " Must have missed the first lap then? seen numerous times where that would have been both investigated and ruled a safe overtake, with a change of position ![]() | |||
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"If hamilton and max crashed and both out of the race at the end....would hamilton have been champion because of fastest lap extra point..not a regular watcher of F1" Not if he doesn't finish in the top 10 xx | |||
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"Integrity and fair play sacrificed for TV drama. Gutted for Hamilton who was so gracious in defeat, but well done Red Bull on the gamble and well done Veratappen." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I don't follow F1 so I'm not really bothered but I'm glad it wasn't Hamilton Mark" Well there's an erudite contribution! ![]() | |||
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"Can’t be good for F1 this. What a farce. Also, I’m not sure how satisfying a win that was for M-V. Still, Hamilton was absolutely class in his congratulations of Red Bull and MV. Certainly one of the greatest F1 drivers of all time. " Guarantee, wouldn't have been like that the other way round! | |||
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"I don't follow F1 so I'm not really bothered but I'm glad it wasn't Hamilton Mark" Bit uppity? ![]() | |||
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"Shocking race stewarding by Massi at the end. ALL lapped cars must be let through then the safety car comes in the following lap reg 39.12. He fucked it royally. Doubt Merc will win the appeal even though he got the rules completely wrong." Agree, to back track now would make F1 look very silly. | |||
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"On the upside, it's going to make a great episode of Drive to Survive! " That entire series from about imola onwards is going to be epic…. You could make a sub series on the final race alone….. | |||
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"On the upside, it's going to make a great episode of Drive to Survive! That entire series from about imola onwards is going to be epic…. You could make a sub series on the final race alone….." That's a good shout. Maybe a feature length episode. | |||
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"Casual observer of F1, tuned in today out of interest, most likely the last time I do, seems like a complete fix. Someone might have to explain, but Verstappen is 11 seconds down, then gets luxury of new tyres ( because he had nothing to lose so came in for them) and all of the cars that were in his way removed, whereas Hamilton had previously had to race around them. What exactly does Hamilton get to level all of this out?" We'll put, totally agree. What a farce | |||
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"Either way Ladbrokes have paid me out £185 on the £100 I had on Max to win the F1 championship back in June." I’d withdraw that £185 quickly before they try and recoup it off you. | |||
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"Either way Ladbrokes have paid me out £185 on the £100 I had on Max to win the F1 championship back in June. I’d withdraw that £185 quickly before they try and recoup it off you. " . I have left about £3 in the Ladbrokes’s account as it wouldn’t surprise me if they want it back. | |||
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"Can't see the decision being overturned but can see why Mercedes are not happy.. No harm to clarify to those making the decisions that they either abide by their own rules or if grey areas they have some sort of idea they can revert back to in their own rules.. What has been a season of high drama and two people worthy of winning has ended up with the whole thing looking a bit inept.." Totally agree.. If they want a Hollywood finish make a Holywood movie. I've only watched the last 3 races and all of them have made stuff up as they go along to suit who shouts loudest. Short term gain maybe but doesn't do the sports credibility any good at all. | |||
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"That was an excellent end to an amazing season, and for me max winning was very much deserved, a 1 lap shoot out came down to it. " Hardly a shoot out was it? Would have been if they both had fresh tyres though. | |||
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"That was an excellent end to an amazing season, and for me max winning was very much deserved, a 1 lap shoot out came down to it. Hardly a shoot out was it? Would have been if they both had fresh tyres though. " Good point, and what many of the Hamilton detractors who crticise his talent because he has a better car forget is that Verstappen effectively won the race because he had better tyres! | |||
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"Who is going to win today " Netflix won big time! ![]() | |||
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"I’m not a F1 fan at all (despite being a massive sports fan) . The sport just seems riddled with controversy and that just puts me right off. I remember the days of Prost, Senna etc . In those days things just seemed ‘cleaner’. " I think Suzuka in 1989 would suggest that it was certainly not “cleaner”. | |||
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"One protest booted out. " It was the protest about verstappen being ahead of Hamilton at the safety car start when Lewis in effect would have been the safety car… The whole safety car start procedure is the big one to untangle….. | |||
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"One protest booted out. It was the protest about verstappen being ahead of Hamilton at the safety car start when Lewis in effect would have been the safety car… The whole safety car start procedure is the big one to untangle….." Did anyone else notice Verstappen seemed to have all 4 wheels off the track in the last corner ?? | |||
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"It stands. ![]() Yes till it goes to court. ![]() | |||
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"Paddy Power paying out on Lewis Hamilton winning both that Grand Prix and also the championship. " Well done paddy I have my paddy power boxers on now ![]() | |||
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"It stands. ![]() ![]() They are saying the rule wasn’t applied properly… but the race director has the power to pull in the safety car whenever he wants and that has the override…. | |||
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"Who is going to win today Netflix won big time! ![]() That's the only time I watch it. Can't wait for the next season ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Who is going to win today Netflix won big time! ![]() ![]() ![]() Neither can I! The backstage intrigue will be delicious to see ![]() | |||
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"I’m not a F1 fan at all (despite being a massive sports fan) . The sport just seems riddled with controversy and that just puts me right off. I remember the days of Prost, Senna etc . In those days things just seemed ‘cleaner’. I think Suzuka in 1989 would suggest that it was certainly not “cleaner”." I certainly take your point in board. Maybe it’s just me but in those days that was the exception to the rule IMO. Nowadays every other race is controversial. This season was a good case in point. Maybe it’s just the sheer amount of money being pumped into sport that it seeks to be win at all costs. | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch" Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke. | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke." Who was the aggressor into the first turn ? Max as he knew he would not beat Lewis and was luck with 3 safety cars or would of been 5 seconds well clear at the finish | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke. Who was the aggressor into the first turn ? Max as he knew he would not beat Lewis and was luck with 3 safety cars or would of been 5 seconds well clear at the finish" Talking about luck, if you browse Hamiltons luck of good fortune in the past if he fell in shit he would smell of roses. Can't wait until he gets put in an uncompetitive car again next year and he will be a petulant midfielder blaming everyone else for their decisions. | |||
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"As the eagle eyed among you may have guessed by my username, I’m a big fan of motor sport in general. ![]() I get what you mean about that le man… but everyone knew the rule is 24hrs plus 1 lap, and you have to complete that one lap!!! In this situation they are basically acknowledging that the rules wasn’t applied properly, because if it has that race wouldn’t have restarted, but race director has power to change that rule…. Which then makes all the politicking seem really really unseemly…. As it look like red bull and Horner got massi to change his mind and then toto objected… | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke. Who was the aggressor into the first turn ? Max as he knew he would not beat Lewis and was luck with 3 safety cars or would of been 5 seconds well clear at the finish Talking about luck, if you browse Hamiltons luck of good fortune in the past if he fell in shit he would smell of roses. Can't wait until he gets put in an uncompetitive car again next year and he will be a petulant midfielder blaming everyone else for their decisions. Just like his karting days when he cleaned up in a far in superior car " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Does anyone smell a rat? There’s a rat in mi kitchen,There’s a rat in my kitchen " | |||
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"One protest booted out. It was the protest about verstappen being ahead of Hamilton at the safety car start when Lewis in effect would have been the safety car… The whole safety car start procedure is the big one to untangle….. Did anyone else notice Verstappen seemed to have all 4 wheels off the track in the last corner ??" Not as much as i noticed Hamilton having all 4 off the track on the first lap and gaining ground, having left the door wide open for Max, who was in front at the apex and had the racing line | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke." But your synopsis fails on a significant point, the team with the best car want the best person to drive it..'anyone' can't manage an F1 supermachine to it's peak performance. | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke. But your synopsis fails on a significant point, the team with the best car want the best person to drive it..'anyone' can't manage an F1 supermachine to it's peak performance. " Uncanny then how George Russell rocked up as a last minute replacement last year for Lewis and would have won were it not for a puncture. Lewis has been in the right team at the right time for far too many years and bottas being his bitch for far too long. | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch" The funny thing is if Hamilton gave the place back he wrongly took on the first lap he may well have been in Max’s position. Karma is a bitch lol. | |||
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"A sad day for Mika Hakkinen not finishing his last F1 race. Great to see he was awarded driver of the day and a standing ovation from the stand. " Mika wasn’t in the race Kimi was lol | |||
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"Karma for 2008 when he won thanks to a dodgy Glock slowing down, Max even slightly slower car proved he is the man now" The modern day retelling of aesops fabled tortoise and the hare? | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke. But your synopsis fails on a significant point, the team with the best car want the best person to drive it..'anyone' can't manage an F1 supermachine to it's peak performance. Uncanny then how George Russell rocked up as a last minute replacement last year for Lewis and would have won were it not for a puncture. Lewis has been in the right team at the right time for far too many years and bottas being his bitch for far too long." George Russell isn't 'anyone' either. Do you think he would have performed badly in a Red Bull? | |||
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"I’m not a F1 fan at all (despite being a massive sports fan) . The sport just seems riddled with controversy and that just puts me right off. I remember the days of Prost, Senna etc . In those days things just seemed ‘cleaner’. I think Suzuka in 1989 would suggest that it was certainly not “cleaner”. I certainly take your point in board. Maybe it’s just me but in those days that was the exception to the rule IMO. Nowadays every other race is controversial. This season was a good case in point. Maybe it’s just the sheer amount of money being pumped into sport that it seeks to be win at all costs. " F1 has always been like that. Hunt and Lauda were hardly buddies. Schumacher and his ban for trying to take Villeneuve out in 1997 or maybe Schumacher and Hill at Adelaide in 1994? I think you are looking at the world through rose tinted spectacles. | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke. But your synopsis fails on a significant point, the team with the best car want the best person to drive it..'anyone' can't manage an F1 supermachine to it's peak performance. Uncanny then how George Russell rocked up as a last minute replacement last year for Lewis and would have won were it not for a puncture. Lewis has been in the right team at the right time for far too many years and bottas being his bitch for far too long." Incidentally Hamilton has driven consistently well for nearly 15 years, a feat in itself..and he wasn't always in best car. | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke. But your synopsis fails on a significant point, the team with the best car want the best person to drive it..'anyone' can't manage an F1 supermachine to it's peak performance. Uncanny then how George Russell rocked up as a last minute replacement last year for Lewis and would have won were it not for a puncture. Lewis has been in the right team at the right time for far too many years and bottas being his bitch for far too long. George Russell isn't 'anyone' either. Do you think he would have performed badly in a Red Bull?" Worse than he did in the Merc. Count how many of Hamiltons overtakes are straight line DRS aided and there's very little skill involved. I'm not saying he's a bad driver just don't think he deserves the plaudits he gets, and as for getting a knighthood its a joke. | |||
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"Karma for 2008 when he won thanks to a dodgy Glock slowing down, Max even slightly slower car proved he is the man now The modern day retelling of aesops fabled tortoise and the hare? " To be honest, the finish was a farce. It ruined the race entirely. I personally think that safety cars destroy races anyway, but in this case the random decision to only allow the cars between Lewis and Max pass the safety car so that Max and Lewis could "race" (with Max's huge advantage) was blatantly the wrong thing to do. Mercedes are right to be cross, but I don't see the result being changed. Cal | |||
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"Karma for 2008 when he won thanks to a dodgy Glock slowing down, Max even slightly slower car proved he is the man now The modern day retelling of aesops fabled tortoise and the hare? To be honest, the finish was a farce. It ruined the race entirely. I personally think that safety cars destroy races anyway, but in this case the random decision to only allow the cars between Lewis and Max pass the safety car so that Max and Lewis could "race" (with Max's huge advantage) was blatantly the wrong thing to do. Mercedes are right to be cross, but I don't see the result being changed. Cal" Safety car rules should go back to the early 90s where the time you were ahead or the gap to the car behind was calculated and added to your time, stops the likes of dodgy going one like piquet jnr purposely crashing to aid Renault | |||
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"Karma for 2008 when he won thanks to a dodgy Glock slowing down, Max even slightly slower car proved he is the man now The modern day retelling of aesops fabled tortoise and the hare? To be honest, the finish was a farce. It ruined the race entirely. I personally think that safety cars destroy races anyway, but in this case the random decision to only allow the cars between Lewis and Max pass the safety car so that Max and Lewis could "race" (with Max's huge advantage) was blatantly the wrong thing to do. Mercedes are right to be cross, but I don't see the result being changed. Cal Safety car rules should go back to the early 90s where the time you were ahead or the gap to the car behind was calculated and added to your time, stops the likes of dodgy going one like piquet jnr purposely crashing to aid Renault" Personally I think: if VSC isn't enough, then it should be a red-flag. Cars line up in the order they are in (including lapped cars) and when it's safe to race, they are released one at a time at the time intervals that were present when they stopped... and no working on the car or changing tyres. Cal | |||
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"Personally I think: if VSC isn't enough, then it should be a red-flag. Cars line up in the order they are in (including lapped cars) and when it's safe to race, they are released one at a time at the time intervals that were present when they stopped... and no working on the car or changing tyres. Cal" I like this idea but what should actually happen is that the cars line up in race order and then depart at their alloted slots. The only reason you have lapped cars in the way is because the track is too small for a complete race and your idea would be a good way of unwinding that. | |||
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"Right man won. No punishment on first lap for Hamilton. So pay backs a bitch Completely agree, watched F1 for over 30 years avidly but the last few years have been boring as watching paint dry. Put me in a Lamborghini and watch me race off at a set of traffic lights against a robin reliant,hardly call it a race or skillful. Christian Horner said it how it was after last week's race, anyone can drive fast in a straight line but takes a skilled driver in the corners! This GOAT for Hamilton is a joke. But your synopsis fails on a significant point, the team with the best car want the best person to drive it..'anyone' can't manage an F1 supermachine to it's peak performance. Uncanny then how George Russell rocked up as a last minute replacement last year for Lewis and would have won were it not for a puncture. Lewis has been in the right team at the right time for far too many years and bottas being his bitch for far too long. George Russell isn't 'anyone' either. Do you think he would have performed badly in a Red Bull? Worse than he did in the Merc. Count how many of Hamiltons overtakes are straight line DRS aided and there's very little skill involved. I'm not saying he's a bad driver just don't think he deserves the plaudits he gets, and as for getting a knighthood its a joke." Turkish GP, 2020 Hamilton was in a class of his own, in heavy rain on slippery, recently re laid tarmac. Bottas in the same car finished 14th after many spins. Verstappen and Albon in the Red Bulls were also nowhere, a distant 6th and 7th, in the admittedly tricky RB16. It was an utter masterclass and probably the best drive Hamilton has had in his career. Not very skillful? Hardly. ![]() | |||
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"So a race on a circuit that purely got the last race rights due to money, was ruined by a driver crashing that only got his place on the grid due to money, which has caused money money money money. And ironically the biggest loser is the guy who has fought up from a non money background. Money. " i dont see a driver on the grid who hasnt come from a well off family, if your talking about Hamalton, well i know the family, and did before his rise as a star, they werent poor | |||
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"So a race on a circuit that purely got the last race rights due to money, was ruined by a driver crashing that only got his place on the grid due to money, which has caused money money money money. And ironically the biggest loser is the guy who has fought up from a non money background. Money. i dont see a driver on the grid who hasnt come from a well off family, if your talking about Hamalton, well i know the family, and did before his rise as a star, they werent poor" Have you messaged them? They must be fuming/devastated ![]() | |||
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"I think you have been watching too many Hollywood F1 films. Hunt & Lauda were and remained very good friends but fierce rivals on the track. Lauda even gave up the race in Japan allowing James to win the WC. They were good friends in F3 and continued until death to remain good friends." Lauda dropped out of the Japanese race because the weather was atrocious and he thought it was too dangerous. He didn’t drop out to let Hunt win because he was his friend. | |||
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"I think you have been watching too many Hollywood F1 films. Hunt & Lauda were and remained very good friends but fierce rivals on the track. Lauda even gave up the race in Japan allowing James to win the WC. They were good friends in F3 and continued until death to remain good friends. Lauda dropped out of the Japanese race because the weather was atrocious and he thought it was too dangerous. He didn’t drop out to let Hunt win because he was his friend." You're right there, it was the weather but it was not win at all costs. I had the pleasure to meet them both, Lauda at BRM and James in the Brabham suite at Brands...I raced single seaters for 30 years and still race! | |||
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"Cheating Hamilton lost. Whooop. Get on with it...... a new era begins " Odd post as ever. | |||
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"Cheating Hamilton lost. Whooop. Get on with it...... a new era begins " , At last someone to put him in his place... Is this the end for Mr H? | |||
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"Will add the funniest reply i have seen which may upset some people but please take it for what it is a joke in a bad It wasn't an overtake Lewis just took 57 laps to give the place back " ![]() | |||
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"this is the problem when a sport is sold to an entertainment company, the sport side of things goes out the window, its all about viewers etc, and it seems to has worked as look we are talking about it, do i think what happened was rigged, absolutly, but i think Massy was a pown in all this, and im sure he wont be around next year, its a shame, as ive worked in motor racing all my life, and never seen anything like it, but if thats what the public whant etc" I don’t buy the suggestion that this was staged in any way or that the media company that own f1 are enjoying this in any way. All of the publicity is negative, with lots of people saying it is a joke and that they won’t watch f1 any more. | |||
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"So a race on a circuit that purely got the last race rights due to money, was ruined by a driver crashing that only got his place on the grid due to money, which has caused money money money money. And ironically the biggest loser is the guy who has fought up from a non money background. Money. " If you dont think Max can drive a car you are mad There is a reason hes one of the best drivers in IRacing aswell And Hamiltons family is certainly not poor plus having all his karting paid for by Mclaren | |||
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"Cheating Hamilton lost. Whooop. Get on with it...... a new era begins " Ah, the racist couple are back! | |||
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"Cheating Hamilton lost. Whooop. Get on with it...... a new era begins Ah, the racist couple are back!" His answer you replied to has no mention of race in it. Where does your comment come from. | |||
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"Cheating Hamilton lost. Whooop. Get on with it...... a new era begins Ah, the racist couple are back! His answer you replied to has no mention of race in it. Where does your comment come from. " Another thread on Hamilton a few days ago where they were spreading unfounded hate towards him and the fact he drove a German car (even though the team are based in the UK, but anyway). | |||
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"Personally I think: if VSC isn't enough, then it should be a red-flag. Cars line up in the order they are in (including lapped cars) and when it's safe to race, they are released one at a time at the time intervals that were present when they stopped... and no working on the car or changing tyres. Cal I like this idea but what should actually happen is that the cars line up in race order and then depart at their alloted slots. The only reason you have lapped cars in the way is because the track is too small for a complete race and your idea would be a good way of unwinding that. " But then, the cars behind would have the advantage of not having to pass back markers that others needed to. Nobody should get any advantage from a stoppage | |||
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"So a race on a circuit that purely got the last race rights due to money, was ruined by a driver crashing that only got his place on the grid due to money, which has caused money money money money. And ironically the biggest loser is the guy who has fought up from a non money background. Money. i dont see a driver on the grid who hasnt come from a well off family, if your talking about Hamalton, well i know the family, and did before his rise as a star, they werent poor Have you messaged them? They must be fuming/devastated ![]() think they have enough on thier plate now, altho do have lewis number and antonys | |||
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