FabSwingers.com forum: Do you see Christmas as being about Jesus, or Santa or both?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

When I was growing up it was all about the birth of Jesus and the nativity. It seems these days it’s all about Santa / Father Christmas.

What do you associate Christmas with more? The religious side or the commercial side or can you have a happy medium between them both?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was brought up in a Christian home, so it was about the birth of Jesus. Now, I'm not fussed about it at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither.. all about the food.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A well earned end of year break, to be honest

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Neither.. all about the food."

and drink!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"A well earned end of year break, to be honest"

amen to that!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I was brought up in a Christian home, so it was about the birth of Jesus. Now, I'm not fussed about it at all."

Yeah it’s rare to see any reference to to the nativity in the run up these days. It’s strange!

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

A bit of both and great big amount of my beautiful family time

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By *ussle SproutMan
over a year ago

the middle

"Neither.. all about the food."

Out of 100 people surveyed this was the top answer

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"A bit of both and great big amount of my beautiful family time

yes! And after last year even more so this time around for those fortunate enough to be in that position

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By *hil most chillMan
over a year ago

South East & Europe

"A well earned end of year break, to be honest"

Exactly this. It’s nothing more than time off work to me. So merry Christmas one and all!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its about roasting a fat turkey/chicken and gorging yourself on food and getting d*unk

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

I don't believe Jesus was the son of God or did anything particularly good. Christmas is more about the Father Christmas side for me. Luke

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I don't like how Christmas has become so commercialised and materialistic, that families are put under pressure to blow the budget to the point of taking out expensive pay day loans to cover it all.

I'd rather keep it about Jesus and use it as a time of year to consider those less fortunate or in need.

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By *issYeuxBleusWoman
over a year ago

My boudoir - S Wales

"A well earned end of year break, to be honest

Exactly this. It’s nothing more than time off work to me. So merry Christmas one and all!!"

This for me too. Why couldn’t Christmas be in the middle of summer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well jesus didnt have a choice he made no list, he got what he was given, gold frankincense & myr... and he was happy.

Now days everyone makes a list.. then santa emptys his sack underneath your tree with the contents of the list, so id say iTs about santa claus nowadays.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

Both maybe. Both dudes have beards. Jesus was around thousands of years ago. Most men put on weight over the years. Connection maybe? Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was brought up in a Christian home, so it was about the birth of Jesus. Now, I'm not fussed about it at all.

Yeah it’s rare to see any reference to to the nativity in the run up these days. It’s strange!"

It is.

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By *magine all the peopleCouple
over a year ago

Perth

Voodoo mumbo jumbo.

At least it's a holiday.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thank you everyone!! Yes it is a chance for a nice break for many of us, and a chance to gorge out on food etc! I think we all deserve it after the year we’ve had.

And love and hugs to those not so fortunate to be able to enjoy the festive season for whatever reason this year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither, all about the Famalam

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not religious so it's about family time, pretty lights and food.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Neither, its just a commercial week off from work designed to guilt trip people into spending money.

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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

I find Christmas to be be a massive pain in the arse on so so many many levels.

Pfffft

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find Christmas to be be a massive pain in the arse on so so many many levels.

Pfffft

Agreed! My mother doesn't understand why I'm so over it. It's just another day to me x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Satanist leanings soo.... Its all about the Food and presents

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By *ilverjagMan
over a year ago

swansea

I must admit that until two years ago when pandemic hit, for me Santa's sleigh was a TUI jet heading for one or other of the Canary islands, pina colada at a pool side with waiters running round in Santa hats, and a tan top up into the bargain, not to mention gala dinner, was what made a year of graft all worthwhile.

Those days will hopefully return though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's neither for (although I'm guilty of getting a bit caught up in the commercial side of it). It's really just a designated point in the year where everything pauses and people are nicer to each other and can spend time together.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Festive Saturday morning bump! Have a good day everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was brought up a Christian so seen it more of about the north of Jesus…. Then when I had kids it was all about family and enjoying it …. But now it’s an excuse to drink and eat far too much and I’m a bit of a humph grumpy as I moan about how much it costs me xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Santa. It's more plausible than Jesus so I'm going with that. We see santa on commercials, visiting children on streets, in shopping centres. Noone brings out jesus when we need a little cheering up. Jesus certainly doesn't turn up when you've ran out of wine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a pagan festival for a start lol

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Growing up, Jesus.

Now, neither. Family, community, giving, hope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Growing up it was Jesus but we are not Christians, I'm agonist and hubby is a Dudeist.

It's a pagan festival anyway just adopted by Christianity.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Father Christmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's neither for (although I'm guilty of getting a bit caught up in the commercial side of it). It's really just a designated point in the year where everything pauses and people are nicer to each other and can spend time together. "

I love the commercialisation of it, that it's been snatched from the clutches of organised religious control freaks. People took it and made it their own.

Beautiful freedom. Authoritarian institutions hate that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was raised Christian, but I don't believe Jesus was born on 25th December. It's more about family for me now as I'm older. And dinner, I like Christmas dinner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Neither, its just a commercial week off from work designed to guilt trip people into spending money."

And it's a shit week off because the weather is crap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Christmas food and time off work. As well as twinkly lights.

Mostly seeing people that little bit happier.

I love all the build up to Christmas, I don't really love the day itself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see it as neither. I can only see it as a time when bad shit has happened to me or my friends, and a time I’d rather just let slip by without a song n dance.

For the record, I’m not a grinch, and I’m happy for those who love this time of year. I won’t be miserable among people if I’m invited to visit. It’s just a big old kerfuffle for me.

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By *aturegentdurhamMan
over a year ago

Stanley

It about UFOs and the rendlesham forest incident.

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By *oonshadowWoman
over a year ago

COVENTRY

Christmas is about reindeers,donkeys, sprouts and puddings full of dried fruit.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

To be honest it’s mostly about quality family time for me these days. I only have my mum and my kids so I enjoy the time together.

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

"I don't believe Jesus was the son of God or did anything particularly good. Christmas is more about the Father Christmas side for me. Luke "

If God was the father of Jesus, that means he made another mans wife pregnant.

But you must not commit adultery God said

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"Neither.. all about the food."

Close family and friends with food.

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire

For me it is a faith Holiday. But also about friends and family fun and laughter. No reason it can't be both.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like how Christmas has become so commercialised and materialistic, that families are put under pressure to blow the budget to the point of taking out expensive pay day loans to cover it all.

I'd rather keep it about Jesus and use it as a time of year to consider those less fortunate or in need. "

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Growing up it was Jesus but we are not Christians, I'm agonist "

Do you believe in pain ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither, it's about money

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By *hroatQueen_CATV/TS
over a year ago

Carlisle

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I'm not religious so I use the holiday season as a reason to eat, drink and be merry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither. It's about being with family or being with those without family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All about Elf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s all about food and drink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

John Lewis is my Jesus, and my Father Christmas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These days its only about my children. When they get older then possibly grandchildren. Outside of that I see it as 2 weeks off work to relax and enjoy the general feel good atmosphere

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

Neither - it's a pagan festival

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Christmas/December to me is family, friends, drink, food, fun, and pressies.

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By *ilverjagMan
over a year ago

swansea

"It's a pagan festival for a start lol

E "

Funny you should mention that it's a pagan festival, which I dare say is open to debate, but I did read an article about pagan festivals, including Christmas being celebrated around mid winter. The reason given was that we homosapians are basically animals, albeit the most ad animals on the planet, and human male of our species is at his most potent, and sexually active around mid winter day. It's effectively the height of the mating season for us lot, hence the rituals and festivals round about now. You however may know more on this subject than I do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ll certainly use that info as an excuse

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By *rK MrsJCouple
over a year ago

Kidderminster

It's all about be politically correct now you can't mention anything to do with religion like the nativity or Christmas, It has to be happy holidays but I'm afraid it will always be happy Christmas from me.

Happy Christmas to all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No family here & no children so for me, now, it's the literal meaning of the days getting longer.

I absolutely hate winters and Christmas means that winter is slooowwwly fu cking off, days will be longer - spring is around the corner.

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

Morden Christmas is probably more to do with selling stuff to people. It's a pagan festival and American thanks giving crossed together. But whatever it's become at least it's a few more days spend catching up with your family.

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan
over a year ago

Sussex

"Neither.. all about the food."

It is a feast after all.- A time for our inner Pagan to come out.

Happy Solstice to all fab. Have a cool Yule everyone.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

It's about spending time with family and exchanging gifts.

Father Christmas (Santa is American) was very much part of it when the children were small.

Not religious in any way. It's a hijacked pagan festival anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me it's all about a relaxing 2 weeks around Christmas as I always keep a few days holidays back to take at Christmas and therefore lengthen tbe break.

I hate the commercialism, my friends and I don't exchange presents by mutual agreement. There's something mad about shopping for what you think someone might like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Santa was Jesus brother.. After jesus was killed on the cross and he became a zombie him and santa got the idea of giving gifts to all the none Jewish boys and girls that hadn't wanted him dead.. This was the start of the good/naughty list...

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By *urvelover39Man
over a year ago

Somewhere

"Santa was Jesus brother.. After jesus was killed on the cross and he became a zombie him and santa got the idea of giving gifts to all the none Jewish boys and girls that hadn't wanted him dead.. This was the start of the good/naughty list... "

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By *ldbutrandyMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

Both characters from fairy stories , so. as an adult its just a break to be spent with family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A well earned end of year break, to be honest"
This!!

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By *agic.MMan
over a year ago

Orpington

Vin Diesel said it's about FAMILY

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By *hubby CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Essex

Greed… this year nobodies getting a present except the kids

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

It will always mean something different to everyone but should definitely be about love and kindness, not about gluttony or getting into debt to buy ever more extravagant presents or expect to be given such presents. In my very humble opinion, anyway.

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By *ixi n DogCouple
over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

There's nothing Christian about having sex with other people outside of a marriage, I'd have thought the baby Jebus would be the last thing on the minds of people on here!

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By *l MateMan
over a year ago

Sheffield Centre

I mainly spend it with my family and catch up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jesus and family. I've just put my nativity out and decorations around the family pictures on the wall.

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By *odgerMooreMan
over a year ago

Nowhere

You never see them both in the same room… could be the same person?? Could also be Batman as never see Santa & Batman together!!!

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

I was raised as a Catholic. Now it’s about spending time with family but when my kids were smaller it was all about Santa & the fun stuff that went with it with a tiny bit of religion thrown in such as the church service where we sang carols & took a present for the children in the local Women’s Aid refuge.

J x

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By *ixedDevilMan
over a year ago

Bootyville

None of the above

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither. I see it as a celebration of family.

It's a good thing to appreciate your loved ones when the days are at their darkest.

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

"I don't like how Christmas has become so commercialised and materialistic, that families are put under pressure to blow the budget to the point of taking out expensive pay day loans to cover it all.

I'd rather keep it about Jesus and use it as a time of year to consider those less fortunate or in need. "

Excellent comments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is about christ but comercial greed makes us forget that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You never see them both in the same room… could be the same person?? Could also be Batman as never see Santa & Batman together!!!

Is that you Shawn Ryder?

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By *ob08Man
over a year ago

Macclesfield

Well you can have Christmas without santa, but we wouldn't have Christmas without Jesus, so I'll go for Jesus.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

We lost the true meaning of Christmas a long time ago …..

It’s a commercially successful attempt to bankrupt general public with over priced good and services.

Your family should mean as much to you EVERY DAY of the year as they do at Christmas.

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By *lutForYou69Woman
over a year ago

Bristol

Santa

Never really believed in Jesus or anything religious when I was a kid, only reason why I read some of the bible when I was 10 because I wanted to see if there was anything about the devil ffs...I was a weird kid... got about 12 verses in and got bored

My immediate family isn’t really religious anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just see it as a pain in the arse

It costs me more money than it's worth

and i always get shit i dont need or want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I simply see it as a day off lol

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

None. I see it as a time to celebrate my family and friends, with all the busy rushing around its nice to just stop and enjoy the people closest to me

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Christmas can be about anything...Jesus, Santa, Tree, Presents, Carols, Dinner, TV (and falling asleep in front of it, Queens Speech, Quality Street etc

Merry Christmas!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's a pagan winter festival that the christians incorporated. Long dark days, plenty of time together, to party

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

"It's a pagan festival for a start lol

Funny you should mention that it's a pagan festival, which I dare say is open to debate....."

Its a pretty poor debate when the Pagans had a winter solstice celebrating the coming of longer days- or the 'birth of the sun', and also celebrated the spring equinox- the time of 'rebirth' (Hmmmm, lets rebrand it as Easter?)- then this other lot turned up and conveniently had a story fitted in with both (just wiggle some dates round a little to suit). All you had to do was do as we say and give us some of your money/crops/livestock so we don't have to graft for it

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By *ackdaw52Man
over a year ago

Chesterfield

'Santa' as he is now known predates Jesus.

Christmas is about my dad bringing home a big fat bird and telling mum to stuff it.

Grandpa enjoying a nice rough Shag by the fire...

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"It's about spending time with family and exchanging gifts.

Father Christmas (Santa is American) was very much part of it when the children were small.

Not religious in any way. It's a hijacked pagan festival anyway

I thought that "Santa Claus" was a corruption of "Saint Nicolas". It appears to have started from Sinter Klaas, a shortened form of Sint Nikolaas (Dutch for Saint Nicholas).

Cal

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By *ylvie 888Woman
over a year ago

Cleethorpes

Its just another day/time of year that involves more work than usual!

I dont feel a bar humbug is quite where I'm at, because I love giving gifts to friends and family whom I love.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was brought up in a Christian home, so it was about the birth of Jesus. Now, I'm not fussed about it at all.

Yeah it’s rare to see any reference to to the nativity in the run up these days. It’s strange!"

The nativity features high in my life, partly because I'm a Christian (i have no idea how i am a Christian swinger

) but also one of my grandchildren goes to a village church school, throughout the year they have various Christian events, the certificates the children get always have a quote from the bible and this week they have a nativity concert on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So for me, Christmas is about religion and also santa and a family time too.

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