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"Just watching sex education and two of the male characters go to have sec for the first time and both were going for the ‘bottom’ position. So what happens then if you got into dating or a relationship or even a sex meet, what happens if both of you wanna bottom or both wanna top? How do you work it out?" Wrestle | |||
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"Just watching sex education and two of the male characters go to have sec for the first time and both were going for the ‘bottom’ position. So what happens then if you got into dating or a relationship or even a sex meet, what happens if both of you wanna bottom or both wanna top? How do you work it out?" Invite third parties in  | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all " This ^^^^ | |||
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"Just watching sex education and two of the male characters go to have sec for the first time and both were going for the ‘bottom’ position. So what happens then if you got into dating or a relationship or even a sex meet, what happens if both of you wanna bottom or both wanna top? How do you work it out?" Perhaps.... a duel? Depending on the positioning, either a sword fight(or maybe Jousting), or bottom butting (imagine males rams headbutting but rather battering with their botties).  | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all " That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration | |||
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"Just watching sex education and two of the male characters go to have sec for the first time and both were going for the ‘bottom’ position. So what happens then if you got into dating or a relationship or even a sex meet, what happens if both of you wanna bottom or both wanna top? How do you work it out?" Like anything Communication Not that hard | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration "I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman. | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman. "This is how the legal and justice system views/viewed sex too. The vast majority of people think the same too; sex is only sex if penetration occurs | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman. "That’s going to seriously mess up those ‘Am I Bi’ threads, when some guy wants to know if sucking a cock now makes him bisexual.  | |||
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"Just watching sex education and two of the male characters go to have sec for the first time and both were going for the ‘bottom’ position. So what happens then if you got into dating or a relationship or even a sex meet, what happens if both of you wanna bottom or both wanna top? How do you work it out?" It depends on how set you both are. In my experience I’ve had guys that I got on great with but it didn’t go further because we both were uncomfortable switching. This is why it’s important to communicate and be clear about what you both want from fairly early on. In the situation on the programme, it’s just communication and clarity | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman.
That’s going to seriously mess up those ‘Am I Bi’ threads, when some guy wants to know if sucking a cock now makes him bisexual. "
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No it doesn’t now make him bisexual, he always was | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman.
This is how the legal and justice system views/viewed sex too.
The vast majority of people think the same too; sex is only sex if penetration occurs"I think that's very true but perhaps they don't change it because changing it to something like "sexual act" can leave things very open to interpretation. But then by putting it in a box (no pun intended) then like Lacey said, women and men (to an extent) don't have sex with each other. Not sure what the wider implications of that is though. | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman.
This is how the legal and justice system views/viewed sex too.
The vast majority of people think the same too; sex is only sex if penetration occurs
I think that's very true but perhaps they don't change it because changing it to something like "sexual act" can leave things very open to interpretation. But then by putting it in a box (no pun intended) then like Lacey said, women and men (to an extent) don't have sex with each other. Not sure what the wider implications of that is though. "It’s a very sexist attitude, it implies that only men can have sex. I see what you’re saying, it does bring into question ‘what constitutes sex?’ | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman.
This is how the legal and justice system views/viewed sex too.
The vast majority of people think the same too; sex is only sex if penetration occurs
I think that's very true but perhaps they don't change it because changing it to something like "sexual act" can leave things very open to interpretation. But then by putting it in a box (no pun intended) then like Lacey said, women and men (to an extent) don't have sex with each other. Not sure what the wider implications of that is though.
It’s a very sexist attitude, it implies that only men can have sex.
I see what you’re saying, it does bring into question ‘what constitutes sex?’ "Ahhh you're right, seems the law definitely needs broadening and they need to determine what that line it. I wonder how women feel about "technically not having sex" unless a man is involved or maybe I'm reading too much into it  | |||
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"Usually I ask before a meet has been arranged, that way this doesnt happen. Or it gives an idea what is expected during the meeting." This, I make sure the guy knows if he's meeting me that he's the one doing the fucking and I'm the one doing the sucking. | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman.
This is how the legal and justice system views/viewed sex too.
The vast majority of people think the same too; sex is only sex if penetration occurs
I think that's very true but perhaps they don't change it because changing it to something like "sexual act" can leave things very open to interpretation. But then by putting it in a box (no pun intended) then like Lacey said, women and men (to an extent) don't have sex with each other. Not sure what the wider implications of that is though.
It’s a very sexist attitude, it implies that only men can have sex.
I see what you’re saying, it does bring into question ‘what constitutes sex?’
Ahhh you're right, seems the law definitely needs broadening and they need to determine what that line it. I wonder how women feel about "technically not having sex" unless a man is involved or maybe I'm reading too much into it "The criminal law doesn't specifically define sex. It does however have offences dealing with both penetrative and non penetrative sexual touching. Additionally, R#pe can be vaginal, anal or oral, so the criminal law has it mostly covered | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman.
This is how the legal and justice system views/viewed sex too.
The vast majority of people think the same too; sex is only sex if penetration occurs
I think that's very true but perhaps they don't change it because changing it to something like "sexual act" can leave things very open to interpretation. But then by putting it in a box (no pun intended) then like Lacey said, women and men (to an extent) don't have sex with each other. Not sure what the wider implications of that is though.
It’s a very sexist attitude, it implies that only men can have sex.
I see what you’re saying, it does bring into question ‘what constitutes sex?’
Ahhh you're right, seems the law definitely needs broadening and they need to determine what that line it. I wonder how women feel about "technically not having sex" unless a man is involved or maybe I'm reading too much into it "If memory serves, there was a thread about it fairly recently. I’m not sure how that question would go down with our lesbian friends though… | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman.
This is how the legal and justice system views/viewed sex too.
The vast majority of people think the same too; sex is only sex if penetration occurs
I think that's very true but perhaps they don't change it because changing it to something like "sexual act" can leave things very open to interpretation. But then by putting it in a box (no pun intended) then like Lacey said, women and men (to an extent) don't have sex with each other. Not sure what the wider implications of that is though.
It’s a very sexist attitude, it implies that only men can have sex.
I see what you’re saying, it does bring into question ‘what constitutes sex?’
Ahhh you're right, seems the law definitely needs broadening and they need to determine what that line it. I wonder how women feel about "technically not having sex" unless a man is involved or maybe I'm reading too much into it
The criminal law doesn't specifically define sex. It does however have offences dealing with both penetrative and non penetrative sexual touching.
Additionally, R#pe can be vaginal, anal or oral, so the criminal law has it mostly covered "Assault is covered, however there are huge gaping holes (ahem) regarding consensual sex | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration
I also have gay friends who don't have penetrative sex. I guess just like heterosexual couples, not everyone enjoys anal sex. This is something I've always struggled with with heteros as they don't consider things like oral sex to be "proper sex". Therefore I have friends who don't count people they only had non-penetrative sex with in the number of people they have had sex with. If I use the same logic, I've never had sex with another woman.
This is how the legal and justice system views/viewed sex too.
The vast majority of people think the same too; sex is only sex if penetration occurs
I think that's very true but perhaps they don't change it because changing it to something like "sexual act" can leave things very open to interpretation. But then by putting it in a box (no pun intended) then like Lacey said, women and men (to an extent) don't have sex with each other. Not sure what the wider implications of that is though.
It’s a very sexist attitude, it implies that only men can have sex.
I see what you’re saying, it does bring into question ‘what constitutes sex?’
Ahhh you're right, seems the law definitely needs broadening and they need to determine what that line it. I wonder how women feel about "technically not having sex" unless a man is involved or maybe I'm reading too much into it
The criminal law doesn't specifically define sex. It does however have offences dealing with both penetrative and non penetrative sexual touching.
Additionally, R#pe can be vaginal, anal or oral, so the criminal law has it mostly covered
Assault is covered, however there are huge gaping holes (ahem) regarding consensual sex"I don't follow... if its consensual, where does the law need to get involved? | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all " Not sure they are gay then? | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all Not sure they are gay then? " You don't have to have anal sex or any form of sex whatsoever to be gay. You can be celibate, a virgin, or only ever have slept with women all your life and still be gay. | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all Not sure they are gay then? You don't have to have anal sex or any form of sex whatsoever to be gay. You can be celibate, a virgin, or only ever have slept with women all your life and still be gay." | |||
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"all i can add is that while im bi, im not into anal, giving or recieving, so just cock play really, i dont fancy men, just enjoy cock play" I'm the same. Plenty of sexual pleasure can be had without anal | |||
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"Just watching sex education and two of the male characters go to have sec for the first time and both were going for the ‘bottom’ position. So what happens then if you got into dating or a relationship or even a sex meet, what happens if both of you wanna bottom or both wanna top? How do you work it out?" Gay sex doesn’t have to be penetrative. I know a number of gay people who just aren’t into it. There’s a lot you can do to be sexually active without fucking. | |||
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"Seriously though, I know a lot of gay couples who don't have penetrative sex at all That's really interesting. Hope this doesn't sound too close minded but I always thought some form of penetrative sex was involved between bi or gay couples. Kind of furthers the narrative that sex isn't all about penetration "The are definitely some people who must have penetrative sex. And those people are normally very clear that they need/want that. When it comes to relationships, the emotions take over the sex and so you can get sexual fulfilment with the person you love without having to penetrate. A lot of even casual gay encounters are just wanks and sucks. | |||
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"You play switch losers has to top for the rest off the night Winner gets to bottom Bascule to win you have to make the other tap out on the bottom so they can’t bottom anymore " Similar but I would opt for twister rather than switch… Or chess! I am fairly handy at chess. | |||
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