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"I think it’s not the compliment , it’s the fact that women have constantly been sexually objectified by men , we have been attacked , assaulted , murdered by men ….. I don’t personally like receiving compliments from men in the street because it makes me feel unsafe …. And they don’t even comment on my work and say that’s great - so why comment on my body ? This is not a good subject for me to Join in with lol" Here we go again...Men, the eternal serial killers and rapists, how dare you to make a compliment, I'm so delicate and you make me feel unsafe with your compliment ![]() | |||
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"I think it’s not the compliment , it’s the fact that women have constantly been sexually objectified by men , we have been attacked , assaulted , murdered by men ….. I don’t personally like receiving compliments from men in the street because it makes me feel unsafe …. And they don’t even comment on my work and say that’s great - so why comment on my body ? This is not a good subject for me to Join in with lol Here we go again...Men, the eternal serial killers and rapists, how dare you to make a compliment, I'm so delicate and you make me feel unsafe with your compliment ![]() Really?? ‘I’m so delicate’ How can you post that, you have no idea what the poster may or may have not been through | |||
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"Okay so ppl wouldnt randomly stop a woman on the street and compliment her body, but, what if you were in a bar or cafe, you overhear a woman talking about a subject that shows shes a good person, so you spontaneously compliment her personality? Whos in the wrong if she took it poorly? It might not even be her personality, what about an item of clothing that suits her, or the outfit shes wearing as a whole? Would it be wrong for a hetero man to make such a compliment to a female stranger?" Everyone is going to react differently. But I do think any compliment about someone's appearance is inappropriate unless there is a preexisting relationship | |||
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"Why do some men get so incensed about it being their right to compliment ( pass comment on) a woman and then get the hump if it isn't well received?" I don’t think men do think it’s their right. But there is definitely a fear to compliment, and that doesn’t seem right either. We think the world is very unbalanced when it comes to men and women complimenting each other. | |||
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"Sadly I think the old saying “if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing” doesn’t ring true anymore I think it’s better these days to just keep any comments, good or bad, to yourself. " If only some people would ![]() | |||
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"I think it’s not the compliment , it’s the fact that women have constantly been sexually objectified by men , we have been attacked , assaulted , murdered by men ….. I don’t personally like receiving compliments from men in the street because it makes me feel unsafe …. And they don’t even comment on my work and say that’s great - so why comment on my body ? This is not a good subject for me to Join in with lol Here we go again...Men, the eternal serial killers and rapists, how dare you to make a compliment, I'm so delicate and you make me feel unsafe with your compliment ![]() Lol..can't live em. Can't live without em. ![]() | |||
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"I think it’s not the compliment , it’s the fact that women have constantly been sexually objectified by men , we have been attacked , assaulted , murdered by men ….. I don’t personally like receiving compliments from men in the street because it makes me feel unsafe …. And they don’t even comment on my work and say that’s great - so why comment on my body ? This is not a good subject for me to Join in with lol Here we go again...Men, the eternal serial killers and rapists, how dare you to make a compliment, I'm so delicate and you make me feel unsafe with your compliment ![]() Thank you ! Funny isn’t it - a man digging a woman out and a woman coming to defend her …. Point in case eh? It really isn’t about men being eternal serial Killers , your over reaction shows how fragile and delicate you really are ! It’s about not knowing who might harm me , whose compliments are loaded by something else and whose are harmless . | |||
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"Yes they can but it then comes down to if that compliment is objectifying them or humanising them. There is a big difference between the 2. Knowing when to compliment and what to compliment on odd something that more men can learn and not feel so uneasy about paying a sincere compliment to a woman for fear of a backlash" Round of fucking applause !!!!!! | |||
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"Why do some men get so incensed about it being their right to compliment ( pass comment on) a woman and then get the hump if it isn't well received?" Because 'bitch, know your place' obvs. | |||
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"What the chuff is wrong about about giving some stranger a compliment? In the past I've asked a lass 'what's that perfume you're wearing,it's gorgeous '..I went and bought some for my then girlfriend..was I wrong to ask a stranger,? I bet she had a 'skip in her step 'when she went home. " It's one creepy way men try and get in our space. Our protective instincts are to smile and reply because we have no idea where that is leading to and highly likely to end in feeling unsafe and incredibly frightened of the outcome. | |||
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"I’ll watch the video but I don’t see why not. It depends on what the compliment is and ensuring that it’s not a faux compliment or said the expectation of anything. I compliment women on here all the time, if it’s deserved, and no one has told me to fuck off as a result " Again, it's context. This is online, it comes with the territory so no surprise element and women can just ignore or block. | |||
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". It's one creepy way men try and get in our space. Our protective instincts are to smile and reply because we have no idea where that is leading to and highly likely to end in feeling unsafe and incredibly frightened of the outcome. " This is so accurate . I was once in the gym and squatting when a guy came over and said he liked the depth of my squat …… I panicked and smiled and said thank you. He probably thought I meant it but actually I thought “smile and be nice because your at the gym on your own and it’s dark outside and where is my car parked in the car park ? “ | |||
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"Why do some men get so incensed about it being their right to compliment ( pass comment on) a woman and then get the hump if it isn't well received?" I get incensed at men telling me to "cheer up Luv" or "smile, you will look prettier". I would love to say "fuck off" but instead I smile wanly and walk quickly on. Because that's the safe thing to do. | |||
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"I think it’s not the compliment , it’s the fact that women have constantly been sexually objectified by men , we have been attacked , assaulted , murdered by men ….. I don’t personally like receiving compliments from men in the street because it makes me feel unsafe …. And they don’t even comment on my work and say that’s great - so why comment on my body ? This is not a good subject for me to Join in with lol Here we go again...Men, the eternal serial killers and rapists, how dare you to make a compliment, I'm so delicate and you make me feel unsafe with your compliment ![]() Misogyny in action. Demonise the person objecting rather than NOT perpetuate this sort of behaviour. | |||
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"Depends on the compliment. I might say ‘I like your hair’ or ‘nice tattoos’. I wouldn’t say ‘great arse’ or ‘they are decent tits’ to a strange woman. Can’t promise I wouldn’t be thinking it though. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think it’s not the compliment , it’s the fact that women have constantly been sexually objectified by men , we have been attacked , assaulted , murdered by men ….. I don’t personally like receiving compliments from men in the street because it makes me feel unsafe …. And they don’t even comment on my work and say that’s great - so why comment on my body ? This is not a good subject for me to Join in with lol Here we go again...Men, the eternal serial killers and rapists, how dare you to make a compliment, I'm so delicate and you make me feel unsafe with your compliment ![]() Spot on | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. " Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. " But you made it about her being a lady by what you said. You could have just smiled and said 'after you'. The gesture would have been appreciated all the same. | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. " I'm 61. Do you know how many men used that excuse to touch me or place themselves in a position where I had to squeeze past thereby inadvertently touching them? If I declined, I then had to face the possibility of retribution I knew I wouldn't be able to handle. I grew up knowing that men were predators because lots of you are and there's no way of knowing if you're not. In my teens, we were told to shout 'fire' if we needed help rather than anything else because nobody tended to respond to a woman being attacked otherwise. | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why do some men get so incensed about it being their right to compliment ( pass comment on) a woman and then get the hump if it isn't well received? I get incensed at men telling me to "cheer up Luv" or "smile, you will look prettier". I would love to say "fuck off" but instead I smile wanly and walk quickly on. Because that's the safe thing to do. " They're the ones who would usually look better with a fucking bag over their head. I have shared this advice on occasions. | |||
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"What if you think that a woman is wearing a lovely hat, do you just keep to yourself or text a mate saying, I saw a woman wearing a lovely hat ?" Only if you're Gok Wan. | |||
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"So, I just comlimentwd a guy on his car, a Dodge Challenger. We got talking for about 5 mins. Good conversation. No problems. ![]() ![]() What was the comlimentwd out of interest? ![]() | |||
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"I was walking through the city centre last night, it was around 7 but obviously dark. The guy was walking in the same direction. He said “wow, you are beautiful” and I said “oh, thanks” and kept walking. He didn’t say anything more and was obviously already walking in the same direction but I couldn’t wait to get to my destination and upped my pace from that moment on. Sad really but such is life." I walked through Southport station at 7 and I was far more unnerved than I would be in Liverpool! Desolate with very many 'randoms' roaming around. | |||
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"I was walking through the city centre last night, it was around 7 but obviously dark. The guy was walking in the same direction. He said “wow, you are beautiful” and I said “oh, thanks” and kept walking. He didn’t say anything more and was obviously already walking in the same direction but I couldn’t wait to get to my destination and upped my pace from that moment on. Sad really but such is life. I walked through Southport station at 7 and I was far more unnerved than I would be in Liverpool! Desolate with very many 'randoms' roaming around. " Try Luton on a sunny afternoon in August, that's the true meaning of frightened. Although I've never been to Liverpool Granny, so really, a poor comparison. | |||
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"I was brought up that complimenting people (and that includes women) was a good thing...and holding doors open etc was polite and a good thing. In truth probably more to people I already knew than randoms. But in the last year or so my daughters made me aware of some of the horrors young women (probably all women) have to navigate, on their own and in groups. And whilst we might have the best of intentions, and think we are being nice, it's not always welcomed, sometimes it's threatening and often they just want to go about their business without second guessing what a blokes motivations are. We just need to be a bit more aware of that. It's a shame but it's the way it is. " Holding a door open is threatening? No I can’t accept that | |||
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"Of course they can. I watched one of coach gregs videos where he had a rant about it of how a woman treated the guy who gave her a compliment at a gas station, she didnt like it and later did a tiktok video about it, here is gregs video about it, what do you think of giving compliments? I dont mind getting them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=doRA5wtWJfU ![]() You don't mind getting compliments. That's ace. Would you feel the same if you didn't know the intention behind the compliment? At work I'm often complimented, by both men and women. I'm told I handled situations well, or that I'm the best waitress they've ever had anywhere they've been. (I'm also told by some that I'm rude - you know, the people I won't approach or interrupt coz they're on their phone or being obnoxious) That's all cool with me, that's on my who-ness, my ability. I'm cool with kids telling me they like my hair or makeup. It's sweet, it's innocent. I've even had people tell me "you're a laugh, wanna hang out some time?" and I'm cool with that. What's not cool is being told "nice arse" or something similar, especially in a place where I'm unsure of my surroundings, don't know the person or their intentions etc. I'm not a prude but there really is a time and a place. Now, even at work with my colleagues I'd be cool with them telling me my arse looked great in a new pair of trousers for example, because I know them, because we're mates and I know it's not meant in a letchy or creepy way. | |||
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"I was brought up that complimenting people (and that includes women) was a good thing...and holding doors open etc was polite and a good thing. In truth probably more to people I already knew than randoms. But in the last year or so my daughters made me aware of some of the horrors young women (probably all women) have to navigate, on their own and in groups. And whilst we might have the best of intentions, and think we are being nice, it's not always welcomed, sometimes it's threatening and often they just want to go about their business without second guessing what a blokes motivations are. We just need to be a bit more aware of that. It's a shame but it's the way it is. Holding a door open is threatening? No I can’t accept that " It can be when they don't leave a big enough gap and to get through your body has to squish against theirs | |||
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"I was brought up that complimenting people (and that includes women) was a good thing...and holding doors open etc was polite and a good thing. In truth probably more to people I already knew than randoms. But in the last year or so my daughters made me aware of some of the horrors young women (probably all women) have to navigate, on their own and in groups. And whilst we might have the best of intentions, and think we are being nice, it's not always welcomed, sometimes it's threatening and often they just want to go about their business without second guessing what a blokes motivations are. We just need to be a bit more aware of that. It's a shame but it's the way it is. Holding a door open is threatening? No I can’t accept that " I didn't interpret it that way, it was that women and girls have to be hyper-aware. My daughter is 13 and already encountering hassle and creepy comments in broad daylight and in shops. | |||
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"So, I just comlimentwd a guy on his car, a Dodge Challenger. We got talking for about 5 mins. Good conversation. No problems. ![]() ![]() ![]() I think he was compensating for something ![]() ![]() | |||
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"So, I just comlimentwd a guy on his car, a Dodge Challenger. We got talking for about 5 mins. Good conversation. No problems. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm from Australia. We chat to anyone. | |||
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"I was brought up that complimenting people (and that includes women) was a good thing...and holding doors open etc was polite and a good thing. In truth probably more to people I already knew than randoms. But in the last year or so my daughters made me aware of some of the horrors young women (probably all women) have to navigate, on their own and in groups. And whilst we might have the best of intentions, and think we are being nice, it's not always welcomed, sometimes it's threatening and often they just want to go about their business without second guessing what a blokes motivations are. We just need to be a bit more aware of that. It's a shame but it's the way it is. " This is the most sane comment from a man on this thread. | |||
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"I was brought up that complimenting people (and that includes women) was a good thing...and holding doors open etc was polite and a good thing. In truth probably more to people I already knew than randoms. But in the last year or so my daughters made me aware of some of the horrors young women (probably all women) have to navigate, on their own and in groups. And whilst we might have the best of intentions, and think we are being nice, it's not always welcomed, sometimes it's threatening and often they just want to go about their business without second guessing what a blokes motivations are. We just need to be a bit more aware of that. It's a shame but it's the way it is. This is the most sane comment from a man on this thread." It is and it warmed my cockles that the conversations are being had and the words listened to and understood. | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() The issue is they are possbily becoming becoming the majority. Atleast they are most vocal. Look at the power Twitter holds over companies while only the minority of the UK even use it, yeah it has the power to shape our culture, just like TikTok. This is stuff they are taught and pick up through school now and into university and a few years after that will be working in your HR department | |||
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"Surely the issue to address is the spiking and stealthing, the threats and assaults and r£pes the fact they have to go to loos in groups or walk eachother to bus stops and check when they are home safely or cross the road or taken heels off or get hands wrapped around keys just in case, or they darent wear an item of clothing for fear of encouraging unwanted attention, the culture and environment that tolerates and encourages this is the real issue. Sure be nice to people, but let's not delude ourselves that there isn't an issue. If someone feels threatened they feel the way they feel, threatened and no amount of telling them they are feminist or any other name is going to help that. As someone has said already, yeah it's very sad indeed but it's also the reality for many. Sure it's being exploited too by those with agendas,... No idea what the answer is though. But here's a breathtakingly shocking statistic my daughter was told in 6th form pre uni.... A third of you will be sexually harrassed by the time you finish your course.... Don't believe it? Look at some of these... https://revoltsexualassault.com/research/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-finds Sorry to be a downer but as someone with a daughter ive had my eyes opened a bit lately. " Only a third? I'm surprised. | |||
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"Surely the issue to address is the spiking and stealthing, the threats and assaults and r£pes the fact they have to go to loos in groups or walk eachother to bus stops and check when they are home safely or cross the road or taken heels off or get hands wrapped around keys just in case, or they darent wear an item of clothing for fear of encouraging unwanted attention, the culture and environment that tolerates and encourages this is the real issue. Sure be nice to people, but let's not delude ourselves that there isn't an issue. If someone feels threatened they feel the way they feel, threatened and no amount of telling them they are feminist or any other name is going to help that. As someone has said already, yeah it's very sad indeed but it's also the reality for many. Sure it's being exploited too by those with agendas,... No idea what the answer is though. But here's a breathtakingly shocking statistic my daughter was told in 6th form pre uni.... A third of you will be sexually harrassed by the time you finish your course.... Don't believe it? Look at some of these... https://revoltsexualassault.com/research/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-finds Sorry to be a downer but as someone with a daughter ive had my eyes opened a bit lately. Only a third? I'm surprised. " The figure for the survey seems low too when you look at what they list as the criteria, you’d think it would be closer to 100% for all people asked | |||
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"Surely the issue to address is the spiking and stealthing, the threats and assaults and r£pes the fact they have to go to loos in groups or walk eachother to bus stops and check when they are home safely or cross the road or taken heels off or get hands wrapped around keys just in case, or they darent wear an item of clothing for fear of encouraging unwanted attention, the culture and environment that tolerates and encourages this is the real issue. Sure be nice to people, but let's not delude ourselves that there isn't an issue. If someone feels threatened they feel the way they feel, threatened and no amount of telling them they are feminist or any other name is going to help that. As someone has said already, yeah it's very sad indeed but it's also the reality for many. Sure it's being exploited too by those with agendas,... No idea what the answer is though. But here's a breathtakingly shocking statistic my daughter was told in 6th form pre uni.... A third of you will be sexually harrassed by the time you finish your course.... Don't believe it? Look at some of these... https://revoltsexualassault.com/research/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-finds Sorry to be a downer but as someone with a daughter ive had my eyes opened a bit lately. " Absolutely agree with all of this. I too have daughters. This is totally different to what I commented on though, the holding doors open, being a gentleman. | |||
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"Surely the issue to address is the spiking and stealthing, the threats and assaults and r£pes the fact they have to go to loos in groups or walk eachother to bus stops and check when they are home safely or cross the road or taken heels off or get hands wrapped around keys just in case, or they darent wear an item of clothing for fear of encouraging unwanted attention, the culture and environment that tolerates and encourages this is the real issue. Sure be nice to people, but let's not delude ourselves that there isn't an issue. If someone feels threatened they feel the way they feel, threatened and no amount of telling them they are feminist or any other name is going to help that. As someone has said already, yeah it's very sad indeed but it's also the reality for many. Sure it's being exploited too by those with agendas,... No idea what the answer is though. But here's a breathtakingly shocking statistic my daughter was told in 6th form pre uni.... A third of you will be sexually harrassed by the time you finish your course.... Don't believe it? Look at some of these... https://revoltsexualassault.com/research/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-finds Sorry to be a downer but as someone with a daughter ive had my eyes opened a bit lately. Only a third? I'm surprised. The figure for the survey seems low too when you look at what they list as the criteria, you’d think it would be closer to 100% for all people asked " I can’t click on the links but it depends what is classed as sexual harassment. On a recent thread a lot of the women said being told naughty jokes was sexual harassment. Someone looking at them etc. I don’t call that sexual harassment. | |||
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"Surely the issue to address is the spiking and stealthing, the threats and assaults and r£pes the fact they have to go to loos in groups or walk eachother to bus stops and check when they are home safely or cross the road or taken heels off or get hands wrapped around keys just in case, or they darent wear an item of clothing for fear of encouraging unwanted attention, the culture and environment that tolerates and encourages this is the real issue. Sure be nice to people, but let's not delude ourselves that there isn't an issue. If someone feels threatened they feel the way they feel, threatened and no amount of telling them they are feminist or any other name is going to help that. As someone has said already, yeah it's very sad indeed but it's also the reality for many. Sure it's being exploited too by those with agendas,... No idea what the answer is though. But here's a breathtakingly shocking statistic my daughter was told in 6th form pre uni.... A third of you will be sexually harrassed by the time you finish your course.... Don't believe it? Look at some of these... https://revoltsexualassault.com/research/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-finds Sorry to be a downer but as someone with a daughter ive had my eyes opened a bit lately. Only a third? I'm surprised. The figure for the survey seems low too when you look at what they list as the criteria, you’d think it would be closer to 100% for all people asked " Yeah i had quick look through the article. Nowhere did it define what they class as sexual assault There are people out there that think holding the door open for them, or being awkwardly asked out or telling dirty jokes is classed as such Also i would say there is a slight bias in asking uni students as i would guess there is a higher proportion that it could happen to due to immaturity, alcohol, drugs and being away from parents for the first time. Plus a general lack of life experience. Personally something bad happened to me at that age (21). Mainly due to a bit of immaturity and wanting to try something new. Not sure if it was sexual assault as i cant actually remember what happened for about 6 hours of the night, but im sure it technically was. | |||
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"I was walking through the city centre last night, it was around 7 but obviously dark. The guy was walking in the same direction. He said “wow, you are beautiful” and I said “oh, thanks” and kept walking. He didn’t say anything more and was obviously already walking in the same direction but I couldn’t wait to get to my destination and upped my pace from that moment on. Sad really but such is life. I walked through Southport station at 7 and I was far more unnerved than I would be in Liverpool! Desolate with very many 'randoms' roaming around. Try Luton on a sunny afternoon in August, that's the true meaning of frightened. Although I've never been to Liverpool Granny, so really, a poor comparison." I always feel safe in Liverpool. Busy main streets and stations and pubs and clubs and shoppers... anyone helps..... anyone even in the city. | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() I would appreciate anyone holding a door open for me in the same way I would hold it open for anyone else who maybe passing through the door at the same time as me. Surely that is just good manners. | |||
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"Surely the issue to address is the spiking and stealthing, the threats and assaults and r£pes the fact they have to go to loos in groups or walk eachother to bus stops and check when they are home safely or cross the road or taken heels off or get hands wrapped around keys just in case, or they darent wear an item of clothing for fear of encouraging unwanted attention, the culture and environment that tolerates and encourages this is the real issue. Sure be nice to people, but let's not delude ourselves that there isn't an issue. If someone feels threatened they feel the way they feel, threatened and no amount of telling them they are feminist or any other name is going to help that. As someone has said already, yeah it's very sad indeed but it's also the reality for many. Sure it's being exploited too by those with agendas,... No idea what the answer is though. But here's a breathtakingly shocking statistic my daughter was told in 6th form pre uni.... A third of you will be sexually harrassed by the time you finish your course.... Don't believe it? Look at some of these... https://revoltsexualassault.com/research/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-finds Sorry to be a downer but as someone with a daughter ive had my eyes opened a bit lately. Only a third? I'm surprised. The figure for the survey seems low too when you look at what they list as the criteria, you’d think it would be closer to 100% for all people asked Yeah i had quick look through the article. Nowhere did it define what they class as sexual assault There are people out there that think holding the door open for them, or being awkwardly asked out or telling dirty jokes is classed as such Also i would say there is a slight bias in asking uni students as i would guess there is a higher proportion that it could happen to due to immaturity, alcohol, drugs and being away from parents for the first time. Plus a general lack of life experience. Personally something bad happened to me at that age (21). Mainly due to a bit of immaturity and wanting to try something new. Not sure if it was sexual assault as i cant actually remember what happened for about 6 hours of the night, but im sure it technically was." Not to mention that their sample size is 1089. Not quite a big enough sample size if you ask me. I imagine if a rolled out the same survey on site I’d get 100%. Now I know that’s not the truth. Men aren’t facing sexual harassment more than women. So that would suggest the survey is skewed somehow | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() Exactly. Of course it is ![]() | |||
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"Surely the issue to address is the spiking and stealthing, the threats and assaults and r£pes the fact they have to go to loos in groups or walk eachother to bus stops and check when they are home safely or cross the road or taken heels off or get hands wrapped around keys just in case, or they darent wear an item of clothing for fear of encouraging unwanted attention, the culture and environment that tolerates and encourages this is the real issue. Sure be nice to people, but let's not delude ourselves that there isn't an issue. If someone feels threatened they feel the way they feel, threatened and no amount of telling them they are feminist or any other name is going to help that. As someone has said already, yeah it's very sad indeed but it's also the reality for many. Sure it's being exploited too by those with agendas,... No idea what the answer is though. But here's a breathtakingly shocking statistic my daughter was told in 6th form pre uni.... A third of you will be sexually harrassed by the time you finish your course.... Don't believe it? Look at some of these... https://revoltsexualassault.com/research/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-finds Sorry to be a downer but as someone with a daughter ive had my eyes opened a bit lately. Only a third? I'm surprised. The figure for the survey seems low too when you look at what they list as the criteria, you’d think it would be closer to 100% for all people asked I can’t click on the links but it depends what is classed as sexual harassment. On a recent thread a lot of the women said being told naughty jokes was sexual harassment. Someone looking at them etc. I don’t call that sexual harassment. " Yes sorry for taking us off piste a bit... But behaviours seemed to be the loose theme, and as you may have noticed... I have feelings about it. We are never too old to learn and be better. | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() But would he have done the same for a young man and made a comment on age before beauty or something similar. If it's just good manners it's good manners for all and bit just ladies first? | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() Really? So a man can’t say ladies first anymore without a woman finding it offensive? I just don’t have that same mentality I’m afraid. I can’t even argue/debate it. | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() So because you have no issue with it or have not felt threatened as several women above have explained they've been made to feel through 'innocent' interactions then there isn't an issue to be discussed? Nora has decreed it is ridiculous, end of! I see. Manners is fine but they are for everyone, not just 'ladies first' is my point. | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() I guess the question is how many things are you happy with society scrubbing out because of someone’s feelings? Would you be happy with a grey existence where no one talks to anyone? Which I know is extremely, but you’ve gotta realise that that’s kinda the road this is heading down. If I find it offensive or scary when someone asks the time, can we all agree no one can ask anyone the time now? What about if Nora feels pressured and uncomfortable if someone asks her directions? Is that outlawed now? A few people have already expressed on here that they feel it’s a little sad you can’t just give a compliment these days without it causing an issue. At some point we’ve gotta draw a line and say you are responsible for your own feelings. We can’t keep blunting social interactions to please someone. I imagine a future where everyone has to wear shades because looking at someone is now deemed a threat. But I look cool in shades so ![]() ![]() | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The world is slowly becoming Demolition Man in many ways | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I see where your trying to come from… but surely there’s also some responsibility from people to it purposely make people uncomfortable? I think that’s all people ask for, not to never be allowed to do anything again. Walking into a busy building saying ladies first, fine. Walking into a dark parking garage and man says ladies first… not okay to me. It’s all about a bit of understanding and empathy for me x | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() And I don’t see anywhere where I disagreed with that! | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() For once I agree with everything you’ve said ![]() | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() It feels as though we are all in the same ballpark but some miscommunication is getting in the way. I don't think anyone has said there is an issue with holding a door open for a woman and saying ladies first. What some women have said is that some men use that as an opportunity to get physically closer. To sidle up to women, press their bodies against them. The same goes with compliments in the street. Some men use them creepily. Some men say things to women they would never say to a man in the same situation and that's the test. Women are wary. They've reason for be wary. Most women are likely to have experienced some kind of sexual harassment or abuse in their lifetime. I have, more than once. How many other women on this site have? It's not about being offended. It's about being wary of being assaulted or harassed again. | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() As do I. And what you've said too Nora ![]() | |||
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"well I'm 74 now.. and probably come from a different generation..after reading all the comments..I can only say what a sad sad fucking world we live in when you can't say something nice to somebody without being berated for it.I opened the door for a woman a few weeks ago and said after you .."ladies before gents "...jesus christ .worst thing I could have ever said..she replied.. "I'm not a lady grandad "...what on earth has the world come to..as it happens in reality..I didn't do it because I considered her as a lady. I did it because I'm a gentleman. Ah the feminist/misandrist hybrid. No time for women like that. Feel they have something to prove. You can also find these spouting their offence and offence by proxy all over social media. You carry on being a gentleman. There’s still some of us left who like it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The OP was about compliments given by a male stranger to a woman on the street. Many women have said that they would feel uncomfortable with this and have given valid reasons why. No-one has said that they're always offended by compliments or men should never give them. I agree that taking offence over nothing at all is silly but that's not what is the subject of the thread. Women are wary of being approached by strange men in public. Compliments given by men to women are often sexual or about appearance. Are women not allowed to be wary? | |||
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"Ultimately, what us men have to remember is that there are lots of guys out there who, for whatever reason, intimidate women with their presence. The horrors that men have perpetrated on women over generations have left an indellible imprint on their psyches and cultivated a culture of fear, mistrust and aversion to unsolicited interactions. It's easy to say "what's wrong with paying a compliment?" when you have no idea of the trauma and daily grind of abuse/creepy interactions/unwanted attention women have to deal with. None of us have any idea what it's like to be on the receiving end of some men's utterly neanderthal behaviour, unless we actually LISTEN to what women tell us about their experiences and try to empathise. " ![]() | |||
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"Okay so ppl wouldnt randomly stop a woman on the street and compliment her body, but, what if you were in a bar or cafe, you overhear a woman talking about a subject that shows shes a good person, so you spontaneously compliment her personality? Whos in the wrong if she took it poorly? It might not even be her personality, what about an item of clothing that suits her, or the outfit shes wearing as a whole? Would it be wrong for a hetero man to make such a compliment to a female stranger?" Would you go up to a random bloke, eavesdrop on conversation and say “hey mate, you sound like a top bloke” or ask if he worked out because he looked hood in his new shirt? | |||
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"What the chuff is wrong about about giving some stranger a compliment? In the past I've asked a lass 'what's that perfume you're wearing,it's gorgeous '..I went and bought some for my then girlfriend..was I wrong to ask a stranger,? I bet she had a 'skip in her step 'when she went home. " You complimented the perfume and ask a question. Maybe subtle but there’s a different between asking “What perfume are you wearing, it smells nice” compared to “ you smell nice”. It is a bloody minefield! ![]() | |||
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"I think it’s not the compliment , it’s the fact that women have constantly been sexually objectified by men , we have been attacked , assaulted , murdered by men ….. I don’t personally like receiving compliments from men in the street because it makes me feel unsafe …. And they don’t even comment on my work and say that’s great - so why comment on my body ? This is not a good subject for me to Join in with lol Here we go again...Men, the eternal serial killers and rapists, how dare you to make a compliment, I'm so delicate and you make me feel unsafe with your compliment ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"What the chuff is wrong about about giving some stranger a compliment? In the past I've asked a lass 'what's that perfume you're wearing,it's gorgeous '..I went and bought some for my then girlfriend..was I wrong to ask a stranger,? I bet she had a 'skip in her You complimented the perfume and ask a question. Maybe subtle but there’s a different between asking “What perfume are you wearing, it smells nice” compared to “ you smell nice”. It is a bloody minefield! ![]() I'd hate to be a youngster now, seems you can't say 'tickety boo'to anyone without it being possibly misconstrued. | |||
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"What the chuff is wrong about about giving some stranger a compliment? In the past I've asked a lass 'what's that perfume you're wearing,it's gorgeous '..I went and bought some for my then girlfriend..was I wrong to ask a stranger,? I bet she had a 'skip in her You complimented the perfume and ask a question. Maybe subtle but there’s a different between asking “What perfume are you wearing, it smells nice” compared to “ you smell nice”. It is a bloody minefield! ![]() There's a lot more to it than that... Here's more. This is real. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/b41fb362-6615-4e9b-950e-36859358e023 | |||
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