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"Or delusions of grandeur? So off the bat this is NOT a dig at anyone on here,no beef or dirty laundry etc.. When growing up we all knew that one guy or woman who walked around like they owned the place, arrogant and usually rude not always but generally from a well off family and always had new everything. Fast forward to today and it seems that this is now a person in the majority, you see people who act like everyone else doesn't exist and they are the only thing in the universe. When did we become such a selfish self absorbed society, shallow and obsessed with possession and fake appearance? I'm gonna shuffle off in my sandels and socks into my cave,sit in my 20 year old dressing gown and watch re run's of one foot in the grave on my ancient TV. " Mods I repeat this is Not aimed at anyone on here. This is an observation of society in general, however I'm sure fabs has its share of the above but no one I have issues with. | |||
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"Materialism and individualism are our new gods." To be fair Instagram and the rise of social media have really pumped it all up to the max! | |||
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"It’s the culture of todays society has changed. Entitlement, privilege, instant gratification etc. this is where the arrogance stems from. The other aspect is the belief that extroverts are the winners and introverts aren’t so many people fake their confidence levels which in turn can become arrogance or seen that way" When it is tolerated as free expression, a persons rights, and celebrated, we are truly fucked. | |||
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"And this is why society is so fucked. Folk showing off their best angle like their life depends on it whist someone’s sleeping in a cardboard box down the road. It’s pure bollocks." Dickens said similar tbh, just now the potential audience is far greater and much further afield.. Agree with the sentiment totally.. On one upside a young lad and his friend (just heard him on five live) has raised in excess of £230 k for a good cause, largely via the use of social media.. ![]() | |||
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"Does this equate to the rise in mental health issues?" Definitely a correlation | |||
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"And this is why society is so fucked. Folk showing off their best angle like their life depends on it whist someone’s sleeping in a cardboard box down the road. It’s pure bollocks. Dickens said similar tbh, just now the potential audience is far greater and much further afield.. Agree with the sentiment totally.. On one upside a young lad and his friend (just heard him on five live) has raised in excess of £230 k for a good cause, largely via the use of social media.. ![]() Yes!! This has been going on for years and it really bugged him. Cause an effect innit? There's always a good argument too. It's in our nature to survive and to make sure we have what we need. Going deep I think thats the issue. If we don't keep up with society we will get less chance to have those things that we and our family need. Suddenly with social media we all have our own show. Our profiles are all about us and it doesn't always come as a bad thing. We feel out of control of our lives sometimes and can feel ignored too. So we get this thing where we are totally in control. Unfortunatley the bi product is the arrogance and such. I get lost in this stuff and it blows my mind. This is why I like spending time with animals. They never pretend to be anything other than what they are. | |||
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"Does this equate to the rise in mental health issues? Definitely a correlation " It has to be. That and not living a natural life. I don't mean in mud huts or anything, but we aren't meant to sit on social media or watch netflix all night after a crappy job I don't think. | |||
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"Materialism and individualism are our new gods. To be fair Instagram and the rise of social media have really pumped it all up to the max! " Yeah this. And Facebook. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The paradox here however, is that anxiety and depression also seem far more common (although I recognise some of this may be because people are just more open about it)" Not really a paradox. With more people apparently doing brilliantly / having a brilliant life, more people feel worse off by comparison. One of my in-laws was strapped financially, came to me for a 5-figure loan, then turned up at a family gathering in designer gear and spent the entire time banging on about all the new stuff she was planning on buying and holidays she was going to go on. It was all bollocks, she did none of it, but enough pretence to convince everyone she was minted. That was an eye opener for me on the world of acting / pretending. | |||
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"And this is why society is so fucked. Folk showing off their best angle like their life depends on it whist someone’s sleeping in a cardboard box down the road. It’s pure bollocks. Dickens said similar tbh, just now the potential audience is far greater and much further afield.. Agree with the sentiment totally.. On one upside a young lad and his friend (just heard him on five live) has raised in excess of £230 k for a good cause, largely via the use of social media.. ![]() When you say “we all have our own show” on social media, that’s a really good way of putting it. Unfortunately, there is no editor, checking quality, accuracy, truthfulness of output! | |||
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"Materialism and individualism are our new gods. To be fair Instagram and the rise of social media have really pumped it all up to the max! " This 1000000% | |||
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"And this is why society is so fucked. Folk showing off their best angle like their life depends on it whist someone’s sleeping in a cardboard box down the road. It’s pure bollocks." I must be doing this life thing wrong, I've never got the hang of doing others down and bullshitting myself up... | |||
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"The paradox here however, is that anxiety and depression also seem far more common (although I recognise some of this may be because people are just more open about it) Not really a paradox. With more people apparently doing brilliantly / having a brilliant life, more people feel worse off by comparison. One of my in-laws was strapped financially, came to me for a 5-figure loan, then turned up at a family gathering in designer gear and spent the entire time banging on about all the new stuff she was planning on buying and holidays she was going to go on. It was all bollocks, she did none of it, but enough pretence to convince everyone she was minted. That was an eye opener for me on the world of acting / pretending. " I described it as a paradox because it’s often the people putting themselves out there who are struggling, I know what you mean about the comparing though. How awful that somebody would feel they had to go to those lengths and that they felt that’s the kind of thing that matters ![]() | |||
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"The paradox here however, is that anxiety and depression also seem far more common (although I recognise some of this may be because people are just more open about it) Not really a paradox. With more people apparently doing brilliantly / having a brilliant life, more people feel worse off by comparison. One of my in-laws was strapped financially, came to me for a 5-figure loan, then turned up at a family gathering in designer gear and spent the entire time banging on about all the new stuff she was planning on buying and holidays she was going to go on. It was all bollocks, she did none of it, but enough pretence to convince everyone she was minted. That was an eye opener for me on the world of acting / pretending. I described it as a paradox because it’s often the people putting themselves out there who are struggling, I know what you mean about the comparing though. How awful that somebody would feel they had to go to those lengths and that they felt that’s the kind of thing that matters ![]() Agreed. I was thinking of it from the point of view of the impact that boasting has on the non-boasters, who feel like they are being left behind. But I’m probably looking at it the wrong way around ... some of the ones doing the boasting / faking are probably the ones who are suffering most mentally, having somehow allowed themselves to be swept up into this world of pretence. It was an interesting experience for me with the in-law though, listening to someone going on as if they were completely minted when I was funding their day that day expenses as they were broke. A lot of talk about “I’m getting one of those”, “I’ve booked a trip to ...”, which was all complete fiction. Complete lack of honesty, maturity, humility, realism. All about the image. | |||
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"I think we've been leading up to this point for centuries. During medieval times and probably before that being a servant was something to be proud of. You wore the livery of your household and were looked after in return. You lived, ate and frequently slept in the same space as the family you worked for. Slowly over the centuries this balance changed and the individual became more important than the community. Obviously that's grossly simplified but here we are with lots of people looking after number one. I think though that there are huge numbers of people who still look out for society as a whole." In medieval times, work days were a lot shorter, and with a plethora of church holidays, labourers / peasants / serfs had 1/3rd to 1/2 of the year free. Basically, enough work was done to fil normal / basic needs. | |||
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"Another thing to think about, we used to have this thing called "Community" where people knew their neighbours, the people in their area. People looked out for each other. Nowadays it's more common to know nobody on your street on a personal level, a compassionate level, or any level other ways they piss you off." No joke I’m in a WhatsApp group with my neighbours. There’s 32 houses in my culdesac and we’re all in the group. Lots of messages, has anyone got a tea bag? I remember being over my friends house and thought I’d left candles going in my sitting room. Sent a message on the group and someone went over to look through my living room window to check. (I hadn’t). | |||
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"Interesting to see the general age of folk posting. The age old ‘the young folk are just wrong’. I’m sure people thought the same of you when you were young and ever it will be " It’s not an age thing there are plenty wankers like this my age. | |||
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"Add to that lack of consequence and discipline, often from an early age. " Very early age. "We don't like to give our children boundaries". That's literally your job. Eyefuckingroll* | |||
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"Another thing to think about, we used to have this thing called "Community" where people knew their neighbours, the people in their area. People looked out for each other. Nowadays it's more common to know nobody on your street on a personal level, a compassionate level, or any level other ways they piss you off. No joke I’m in a WhatsApp group with my neighbours. There’s 32 houses in my culdesac and we’re all in the group. Lots of messages, has anyone got a tea bag? I remember being over my friends house and thought I’d left candles going in my sitting room. Sent a message on the group and someone went over to look through my living room window to check. (I hadn’t). " That's awesome! In my street they'll accept an amazon delivery on your behalf and deny all knowledge | |||
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"Interesting to see the general age of folk posting. The age old ‘the young folk are just wrong’. I’m sure people thought the same of you when you were young and ever it will be It’s not an age thing there are plenty wankers like this my age. " The previous generation always thinks the next is a waste of space, selfish and only interested in themselves. If there are wankers your age they aren’t being discussed here for some reason | |||
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"Add to that lack of consequence and discipline, often from an early age. Very early age. "We don't like to give our children boundaries". That's literally your job. Eyefuckingroll*" Or in my case, strict discipline but not actually knowing what it was I did wrong to earn it. Got all the "no" but never knew the why so internalised everything. | |||
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"Interesting to see the general age of folk posting. The age old ‘the young folk are just wrong’. I’m sure people thought the same of you when you were young and ever it will be It’s not an age thing there are plenty wankers like this my age. The previous generation always thinks the next is a waste of space, selfish and only interested in themselves. If there are wankers your age they aren’t being discussed here for some reason " I don't think that's the case for all at all. It's a challenge that faces every generation as times change. There are certainly those who think the way you say, but also many others who try to understand the changes and the struggles that come with that change for the younger generations. Communication is key | |||
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"Another thing to think about, we used to have this thing called "Community" where people knew their neighbours, the people in their area. People looked out for each other. Nowadays it's more common to know nobody on your street on a personal level, a compassionate level, or any level other ways they piss you off. No joke I’m in a WhatsApp group with my neighbours. There’s 32 houses in my culdesac and we’re all in the group. Lots of messages, has anyone got a tea bag? I remember being over my friends house and thought I’d left candles going in my sitting room. Sent a message on the group and someone went over to look through my living room window to check. (I hadn’t). That's awesome! In my street they'll accept an amazon delivery on your behalf and deny all knowledge " Cunts! In my street they know I work in Amazon and think I can buy things directly off the shelf and bring them home ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Another thing to think about, we used to have this thing called "Community" where people knew their neighbours, the people in their area. People looked out for each other. Nowadays it's more common to know nobody on your street on a personal level, a compassionate level, or any level other ways they piss you off. No joke I’m in a WhatsApp group with my neighbours. There’s 32 houses in my culdesac and we’re all in the group. Lots of messages, has anyone got a tea bag? I remember being over my friends house and thought I’d left candles going in my sitting room. Sent a message on the group and someone went over to look through my living room window to check. (I hadn’t). That's awesome! In my street they'll accept an amazon delivery on your behalf and deny all knowledge Cunts! In my street they know I work in Amazon and think I can buy things directly off the shelf and bring them home ![]() ![]() Noted lol | |||
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"Another thing to think about, we used to have this thing called "Community" where people knew their neighbours, the people in their area. People looked out for each other. Nowadays it's more common to know nobody on your street on a personal level, a compassionate level, or any level other ways they piss you off. No joke I’m in a WhatsApp group with my neighbours. There’s 32 houses in my culdesac and we’re all in the group. Lots of messages, has anyone got a tea bag? I remember being over my friends house and thought I’d left candles going in my sitting room. Sent a message on the group and someone went over to look through my living room window to check. (I hadn’t). That's awesome! In my street they'll accept an amazon delivery on your behalf and deny all knowledge Cunts! In my street they know I work in Amazon and think I can buy things directly off the shelf and bring them home ![]() ![]() I never received the blowjob you promised me!!! Can you redeliver?? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Another thing to think about, we used to have this thing called "Community" where people knew their neighbours, the people in their area. People looked out for each other. Nowadays it's more common to know nobody on your street on a personal level, a compassionate level, or any level other ways they piss you off." “Community” still survives in some places. Where I live there is a WhatsApp group where people chat, ask for help, help one another etc. Normal stuff that you would have in a normal community. | |||
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"Add to that lack of consequence and discipline, often from an early age. Very early age. "We don't like to give our children boundaries". That's literally your job. Eyefuckingroll*" “We don’t say no”, I was told as I instructed a young kid of some in-laws to get away from an open hot cooker. Sure enough, the kid is now 11 and doesn’t know the meaning of the word no, just gives a cocky smirk if anyone tries telling him anything, knowing he can do whatever the fuck he likes. | |||
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"We live in a materialistic world. Even the good looking bird or bloke on your arm is an essential fashion accessory to have these days. " I'm waiting for retro to come back in!.. | |||
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"Or delusions of grandeur? So off the bat this is NOT a dig at anyone on here,no beef or dirty laundry etc.. When growing up we all knew that one guy or woman who walked around like they owned the place, arrogant and usually rude not always but generally from a well off family and always had new everything. Fast forward to today and it seems that this is now a person in the majority, you see people who act like everyone else doesn't exist and they are the only thing in the universe. When did we become such a selfish self absorbed society, shallow and obsessed with possession and fake appearance? I'm gonna shuffle off in my sandels and socks into my cave,sit in my 20 year old dressing gown and watch re run's of one foot in the grave on my ancient TV. " Social media. It’s now all about who can shout the loudest and have the best life highlight reel by cherry picking only the good bits and appearing to be untouchably wonderful. And believing it themselves. | |||
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"Interesting to see the general age of folk posting. The age old ‘the young folk are just wrong’. I’m sure people thought the same of you when you were young and ever it will be It’s not an age thing there are plenty wankers like this my age. The previous generation always thinks the next is a waste of space, selfish and only interested in themselves. If there are wankers your age they aren’t being discussed here for some reason " Reading the thread, most posts I am seeing don’t mention age, just social media impact etc. I have made a few references to an arsehole in law: she is in her 50’s, not next generation. A s the worst couple I know for being obsessed with their online likes are in their 60’s | |||
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"Through my dealings with very elderly people I've found that a lot of very old people become gradually more selfish, less tolerant and more entitled. Whether this is a result of finally feeling that they no longer have to conform or old age I don't know." Partially survival instinct too. Declining health, declining spending power, declining energy ... they get a bit more “careful” and protective of themselves. | |||
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"Comparison is the thief of joy. If you're insecure in who you are then you are constantly needing validation. Social media has exacerbated the issue because it's become an instant source of validation but also ramps up a competitive element (Oh, lovely holiday in the Dominican. Like, like, like. Now here's one of the Kardashians renting a private island for their holiday. But I'm sure yours was charming too). You aren't even comparing yourself to your peers any more, you're comparing yourself to literal bloody billionaires. I don't know where it will end, but I do find it dysfunctional. I find it incredibly depressing that so many people base their self worth on how many likes or views or shares or whatever they are getting online, which requires them to keep up a certain image." Have found a great meme recently explaining it in one word.. a sketch of a selfie stick signed: Narcissistick.. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Through my dealings with very elderly people I've found that a lot of very old people become gradually more selfish, less tolerant and more entitled. Whether this is a result of finally feeling that they no longer have to conform or old age I don't know. Partially survival instinct too. Declining health, declining spending power, declining energy ... they get a bit more “careful” and protective of themselves. " Possibly but I don't think that gives them an automatic right to go in fron of me on the bus queue or be breathtakingly rude | |||
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" Have found a great meme recently explaining it in one word.. a sketch of a selfie stick signed: Narcissistick.. ![]() ![]() Oh my word, that is a bit much! Don't get me wrong, I know nobody likes to feel ignored and that they don't matter. I don't tend to go into the "who would you do" type of threads - I'd like to claim the moral high ground and say it's because I don't like the competitive element of them but actually it's just because I'm never in them and never have any strong enough opinions on who has the best *whatever* on here, so they feel irrelevant to me. I don't get how the validation of a hollow image by strangers online can be something worth the effort of getting, but clearly it does work for a lot of people. I'm glad I don't get it in a way, or I'd end up hoying myself out the window every other day because nobody is hanging off my every word or saying I have the best taint on fab! ![]() | |||
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" Have found a great meme recently explaining it in one word.. a sketch of a selfie stick signed: Narcissistick.. ![]() ![]() ![]() Distance is good. And healthy. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Through my dealings with very elderly people I've found that a lot of very old people become gradually more selfish, less tolerant and more entitled. Whether this is a result of finally feeling that they no longer have to conform or old age I don't know. Partially survival instinct too. Declining health, declining spending power, declining energy ... they get a bit more “careful” and protective of themselves. Possibly but I don't think that gives them an automatic right to go in fron of me on the bus queue or be breathtakingly rude " Of course not. Nobody ever has the right to be rude . | |||
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"Or delusions of grandeur? So off the bat this is NOT a dig at anyone on here,no beef or dirty laundry etc.. When growing up we all knew that one guy or woman who walked around like they owned the place, arrogant and usually rude not always but generally from a well off family and always had new everything. Fast forward to today and it seems that this is now a person in the majority, you see people who act like everyone else doesn't exist and they are the only thing in the universe. When did we become such a selfish self absorbed society, shallow and obsessed with possession and fake appearance? I'm gonna shuffle off in my sandels and socks into my cave,sit in my 20 year old dressing gown and watch re run's of one foot in the grave on my ancient TV. " I blame their parents. | |||
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"Through my dealings with very elderly people I've found that a lot of very old people become gradually more selfish, less tolerant and more entitled. Whether this is a result of finally feeling that they no longer have to conform or old age I don't know. Partially survival instinct too. Declining health, declining spending power, declining energy ... they get a bit more “careful” and protective of themselves. Possibly but I don't think that gives them an automatic right to go in fron of me on the bus queue or be breathtakingly rude " And then they complain about other people pushing in and being rude. | |||
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"Add to that lack of consequence and discipline, often from an early age. Very early age. "We don't like to give our children boundaries". That's literally your job. Eyefuckingroll* “We don’t say no”, I was told as I instructed a young kid of some in-laws to get away from an open hot cooker. Sure enough, the kid is now 11 and doesn’t know the meaning of the word no, just gives a cocky smirk if anyone tries telling him anything, knowing he can do whatever the fuck he likes. " Crikey I hate those types. Letting their kids run all over shops and restaurants and causing havoc. | |||
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