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By *inkerbell67 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Having diabetes can be a pain especially at night ,i spend every 2 hours on the loo peeing ,i wake up very thirsty and dehydrated...any one else have this problem..

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Type 1 or type 2?

Wjat is your diabetic control like? I'm type 2 and never had that issue even when my sugars are high.

Have you spoken to your Dr or diabetic nurse about it?

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Yes my mum does. She also gets really bad leg cramps that disturb her sleep.

This is irrespective of what her blood sugars are.

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

If you are experiencing the symptoms as you say, this would suggest that your blood sugar levels are too high. The reason you are thirsty and going to the loo is the bodies way of trying to get rid of the excess sugar in your system.

My advice would be to test your blood sugar levels, and also speak with your nurse / doctor.

If you are continuing to consume complex and simple carbs routinely, this will push up your blood sugar levels all the time.

R xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only ever have those symptoms when I’m out of control ops book an appointment with your doctor/nurse in my opinion.

Best of luck.

T

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By *ancer36Woman
over a year ago

Stirling

I’m type one, only ever experience this if my levels are high, thirst and frequent urination are signs of this have you checked your keytones? Xx

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By *ulldog_71Man
over a year ago

Sedgefield

I agree with everyone else, it sounds like you are hyper how is your diabetes controlled? You need to talk to your health care team ASAP if you have these symptoms all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep, diabetes sucks!

My son has had type 1 since he was 4 and its hard especially now he is a know it all teenager

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with all of the above. Though I don't suffer I was married for 26 years to a type 1 diabetic and git to understand the symptoms well. My late wife only had those kind of issues when her sugar levels were right up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having diabetes can be a pain especially at night ,i spend every 2 hours on the loo peeing ,i wake up very thirsty and dehydrated...any one else have this problem.."

Your sugar levels are too high. Talk to your diabetic nurse x

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By *hunderace...Man
over a year ago

Dudley

I've been a type 1 diabetic for 33 years now and understand the drama that this can create on a daily basis, its easy to close your eyes and ignore it as most of the effects are accumulative (eyes and kidneys etc) and therefore could take years.

Everyone above is right about your sugar levels, they sound off the chart tbh and need your immediate attention.

A blood sugar test only takes seconds and although we hate doing them it could save your life...

Associated conditions like eyesight degeneration may take years but when we experience high sugar levels it can very easily turn into Diabetic Acid Ketoacidosis (DKA) and this will only take hours to go from where your at now to a life threatening state.

My 27yr old son was also a type 1 diabetic for 12 years but sadly also suffered from depression, he took his own life by ceasing to inject himself which of course made his sugar levels rocket and died from heart failure due to DKA last year.

Although that was his intention it can easily happen when high levels are present as I've had it twice myself.

Do a test and adjust your insulin, and then seek medical advice soon.

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By *hunderace...Man
over a year ago

Dudley

Please feel free to message me if you want a chat about it, having a good collective whinge might make it seem not so bad which of course it isn't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you on tablets or insulin?

Are you on once a day or more, and is the dose static or variable?

If you are on insulin, also check if it's quick acting insulin like humulin? If so you might need a review to slow release like Lantus. Because maybe the insulin is wearing odd before you go to bed and the high bgl is causing the osmotic diuresis (bodys natural way of getting rid of excess sugar) Either way, a DB review may bed needed.

Always good to check your bgl before bed. Any questions feel free to message me, as I've worked with many DB nurse specialists. Stay well x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

husband is type 1 diabetic ... the journey has been a nightmare made worse by the different opinions of those looking after his health the difference for drs surgery to hospital care is shocking then the difference between consultants and diabetics nurse's is also crazy he spent many years following thier different advice only to be worse..

then a nurse told him about diabetic uk web site and its users forums those forums saved his life thing like real diet advice and health advice how to eat well and have low sugars and lots of other info..

dont ignore diabetes as it wont tell you until its too late what damage it has done...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Echo everyone else.

Get checked out asap sounds like your diabetes is poorly controlled.

It's a complete pain especially coming up to the festive season when everyone is gorging themselves and you have to be super careful.

But it's just self control and education.

Good luck OP don't leave it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been a type 1 diabetic for 33 years now and understand the drama that this can create on a daily basis, its easy to close your eyes and ignore it as most of the effects are accumulative (eyes and kidneys etc) and therefore could take years.

Everyone above is right about your sugar levels, they sound off the chart tbh and need your immediate attention.

A blood sugar test only takes seconds and although we hate doing them it could save your life...

Associated conditions like eyesight degeneration may take years but when we experience high sugar levels it can very easily turn into Diabetic Acid Ketoacidosis (DKA) and this will only take hours to go from where your at now to a life threatening state.

My 27yr old son was also a type 1 diabetic for 12 years but sadly also suffered from depression, he took his own life by ceasing to inject himself which of course made his sugar levels rocket and died from heart failure due to DKA last year.

Although that was his intention it can easily happen when high levels are present as I've had it twice myself.

Do a test and adjust your insulin, and then seek medical advice soon.

"

That's a really sad story I'm sorry for your loss.

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside


"Please feel free to message me if you want a chat about it, having a good collective whinge might make it seem not so bad which of course it isn't "

That's a lovely thing to offer.

Well done you.

Agree with all your comments.

Take care of yourself and my condolences for your sad loss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are you on tablets or insulin?

Are you on once a day or more, and is the dose static or variable?

If you are on insulin, also check if it's quick acting insulin like humulin? If so you might need a review to slow release like Lantus. Because maybe the insulin is wearing odd before you go to bed and the high bgl is causing the osmotic diuresis (bodys natural way of getting rid of excess sugar) Either way, a DB review may bed needed.

Always good to check your bgl before bed. Any questions feel free to message me, as I've worked with many DB nurse specialists. Stay well x "

im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are you on tablets or insulin?

Are you on once a day or more, and is the dose static or variable?

If you are on insulin, also check if it's quick acting insulin like humulin? If so you might need a review to slow release like Lantus. Because maybe the insulin is wearing odd before you go to bed and the high bgl is causing the osmotic diuresis (bodys natural way of getting rid of excess sugar) Either way, a DB review may bed needed.

Always good to check your bgl before bed. Any questions feel free to message me, as I've worked with many DB nurse specialists. Stay well x "

Literally what I was going to say.

Great minds think alike.

Sounds like the classic hyper symptoms so either way a review is needed. Could be simple dietary or routine changes or as has been said an adjustment of insulin/meds. Speak to your specialist nurse or practice nurse. Keep a record of when these symtoms happen and a diary of what you’ve eaten and your BM readings.

Hope you get some relief OP. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person"

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m by no means giving advise, but I’ve found drinking water regularly in addition freshly made Karela juice has helped me. Karela is a bitter melon fruit and has lots of health benefits. Is rich in antioxidants, Zinc, vitamins A and C, etc. Admit, doesn’t taste great and maybe why it’s got name: Bitter Melon!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nutritional Value of Bitter Gourd.

According to the USDA, 100 grams of bitter gourd has about 34 calories with 13 milligram sodium, 602 grams potassium, 7 grams total carbohydrate and 3.6 grams protein.

Know the following benefits of bitter gourd juice.

Here are some karela juice benefits that you need to look out for:

1. Helps in maintaining blood sugar levels

The World Health Organisation has estimated that over 382 million people worldwide suffer from diabetes. Bitter gourd contains an insulin-like compound called Polypeptide-p or p-insulin which has been shown to control diabetes naturally.

According to a 2011 study, published in the sJournal Ethnopharmacolgy, a four-week clinical trial showed that 2,000 mg of bitter melon when taken on regular basis reduced the blood glucose level significantly in the patients suffering from type-2 diabetes.

Studies have shown that this plant-based insulin in bitter gourd helps patients with type-1 diabetes as well.

Another report issued in the Journal of Chemistry & Biology, gave evidence regarding the fact that bitter melon increases the uptake of glucose and improves glycemic control.

People suffering from diabetes taking hypoglycaemic drugs may even be required to alter the dosage of their drugs if they consume bitter melon juice daily and consult a doctor before doing so..."

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By *hunderace...Man
over a year ago

Dudley


"Please feel free to message me if you want a chat about it, having a good collective whinge might make it seem not so bad which of course it isn't

That's a lovely thing to offer.

Well done you.

Agree with all your comments.

Take care of yourself and my condolences for your sad loss."

When I became diabetic to me it was the end of the world, to many it may appear to be a simple lifestyle change but it took me out of my Army career and tied me to a lifetime of injections, medical appointments that 30+ years later still gets me down, I'm sure others on here agree.

Doesn't matter what our personal dramas are? If we talk to others in the same boat and can laugh with understanding we can diminish our demons and things won't seem as bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

diabetes is always something that plays with your head and does not help when it / insulin takes your ability for a full on erection away.

Nerve issues are no joke

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By *nimaginativeUsernameMan
over a year ago

Rochester, Kent

Some very thoughtful, kind comments on this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please feel free to message me if you want a chat about it, having a good collective whinge might make it seem not so bad which of course it isn't

That's a lovely thing to offer.

Well done you.

Agree with all your comments.

Take care of yourself and my condolences for your sad loss.

When I became diabetic to me it was the end of the world, to many it may appear to be a simple lifestyle change but it took me out of my Army career and tied me to a lifetime of injections, medical appointments that 30+ years later still gets me down, I'm sure others on here agree.

Doesn't matter what our personal dramas are? If we talk to others in the same boat and can laugh with understanding we can diminish our demons and things won't seem as bad "

Your posts got me through some bad times last year. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please. "

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ..."

He’s a qualified nurse do you really think he’d put his registration at risk and give out unsolicited advice ? He didn’t actually give any medical advice out at all he didn’t make any recommendations or suggest changes so nothing to be moaning about. He suggested an insulin change may be required based on his extensive knowledge as a nurse but that the OP should speak to their own practitioner, that’s the safety net right there. Time to climb down of the high horse. We appreciate you have lived through experience but a 3 year medical degree plus years of vast experience in the community outweighs this. At the end of the day he was offering a kind word to a concerned person which doesn’t go above and beyond his role.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ...

He’s a qualified nurse do you really think he’d put his registration at risk and give out unsolicited advice ? He didn’t actually give any medical advice out at all he didn’t make any recommendations or suggest changes so nothing to be moaning about. He suggested an insulin change may be required based on his extensive knowledge as a nurse but that the OP should speak to their own practitioner, that’s the safety net right there. Time to climb down of the high horse. We appreciate you have lived through experience but a 3 year medical degree plus years of vast experience in the community outweighs this. At the end of the day he was offering a kind word to a concerned person which doesn’t go above and beyond his role. "

and im a qualified ?? yes see you just jump to assume dont you ? he'll be aware that giving advise out in non professtional circumstance's is not a good trait and that that im on no high house's just giving my opinion after all its a open forum people disagree or agree fine ..ill stand by what i say as its my opinion ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

house ?? lol horse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ...

He’s a qualified nurse do you really think he’d put his registration at risk and give out unsolicited advice ? He didn’t actually give any medical advice out at all he didn’t make any recommendations or suggest changes so nothing to be moaning about. He suggested an insulin change may be required based on his extensive knowledge as a nurse but that the OP should speak to their own practitioner, that’s the safety net right there. Time to climb down of the high horse. We appreciate you have lived through experience but a 3 year medical degree plus years of vast experience in the community outweighs this. At the end of the day he was offering a kind word to a concerned person which doesn’t go above and beyond his role. "

Thanks for the support Sparkles, I'm not even going to humour her anymore, now that she's calling me a liar and attacking me as a person. I guess once we've made our minds up about something, no amount of rational and evidence based thought thought will change them. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ...

He’s a qualified nurse do you really think he’d put his registration at risk and give out unsolicited advice ? He didn’t actually give any medical advice out at all he didn’t make any recommendations or suggest changes so nothing to be moaning about. He suggested an insulin change may be required based on his extensive knowledge as a nurse but that the OP should speak to their own practitioner, that’s the safety net right there. Time to climb down of the high horse. We appreciate you have lived through experience but a 3 year medical degree plus years of vast experience in the community outweighs this. At the end of the day he was offering a kind word to a concerned person which doesn’t go above and beyond his role.

Thanks for the support Sparkles, I'm not even going to humour her anymore, now that she's calling me a liar and attacking me as a person. I guess once we've made our minds up about something, no amount of rational and evidence based thought thought will change them. x "

see im not calling you a liar ?? all i said was how do we know ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ...

He’s a qualified nurse do you really think he’d put his registration at risk and give out unsolicited advice ? He didn’t actually give any medical advice out at all he didn’t make any recommendations or suggest changes so nothing to be moaning about. He suggested an insulin change may be required based on his extensive knowledge as a nurse but that the OP should speak to their own practitioner, that’s the safety net right there. Time to climb down of the high horse. We appreciate you have lived through experience but a 3 year medical degree plus years of vast experience in the community outweighs this. At the end of the day he was offering a kind word to a concerned person which doesn’t go above and beyond his role.

Thanks for the support Sparkles, I'm not even going to humour her anymore, now that she's calling me a liar and attacking me as a person. I guess once we've made our minds up about something, no amount of rational and evidence based thought thought will change them. x

see im not calling you a liar ?? all i said was how do we know ??"

I'm done with this conversation, as it's become toxic. All the best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

another words you dont like someone disagreeing with you ? thats fine like i said its only my opinion on a open forum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These threads can help and indeed sometimes hinder but from a personal point of view these type of threads have helped me a hell of a lot as have the personal messages long the way.

I’ve been where the op is now many many times in my early diabetic days over 20 years ago now and I’m happy with my blood sugar levels for the first time in over 25 years which thanks to my specialist who has dingle handed stop me from being an arsehole with my head up my arse thinking I knew what I was doing with my body.!!

I didn’t obviously and now I’m fucked but that’s totally my fault and mine alone.

In the last year I’ve gone on a insulin pump as my delivery system and I love it and also use a captor and pod for my glucose readings and live that also.

But a month again my specialist put me on a weekly injection called Trulicity which helps the insulin and this morning the nurse popped round to give me a blood test and I’m hoping my results are the best yet.

We are all different and what works for my fat arse may not work for yours but please take the utmost care of your health and listen to those that are trained in this voodoo!!!!

Best of luck op

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ha ha “dingle handed”

What a plum!!!!

*single*

T

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ...

He’s a qualified nurse do you really think he’d put his registration at risk and give out unsolicited advice ? He didn’t actually give any medical advice out at all he didn’t make any recommendations or suggest changes so nothing to be moaning about. He suggested an insulin change may be required based on his extensive knowledge as a nurse but that the OP should speak to their own practitioner, that’s the safety net right there. Time to climb down of the high horse. We appreciate you have lived through experience but a 3 year medical degree plus years of vast experience in the community outweighs this. At the end of the day he was offering a kind word to a concerned person which doesn’t go above and beyond his role.

Thanks for the support Sparkles, I'm not even going to humour her anymore, now that she's calling me a liar and attacking me as a person. I guess once we've made our minds up about something, no amount of rational and evidence based thought thought will change them. x

see im not calling you a liar ?? all i said was how do we know ??"

I’ve known this guy for probably 6 months now ?? We’ve met a few times. He’s definitely not a liar. I can confirm he is a qualified nurse not that he needs to prove himself to anyone but he’s genuine and he was only expressing concern for a person who had displayed symptoms of a potentially serious health issue. Duty of care?? Also duty of candour. Which we are well aware of post mid staffs.

This has hijacked the poor OPs original post and has become a slanging match. The fact is you’re entitled to your opinion but the evidence shows that Patrick was in fact correct in his advice in this case and let’s just hope the OP does get herself sorted out. End of story.

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over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ...

He’s a qualified nurse do you really think he’d put his registration at risk and give out unsolicited advice ? He didn’t actually give any medical advice out at all he didn’t make any recommendations or suggest changes so nothing to be moaning about. He suggested an insulin change may be required based on his extensive knowledge as a nurse but that the OP should speak to their own practitioner, that’s the safety net right there. Time to climb down of the high horse. We appreciate you have lived through experience but a 3 year medical degree plus years of vast experience in the community outweighs this. At the end of the day he was offering a kind word to a concerned person which doesn’t go above and beyond his role.

Thanks for the support Sparkles, I'm not even going to humour her anymore, now that she's calling me a liar and attacking me as a person. I guess once we've made our minds up about something, no amount of rational and evidence based thought thought will change them. x

see im not calling you a liar ?? all i said was how do we know ??

I’ve known this guy for probably 6 months now ?? We’ve met a few times. He’s definitely not a liar. I can confirm he is a qualified nurse not that he needs to prove himself to anyone but he’s genuine and he was only expressing concern for a person who had displayed symptoms of a potentially serious health issue. Duty of care?? Also duty of candour. Which we are well aware of post mid staffs.

This has hijacked the poor OPs original post and has become a slanging match. The fact is you’re entitled to your opinion but the evidence shows that Patrick was in fact correct in his advice in this case and let’s just hope the OP does get herself sorted out. End of story. "

ok one last time please anyone go above and see where i called him a lier or attacked him personally ?? nope all i did was give my opinion and said anyone can claim to be anything on a forum ie no one knows him (apart from those that do) .... on a open forum then was told hes a nurse with the assumtion that im not qualified ?? not that i would tell a forum anyway but in no way dis i personally attack him or call him a liar ...someone else put that thought there not me .... but your right its kinda took the op message of track though that was not the intention ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im sorry but you should not be offering medical advice to anyone ... these things are far too personal to people ..

what your saying above is right but also wrong alot of diabetics take both my hubs is on long acting morning and bed time with 4 jabs short acting daily 6 jabs a day .... everyone is different you can not possabilly know how to help without knowing then in person

Because this site is so personal?

Who are you to tell me what to say? I'm talking to the OP and she can heed my comments if she wants to. As a former DB specialist, I have saved more diabetic patients from hypos and potential DKAs then I can count on two hands, so I'm very much qualified to talk about this. what I've said is a general baseline which could help as nocturnal diuresis is no joke and usually indicative of hypers. I even said that she would need a DB review, so nothing I have suggested is inaccurate. Yes we are all different, well done on the obvious, but I haven't told her to change her regime for heaven's sake, so just relax please.

you can say what you like nobody knows if you are what you say you are ... advice on the internet about these types of things are dangerous .. i deal with ill people day in and out but im not going to give advice when i have no clue who or what that person is/has diabetic people range from simple to extreme complex ...i just think giving advice on the interet on a swinging site where all claim to be experts is not good ...i just had my say ... not to offend take that as you please ...

He’s a qualified nurse do you really think he’d put his registration at risk and give out unsolicited advice ? He didn’t actually give any medical advice out at all he didn’t make any recommendations or suggest changes so nothing to be moaning about. He suggested an insulin change may be required based on his extensive knowledge as a nurse but that the OP should speak to their own practitioner, that’s the safety net right there. Time to climb down of the high horse. We appreciate you have lived through experience but a 3 year medical degree plus years of vast experience in the community outweighs this. At the end of the day he was offering a kind word to a concerned person which doesn’t go above and beyond his role.

Thanks for the support Sparkles, I'm not even going to humour her anymore, now that she's calling me a liar and attacking me as a person. I guess once we've made our minds up about something, no amount of rational and evidence based thought thought will change them. x

see im not calling you a liar ?? all i said was how do we know ??

I’ve known this guy for probably 6 months now ?? We’ve met a few times. He’s definitely not a liar. I can confirm he is a qualified nurse not that he needs to prove himself to anyone but he’s genuine and he was only expressing concern for a person who had displayed symptoms of a potentially serious health issue. Duty of care?? Also duty of candour. Which we are well aware of post mid staffs.

This has hijacked the poor OPs original post and has become a slanging match. The fact is you’re entitled to your opinion but the evidence shows that Patrick was in fact correct in his advice in this case and let’s just hope the OP does get herself sorted out. End of story.

ok one last time please anyone go above and see where i called him a lier or attacked him personally ?? nope all i did was give my opinion and said anyone can claim to be anything on a forum ie no one knows him (apart from those that do) .... on a open forum then was told hes a nurse with the assumtion that im not qualified ?? not that i would tell a forum anyway but in no way dis i personally attack him or call him a liar ...someone else put that thought there not me .... but your right its kinda took the op message of track though that was not the intention ..."

Ok now you really need to stop.

Firstly, there was no need to reply to my first message at all. You instigated this conflict. Secondly, where was this 'advice' I gave OP? I simply reiterated what others had already stated, that she may need a review of insulin. That's it. That's not advice. Advice would be to tell her to change something which I did not. I then offered her support of any questions she may have. You instigated this conflict by constantly dissagreeing and exacerbating the situation. For the love of everything positive, I was helping in my professional capacity and knowledge can give.

If you have any respect and dignity for OP and others, you won't reply again, and let this thread get back on track. Thank you and Take Care.

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over a year ago

?? so i have to shut up because you say so ? and because i disagree ?? not sure thats how chatting in a forum works but if you say so ill say no more other than it was my opinian as was yours .....

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By *ollybirdWoman
over a year ago

east Cork


"Yes my mum does. She also gets really bad leg cramps that disturb her sleep.

This is irrespective of what her blood sugars are."

Ask gp for difene spray for her legs. Works wonders on restless leg syndrome

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By *hunderace...Man
over a year ago

Dudley


"Ha ha “dingle handed”

What a plum!!!!

*single*

T"

Love you brother

In reference to the arguments that have surrounded this though I'll say this...

From the get go I haven't read completely whats been said above but heres the thing, there is no singular treatment for us, what regime works for one might not for another. Some like me take Lantus once a day as the base insulin then NovoRapid as and when it spikes at meal times, others take Lantus at 12hr intervals and thats for a diabetic consultant to change or decide. There are many myths surrounding this condition, I've seen cancer specialist and even vascular surgeons who've wanted to take my leg 3 times who had absolutely no idea regarding diabetes and its control even.

One thing is for sure and that by the very nature of the OP's opening post its quite apparent to those of us who know that she's not much experience in this, help is what she needs and any advice more than telling her to check her blood sugars regularly and perhaps adjust her Novorapid slightly after contacting her GP ASAP for advice is not only dangerous but counterproductive to the confidence she needs to master our condition.

Let's show how we can support her not argue aye..?

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

My bit.

Take the support and not the medical advice.

Go to your diabetic clinic and speak to your consultant.

I'm sure people mean well but I wouldn't take any medical advice from anyone on a swingers site or any other internet site.

My daughter is Type 1 and has excellent support from hospital team, GP and employer.

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By *hunderace...Man
over a year ago

Dudley


"My bit.

Take the support and not the medical advice.

Go to your diabetic clinic and speak to your consultant.

I'm sure people mean well but I wouldn't take any medical advice from anyone on a swingers site or any other internet site.

My daughter is Type 1 and has excellent support from hospital team, GP and employer.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

I have just started trulicity blood's are steadily dropping.

Although the constant nausea is off putting.

Out of interest anyone tried Jamun fruit?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

No updates from the OP hope she's ok?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have just started trulicity blood's are steadily dropping.

Although the constant nausea is off putting.

Out of interest anyone tried Jamun fruit?"

I hear what you say about feeling sick and boy was it a deal breaker so much so I gave up on it after one injection last year because I just couldn’t take the feeling shit.

But started again last month and yes first week I felt terrible but stuck with it and I’ve taken my forth jab now and after the first week I’ve been suffering no side effects at all so I’m loving it.

Keep with it.

T

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No updates from the OP hope she's ok?"

She was on two hours ago so here’s hoping so.

T

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