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"At what age do you turn into a dirty old man? So as a mid twenties guy, I’d have accepted someone calling me filthy minded, you know. But at what time does it become acceptable to still throw out an innuendo, a flirty comment before someone gets a dirty pervert vibe and it creeps them out?…. " Teenagers can be creepy. Creepy is creepy regardless of age. | |||
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"At what age do you turn into a dirty old man? So as a mid twenties guy, I’d have accepted someone calling me filthy minded, you know. But at what time does it become acceptable to still throw out an innuendo, a flirty comment before someone gets a dirty pervert vibe and it creeps them out?…. Teenagers can be creepy. Creepy is creepy regardless of age." | |||
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"Yeah definitely. For me, it's the way a guy looks at me. Sometimes it's like I can SEE their thoughts and it makes me want to put another layer of clothes on lol" Yes. It could be entirely innocent and completely illogical, even bordering on unfair to the person but can’t help how they make you feel. Makes me think sometimes if our gut feelings and instincts are picking up on something under the surface cos it’s strange how some people can trigger this response when others don’t. Again it’s not a looks thing that I’m talking about here, I could talk to 50 men on a shift and I don’t get that vibe off them, just this one guy. | |||
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"This is more for the ladies. In general everyday life and the encounters you have with men do you ever get strong pervert vibes off *some* men and others you don’t? I’ll give an example, in work with me there this little bald guy who’s in his late 50’s and I just get pervy vibes off him, like when he says things it kinda goes through me. Now I have no evidence and he could be and most likely is a nice guy, I just can’t help the feeling I get when he talks to me. This is nothing to do with not finding him attractive. There’s lots of men I don’t find attractive in my everyday life but they don’t make me feel a certain way when I interact with them. It could the most innocent of comments like, you look nice today, but the eyes linger on me and I just feel he’s thinking shit in his head. Can’t help it. Then other guys, just normal guys like older gents I work with could say the same comments but I don’t get that same feeling. It’s just like a yucky feeling. Anyone understand what I mean?" Your gut feeling is most likely correct however I personally would be imaging all kinds of wron if I worked with or near you | |||
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"Yeah definitely. For me, it's the way a guy looks at me. Sometimes it's like I can SEE their thoughts and it makes me want to put another layer of clothes on lol Yes. It could be entirely innocent and completely illogical, even bordering on unfair to the person but can’t help how they make you feel. Makes me think sometimes if our gut feelings and instincts are picking up on something under the surface cos it’s strange how some people can trigger this response when others don’t. Again it’s not a looks thing that I’m talking about here, I could talk to 50 men on a shift and I don’t get that vibe off them, just this one guy. " You can't help how you feel. If you get that vibe, trust your instincts I say! | |||
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"At what age do you turn into a dirty old man? So as a mid twenties guy, I’d have accepted someone calling me filthy minded, you know. But at what time does it become acceptable to still throw out an innuendo, a flirty comment before someone gets a dirty pervert vibe and it creeps them out?…. Teenagers can be creepy. Creepy is creepy regardless of age." I was asking for a friend… | |||
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"Thinking about it, it must be really hard for ladies meeting guys on their own for the first time from here. Made me think I should take more care to take the ladies needs in to consideration. X" I don’t think it’s something you can control. The saying keep your thoughts to yourself won’t even apply to this situation cos it could be the thoughts that person is having when they’re in our presence that we’re picking up on. Maybe if you meet someone and you think you fancy them, instead of imagining doing things with them think of why people put dog poo in bags but then hang them on a tree branch or think of stepping on a plug barefoot | |||
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"Thinking about it, it must be really hard for ladies meeting guys on their own for the first time from here. Made me think I should take more care to take the ladies needs in to consideration. X I don’t think it’s something you can control. The saying keep your thoughts to yourself won’t even apply to this situation cos it could be the thoughts that person is having when they’re in our presence that we’re picking up on. Maybe if you meet someone and you think you fancy them, instead of imagining doing things with them think of why people put dog poo in bags but then hang them on a tree branch or think of stepping on a plug barefoot " Ok my next hot date I’ll think of dog poop | |||
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"Thinking about it, it must be really hard for ladies meeting guys on their own for the first time from here. Made me think I should take more care to take the ladies needs in to consideration. X I don’t think it’s something you can control. The saying keep your thoughts to yourself won’t even apply to this situation cos it could be the thoughts that person is having when they’re in our presence that we’re picking up on. Maybe if you meet someone and you think you fancy them, instead of imagining doing things with them think of why people put dog poo in bags but then hang them on a tree branch or think of stepping on a plug barefoot Ok my next hot date I’ll think of dog poop " Can imagine a nice romantic meal, sharing a chocolate cake, she’s says what are you thinking about? | |||
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"Thinking about it, it must be really hard for ladies meeting guys on their own for the first time from here. Made me think I should take more care to take the ladies needs in to consideration. X I don’t think it’s something you can control. The saying keep your thoughts to yourself won’t even apply to this situation cos it could be the thoughts that person is having when they’re in our presence that we’re picking up on. Maybe if you meet someone and you think you fancy them, instead of imagining doing things with them think of why people put dog poo in bags but then hang them on a tree branch or think of stepping on a plug barefoot Ok my next hot date I’ll think of dog poop Can imagine a nice romantic meal, sharing a chocolate cake, she’s says what are you thinking about? " Ha ha looks like no jiggy time for me then | |||
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"A good example of this would be Robin Thicke. A good looking man but even before any stories came about him I just knew he was a creep" What about Armie Hammer, he just gives off creepy vibes as well, guess that was also true . Him and his “cannibalistic” tendencies… And even so, it’s just his whole aura that feels off and like vomit green But I mean handsome man overall | |||
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"I think every woman will know exactly what you mean, but it is so hard to pinpoint or do anything about as they haven't done anything specific you can call out. You just know you're completely creeped out in their presence. " Correct. Most women would have felt this at some point. Really bad if it is in the context of work as you have to see them every day! | |||
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"This is more for the ladies. In general everyday life and the encounters you have with men do you ever get strong pervert vibes off *some* men and others you don’t? I’ll give an example, in work with me there this little bald guy who’s in his late 50’s and I just get pervy vibes off him, like when he says things it kinda goes through me. Now I have no evidence and he could be and most likely is a nice guy, I just can’t help the feeling I get when he talks to me. This is nothing to do with not finding him attractive. There’s lots of men I don’t find attractive in my everyday life but they don’t make me feel a certain way when I interact with them. It could the most innocent of comments like, you look nice today, but the eyes linger on me and I just feel he’s thinking shit in his head. Can’t help it. Then other guys, just normal guys like older gents I work with could say the same comments but I don’t get that same feeling. It’s just like a yucky feeling. Anyone understand what I mean?" maybe the poor bloke has seen you on here with your tits out and wishes he had a chance with you pretty much the way I’m feeling right now lol | |||
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"A good example of this would be Robin Thicke. A good looking man but even before any stories came about him I just knew he was a creep What about Armie Hammer, he just gives off creepy vibes as well, guess that was also true . Him and his “cannibalistic” tendencies… And even so, it’s just his whole aura that feels off and like vomit green But I mean handsome man overall " Yeah he’s always seemed creepy. A lot of the celebrities that have been outed as perverts or creeps or whatever haven’t came as a surprise really | |||
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"People 100% give off vibes by subtle social cues they can’t hide. The level they are interpreted by people then comes down to attractiveness I’d imagine it’s very hard for David Beckham to come off as creepy or pervy I’d imagine the innocent overweight balding old man down the road comes off that way without even trying There’s levels to it all " Well stated and put. But there is more underlying currents within us all that hide the real truth of what we mean and say or describe. Watch this space i shall write further on here. | |||
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"'Pervert' .......... Listen to the pots..... From someone else's perspective the perv is you. If anyone's senses tingle..... listen and keep your distance. Seems this man has already been 'hung drawn and quartered' by the 'girls' who work in the very big warehouse and have already had conversations about him and labelled him. Known as 'bullying' in employment terms. If he's done something , 'report him'. If he hasn't don't join in witch hunts. I DO get vibes I don't like from others it doesn't mean I am right. It doesn't mean I can discount MY characteristics and the part they have to play in relationship dynamics. Sometimes people are less 'pervy' than they are socially awkward. One bloke is a pervert while another saying EXACTLY the same thing is just a lovable flirt. Besides.... I don't know what this bloke has 'perverted' ? Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? " Nice way of putting. | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? " Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. " Could you see how thinking we should deny the other side of the coin when it comes down to labelling someone a pervert or a creep over an unverifiable gut feeling might be a problem? | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. Could you see how thinking we should deny the other side of the coin when it comes down to labelling someone a pervert or a creep over an unverifiable gut feeling might be a problem? " But does it really matter? If I choose to avoid a stranger, it doesn't really affect them, there are many other people they can know. Ultimately we all connect with people based on a gut feeling, so we should trust them. It's not hurting that person after all. | |||
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"This is more for the ladies. In general everyday life and the encounters you have with men do you ever get strong pervert vibes off *some* men and others you don’t? I’ll give an example, in work with me there this little bald guy who’s in his late 50’s and I just get pervy vibes off him, like when he says things it kinda goes through me. Now I have no evidence and he could be and most likely is a nice guy, I just can’t help the feeling I get when he talks to me. This is nothing to do with not finding him attractive. There’s lots of men I don’t find attractive in my everyday life but they don’t make me feel a certain way when I interact with them. It could the most innocent of comments like, you look nice today, but the eyes linger on me and I just feel he’s thinking shit in his head. Can’t help it. Then other guys, just normal guys like older gents I work with could say the same comments but I don’t get that same feeling. It’s just like a yucky feeling. Anyone understand what I mean?" You didn’t say good or bad perverted vibes as it could mean either lol | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. Could you see how thinking we should deny the other side of the coin when it comes down to labelling someone a pervert or a creep over an unverifiable gut feeling might be a problem? But does it really matter? If I choose to avoid a stranger, it doesn't really affect them, there are many other people they can know. Ultimately we all connect with people based on a gut feeling, so we should trust them. It's not hurting that person after all." You missed my point | |||
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"'Pervert' .......... Listen to the pots..... From someone else's perspective the perv is you. If anyone's senses tingle..... listen and keep your distance. Seems this man has already been 'hung drawn and quartered' by the 'girls' who work in the very big warehouse and have already had conversations about him and labelled him. Known as 'bullying' in employment terms. If he's done something , 'report him'. If he hasn't don't join in witch hunts. I DO get vibes I don't like from others it doesn't mean I am right. It doesn't mean I can discount MY characteristics and the part they have to play in relationship dynamics. Sometimes people are less 'pervy' than they are socially awkward. One bloke is a pervert while another saying EXACTLY the same thing is just a lovable flirt. Besides.... I don't know what this bloke has 'perverted' ? Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? " | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. Could you see how thinking we should deny the other side of the coin when it comes down to labelling someone a pervert or a creep over an unverifiable gut feeling might be a problem? But does it really matter? If I choose to avoid a stranger, it doesn't really affect them, there are many other people they can know. Ultimately we all connect with people based on a gut feeling, so we should trust them. It's not hurting that person after all. You missed my point " I reread your post and I'm still not sure of your point? | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. Could you see how thinking we should deny the other side of the coin when it comes down to labelling someone a pervert or a creep over an unverifiable gut feeling might be a problem? But does it really matter? If I choose to avoid a stranger, it doesn't really affect them, there are many other people they can know. Ultimately we all connect with people based on a gut feeling, so we should trust them. It's not hurting that person after all. You missed my point I reread your post and I'm still not sure of your point? " I personally don’t think it’s a good idea to remove the ability to question whether someone’s a creep/pervert amd just say they 100% are, over a gut feeling, is a good thing to do. As an above poster said, sometimes it can be social awkwardness, it could be because you don’t find them attractive, or it could be that your gut feeling is just wrong. If you wanna follow your gut, that’s great But to follow your gut, label them as 100% a creep/pervert, then tell other people not to question that “fact”. That’s not a path that leads anywhere nice | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. Could you see how thinking we should deny the other side of the coin when it comes down to labelling someone a pervert or a creep over an unverifiable gut feeling might be a problem? But does it really matter? If I choose to avoid a stranger, it doesn't really affect them, there are many other people they can know. Ultimately we all connect with people based on a gut feeling, so we should trust them. It's not hurting that person after all. You missed my point I reread your post and I'm still not sure of your point? I personally don’t think it’s a good idea to remove the ability to question whether someone’s a creep/pervert amd just say they 100% are, over a gut feeling, is a good thing to do. As an above poster said, sometimes it can be social awkwardness, it could be because you don’t find them attractive, or it could be that your gut feeling is just wrong. If you wanna follow your gut, that’s great But to follow your gut, label them as 100% a creep/pervert, then tell other people not to question that “fact”. That’s not a path that leads anywhere nice " I would agree if I judged or labelled them that way, or told others to. But if I just politely walk away, that's my choice surely? | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. Could you see how thinking we should deny the other side of the coin when it comes down to labelling someone a pervert or a creep over an unverifiable gut feeling might be a problem? But does it really matter? If I choose to avoid a stranger, it doesn't really affect them, there are many other people they can know. Ultimately we all connect with people based on a gut feeling, so we should trust them. It's not hurting that person after all. You missed my point I reread your post and I'm still not sure of your point? I personally don’t think it’s a good idea to remove the ability to question whether someone’s a creep/pervert amd just say they 100% are, over a gut feeling, is a good thing to do. As an above poster said, sometimes it can be social awkwardness, it could be because you don’t find them attractive, or it could be that your gut feeling is just wrong. If you wanna follow your gut, that’s great But to follow your gut, label them as 100% a creep/pervert, then tell other people not to question that “fact”. That’s not a path that leads anywhere nice I would agree if I judged or labelled them that way, or told others to. But if I just politely walk away, that's my choice surely? " Yeah, so this doesn’t include you then? | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. " Thank you so much for your response. There shouldn't be any kind of sexual communication between colleagues in the work place and I didn't suggest there should be. Of course There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation but you weren't there and can't possibly know what took place and once again I haven't denied any difference between those things at all or even mentioned them. At no time did I deny that 'gut feeling' hadn't been mentioned MILLIONS of times. I said that I get gut feelings also. Gut feelings belong to the one that is feeling them and they should trust them for their own safety. Most people who use the words Devil's Advocate understands that a Devil's Advocate usually plays first or at least early to test waters. I came in as the 'unpopular' vote after many people had already expressed their opinions. What I put is my opinion on what I read in the O.P. and i'm glad to stand by it. That's not the action of someone playing at Devil's Advocate. I haven't asked anyone to change their own opinion. I would voice my opinion on a thread where a man suggested a woman was a 'slut' or a 'perve' because he 'senses' it in his gut. And I see this form of slander as no different. I go with my gut 100 %. That doesn't make the bloke a perve.... or a danger. Just someone's DAD, SON, FATHER , HUSBAND. Bottom line if someone creeps you out, do THEM a favour and avoid them. If they actually DO something then act on it. BTW..... Do you work in the warehouse ? Again B.T.W. I can recognise Devil's Advocacy almost as easily as I can recognise 'straw manning' and 'ulterior motive.' .. | |||
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" Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? Should we be communicating in any other way but a so-called “vanilla” way in the work place? There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation. As has been mentioned several times in this thread, gut feeling is usually accurate. I don’t think there’s a need to play Devil’s advocate in the case of creeps. Thank you so much for your response. There shouldn't be any kind of sexual communication between colleagues in the work place and I didn't suggest there should be. Of course There’s a difference between sexual intimidation/gratuitous suggestiveness and mild flirtation but you weren't there and can't possibly know what took place and once again I haven't denied any difference between those things at all or even mentioned them. At no time did I deny that 'gut feeling' hadn't been mentioned MILLIONS of times. I said that I get gut feelings also. Gut feelings belong to the one that is feeling them and they should trust them for their own safety. Most people who use the words Devil's Advocate understands that a Devil's Advocate usually plays first or at least early to test waters. I came in as the 'unpopular' vote after many people had already expressed their opinions. What I put is my opinion on what I read in the O.P. and i'm glad to stand by it. That's not the action of someone playing at Devil's Advocate. I haven't asked anyone to change their own opinion. I would voice my opinion on a thread where a man suggested a woman was a 'slut' or a 'perve' because he 'senses' it in his gut. And I see this form of slander as no different. I go with my gut 100 %. That doesn't make the bloke a perve.... or a danger. Just someone's DAD, SON, FATHER , HUSBAND. Bottom line if someone creeps you out, do THEM a favour and avoid them. If they actually DO something then act on it. BTW..... Do you work in the warehouse ? Again B.T.W. I can recognise Devil's Advocacy almost as easily as I can recognise 'straw manning' and 'ulterior motive.' .. " It's not slander. Slander is damaging someone's reputation by saying something. All that's being discussed is being careful around someone because of instinct. Something women do from age 12 don't they? Be on their guard around men. That's why women have finely honed instincts. | |||
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"They're was a blind date sort of game show in America I think and the lady contestant won a date with one of the male contestants. After the date she said that he was creepy. Turned out he was a serial killer. Trust your instincts unless your with me obviously " Rodney Alcala. He’s in one of my serial killer books. | |||
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"It’s not even a looks thing. It’s hard to explain and other girls I work with have said the same thing about this one dude. I work in a massive warehouse with men from age 18 to 60 of all shapes and sizes but it just this one guy. Like I wear leggings to work they’re the comfiest things but I wouldn’t walk up the stairs with him behind me buy any other person I wouldn’t even be aware of. There’s another older guy, I don’t find him attractive at all but he’s so funny and he actually says rude things but he’s hilarious and I can talk to him for ages and he doesn’t make me feel any kind of way. It’s nuts. " Do some people just have the looks, charm and mannerism where they mostly get away with it ? Others without those looks/social skills try similar and are just creepy ? | |||
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"This is more for the ladies. In general everyday life and the encounters you have with men do you ever get strong pervert vibes off *some* men and others you don’t? I’ll give an example, in work with me there this little bald guy who’s in his late 50’s and I just get pervy vibes off him, like when he says things it kinda goes through me. Now I have no evidence and he could be and most likely is a nice guy, I just can’t help the feeling I get when he talks to me. This is nothing to do with not finding him attractive. There’s lots of men I don’t find attractive in my everyday life but they don’t make me feel a certain way when I interact with them. It could the most innocent of comments like, you look nice today, but the eyes linger on me and I just feel he’s thinking shit in his head. Can’t help it. Then other guys, just normal guys like older gents I work with could say the same comments but I don’t get that same feeling. It’s just like a yucky feeling. Anyone understand what I mean?" I hear this more off close FAB friends and the asking of opinions of 'what do you make of him'? | |||
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"Don't worry about the whys and wherefores, just trust your instincts." Exactly this. We second guess ourselves because we have been told to override our instincts as women since being children.. And all of us in this culture generally. Trust your instincts. I mean, there's no need to give the guy a hard time if he hasn't acted in any way but.. Distance, boundaries and trust your gut. | |||
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"'Pervert' .......... Listen to the pots..... From someone else's perspective the perv is you. If anyone's senses tingle..... listen and keep your distance. Seems this man has already been 'hung drawn and quartered' by the 'girls' who work in the very big warehouse and have already had conversations about him and labelled him. Known as 'bullying' in employment terms. If he's done something , 'report him'. If he hasn't don't join in witch hunts. I DO get vibes I don't like from others it doesn't mean I am right. It doesn't mean I can discount MY characteristics and the part they have to play in relationship dynamics. Sometimes people are less 'pervy' than they are socially awkward. One bloke is a pervert while another saying EXACTLY the same thing is just a lovable flirt. Besides.... I don't know what this bloke has 'perverted' ? Some sanctified vanilla method of talking to a colleague ? " Granny you always have all the right words! | |||
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