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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? " Forgot to mention, mean is also the cause of diseases | |||
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"It’s a piece of piss. Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe. I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely. I feel like a new person, it’s incredible. DO IT!!" Do you feel that you have less energy? | |||
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"It’s a piece of piss. Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe. I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely. I feel like a new person, it’s incredible. DO IT!!" Can I ask in what way do you feel different? I've just recently cut out red meat...... | |||
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"No definitely not. I could probably go vegetarian if I really had to but rather stay as I am " You love meat | |||
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"No definitely not. I could probably go vegetarian if I really had to but rather stay as I am You love meat " I don’t think vegans have to give up cock. Do they? | |||
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"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?" Q: do you eat pussy? A: no, I'm vegan Hope this helps | |||
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"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?" Turkey twizzler and the sperm depends on the diet of the owner | |||
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"No definitely not. I could probably go vegetarian if I really had to but rather stay as I am You love meat I don’t think vegans have to give up cock. Do they? " I'm not vegan yet, nor do I like cock | |||
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"It’s a piece of piss. Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe. I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely. I feel like a new person, it’s incredible. DO IT!! Do you feel that you have less energy? " I feel way better and have more energy. Everyone is different though, and people's bodies react differently. I gradually have up dairy after having been vegetarian for years before. | |||
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"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?" Vegans can swallow semen because—for purposes of ingestion—semen is considered vegan-friendly. While sperm are alive in a crude biological sense, they are not conscious or sentient.... google says yes | |||
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"Full vegan or just a plant based diet OP ? I went plant based for nearly 2 years . Main thing i missed was cheese . Vegan cheese sucks. Apart from that the meat replacements aren't bad these days. In stil plant based most of the week but do enjoy proper meat now and again." If you go plant based or vegan or vegetarian, why eat meat replacements? | |||
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"Full vegan or just a plant based diet OP ? I went plant based for nearly 2 years . Main thing i missed was cheese . Vegan cheese sucks. Apart from that the meat replacements aren't bad these days. In stil plant based most of the week but do enjoy proper meat now and again. If you go plant based or vegan or vegetarian, why eat meat replacements? " i like the taste of meat but didnt want to eat meat. | |||
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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? " I did try it and it wasn’t sustainable for my body either. I already lack in B12 and that’s something vegan and vegetarian will suffer and it’s recommended to take extra B12 When I did try it, my body went into shut down and I started getting mouth ulcers and felt generally Ill. So I knew it wasn’t for me. And that’s okay. I don’t eat a ton lot of meat ANYWAY. And it’s very minimal and in small quantities (usually I’d eat it like 2-3 times a week and I don’t remember when I last had red meat … but I’d definitely order a steak out if I want to ) x | |||
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"I thought being Vegan was a whole lot more than just cutting meat out, somebody has mentioned eggs and milk also Honey is out with some vegans and then you would need to look at your clothes, no leather for a start I am not Vegan but i respect those that are it is a life choice, but do not think cutting meat out means you are vegan " it is . They change clothing household products and all sorts . Thats why i asked if OP meant vegan or just plant based diet. | |||
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"I thought being Vegan was a whole lot more than just cutting meat out, somebody has mentioned eggs and milk also Honey is out with some vegans and then you would need to look at your clothes, no leather for a start I am not Vegan but i respect those that are it is a life choice, but do not think cutting meat out means you are vegan " Eggs and milk are animal products, so all "vegans" don't eat them. There's a difference between vegan diet, and vegan. You can never completely cut out animal products. You can reduce your usage. | |||
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"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan?" That’s the only milk coming from a warm living body I’ll happily drink | |||
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"I thought being Vegan was a whole lot more than just cutting meat out, somebody has mentioned eggs and milk also Honey is out with some vegans and then you would need to look at your clothes, no leather for a start I am not Vegan but i respect those that are it is a life choice, but do not think cutting meat out means you are vegan it is . They change clothing household products and all sorts . Thats why i asked if OP meant vegan or just plant based diet. " Just mild plant based to start with and see how I feel | |||
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" That’s the only milk coming from a warm living body I’ll happily drink " HAHAAHA!! | |||
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"We have been vegan for years and years. It’s no big deal now to be a vegan. Years ago you would have all the usual nonsense thrown at you but now people have grown up and now that it is mainstream you no longer get uninformed comments. Also bear in mind you can have a very bad vegan diet if you eat all the processed junk. Going vegan isn’t a given for a healthy eating, you have to be aware of what you are eating the same as any diet. But can tell you this, you will feel better for it. " Amen to that | |||
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"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan? That’s the only milk coming from a warm living body I’ll happily drink " I’ve got a tight hard on now. Thanks! | |||
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"What meat is cock meat and is spunk vegan? That’s the only milk coming from a warm living body I’ll happily drink I’ve got a tight hard on now. Thanks! " I might have to put that on a t-shirt even tho it’s kind of a long quote | |||
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"Do vegans swallow?" I mean …. it’s ethically sourced right? X | |||
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"But what about KFC, I like KFC " Their vegan option is absolute shite as well. I once had to get it as it was the only thing available. Horrid. | |||
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"But what about KFC, I like KFC Their vegan option is absolute shite as well. I once had to get it as it was the only thing available. Horrid." Colonel will be turning in his grave | |||
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"It’s a piece of piss. Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe. I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely. I feel like a new person, it’s incredible. DO IT!!" Let me think.. DO IT!! Nope thought about it.. No thanks, you made / make your choice(s) and let others make theirs. World would be a far better place if others respected others choices. | |||
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"Will never be a Vegan I like all meat, poultry and Fish I have leather seat coverings in my car. I have leather covered furniture in my home I wear leather shoes I cannot see myself changing any of that in the forseeable future" Neither can I Tarkus. | |||
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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? " I've been vegan for 5-6 years.. Was veggie for 30 years before that. I think with Nigella, it's more a publicity thing - she still has books /TV programmes to push My only regret is not doing it sooner (I listened to the nay-sayers, telling me I'd die from lack of nutrients.. My mum still misguidedly tells me this, so i think it is a generation thing ) My health is better and i am stronger, and I have better energy than when I was veggie. I'd say it's very easy if it's something you genuinely want to do. You can be as healthy or as unhealthy as you like, pretty much as with any other diet! If you want to chat about it, DM me, happy to help /answer queries | |||
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"I was a vegan for many years. I could give up meat, dairy and other animal derived products but I love leather. I tend not to buy new leather, most of mine is vintage and was purchased second hand. If I see something well made at a fet market I might make an exception. Old leather is so beautiful. I have loads of tooled leather bags, cowboy boots and bullwhips that I wouldn't want to part with." I would count that as still being vegan as buying second hand is a more ethical choice than buying new. | |||
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"I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese. My health and fitness has never been better. I love vegetarian food, it's delicious. " Ooooo have you tried naturli? It come in block +spreadable version - i had a very pleasant surprise when i tried it (you can get it in sainsburys +waitrose) | |||
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"I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese. My health and fitness has never been better. I love vegetarian food, it's delicious. Ooooo have you tried naturli? It come in block +spreadable version - i had a very pleasant surprise when i tried it (you can get it in sainsburys +waitrose) " No but I'll have a look. Butter is my thing. I'm a bit obsessed with it! | |||
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"I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese. My health and fitness has never been better. I love vegetarian food, it's delicious. Ooooo have you tried naturli? It come in block +spreadable version - i had a very pleasant surprise when i tried it (you can get it in sainsburys +waitrose) No but I'll have a look. Butter is my thing. I'm a bit obsessed with it!" Yeah me too and i kinda resigned myself I'd have to start eating dry toast 'normal' people I've tested it on, unknowingly, haven't known the difference Tell me what you think xx | |||
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"I'm fairly flexible and easy mainly plant based - I would struggle to give up butter and cheese. My health and fitness has never been better. I love vegetarian food, it's delicious. Ooooo have you tried naturli? It come in block +spreadable version - i had a very pleasant surprise when i tried it (you can get it in sainsburys +waitrose) No but I'll have a look. Butter is my thing. I'm a bit obsessed with it! Yeah me too and i kinda resigned myself I'd have to start eating dry toast 'normal' people I've tested it on, unknowingly, haven't known the difference Tell me what you think xx" Oooh OK, I'm quite excited now. I'll give it a try. Xx | |||
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"I was a vegan for many years. I could give up meat, dairy and other animal derived products but I love leather. I tend not to buy new leather, most of mine is vintage and was purchased second hand. If I see something well made at a fet market I might make an exception. Old leather is so beautiful. I have loads of tooled leather bags, cowboy boots and bullwhips that I wouldn't want to part with. I would count that as still being vegan as buying second hand is a more ethical choice than buying new. " When I was vegan it was because of the animals not for dietary reasons. I used to sell vintage clothing but would not stock fur, leather, wool or silk. I'm kind of an "all in" person. I meet so many vegans that wear and buy leather. If it's a health thing then cool but leather is a industry on its own not a byproduct. I eat very little meat compared to most and I ask myself if I had to kill, prepare and cook this animal could I do it? The answer is yes, cows being the hardest yet I eat less beef and tend to stick to fish and Fowl. A bit of a ramble but I hope it makes some sense | |||
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"I'm an omnivore, I eat meat & veg and enjoy both." Same here. | |||
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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? " Nope. I would not want to either | |||
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"I probably can cut down but not sure it's condusive to supplementing my fitness goals which are to get absolutely fuckin' swole " If anything, it could help with your goals! | |||
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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? " I don't really know the full 100% vegan stipulations etc but l have stopped eating red meat regularly since Jan 2020 and now l cook fish and veg 6 days a week , But l drink full milk ..eat Jaffa's..maybe a Mars bar etc during the week , but if l was visiting someone's house and they stuck on a bit of dinner and there was red meat in it of course l'd eat it but in general l stopped eating red meat ,check out " Game Changer " on Netflix..it's a brilliant documentary movie on a person trying to find the ultimate diet for sport's people and everyday people..see what you think of it but just to say since l stopped eating the red meat l have found more energy . | |||
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"Whilst I wouldn’t be able to do it I do admire those who chose a vegan lifestyle. It must be so difficult to avoid anything that isn’t. Even Lateral Flow tests are not vegan friendly!! " I had no idea! So what do vegans use instead? | |||
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"Whilst I wouldn’t be able to do it I do admire those who chose a vegan lifestyle. It must be so difficult to avoid anything that isn’t. Even Lateral Flow tests are not vegan friendly!! " Oh god, that's less than ideal | |||
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"I probably can cut down but not sure it's condusive to supplementing my fitness goals which are to get absolutely fuckin' swole If anything, it could help with your goals!" How so? I don't think vegan options are as enriched with protein as meat. Although there are good vegan options for healthy fats and carbs. | |||
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"I probably can cut down but not sure it's condusive to supplementing my fitness goals which are to get absolutely fuckin' swole If anything, it could help with your goals! How so? I don't think vegan options are as enriched with protein as meat. Although there are good vegan options for healthy fats and carbs." Oblivion do a vegan protein powder. Nearly as much protein as the regular version. | |||
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"How so? I don't think vegan options are as enriched with protein as meat. Although there are good vegan options for healthy fats and carbs." There are three documentary films I always recommend: 1. Game changers 2. Forks over knives 3. Cowspiracy Watch, learn, and do your own research. | |||
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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? " I have no interest in reducing my meat intake, let alone becoming Vegan. I personally don't think that a vegan diet itself can provide everything that I need. On the other hand, I would whole heartedly support a return to locally sourced food and only being able to buy what is "in season". 99% of the environmental impacts that veganism would help with are caused by large industrial farming practices and globally shipped food. These would be reduced massively by returning to traditional farming methods. Cal | |||
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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? Forgot to mention, mean is also the cause of diseases " I believe I should, I just really don't want to do I put it off. I have made more effort to choose meat free options but I know I'm a hypocrite who knows be should do more but doesn't. What diseases are caused by meat? Mr | |||
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"Using coconut as a substitute for lots of things wouldn't be possible due to an allergy. Meat vise I do try to eat vegan/vegetarian at least once a week. Stopping eating meat not a problem I was vegetarian for 7 years, eggs and cheeses would be my problem. " Oh i can see how that would be tricky - same as a nut alleries + nightshade family | |||
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"I personally don't think that a vegan diet itself can provide everything that I need." My suggestion to you Cal would be to watch the three documentaries I listed previously, and do your own research. That should reassure you that a vegan diet can provide everything you need. | |||
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"I'm a fan of veg " Apparently so! | |||
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"I did for 4 years. Just made me sick towards the end as my body craved the nutrients and stuff. " In the absence of an underlying condition, that would suggest you were not managing your diet. The nutrition you need can be found in a healthy vegan diet! | |||
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"I'm a fan of veg Apparently so! " But I couldn't give up your sausage | |||
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"I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild? Cal" Probably the opposite. They would be free and breeding. Populations would go up. Because if everyone was vegan they wouldn't be allowed to cull them. Though sheep might die if they all get sick due to not being sheared.. | |||
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"Not a hope whilst i have New Forest ice-cream to chow!!" Yeah, actually. I really like ice cream as well. | |||
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"I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild? Cal" There wouldn't be any. They only exist because they are bred as farm animals, and most are unable to survive in the wild, even if there was room for them. Apart from the breeds of sheep that can shed their own fleeces each year | |||
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"I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild? Cal Probably the opposite. They would be free and breeding. Populations would go up. Because if everyone was vegan they wouldn't be allowed to cull them. Though sheep might die if they all get sick due to not being sheared.." I'm not sure they'd just be left to wander free. Any change like this wouldn't happen over night, no government would bring in a law banning all animal farming with immediate effect and without such a law it wouldn't happen at all. So let's say it is banned - with farmers given a few years notice so that the industry doesn't collapse. Animals would be sold and killed as now just in steadily decreasing numbers as farm after farm switches to growing avocado or whatever. There would be a massive upheaval and job loss in many parts of the country, upland Britain simply isn't suitable for farming anything other than sheep. Short term this would lead to significant social deprivation in many areas (think of the mine closures that whole communities still suffer from). Longer term, much of the uplands would once again become forested, we would almost certainly need to look at the reintroduction of apex predators to manage land that humans no longer have any use for. There are plenty of farms now that are run a visitor attractions with rare breeds being kept. These aren't rare breed in the sense of species going extinct, just taste breeds of domesticated animals - none of which bare more than a passing resemblance to the wild animals they are descended from. Mr | |||
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"It’s a piece of piss. Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe. I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely. I feel like a new person, it’s incredible. DO IT!!" No | |||
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"I do wonder: If the world became Vegan, would there be cows, sheep, chickens etc.. in Zoos to protect them from extinction, or would there be some campaign to release them into the wild? Cal ----- Probably the opposite. They would be free and breeding. Populations would go up. Because if everyone was vegan they wouldn't be allowed to cull them. Though sheep might die if they all get sick due to not being sheared.." Breeding would be an issue, almost every creature in farming is female. There is a real shortage of genetic diversity due to the small number of males used. It would certainly require moving animals around to prevent "inbreeding"... moving the animals about also wouldn't be "vegan". Cal | |||
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"Im awaiting blocks of every kind and direction!! (And i welcome it! You dont understand, you're not with t!) one of jobs.... On call dispatch.(I cover 3 counties) I shoot animals with no hope of survival and are in pain.... Basically, I end lives of animals.... Am i evil in the eyes of a staunch vegan with strong beliefs?? Am evil in all vegans eyes, because i pull the trigger?? (Profile hidden but I can still get abusive mails via here! It's all good and I will not report!)" In my opinion, what you do is merciful not evil. I think that euthanasia is humane and should be available to people too. I hate watching any living creature suffer. Not everyone will agree but differing opinions, without malice, are interesting. | |||
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"Vegan for 5 years ish ...... I'll do you " Such a huge piece of pork for one woman don't you think ? | |||
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"Full vegan or just a plant based diet OP ? I went plant based for nearly 2 years . Main thing i missed was cheese . Vegan cheese sucks. Apart from that the meat replacements aren't bad these days. In stil plant based most of the week but do enjoy proper meat now and again. If you go plant based or vegan or vegetarian, why eat meat replacements? " It's a shared language to enable communication. Sausage is a shape - not a meat. Burger is a shape as is a pattie..... not a meat. Plant based MEAT balls ..... shit.... | |||
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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? " I don’t eat dairy or processed meat but do still eat meat. Watch “what the health” on Netflix! | |||
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"Not the old 'lack of vitamin' argument again ... !ffs. Anyone would think that the vitamin industry sprang up last year to support the poor y vegans.... The vitamin industry has been thriving for years for all those that never eat fruit or veg or enough protein..... B12 is put into feed so that your MEAT has it in it. Vegans get it in plant form or tablet or liquid form. " I have B12 in my meat | |||
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"It’s a piece of piss. Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe. I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely. I feel like a new person, it’s incredible. DO IT!! No" I think the issue with these types of threads is that they invariably become a series of anecdotes. There will be vegans saying that they're more healthy than they've ever been and others saying they tried and got ill, this last group then get told they didn't have the "right" vegan diet Can you live a vegan diet? Yes absolutely. You have to have B12 supplements - anyone telling you this is found in certain foods is taking bollocks, it is in those foods as a supplement (yeast is the classic example of this, it doesn't naturally produce b12). However, to make a vegan diet work requires a great deal of attention to ensuring you get the correct amount of various nutrients which in turn means a careful selection of food. Any diet where you pay this level of careful attention to what you eat and select meals specifically to ensure the correct balance of nutrients will make you feel better than the standard processed crap we mostly eat now. This effect is then hailed as being all about going vegan rather than making life changing alterations to how you view food. It isn't, you feel better because you're eating a balanced diet - and one that doesn't contain the known poisons that are used to preserve processed meat. Are there arguments for going vegan from an animal welfare point of view? Absolutely. Are there arguments from an environmental point of view? Absolutely. Are there arguments from a health point of view? No. There are studies that give a correlation with lower risk of certain illnesses but these are not controlled for by comparing vegan with an equally carefully controlled non vegan diet - there simply aren't enough non vegans who take the same level of care to ensure their diet provides everything. This type of study requires long term information from thousands of test subjects and such data with all variables controlled for simply doesn't exist. Also, these studies are only ever for specific diseases, not life expectancy as a whole - I have been reading lately about efforts to correlate this but the data is inconclusive and full of potential problems. Mr | |||
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"It’s a piece of piss. Anyone who says they “can’t do without meat” is talking tripe. I ate meat at least 6/7 times a weak, whether that be breakfast, lunch or dinner. Then a change of conscience & for my own thoughts etc I’ve stopped completely. I feel like a new person, it’s incredible. DO IT!!" | |||
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" This type of study requires long term information from thousands of test subjects and such data with all variables controlled for simply doesn't exist. " Look for the impact on cardiac health in Norway during WW2, when their dairy output was taken by the Germans for their war effort. (It’s in one of the documentaries I’ve referred to earlier) A lot of the “modern diet” information is pushed on us by big business. | |||
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"I can promise you that grass fed pasture raised livestock production is absolutely essential for the well being of the planet and human survival. Anybody disagreeing with that doesn't know enough about agriculture and soils. Period." Interesting. Please qualify your argument. How can the death of an animal be essential for the planet? | |||
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"I can promise you that grass fed pasture raised livestock production is absolutely essential for the well being of the planet and human survival. Anybody disagreeing with that doesn't know enough about agriculture and soils. Period. Interesting. Please qualify your argument. How can the death of an animal be essential for the planet?" | |||
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"I can promise you that grass fed pasture raised livestock production is absolutely essential for the well being of the planet and human survival. Anybody disagreeing with that doesn't know enough about agriculture and soils. Period. Interesting. Please qualify your argument. How can the death of an animal be essential for the planet?" Can you not see the irony of what you've just said ?? . Do you not understand basic biological cycles ? What do you think happens to human bodies when they are buried ? It's all part of the cycle. Millions of animals die every minute all over the planet and all contribute to the natural cycle of things, whether they are eaten by humans, other animals or maggots. Grim but natural. | |||
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"Nigela Lawson went vegan for 2 weeks and now claims it's not sustainable for her. I'm thinking of cutting down on my meat consumption from 5 days a week to 1-2 days a week and more seafood and veg, thoughts? " Don’t blame her ! That girl looks like she loves her meat ! | |||
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"I can promise you that grass fed pasture raised livestock production is absolutely essential for the well being of the planet and human survival. Anybody disagreeing with that doesn't know enough about agriculture and soils. Period. Interesting. Please qualify your argument. How can the death of an animal be essential for the planet? Can you not see the irony of what you've just said ?? . Do you not understand basic biological cycles ? What do you think happens to human bodies when they are buried ? It's all part of the cycle. Millions of animals die every minute all over the planet and all contribute to the natural cycle of things, whether they are eaten by humans, other animals or maggots. Grim but natural. " If what you inferred is what I thought, yes, but it isn’t. I was asking why animal livestock production is essential for the planet and, for the record, the eventual waste isn’t nicely buried in graves. We are talking about animals as a PRODUCT. So, for clarity, Why is the creation and eventual destruction of an animal essential to the planet? | |||
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"How so? I don't think vegan options are as enriched with protein as meat. Although there are good vegan options for healthy fats and carbs. There are three documentary films I always recommend: 1. Game changers 2. Forks over knives 3. Cowspiracy Watch, learn, and do your own research." I second this | |||
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"Watch a documentary on Netflix called Game Changers. It may convince you to go vegan " No it wouldn't (well not me anyway) | |||
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