FabSwingers.com forum: If you fancy a trans woman are you gay?

By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

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I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

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By *mizhereMan
over a year ago

Thame Area

Not at all

No difference if m f or in between for me it’s the person not the sex

Ok I’m bi so that helps but if a m to f female with me she’s female and I’m straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a woman fancies a trans woman she might be gay.

Some women look like men. Some men look like women.

You have gorgeous hair and figure OP.

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

Thank you for the compliments.

That's why I specified "female presenting trans" in the post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a woman fancies a trans woman she might be gay.

Exactly! Or if a woman fancies a man who’s transgender, she’s still straight. I mean some guys (ftm) are freaking handsome as !!! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kimmikat... Your looking terrific, but I'm sure you have had plenty of remarks privately.....

Sex or gender are no longer important from my perspective.

Love women as much as men..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck labels. Fancy who you fancy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't believe anything "makes" you gay. This is why I don't join in with the whole fab straight mocking. There are may sides to how you define your sexuality and how others see you.

It is quite possible that a guy in denial to himself about his sexuality may choose to play with a pre-op trans woman as a way of playing with a man's genitals while not having to think too hard about why he wants to. It is equally possible for a man to fancy a trans woman simply because he thinks she is sexy/he really likes her and her genitals aren't what defines this desire.

For me sexuality is a state of mind not a tick list of behaviors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id say bi, but honestly who cares about lables.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"Id say bi, but honestly who cares about lables.

Exactly. Focus on the person, not what's between their legs.

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

Oh I wish I had articulated it as well as this. I completely agree with every word ??

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

It was about a personal experience where labels were used towards me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Id say bi, but honestly who cares about lables.

Exactly. Focus on the person, not what's between their legs.

Yeah.

Don’t focus on what’s between people’s legs!

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

I don't actually agree I'm proud to be trans and its a label I proudly wear because it's a big part of who I am.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fancy a trans woman.... Am I gay?!

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I fancy a trans woman.... Am I gay?! "

Are you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I'm gay for thinking some trans women are hot, give me that sticker, I'd wear it proudly.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

No your are not gay if you fancy transwomen

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

You look tremendous as a woman and no to the gay question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fancy a trans woman.... Am I gay?!

Are you?"

A little bit

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I fancy a trans woman.... Am I gay?!

Are you?

A little bit

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By *olly SwallowsTV/TS
over a year ago

Sexville

I personally don’t think so, you fancy them as they look like women!

As others have said though let’s scrap the labels and like what we like have have fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not that labels matter but in the sense of labels then yes however what does it matter? Who cares? Want, like or love whomever you desire regardless of labels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fuck labels. Fancy who you fancy. "

What he said

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By *amantha TSWoman
over a year ago

Swindon

Unfortunately the world revolves on labels. Even this very site defines things to the nth degree. A "Who cares?" option would be so refreshing!

But IMO no, fancying a female presenting human as a straight man would not make you gay. Especially the OP x

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

Transwomen are women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man."

No you cant

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man."

So sleeping with a post op transwomen with a vagina makes you

Gay

???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man."

Bet you must have done thorough and extensive research on all transgender women then x CONGRATS!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

So sleeping with a post op transwomen with a vagina makes you

Gay

???

Applying the same logic

Maybe he would sleep with a bearded ripped trans man because …biologically he was born female x

Who freaking knows x

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

So sleeping with a post op transwomen with a vagina makes you

Gay

???

Applying the same logic

Maybe he would sleep with a bearded ripped trans man because …biologically he was born female x

Who freaking knows x

Fabulous xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man."

That’s extremely rude to be suggesting a post op trans woman is ‘a man’.

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man."

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no.

What are all your opinions?

One day, I hope these "questioners" will just identify themselves as "sexual", and leave it at that.

Worrying about what type of "sexual" they are seems like an awful lot of effort and self-analysis to me.

Must we be "things" ?

I'd rather be me.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank "

Who's jumping on him

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank "

Didnt know this thread was who is passable as a woman

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By *agpie and RavenMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank

Didnt know this thread was who is passable as a woman

They often go off track and deviate from the original post.

Frank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't make you gay at all I consider myself a straight a male and label myself as one but that falls onto my preferences of dating but my mindset to sex has no label I believe my choices of who I sleep with or have any sexual involvement with is more of me exploring basic human curiosity into sexual fantasies and so on.. Sex is for pleasure and fun not something that has to be defined by a label be you and enjoy what you want

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"Unfortunately the world revolves on labels. Even this very site defines things to the nth degree. A "Who cares?" option would be so refreshing!

But IMO no, fancying a female presenting human as a straight man would not make you gay. Especially the OP x"

Thank you very much for the compliment. I'm so happy you posted. Labels are used constantly on here even when you fill your profile out about your kinks your labelling yourself. I'm proud of my label, I've fought to be who I am and that's a trans woman that's who I am.

I don't care what people think I just was curious about other people's thoughts on the matter. I'm very secure in myself, so thanks for the comments

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no.

What are all your opinions?

One day, I hope these "questioners" will just identify themselves as "sexual", and leave it at that.

Worrying about what type of "sexual" they are seems like an awful lot of effort and self-analysis to me.

Must we be "things" ?

I'd rather be me.

I'm not worried about anything it was a curious question to see what others think about the messages I've been getting.

This site revolves around labels how else would you know you're compatible and into the same kinks. Are they not labels?

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There

People identify as whatever suits them best, it’s not for anyone else to decide it for them. You might disagree with the way someone identifies, but it’s none of your business.

A CIS man might be attracted to a trans woman and whether he considers her male or female is up to him, whether he thinks that makes him gay or straight is also up to him. A trans woman will obviously identify as female, and that’s her business too.

Whether we agree or don’t, we all need to start being more respectful of other peoples choices. You can’t tell someone what they identify as, regardless of what you think.

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank "

Is it really necessary to bring into question who looks passable as a woman. That really wasn't anything to do with the question. I find it inappropriate.

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By *ob08Man
over a year ago

Macclesfield

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank

Is it really necessary to bring into question who looks passable as a woman. That really wasn't anything to do with the question. I find it inappropriate. "

To be fair if you ask a highly charged and leading question, you have to be prepared to get some answers you don't agree with.

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank

Is it really necessary to bring into question who looks passable as a woman. That really wasn't anything to do with the question. I find it inappropriate.

To be fair if you ask a highly charged and leading question, you have to be prepared to get some answers you don't agree with."

It's nothing to do with the question and of course everyone's entitled to their opinion but I'm also entitled to respond

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Gay guys fancy men

Not transwomen

The guys iv slept with would never class themselves as gay

But then again

Labels are so overrated

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"People identify as whatever suits them best, it’s not for anyone else to decide it for them. You might disagree with the way someone identifies, but it’s none of your business.

Whether we agree or don’t, we all need to start being more respectful of other peoples choices. You can’t tell someone what they identify as, regardless of what you think. "

I'm not telling anyone what their identity is. The messages I get are "does it make me gay if I want you" (I'm talking about just myself and my reply to that question to me is no. I was just curious on the opinions of others.

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

I agree

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I agree

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank "

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"Transwomen are women."

YESSSSSSSS

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

I'm not worried about anything it was a curious question to see what others think about the messages I've been getting.

This site revolves around labels how else would you know you're compatible and into the same kinks. Are they not labels? "

Apologies...I didn't make it clear. I was not saying you were the one doing the worrying...I meant the straight guys worrying about the sexuality they were.

I was trying to say the amount of energy they expend worrying about themselves seems quite unnecessary.

As for labels around combability, you do raise a good point. I suppose they are labels, but I think some would see them as "preferences" in the context of looking for like-minded souls. Or "signposts" perhaps.

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There

"People identify as whatever suits them best, it’s not for anyone else to decide it for them. You might disagree with the way someone identifies, but it’s none of your business.

Whether we agree or don’t, we all need to start being more respectful of other peoples choices. You can’t tell someone what they identify as, regardless of what you think.

Sorry, I didn’t mean you specifically. I was really referring to those trying to say that a trans woman isn’t a woman. But in general I do think these threads are tricky because identity is such a personal thing.

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By *xciter7169Man
over a year ago

The Midlands

"Gay guys fancy men

Not transwomen

The guys iv slept with would never class themselves as gay

But then again

Labels are so overrated

Labels are overrated,its so last year

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By *ilffadMan
over a year ago

swansea

Yes, you probably are gay. It's dangerous to confuse identity with reality. You can identify as a kumquat if you want: reality doesn't make it so.

Trans-women are exactly that (as are trans-men), hence the prefix. You can have all the surgery and drugs you want, but you will never have a period, never give birth. You can identify as a woman, but your vagina (if you have had that surgery) will always have been made from remnants of a penis or other skin grafts.

There was a very interesting article yesterday about lesbians being abused by the trans community because they didn't want to sleep with trans women. They were called trans-phobic and genital fixated. All of which is total bollocks (excuse the pun). If a lesbian doesn't want to sleep with a trans-woman because her vagina is made from a penis, that's her right.

In the same way, I'm straight. But presented with a woman who transed to male, again sorry, not for me. You were born a woman but decided to go male. It holds no attraction for me.

And before the brigade decide to jump on my back and say I'm transphobic, please look up the definition of a phobia. If you want to be trans, good for you, I absolutely support your right to transition. But that's where it stops. You are a trans-xxxx. Biology and science cannot make you what you are not. Identify as male or female, but your biology will say otherwise

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"Yes, you probably are gay. It's dangerous to confuse identity with reality. You can identify as a kumquat if you want: reality doesn't make it so.

In the same way, I'm straight. But presented with a woman who transed to male, again sorry, not for me. You were born a woman but decided to go male. It holds no attraction for me.

So part of what you said is you confirming that a M2F trans woman is still a man yet further down in your diatribe you also say that you wouldn't have sex with a F2M trans man because they're now a man even though they were born a woman.

So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man?

You do know that your views which you are entitled to hold go against the views held by people with a lot more knowledge of gender than you and of pretty much anyone on this thread and who choose to voice their opinions on this subject.

There are actual trans people who are sharing their knowledge on here and elsewhere who have spent their lives living with trans issues, fighting to be who they are meant to be and having to deal with being subjected to all kinds of things you know little about yet you find it OK to tell them they're not who the medical and legal systems tell them that they are.

I hate these fucking threads.

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

My answer to this is that if a man fancies a trans woman then he isn't gay, the very definition of being gay is being attracted to people of the same gender as yourself which for a cis male, trans women are not the same gender

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By *jekimMan
over a year ago

Wigan

You can't help it looking at some of them on here ?????

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By *ob08Man
over a year ago

Macclesfield

"Yes, you probably are gay. It's dangerous to confuse identity with reality. You can identify as a kumquat if you want: reality doesn't make it so.

In the same way, I'm straight. But presented with a woman who transed to male, again sorry, not for me. You were born a woman but decided to go male. It holds no attraction for me.

So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man?

I hate these fucking threads."

So to have any kind of valid input on this thread you need to be trans is that what you're saying? Wow I thought I'd just about heard it all

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"Yes, you probably are gay. It's dangerous to confuse identity with reality. You can identify as a kumquat if you want: reality doesn't make it so.

In the same way, I'm straight. But presented with a woman who transed to male, again sorry, not for me. You were born a woman but decided to go male. It holds no attraction for me.

So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man?

I hate these fucking threads.

So to have any kind of valid input on this thread you need to be trans is that what you're saying? Wow I thought I'd just about heard it all

No that is not what I'm saying at all, sometimes people do need to do a little research though before they add in their 2 pence worth on a very complex and emotive subject and try to deny people the right to be who they are.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Do you know how embryonic development happens? All embryos have the female pattern until such a point in development as the Y chromosome kicks in. However, all the cells that form the reproductive system are laid down before the Y chromosome switches on. The male testes are externalised ovaries. They have pretty much the same cellular structure. The male penis is the vagina turned inside out with the clitoral tissue forming the head.

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

Men have nipples and some breast tissue exactly because of the female pattern to early embryonic formation. The nipples are there, minus as much breast tissue, by the time the Y chromosome does its thing and makes the nipples redundant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

This right here

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

Wonderfully put

And now the men know they're all trans

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By *ilffadMan
over a year ago

swansea

Congratulation on being the first to troll.

At no point did I say that a grand person is always a man. That would actually be ridiculous.

Also for your belief that so many people on here know more about gender than me, possibly but again in the article yesterday, trans-women stood up for lesbians and their right and got shot diwn (and threatened).

Again, I've not said anything untrue so if you hate these threads, maybe don't go on them. Eliminate perceived negativity (including me).

"So part of what you said is you confirming that a M2F trans woman is still a man yet further down in your diatribe you also say that you wouldn't have sex with a F2M trans man because they're now a man even though they were born a woman.

So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man?

I hate these fucking threads."

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By *ilffadMan
over a year ago

swansea

Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

all down to personal opinion really, i wouldn't be with a trans lady but that is a personal choice if i was to be with a trans woman i would consider myself in a gay relationship, hope it doesn't offend as i'm not really that desirable myself so i doubt anyone is missing out due to my personal views.

My partner is totally different in her opinion one guy she loves talking to on here is either trans or TV i struggle to tell the difference. perhaps i should put her to the test, get done up in her club gear and see the reaction, lol.

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By *ilffadMan
over a year ago

swansea

I doubt it

Wonderfully put

And now the men know they're all trans

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form?

You say trans women can't have periods or give birth, therefore they're not women. Are individuals with XX chromosomes who cannot menstruate, conceive or give birth not female? Is possessing a functional uterus that bleeds monthly the defining feature of being a woman?

If that's your attitude, then it's rather reductionary. If I have my uterus removed, or it ceases to function, or indeed, never functions, that does not mean I am not female. Possession of a functional uterus is not essential to being a woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you all do look lovely on here no questioning that i think for ultra straight guys(lol) it's more a personal block due to age and the era grown up in, but yeah there are loads of trans women about who are very attractive with a nice shape that newsreader had me i didn't know she was trans very pretty reminds me of amanda holden and if amanda done les dennis i reckon all us average guys stand a chance... les dennis

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

brava xxx

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

My friend had her uterus removed due to cancer. She's still a woman ... This is just silliness

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

Oh OK I see, I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarification. Aren't sign posts huge not labels in essence hahaha

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

Awww OK sorry for the misunderstanding. I agree

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By *tead88Man
over a year ago

nine elms

Not at all, I’m straight but I absolutely adore trans. Attraction is a weird thing, you can’t choose it, but I find trans very hot, but I’m attracted to the feminine side of them (I think)

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By *oddess NailaWoman
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

I’ve only had meaningful interaction with one trans-woman and while she is still pre op in my mind she’s a woman.

However I will admit I don’t quite understand why men still chose to label them self as ‘straight’ on fab while looking TV/TS. If the body you are playing with is masculine are you truly straight?

This is me asking a questions because it’s not something I know enough about but would like to understand.

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By *ilffadMan
over a year ago

swansea

Oh dear, reductionary?

At no point have I been disparaging. I have been factual. I'm not trying to gain favour by supporting views.

As for attitudes, again, I have not presented an attitude but a view and scientific fact.

As for your premis that if you have your uterus removed, are you less of a woman, well of course no because you had one in the first place. No trans woman ever has a uterus.

As for putting it back to original form, are you seriously saying to go back to a pre-embryonic stage? Bizarre

Oh dear

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"I’ve only had meaningful interaction with one trans-woman and while she is still pre op in my mind she’s a woman.

This is me asking a questions because it’s not something I know enough about but would like to understand. "

Straight because they're attracted to female presenting. As for playing with masculine parts many women use strap ons and peg their straight partners. Our strap ons are just attached more securely haha

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By *orthcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle

"I’ve only had meaningful interaction with one trans-woman and while she is still pre op in my mind she’s a woman.

This is me asking a questions because it’s not something I know enough about but would like to understand. "

You say you don't understand why men label themselves as straight on fab but look at TV/TS, but also say you have had a meaningful interaction with a trans-woman and that she's a woman in your mind, however on your profile you're labelled as 'straight', now I am confused! x

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By *ookingforfun9970Man
over a year ago

nearby

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

I’m bi and I definitely fancy trans women, if a straight guy does then that doesn’t mean he’s gay, in my eyes he’s straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you want to widen the topic a little i think there has been a few guys really taking the piss and that has left a dark cloud over the trans people as a whole the main one being that idiot in Canada they seem to be more interested in suing people for discrimination when it's obvious they provoked a response, and that MMA fight with the ex special forces trans lady, bit wrong that it was a total miss-match. i don't like MMA so that was even more brutal than mma usually is,amateur three round boxing would be a fairer match. there are a lot of sports where mixed genders could compete i just don't think MMA is one of them.

not on topic but it would be interesting to hear from trans people themselves on the subject of traditional roles now being mixed and if there is a area that is still strictly mens and womens with no mixed competition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of my fantasies is an orgy with a shemale and another girl! Hell I have lots of sexual fantasies about everyone! Doesn’t mean I’m gay, just means you are open to horny and sexual activities no matter what ‘sex’ is involved!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form?

But hey, at least HE HAS A GCSE IN BIOLOGY ….… and I’m truly deceased

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form?

But hey, at least HE HAS A GCSE IN BIOLOGY ….… and I’m truly deceased

Why did you have to put grealish in your name

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Congratulation on being the first to troll.

At no point did I say that a grand person is always a man. That would actually be ridiculous.

Again, I've not said anything untrue so if you hate these threads, maybe don't go on them. Eliminate perceived negativity (including me).

So by your reckoning, anyone who is trans is always a man?

I hate these fucking threads."

Fuck !!!

I love been the first !!

No point me hanging around so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"you all do look lovely on here no questioning that i think for ultra straight guys(lol) it's more a personal block due to age and the era grown up in, but yeah there are loads of trans women about who are very attractive with a nice shape that newsreader had me i didn't know she was trans very pretty reminds me of amanda holden and if amanda done les dennis i reckon all us average guys stand a chance... les dennis

The super straights

… think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form?

But hey, at least HE HAS A GCSE IN BIOLOGY ….… and I’m truly deceased

Why did you have to put grealish in your name

Because he’s my husband!!!!! X got a huge rock on my finger

didn’t you know?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The super straights

… think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that

Tiktok?

Wouldn’t know I’m not 12 and can’t dance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The super straights

… think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that

Tiktok?

Wouldn’t know I’m not 12 and can’t dance "

He's 13 and those are stick on tattoos time to bam him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The super straights

… think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that

to be honest love i would have no problem dating you all petite and cute as you are

hell, you would be like a trophy stood next to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The super straights

… think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that

Tiktok?

Wouldn’t know I’m not 12 and can’t dance

He's 13 and those are stick on tattoos time to bam him

Good one !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh dear, reductionary?

At no point have I been disparaging. I have been factual. I'm not trying to gain favour by supporting views.

As for attitudes, again, I have not presented an attitude but a view and scientific fact.

As for your premis that if you have your uterus removed, are you less of a woman, well of course no because you had one in the first place. No trans woman ever has a uterus.

As for putting it back to original form, are you seriously saying to go back to a pre-embryonic stage? Bizarre

Oh dear

Nobody here is claiming to be a biological anything. Even after operations and no matter how passable some may look!

Having said that, as you mention MTF… you wouldn’t be attracted to them because they would look like a man, act like a man… have a beard, have muscles. But most importantly a MALE BRAIN (it’s kinda what makes him a him really) Etc and surely that’s not what attracts you to BIOLOGICAL FEMALES. If they got a full on beard and talk like you talk… even if they might have a vagina still in between their legs for you to get in.

And I know that for the majority of men on here who have wives, if their wives said to them… I want to take testosterone and start my full transition into male. They wouldn’t be okay with that.

It’s okay to not feel attraction to trans women (just be respectful tho!) but don’t come with your “basic knowledge” gathered from biology back in SCHOOL to teach us all what’s what and what’s not….

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

The super straights

… think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that

Tiktok?

Wouldn’t know I’m not 12 and can’t dance "

I don’t have tik tok but I’ve seen these little dicks needing to voice out that “I’m only attracted to biological females who look like females”

Errrr first of all , you are a tiny dick…

Second of all, none fucking cares!

Like seriously!!

but equally, someone who identifies as straight and might like a woman who’s trans. Is still just as straight if he says so.

If you don’t want to be with a trans woman just politely say “I’m sorry love, we aren’t compatible or I don’t think it’d work between us..” (I had some who couldn’t go past the notion of how I was born. Fair enough! I gracefully took the rejection without any tantrums. With some dudes I stayed friends with cos I liked them as people anyway!)

Just say any of the same shit you would say to ANY other woman u don’t feel attracted to. Jeeeebussss wept

not difficult

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Btw stickslad, my YOU wasn’t me referring to you personally. Just in general

Hope you got that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Btw stickslad, my YOU wasn’t me referring to you personally. Just in general

Hope you got that "

Course i knew that I was just kidding !!!

Besides what some Nancy’s think on here I do appreciate a good point of view but someone will always have something to say

I don’t take threads to seriously but to me your definitely getting a good point across

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

Wonderfully put

And now the men know they're all trans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

tik tok is ok some great dog videos on there.

So who else is a secret tik tok fan?

It came preloaded on my phone been addicted ever since.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Start a thread and ask if a man who identifies as straight but likes to suck a cock in a purely sexual encounter is straight or gay and you already know where that thread will go.

We can’t even agree on what ‘gay’ is, apparently. To some, it’s a very monochromatic answer and to others, it’s shrouded in all shades of grey.

All who have posted in this thread have offered their opinion and their reasons for it. They differ and it is a sign of a healthy community that they do. It is interesting to read the debates between them.

As the OP has sought an opinion, mine is that I don’t have one simply because I don’t even know what the labels are. I like someone, full stop.

I don’t think I would ever suck a cock nor be sexually attracted to a man or masculine physical traits but I haven’t lived my whole life yet. I am also not sexually attracted to very many women but women, in general, attract me. If she walks like a woman, looks like a woman, presents as a woman, I’m more likely to be attracted to her than someone who ‘walks and talks’ like a man

If she happens to be a woman that medical science has made possible to be one, I don’t think that makes the slightest difference to what I find attractive about her as a person and as a woman any more than a woman with breast implants would.

I really do mean that I don’t know what some of these labels are and yes, I’m too lazy to ‘Google’!

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By *ver the hill for fabMan
over a year ago

LONDON

No you are not gay been with guys BJ ONLY been with Tvs ts crossdressers full sex absolutely love female's love to meet up with the ladies for a good long sleazy session

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Yes, I did GCSE Biology as well

All a male to female trans person does with surgery is return the tissue to it's original (female) position, where it started out.

So if you know all humans start out with the female genital configuration, why the disparaging comments on the fact post op trans woman have their genitals put back to the original form?

But hey, at least HE HAS A GCSE IN BIOLOGY ….… and I’m truly deceased

Why did you have to put grealish in your name

Because he’s my husband!!!!! X got a huge cock on my finger

didn’t you know?

Nope

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"Oh dear, reductionary?

At no point have I been disparaging. I have been factual. I'm not trying to gain favour by supporting views.

As for attitudes, again, I have not presented an attitude but a view and scientific fact.

As for your premis that if you have your uterus removed, are you less of a woman, well of course no because you had one in the first place. No trans woman ever has a uterus.

As for putting it back to original form, are you seriously saying to go back to a pre-embryonic stage? Bizarre

Oh dear

Nobody here is claiming to be a biological anything. Even after operations and no matter how passable some may look!

And I know that for the majority of men on here who have wives, if their wives said to them… I want to take testosterone and start my full transition into male. They wouldn’t be okay with that.

THIS... ALL THIS!

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

I dunno? It seems more complicated than just a yes or no answer

There’s trans on here that are so ultra feminine I think you’d be gay to not fancy them

However if I said I was trans and a guy was still interested I’d think he was gay

I think it’s a case by case kinda thing. But either way, fuck labels, fuckkkk who you want

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I dunno? It seems more complicated than just a yes or no answer

There’s trans on here that are so ultra feminine I think you’d be gay to not fancy them

However if I said I was trans and a guy was still interested I’d think he was gay

I think it’s a case by case kinda thing. But either way, fuck labels, fuckkkk who you want "

When you free

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"I dunno? It seems more complicated than just a yes or no answer

There’s trans on here that are so ultra feminine I think you’d be gay to not fancy them

However if I said I was trans and a guy was still interested I’d think he was gay

I think it’s a case by case kinda thing. But either way, fuck labels, fuckkkk who you want

When you free "

Now bby I’ll put the kettle on

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By *ck BasswardsMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness….

Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour….

I often experience profiles, males or conversations where self confessed straight men entertain same sex interactions let alone what is being talked about in this thread…. Now for me, if this is something you are willing to partake in at minimum you are bi-curious not straight, i find the statement of “im straight, but i’d play with a man” as a contradiction in terms, that being said, as i said earlier each to their own, i just think “own it” duuude….

However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human

Lets be honest we all have a friend that has sent us a video of a fucking stunning woman… then “boing” into eyeshot comes the (quite frankly emasculatingly large appendage fleshpencil) i can appreciate the aesthetic value, without any inclination to want to act on it….

I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women

Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not”

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over a year ago

"It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness….

Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour….

However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human

I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women

Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not”

Just want to point out that for a lot of trans women, showing off the OG can be rather painful (some do for the £)

Some are comfortable with it, some are not …to the point that going for SRS (so have a surgically made beautiful foof) is the only solution.

Personally speaking, every man that has been with me NEVER EVER asked to have any interaction with the part I was sadly given at birth… as it makes me extremely dysphoric. (And In that sense ..I’m still virgin till I get my main op)

The men Ive had something with, were with me because they see/saw a woman x end of the story

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

There are some hot trans women who I'd gladly spend time with (Mrs grealish

)

However that doesn't mean I'd head into the toilets with big Dave from the pub. The attraction just isn't there. Sorry big Dave.

It's a spectrum but some people think it's black and white.

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By *ck BasswardsMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness….

Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour….

However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human

I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women

Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not”

Just want to point out that for a lot of trans women, showing off the OG can be rather painful (some do for the £)

Some are comfortable with it, some are not …to the point that going for SRS (so have a surgically made beautiful foof) is the only solution.

The men Ive had something with, were with me because they see/saw a woman x end of the story

Pardon my ignorance, please educate me :/

OG? SRS?

Sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness….

Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour….

However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human

I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women

Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not”

Just want to point out that for a lot of trans women, showing off the OG can be rather painful (some do for the £)

Some are comfortable with it, some are not …to the point that going for SRS (so have a surgically made beautiful foof) is the only solution.

The men Ive had something with, were with me because they see/saw a woman x end of the story

You causing trouble again ???

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

As I see it, this discussion is very much people trying to place sexuality into boxes and to make a binary definition, whereas sexuality is fluid and for the vast majority (contrary to assertions) is in shades of grey.

Trans women are women. I will say though, if you’re so concerned about what is between their legs and it’s causing you to question your sexuality, then perhaps that sexuality needs examining, irrespective of the partners gender?

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By *ck BasswardsMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"There are some hot trans women who I'd gladly spend time with (Mrs grealish

)

However that doesn't mean I'd head into the toilets with big Dave from the pub. The attraction just isn't there. Sorry big Dave.

It's a spectrum but some people think it's black and white. "

Hahahahahahaha “awwww poor big dave”

*big dave sat at home in his room in his pants just smashed the fuck out of his pc with a cricket bat*

hahaha “fuuuuuuuck”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It should also be noted that there is a difference between being able to acknowledge attraction and an inclination or propensity to act upon the aforementioned sensory awareness….

Now firstly id like to say i agree on “fuck labels”, classifications and judgement…. Do as you please, life is too short, and each to their own is my general demeanour….

However as a straight club goer, who is friends with and had many conversations with a preop trans lady…. I think judgement causes pain, who are we to do said judging, we are all human

I can only give my honest personal opinion and as a straight male i wouldnt be inclined to want to play with any male, bi etc or preop or postop women

Everyone is different, “black and white…. sexuality is not”

Just want to point out that for a lot of trans women, showing off the OG can be rather painful (some do for the £)

Some are comfortable with it, some are not …to the point that going for SRS (so have a surgically made beautiful foof) is the only solution.

The men Ive had something with, were with me because they see/saw a woman x end of the story

You causing trouble again ???

Ehhh DUUUUH. Troublemaker is my middle name

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your a beautiful lady ? answer to question mind your own business ha love everyone no matter what there ideas and thoughts are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The super straights

… think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that

I think super straight started on Reddit and spread to TT and Twitter. I thought that was more about reclaiming gay as same sex attracted not same gender attracted as Stonewall now define it. But I just saw it in passing tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t fancy men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As I see it, this discussion is very much people trying to place sexuality into boxes and to make a binary definition, whereas sexuality is fluid and for the vast majority (contrary to assertions) is in shades of grey.

To be fair if some guy was very keen to whats between a trans woman’s legs … then I’d say it kinda needs to be addressed/questioned.

It certainly would be a no from me dawgggg x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t fancy men

Oh there he is . We were waiting for you, why so freaking late?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The super straights

… think there was this movement on tik tok (I mean are they even still around??!) who labelled themselves that

To be fair I’ve heard some right crap on the Internet including James Charles saying he’s not actually 100% gay because he’s attracted to trans men

‘Kiiiiin elllllll

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

‘Identifying as’ is a red herring. I don’t identify as female; I am female.

I was born female but I had a horrendous deformity.

The people attracted to me aren’t attracted because they’re gay, they see tits and ass and want to fuck my pussy. Ass. Mouth…. You get my drift

Someone mentioned an ‘interesting article’ earlier where lesbians were saying they were being coerced into sleeping with trans women…. That article used an anti trans group as the test subjects for the ‘research’. 80% of gay women have not been pressured to sleep with trans women.

I’m a trans woman and want to get one last red herring out of the way; I know I’ll never be a cis woman. I know there will always be differences and that cuts me to the bone. I’m not claiming to be equal to cis women. I’m female inside. I was brought up to try to act male and my body/face has sustained damage from the presence of testosterone for many years. I can’t undo all of that.

I also know I’m more feminine than any woman I’ve ever had a relationship with. I was attracted to them for their masculinity not their femininity. Being pretty and girl shaped didn’t make them feminine.

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By *oddess NailaWoman
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

"I’ve only had meaningful interaction with one trans-woman and while she is still pre op in my mind she’s a woman.

This is me asking a questions because it’s not something I know enough about but would like to understand.

My interaction with her was always work related, nothing to do with sex or fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t fancy men

Oh there he is . We were waiting for you, why so freaking late?

Been busy perving

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I dunno? It seems more complicated than just a yes or no answer

There’s trans on here that are so ultra feminine I think you’d be gay to not fancy them

However if I said I was trans and a guy was still interested I’d think he was gay

I think it’s a case by case kinda thing. But either way, fuck labels, fuckkkk who you want

When you free

Now bby I’ll put the kettle on "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure but I’m not putting myself In a pigeon hole. I likes what I likes

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Not sure but I’m not putting myself In a pigeon hole. I likes what I likes

Xxx

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

If I see beauty in a person. Regardless of gender I will tell that person.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"If I see beauty in a person. Regardless of gender I will tell that person. "

Thanks

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Of course not. I like women but I’m not gay.

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…

As a female presenting trans woman who considers herself female, would you entertain the idea of intimate relations with a man who didn’t consider you female? He might be very genuinely attracted to you, perhaps even want to date, but considered himself bi because of his attraction to you. Would that put you off?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure it would mean one was Gay, I guess it's how they relate to their gender, but then it opens up the question about being pansexual. Maybe fab should open the listings of just being straight/gay boot curious up a little for other options to list

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"Of course not. I like women but I’m not gay. "

It’s the thought that it’s either or that makes me

too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does fancying a woman make you a gay man? I’d think not.

If you’re a man who seeks trans women hoping they have a penis you can touch, then I’d suggest you’re bi.

Men attracted to femininity clearly aren’t gay. They may be bi though.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"Does fancying a woman make you a gay man? I’d think not.

If you’re a man who seeks trans women hoping they have a penis you can touch, then I’d suggest you’re bi.

Men attracted to femininity clearly aren’t gay. They may be bi though. "

Agreed.

There always seems to be so much panic from certain straight men about what specific acts do or don’t make you a different sexuality. Being gay or bi isn’t a stain on your life!

News flash; sex acts don’t change your sexuality, they might reveal it but you already were that before

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

I think Racheal and Tea both sum things up really well

You’re attracted to femininity. Don’t panic or try to hide away from it. Embrace it and be happy!

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

I don’t like generalisations and pigeon-holing. I find it absolutely pointless. Attempts to say “well if you do this then you fit into this near category...” ... why do I need to be categorised?

If I find someone attractive, I find someone attractive, and that includes a very broad range of people based on my experiences I’ve the last 3 decades or so.

Does that include t’s? Absolutely! Does that make me gay? I don’t think so, and don’t care if it means that someone else thinks I’m gay. That just doesn’t matter to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

I think it’s a subjective question I. Relation to it’s how the person you asks perceive sexuality, gender, and labels etc.

I wish we could all just forget names for sexuality and live to be free as we want with who we want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've learnt a lot lately and do you know what, I'm miles away from the person I once was years ago. I don't label people at all now and if I like them then I like them. If I like a trans person because I think they look great then so what

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

We can. We learnt to be this way. Most ancient civilisations were a lot more free with their notions of gender and sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…

It’d be a problem for me if he didn’t see me as a woman/female yes.

I don’t give a shit if he’s bisexual or bi curious or if he labels himself as straight.

All I’m saying is that majority (like 90%) of the men who took interest in me label themselves as straight. (And a good amount of these men, admitted Im their first as well)

The rest are openly bisexual

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…

It’d be a problem for me if he didn’t see me as a woman/female yes.

I don’t give a shit if he’s bisexual or bi curious or if he labels himself as straight.

All I’m saying is that majority (like 90%) of the men who took interest in me label themselves as straight. (And a good amount of these men, admitted Im their first as well)

The rest are openly bisexual

I thought that would be the answer. Thanks for sharing

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…

Yes that would put me off because I am female inside and now working on the outside now that I've climbed that wall of hate and bitterness. I am not a man so if someone viewed me as such then that means he doesn't see me. So yeah it would affect it most definitely

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There

"NOOOOOOO...I get a lot of straight guys messaging me asking this and my answer is no. As a female presenting trans woman, it doesn't make you gay (not that there's a single thing wrong with that

)

I'm a woman, do I look like a man? Some might be facetious and say yes ha...

What are all your opinions?

Reading through the thread it’s thrown up a question for me…

I understand. Thanks for sharing

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Apologies not read the full thread, but to answer your question it’s a No. you’re not gay if you’re attracted to a trans person, male or female.

There are people who see those as they are and are happy to date them in a heterosexual manner.

I get fed up of people telling others what they are, all that matters is what you think you are and what a potential partner also agrees that’s how they see you.

The future brings all sorts of possibilities for growth especially around sexuality and gender recognition. More people are accepting these days, open to new ideas and that should be embraced.

Good luck with yours Op, we all deserve to be happy and loved.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Apologies not read the full thread, but to answer your question it’s a No. you’re not gay if you’re attracted to a trans person, male or female.

There are people who see those as they are and are happy to date them in a heterosexual manner.

I get fed up of people telling others what they are, all that matters is what you think you are and what a potential partner also agrees that’s how they see you.

The future brings all sorts of possibilities for growth especially around sexuality and gender recognition. More people are accepting these days, open to new ideas and that should be embraced.

Good luck with yours Op, we all deserve to be happy and loved.

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. I’m open to everything and I’m not judging people by what or who they want to be.

It is their choice and I fully support it.

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By *atsdatkdesiresWoman
over a year ago

gosport

I don’t think you should put labels on people

Just do what you want in the bedroom

No problem

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Am I a man or a woman in this scenario ?

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

No most gay men don't go for t girls. I'd class them as bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aren't these the kind of people who say that a man wearing a pink shirt is gay. Or a man talking about his feelings is gay. Or a man who accidentally brushed his hand against another man in a crowd is gay. Or a man who treats women like human beings rather than as fuck toys ... is gay.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Am I a man or a woman in this scenario ?"

It all depends if you still have your uterus, Granny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"‘Identifying as’ is a red herring. I don’t identify as female; I am female.

I was born female but I had a horrendous deformity.

The people attracted to me aren’t attracted because they’re gay, they see tits and ass and want to fuck my pussy. Ass. Mouth…. You get my drift

********

Ummmm..... you are equal though?? You're a woman and a human, why does this not make you equal??

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By *xciter7169Man
over a year ago

The Midlands

"There are some hot trans women who I'd gladly spend time with (Mrs grealish

)

However that doesn't mean I'd head into the toilets with big Dave from the pub. The attraction just isn't there. Sorry big Dave.

It's a spectrum but some people think it's black and white. "

Spectrum or Speculum?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Am I a man or a woman in this scenario ?

It all depends if you still have your uterus, Granny

I have but what if I didn't and didn't have a knob ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Genetics are genetics,

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By *oyRoy06Man
over a year ago

leighton buzzard

Personally i think it's down to the individual to how they feel about their sexuality.

Personally i think the fact they have to ask is the (from what i've seen/experienced predominantly in my own social circles) social attitude that men must conform to either the straight or gay camp ... it seems like it's less accepted for men to be as flexible when it comes to their sexuality; (again, commenting on mostly observations in my own life experiences)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's a few trans woman I've fancied, some I still do & in the past a couple I've had some intimate times with, admittedly with an ex, but I'm not gay!

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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago

Dublin

There is only two genders, female and male...you feel and dress like a woman but your gender is male and guys who attract you are bi curious or bisex...they could be straight also just eager for new adventures

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is only two genders, female and male...you feel and dress like a woman but your gender is male and guys who attract you are bi curious or bisex...they could be straight also just eager for new adventures "

Thanks so much for providing us with this incredible educational lesson. I shall be forever grateful for your contribution

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

So you've just completely invalidated transgender people? Ugh what year is it!?

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

Thanks so much for providing us with this incredible educational lesson. I shall be forever grateful for your contribution

Your sarcasm just gives me life girl ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just had a thought, if you are a trans woman and fancy another trans woman, what then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks so much for providing us with this incredible educational lesson. I shall be forever grateful for your contribution

Your sarcasm just gives me life girl ha "

I’m literally done

I cantttttt anymore!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just had a thought, if you are a trans woman and fancy another trans woman, what then?"

Well apparently according to some of the professors in this thread. It’s just a gay couple pretending to be nancies

Who am I to object all these researchers and doctors on here? X

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By *immikat OP Woman
over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"Genetics are genetics,

Hahahahaha that's all I can manage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just had a thought, if you are a trans woman and fancy another trans woman, what then?

Well apparently according to some of the professors in this thread. It’s just a gay couple pretending to be nancies

Who am I to object all these researchers and doctors on here? X

I always trust those more educated than myself, it's good to know one's failings so we can better ourselves

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Am I a man or a woman in this scenario ?

It all depends if you still have your uterus, Granny

I have but what if I didn't and didn't have a knob ?"

Then you are probably a fungus, Granny. Perhaps a little yeasty number?

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Genetics are genetics,

I see. And the answer to the headline question?

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"Genetics are genetics,

Brexit is Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Genetics are genetics,

I see. And the answer to the headline question? "

That’s all you are getting from mystique Meg!! Don’t be greedy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

very brave of you to share such a strong opinion from behind a silhouette. the trans people on here are very nice, MS G especially. if you are that convinced you are right then it's not an opinion worth sharing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You tend to research the heck out of things that affect your life and become an expert on your own subject.

The media enjoy stirring up the public, feeding them misinformation, triggering people to think they know all about the subject when in fact they know stuff all about it.

We were all brought up to believe gender and genitals are intrinsically linked but science is proving that isn’t the case.

Without an open mind to listen to the scientific facts it’s easy to just listen to the media taking the piss and go along with what we were taught as children.

There is also a rather nasty human trait that makes us want to belong to a group and enjoy being foul to minority groups we don’t understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. But I don't think it matters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes. But I don't think it matters "

Why would you think a man who’s attracted to someone feminine be gay?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going against the grain, but I've gotta say yes. Pre or post op, there's no getting away from certain masculine traits. You can usually tell at the slightest of glances they're a man.

Don't jump on him because he offers an opinion that differs to the majority.

There is only one person who has posted on this thread that now identifies as a woman that if I saw them in real life I'd not know was assigned as a male at birth, possibly two.

Frank "

You're not allowed a different opinion on this matter. Did you not get the memo?

I don't care who people sleep with. I don't care how people identify.

There are some extremely beautiful transwomen (pre or post op) with bodies I would die for. But if I meet someone in person I can almost always tell if they are a biological man.

It's none of my business how people live their lives and I'm not particularly interested either. But to suggest that transwomen and women are the same thing is incorrect. And sex is observed at birth, not assigned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sexuality is actually a thing that is made up by humans. There are quite a lot of species out there that actually have sex with both sexes.

I don't personally think it makes anybody gay to be attracted to trans people. I've not actually experienced it myself but I can't say that I'd be against the idea.

There are actually some trans ladies that would give your average lady a run for their money lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He didn't say anyone wasn't nice. He expressed an opinion.

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