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"Okay so I’ve been thinking for months about getting a kitten, either a rag doll, Himalayan or Birman. Aside from the initial cost £700 to a grand what am I looking at in terms of annual upkeep? This will be a house cat only but will take it out on a lead and let it go in the garden only with myself and my daughter. I love cats and my daughter has this unreal connection with animals, all animals seem to love her. She’s beyond kind and gentle with animals plus she’s 12 so not exactly gonna be ragging it around. What should I look for in dealers and what age is a genuine age that they can be sold (as kittens)? What would they already have had done? I know I’ll have to register him with my vet straight away. (I want a male). I work night shifts as well but only 2 a week now so will be be okay on his own for 12 hours overnight from kitten age or will I have to take him to my mums with my daughter overnight? " Look at pets4homes - they offer great advice regarding breeders and what to look out for in a breeder. The adverts will also tell you about the home they come from. Ask to see mum and dad cat. They will also tell you what you can expect from them should you purchase one of their kittens - vaccinated (how many) or not, some give you the kitten food they're used to, toys or not, even a blanket in some cases. Then you need to neuter and microchip your cat (even if indoor in case of escapes). Prices of vaccinations, neutering and microchipping will vary. Hope this helps | |||
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"Go to a rescue centre. " I’m with this all day long! And they will also offer some great advice! Miss pc | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. " Ragdoll Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy Outline: Approximately 30% of Ragdoll cats have a genetic mutation that makes it likely that they will develop hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (thickening of the muscle walls of the heart). Over time this condition leads to heart failure and/or other complications such as increased risk of blockage of major blood vessels by blood clots. Heart failure causes increasing discomfort and malaise in affected animals which can occur over a prolonged period. Blockage of blood vessels causes severe pain. Rescue an abandoned cat instead. | |||
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"Okay so I’ve been thinking for months about getting a kitten, either a rag doll, Himalayan or Birman. Aside from the initial cost £700 to a grand what am I looking at in terms of annual upkeep? This will be a house cat only but will take it out on a lead and let it go in the garden only with myself and my daughter. I love cats and my daughter has this unreal connection with animals, all animals seem to love her. She’s beyond kind and gentle with animals plus she’s 12 so not exactly gonna be ragging it around. What should I look for in dealers and what age is a genuine age that they can be sold (as kittens)? What would they already have had done? I know I’ll have to register him with my vet straight away. (I want a male). I work night shifts as well but only 2 a week now so will be be okay on his own for 12 hours overnight from kitten age or will I have to take him to my mums with my daughter overnight? Look at pets4homes - they offer great advice regarding breeders and what to look out for in a breeder. The adverts will also tell you about the home they come from. Ask to see mum and dad cat. They will also tell you what you can expect from them should you purchase one of their kittens - vaccinated (how many) or not, some give you the kitten food they're used to, toys or not, even a blanket in some cases. Then you need to neuter and microchip your cat (even if indoor in case of escapes). Prices of vaccinations, neutering and microchipping will vary. Hope this helps" Pets at home, unless you get a really good individual employee, are crap for advice on pets. Just look at the shitty small cages/hutches/runs they sell. | |||
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"Okay so I’ve been thinking for months about getting a kitten, either a rag doll, Himalayan or Birman. Aside from the initial cost £700 to a grand what am I looking at in terms of annual upkeep? This will be a house cat only but will take it out on a lead and let it go in the garden only with myself and my daughter. I love cats and my daughter has this unreal connection with animals, all animals seem to love her. She’s beyond kind and gentle with animals plus she’s 12 so not exactly gonna be ragging it around. What should I look for in dealers and what age is a genuine age that they can be sold (as kittens)? What would they already have had done? I know I’ll have to register him with my vet straight away. (I want a male). I work night shifts as well but only 2 a week now so will be be okay on his own for 12 hours overnight from kitten age or will I have to take him to my mums with my daughter overnight? Look at pets4homes - they offer great advice regarding breeders and what to look out for in a breeder. The adverts will also tell you about the home they come from. Ask to see mum and dad cat. They will also tell you what you can expect from them should you purchase one of their kittens - vaccinated (how many) or not, some give you the kitten food they're used to, toys or not, even a blanket in some cases. Then you need to neuter and microchip your cat (even if indoor in case of escapes). Prices of vaccinations, neutering and microchipping will vary. Hope this helps Pets at home, unless you get a really good individual employee, are crap for advice on pets. Just look at the shitty small cages/hutches/runs they sell. " Pets4homes is not pets at home. | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. Ragdoll Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy Outline: Approximately 30% of Ragdoll cats have a genetic mutation that makes it likely that they will develop hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (thickening of the muscle walls of the heart). Over time this condition leads to heart failure and/or other complications such as increased risk of blockage of major blood vessels by blood clots. Heart failure causes increasing discomfort and malaise in affected animals which can occur over a prolonged period. Blockage of blood vessels causes severe pain. Rescue an abandoned cat instead." If I was living on my own and I wanted a cat for companion purposes I would but I want a kitten to do the whole experience with my daughter. | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. Ragdoll Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy Outline: Approximately 30% of Ragdoll cats have a genetic mutation that makes it likely that they will develop hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (thickening of the muscle walls of the heart). Over time this condition leads to heart failure and/or other complications such as increased risk of blockage of major blood vessels by blood clots. Heart failure causes increasing discomfort and malaise in affected animals which can occur over a prolonged period. Blockage of blood vessels causes severe pain. Rescue an abandoned cat instead. If I was living on my own and I wanted a cat for companion purposes I would but I want a kitten to do the whole experience with my daughter. " There are rescue kittens too, many rescue cats are dumped because they're pregnant. It's worth a look | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. Ragdoll Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy Outline: Approximately 30% of Ragdoll cats have a genetic mutation that makes it likely that they will develop hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (thickening of the muscle walls of the heart). Over time this condition leads to heart failure and/or other complications such as increased risk of blockage of major blood vessels by blood clots. Heart failure causes increasing discomfort and malaise in affected animals which can occur over a prolonged period. Blockage of blood vessels causes severe pain. Rescue an abandoned cat instead. If I was living on my own and I wanted a cat for companion purposes I would but I want a kitten to do the whole experience with my daughter. " Rescues have kittens. | |||
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"Okay so I’ve been thinking for months about getting a kitten, either a rag doll, Himalayan or Birman. Aside from the initial cost £700 to a grand what am I looking at in terms of annual upkeep? This will be a house cat only but will take it out on a lead and let it go in the garden only with myself and my daughter. I love cats and my daughter has this unreal connection with animals, all animals seem to love her. She’s beyond kind and gentle with animals plus she’s 12 so not exactly gonna be ragging it around. What should I look for in dealers and what age is a genuine age that they can be sold (as kittens)? What would they already have had done? I know I’ll have to register him with my vet straight away. (I want a male). I work night shifts as well but only 2 a week now so will be be okay on his own for 12 hours overnight from kitten age or will I have to take him to my mums with my daughter overnight? Look at pets4homes - they offer great advice regarding breeders and what to look out for in a breeder. The adverts will also tell you about the home they come from. Ask to see mum and dad cat. They will also tell you what you can expect from them should you purchase one of their kittens - vaccinated (how many) or not, some give you the kitten food they're used to, toys or not, even a blanket in some cases. Then you need to neuter and microchip your cat (even if indoor in case of escapes). Prices of vaccinations, neutering and microchipping will vary. Hope this helps Pets at home, unless you get a really good individual employee, are crap for advice on pets. Just look at the shitty small cages/hutches/runs they sell. " Pets4homes... It's not pets at home | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. Ragdoll Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy Outline: Approximately 30% of Ragdoll cats have a genetic mutation that makes it likely that they will develop hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (thickening of the muscle walls of the heart). Over time this condition leads to heart failure and/or other complications such as increased risk of blockage of major blood vessels by blood clots. Heart failure causes increasing discomfort and malaise in affected animals which can occur over a prolonged period. Blockage of blood vessels causes severe pain. Rescue an abandoned cat instead. If I was living on my own and I wanted a cat for companion purposes I would but I want a kitten to do the whole experience with my daughter. There are rescue kittens too, many rescue cats are dumped because they're pregnant. It's worth a look" I got a cat from a rescue home years back, said she'd just had kittens but they didn't have the kittens as she'd been dumped in a box at their door..... She then had two kittens next day!! Three for the price of one!! | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. Ragdoll Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy Outline: Approximately 30% of Ragdoll cats have a genetic mutation that makes it likely that they will develop hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (thickening of the muscle walls of the heart). Over time this condition leads to heart failure and/or other complications such as increased risk of blockage of major blood vessels by blood clots. Heart failure causes increasing discomfort and malaise in affected animals which can occur over a prolonged period. Blockage of blood vessels causes severe pain. Rescue an abandoned cat instead. If I was living on my own and I wanted a cat for companion purposes I would but I want a kitten to do the whole experience with my daughter. There are rescue kittens too, many rescue cats are dumped because they're pregnant. It's worth a look I got a cat from a rescue home years back, said she'd just had kittens but they didn't have the kittens as she'd been dumped in a box at their door..... She then had two kittens next day!! Three for the price of one!! " A similar thing happened to me! I adopted an adult female three years ago, and three days after getting her home she had just the one kitten. I named him Toofer | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. " Mines 100% moggie, he’s so laid back he’s literally horizontal and will often take a fuss over a feed. My sister has some expensive pure breed that wrecked her furniture and hides whenever they approach | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. Mines 100% moggie, he’s so laid back he’s literally horizontal and will often take a fuss over a feed. My sister has some expensive pure breed that wrecked her furniture and hides whenever they approach " Ours is just 'cat' too and the fussiest most lovable thing ever. Regulary falls asleep on your chest or head or in bed with you and wakes me up every morning with nose rubs and nibbles. I have never been a cat person but she enchants me! | |||
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"Okay so I’ve been thinking for months about getting a kitten, either a rag doll, Himalayan or Birman. Aside from the initial cost £700 to a grand what am I looking at in terms of annual upkeep? This will be a house cat only but will take it out on a lead and let it go in the garden only with myself and my daughter. I love cats and my daughter has this unreal connection with animals, all animals seem to love her. She’s beyond kind and gentle with animals plus she’s 12 so not exactly gonna be ragging it around. What should I look for in dealers and what age is a genuine age that they can be sold (as kittens)? What would they already have had done? I know I’ll have to register him with my vet straight away. (I want a male). I work night shifts as well but only 2 a week now so will be be okay on his own for 12 hours overnight from kitten age or will I have to take him to my mums with my daughter overnight? " Get a moggy from a cat shelter. More robust healthwise than specialist breeds, easier to feed and look after. | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. Ragdoll Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy Outline: Approximately 30% of Ragdoll cats have a genetic mutation that makes it likely that they will develop hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (thickening of the muscle walls of the heart). Over time this condition leads to heart failure and/or other complications such as increased risk of blockage of major blood vessels by blood clots. Heart failure causes increasing discomfort and malaise in affected animals which can occur over a prolonged period. Blockage of blood vessels causes severe pain. Rescue an abandoned cat instead." Agreed. Normal moggies are as tough as old boots, by comparison. | |||
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"Was thinking of a rag doll cross. Get the benefits of it looking lovely but the cross breed will make it more hardy and live longer. I’m not interested in wanting to breed it so don’t need a pedigree. " Whilst Ragdolls are aesthetically appealing for their cute looks, as Topsy says it’s not ideal to restrict a cat to indoors only. They are also top of the list of No.1 stolen cats because they have value. Consider the vet bills too and of course a fluffy coat will need good maintenance to ensure the cat stays clean and healthy. Still interested in a Ragdoll? | |||
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"Was thinking of a rag doll cross. Get the benefits of it looking lovely but the cross breed will make it more hardy and live longer. I’m not interested in wanting to breed it so don’t need a pedigree. Whilst Ragdolls are aesthetically appealing for their cute looks, as Topsy says it’s not ideal to restrict a cat to indoors only. They are also top of the list of No.1 stolen cats because they have value. Consider the vet bills too and of course a fluffy coat will need good maintenance to ensure the cat stays clean and healthy. Still interested in a Ragdoll? " Yep and keep it indoors where it’s safe and able to keep clean. Myself or my daughter will take it out on a lead or let it go in the garden supervised but not out for hours at a time. Less chance of it picking up fleas from grass or mixing with other cats, can’t be stolen from the street or garden, won’t be able to roll in any dead animals. Will be a pampered puss. | |||
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"I’d save your pennies and just shake a bag of dreamies out your front door so the neighbour cats come round. You get a free cat and no vets bills. You are welcome " There is a nice grey short haired cat that comes in my house in the evening sometimes and sits with me on the sofa | |||
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"Forgot to say, I feed a supermarket wet food twice per day (Felix AGAIL), and posh biscuits are down at all times for free feeding. James Wellbeloved makes very silky coats! If you’re going to splash out on one or the other, I recommend it being the dried food. Cats, man…..better than people. Good luck with your new baby. " Only two shifts a week now. I could take the kitten to my mums with my daughter when I go to work. Xmas seems a good time to buy the kitten cos I’ve 19 days off with 8 of them being after after Xmas day. | |||
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"Not sure if already mentioned but there is currently (according to my vet) a long waiting list to have animals neutered due to the backlog created by the lockdowns." I had to wait 4 weeks was all for my two boys to be booked in x x | |||
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"I like the idea of these breeds because 1) they’re gorgeous and 2) they seem to be the most chilled and relaxed and wants cuddles and fuss. " If you’re getting a kitten, they will be socialised to you and be happy with the attention. An older cat has already developed its behaviour so might not like being given lots of cuddles etc but that’s true for any breed. I wouldn’t take a kitten before 12 weeks - they need time with their mum and siblings to learn and helps their behaviour long term. Rag dolls need a lot of grooming, brushing, cleaning their fur if any toilet mistakes happen which they will. I’m my experience, pure breeds are more of a commitment that regard. I’d always try recuse if possible, there are alot of homeless cats and paying that kind of money to a breeder is a bit problematic with regards to the welfare of the mother. If you do go with a breeder, visit them check the care and conditions for the animals. Most are legit and caring people but a lot are not. Also there are a lot of scammers, so best do the homework. But it’s your choice obviously. Best thing to do is look on cat protection site for advice, read as much as you can about caring for felines and if you choose a pure breed that particular breeds needs. I would say alot of cat breeder sites can be misleading so speak to a vet or cat protection. Good luck and hope it goes well Proud dad to 3 cats here | |||
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"Forgot to say, I feed a supermarket wet food twice per day (Felix AGAIL), and posh biscuits are down at all times for free feeding. James Wellbeloved makes very silky coats! If you’re going to splash out on one or the other, I recommend it being the dried food. Cats, man…..better than people. Good luck with your new baby. Only two shifts a week now. I could take the kitten to my mums with my daughter when I go to work. Xmas seems a good time to buy the kitten cos I’ve 19 days off with 8 of them being after after Xmas day. " Usually rescues stop rehoming late nov/early dec to avoid Xmas (usually stressful, busy times)... But private breeders might still rehome | |||
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"I'd love a Bengal cat. They look ace. " I'm not sure they would be classed an easy first pet | |||
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"I am always kinda uneasy with people choosing certain breeds because they are 'pretty' or because they are the 'in' breed Animals are not an accessory I used to have two beautiful tabby girls from the same litter Their personalities were so different - one bonded with me, one with the ex Mrs They both lived to 15-16, so a cat is certainly a commitment beyond childhood Is the cat for you or your daughter or both? cos give it 4 years and she'll be more interested in boys, off to college, maybe off to Uni and you still have a cat to look after I realise this post sounds a bit 'diggy' but it is more me using this thread as a sounding board for my thoughts on how incidental and disposable some animals become once the initial attraction and novelty has worn off To me, you enter into a relationship with a pet asking the same questions you would about a new relationship or parenthood cos I think the dynamic between you and a pet is a kind of mix between the two" Very well said | |||
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"My mums cat goes outside but for some bizarre reason he comes inside for a shit in his litter tray then goes back out He’s only allowed out when my mum is home which is first thing in the morning before she goes to work then he’s in the house during the day, he’s allowed out at tea time for a couple of hours then in when it starts to get dark. Apart from when he’s just done a poop I can never smell the litter tray. I don’t want my cat going outside on its own cos there’s a few cats around the street that fight plus the breed of cat I want requires a lot of grooming and I want to keep it clean. " Perhaps you need to consider what you're cat might want rather than just what you want. Unlike dogs, cats clean themselves and smell lovely. Kittens look lovely, but will scratch you, your daughter and your furniture, so be prepared. | |||
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"I'd love a Bengal cat. They look ace. " I have one. He’s beautiful, clever, almost human, and practically help raised my children. But Arthur is neurotic, gets stressed easily, and was a crazy man until he was about three. I wouldn’t have a Bengal again. Orientals all the way. Chatty, loving, loyal, and SO beautiful, like Egyptian sphinxes. Plus, low allergy and low shedding. All cats have poo misjudgments. I couldn’t handle long fur for this reason. | |||
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"I'd love a Bengal cat. They look ace. I have one. He’s beautiful, clever, almost human, and practically help raised my children. But Arthur is neurotic, gets stressed easily, and was a crazy man until he was about three. I wouldn’t have a Bengal again. Orientals all the way. Chatty, loving, loyal, and SO beautiful, like Egyptian sphinxes. Plus, low allergy and low shedding. All cats have poo misjudgments. I couldn’t handle long fur for this reason." My phone a screen is cracked with a black blob so my typos are ridiculous. Try again! I said, you actually look like Cleopatra so makes sense for you to have Egyptian cats! | |||
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"Was thinking of a rag doll cross. Get the benefits of it looking lovely but the cross breed will make it more hardy and live longer. I’m not interested in wanting to breed it so don’t need a pedigree. Whilst Ragdolls are aesthetically appealing for their cute looks, as Topsy says it’s not ideal to restrict a cat to indoors only. They are also top of the list of No.1 stolen cats because they have value. Consider the vet bills too and of course a fluffy coat will need good maintenance to ensure the cat stays clean and healthy. Still interested in a Ragdoll? Yep and keep it indoors where it’s safe and able to keep clean. Myself or my daughter will take it out on a lead or let it go in the garden supervised but not out for hours at a time. Less chance of it picking up fleas from grass or mixing with other cats, can’t be stolen from the street or garden, won’t be able to roll in any dead animals. Will be a pampered puss. " My cats get to roam wherever they want. So summers mean long days outside, exploring and hunting, sunning themselves, kipping in bushes. and breaking into neighbours houses. Do they get fleas and ticks? Rarely. Do they get wet and need to be dried? Often. Is their quality of life enhanced by being able to roam outdoors? Hell yeah! | |||
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"This isn’t a discussion about whether the cat should be outdoors or not. I specifically want a breed of cat that is notoriously lazy, chilled and likes to be fussed and cuddled. It will have time outdoors but supervised. If I’m having it from kitten it will be used to living in the house with us and just going outside with us. " If you have a cat that is desperate to go outside, nothing you can do will dissuade it so be ready to spend its and your life worrying about open doors and windows. I think all we are nudging you to think about is that a cat has natural behaviours and instincts and you are considering stopping them from being the animal they are. If you want it to stay indoors for 12-15 years, you'll need to recreate its natural habitat and provide prey, climbing and hiding places and companionship from another animal. My personal view is that placing a harness and lead on a cat is incredibly cruel. Cats are awsome creatures, I hope you and your daughter find the perfect match, don't forget that the cat is always in charge! | |||
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