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By *erry bull1 OP Man
over a year ago

doncaster

Under new guidelines , the powers that be plan to end the use and installation of all gas heaters boilers etc within 15 years , what are your thoughts on this ?

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

The plan is actually to stop the installation of new gas boilers from 2035 either in new build or existing houses.

There are no plans at present to ban the use of existing gas boilers after that date, no doubt there will be pressure to encourage people to replace their existing boilers though.

Be prepared for the high pressure salesmen offering heat pump systems.

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By *dward_TeagueMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

It’s a start but it’s not enough.

The £450m that they’ve set aside will only provide about 90,000 heat pumps so that’s enough for a medium sized town.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Probably the cola fire faze out will be first in 2023

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Under new guidelines , the powers that be plan to end the use and installation of all gas heaters boilers etc within 15 years , what are your thoughts on this ? "

Well according to what it says online, heat pumps operate less efficiently in lower temperatures and even in parts of America where they are used more, they still have a hybrid system by using a heat pump and a gas boiler.

So I can hardly see them being suitable for our climate. But there may be more about them I have not read. It would be interesting to see their operating specs and such.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Under new guidelines , the powers that be plan to end the use and installation of all gas heaters boilers etc within 15 years , what are your thoughts on this ? "

As other posters have clarified, the cut-off isn’t as definitive as that. We won’t have to all rip out our boilers.

But as with other ideas like electric cars. It’s all about the viability of the alternatives. If it is easy and cheap for people to abandon their boilers, they are more likely to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plumbers will have to start plumbing again and not fitting gas boilers with tremendous mark ups

It sometimes seems you can't get a simple job done these days - every trade wants to upsell you something

A leak - oh you need a new bathroom

A faulty boiler - oh you need a new one

I think sites like trust-a-trader and rated people have altered the approach to traditional trades so much that unless you actually know someone (or are very lucky) you are going to pay through the nose for pretty much everything

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By *razytimesinloveCouple
over a year ago

SW Scotland

"Under new guidelines , the powers that be plan to end the use and installation of all gas heaters boilers etc within 15 years , what are your thoughts on this ?

So I can hardly see them being suitable for our climate. But there may be more about them I have not read. It would be interesting to see their operating specs and such. "

They do drop in efficiency when temps drop down as the outdoor unit generates a fair amount of ice during cold temps and has to defrost itself, although manufacturers have come a long way in minimizing this.

That said it’s only air source ones that suffer from this and it only gets bad down past -5 last time I worked on them.

The bad press they’ve been getting lately is down to having undersized units sold, not the fault of the units at all.

Most new builds will move to stuff like mechanical ventilation heat recovery as the houses are so well insulated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is interesting. I hadn’t heard about it. I live in an old Georgian flat, with traditional radiators and a temperamental old boiler. I spend a fortune on gas in particular, as the system is sluggish and inefficient. I would welcome a change from this, but don’t know anything about the alternatives. And what would happen to the (gas) utilities companies?

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By *urvyBi-84Man
over a year ago

Lancs

My issue is twofold - cost and space.

It is reported that the Government will offer grants of up to £5,000 to people to install heat pumps, but heat pumps can cost upwards of £10,000 to install and that assumes your house doesn’t need serious modification to install it. I can’t afford that, even with a grant. I will have to continue using my (new and efficient) gas boiler and gradually get penalised with higher energy prices as they try to “nudge” me away from gas, which will make me even less able to afford it.

The size bothers me too, as they often aren’t a simple swap for the boiler. I’ve seen these things, and I don’t have the space in my house for one without serious modification. What am I supposed to do? Lose a chunk of one of my rooms? Build a small extension to accommodate it? Again, I can’t afford that, so I will be penalised for having to continue using gas.

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