FabSwingers.com forum: Men’s physical health

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As I’ve gotten older my physical health has become so important to me though now I’m in my mid-forties what worked in my 30’s isn’t starting to have the same impact and I know I’m not alone with this.

The forums are a great place to have open discussing so let’s have this one.

What are you guys doing as you get older to keep your physical health in order?

Vits

Supplements

Protein powders

Herbal alternatives

Let’s talk about this and not just sexual health

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple

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By *ussexualMan
over a year ago

Brighton

Running, much less alcohol, eating much more sensibly. I'm actually feeling healthier now than when I was in my 20s, 30s and 40s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same as ever, tbh. Keep active, regular exercise, good diet, and plenty of orgasms.

Have never taken any vits, supplements, etc.

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By *ack688Man
over a year ago

abruzzo Italy (and UK)

My knees have been pretty screwed for a long time so things like running aren’t great which is a shame as I used to enjoy it. I used to swim a lot but don’t have the opportunity now. I try to do a good amount of yoga/Pilates to stay flexible and walking/hiking for aerobic stuff and I just got a bicycle, though I know I should do more HIIT or something like that.

I know my blood pressure and cholesterol are risky if I have too much of the wrong foods, so I control that just with diet. Otherwise I’m pretty ok, don’t smoke, drink occasionally, I take some vitamins and supplements like fish oil if I’m feeling crappy but that’s about it. (I’m 58 by the way)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Less alcohol, better diet including more fish and veg ,glucosamine supplements for joint health, and regular hydration.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Always enjoyed fitness running gym eating healthy never been a big drinker just had no time when kids where younger but back to now take no supplements be us face cream and try to get enough sleep.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Running was my thing till my back spasmed a few year back and I've just never been able to get back into it so when I do go to the gym it's anything that can build my core, also trying swimming again.

Supplements; zinc gives me an overall boost, magnesium is good for the restless legs when it happens.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Sleep

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"My knees have been pretty screwed for a long time so things like running aren’t great which is a shame as I used to enjoy it. I used to swim a lot but don’t have the opportunity now. I try to do a good amount of yoga/Pilates to stay flexible and walking/hiking for aerobic stuff and I just got a bicycle, though I know I should do more HIIT or something like that.

Never thought of biking good outside exercise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve just hit 40 but my knees are that of an 80 years old due to excessive rugby, I don’t do as much cardio these days other than walking and the bike in the gym but doing weights helps burn the fat just as well I find.

Sensible diet proteins and fish and you’re sorted for vitamins

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look into getting a full men's health check annually.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"As I’ve gotten older my physical health has become so important to me though now I’m in my mid-forties what worked in my 30’s isn’t starting to have the same impact and I know I’m not alone with this.

The forums are a great place to have open discussing so let’s have this one.

What are you guys doing as you get older to keep your physical health in order?

Vits

Supplements

Protein powders

Herbal alternatives

Let’s talk about this and not just sexual health

It’s interesting you list nothing but quick fixes

Get your weight down to a healthy level through dieting

Perform some form of LISS cardio for minimum 150 minutes a week.

Some form of resistance training 2-3 times a week

Eat a better diet with more micronutrients

Get enough water

Get enough sleep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Testosterone levels drop the older you get, that can make you feel shitty, lethargic, low libido, excess fat around the waist ect.... might be worth getting your bloods done, make sure alls good! Then just eat healthy, exercise, get your steps in ect. And you'll feel great!

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

About 5 years ago stopped drinking beer and changed to gin.

Currently stopped drinking totally and I’m on a V-shred type diet which is losing me a lot of weight and getting my body back to what it was years ago. Cooking from scratch and eating clean food has become the norm.

It’s important to look after your body more as you get older and I also want to look my best for C too…keeping her interested in me

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple "

Is this for training or just in general?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Running, much less alcohol, eating much more sensibly. I'm actually feeling healthier now than when I was in my 20s, 30s and 40s"

I actually feel that too and want to maintain that feeling into my 50’s

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

"Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple

Is this for training or just in general? "

I run cycle and swim so it’s to help recover and strength

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Running was my thing till my back spasmed a few year back and I've just never been able to get back into it so when I do go to the gym it's anything that can build my core, also trying swimming again.

Supplements; zinc gives me an overall boost, magnesium is good for the restless legs when it happens."

I’m just starting to look at zinc as a stand alone supplement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple

Is this for training or just in general?

I run cycle and swim so it’s to help recover and strength "

Stick to a high protein diet, and make sure you get plenty of carbs on training days a d you should be fine

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Look into getting a full men's health check annually."

I do and I’m in good shape

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"About 5 years ago stopped drinking beer and changed to gin.

It’s important to look after your body more as you get older and I also want to look my best for C too…keeping her interested in me

Haha got to have motivation

What are you classing as clean eating? No processed foods?

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

"Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple

Is this for training or just in general?

I run cycle and swim so it’s to help recover and strength

Stick to a high protein diet, and make sure you get plenty of carbs on training days a d you should be fine

Low carbs as I do zone 2 training …. Before an event I eat 6 times a day all protein high… carbs aren’t needed when heart is in zone 2… got a personalised plan to manage Caroline intake and macros

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Testosterone levels drop the older you get, that can make you feel shitty, lethargic, low libido, excess fat around the waist ect.... might be worth getting your bloods done, make sure alls good! Then just eat healthy, exercise, get your steps in ect. And you'll feel great!

I run, swim, lift heavy and eat well. But I’m feeling I can take it even further as I get older

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple

Is this for training or just in general?

I run cycle and swim so it’s to help recover and strength

Stick to a high protein diet, and make sure you get plenty of carbs on training days a d you should be fine

Cant go wrong with that setup fella

Surprising how many people overlook nutrition, and then wonder why exercise alone isn't getting them to where they want to be

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple

Is this for training or just in general?

I run cycle and swim so it’s to help recover and strength

Stick to a high protein diet, and make sure you get plenty of carbs on training days a d you should be fine

Cant go wrong with that setup fella

Surprising how many people overlook nutrition, and then wonder why exercise alone isn't getting them to where they want to be

Funny that

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By *irtydevil666Man
over a year ago

bristol

If I am honest nothing.....

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Eat well

Check blood pressure

Check sugar levels

Check mood

Sleep

Drink water

Laugh

And

Be you self

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple

Is this for training or just in general?

I run cycle and swim so it’s to help recover and strength

Stick to a high protein diet, and make sure you get plenty of carbs on training days a d you should be fine

Cant go wrong with that setup fella

Surprising how many people overlook nutrition, and then wonder why exercise alone isn't getting them to where they want to be

Funny that

Food is the hardest bit..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Creatine used to be my go to but find it gives fluid retention… BCAA and Vitamin C now my staple

Is this for training or just in general?

I run cycle and swim so it’s to help recover and strength

Stick to a high protein diet, and make sure you get plenty of carbs on training days a d you should be fine

Cant go wrong with that setup fella

Surprising how many people overlook nutrition, and then wonder why exercise alone isn't getting them to where they want to be

Funny that

Food is the hardest bit..

Use an app like MyFitnessPal to help track

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I run, climb mountains and enjoy the fresh air as much as possible, I eat as healthy as I want to. But I still enjoy eating crap to. I carry lots of old injuries that give me niggles but intend to just train through them.

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By *arker secrets 321Man
over a year ago

West Bromwich

My job helps keep me in half decent shape .weight train 3 times a wk ..supplements..BCAA and CREATINE and protein shake .can eat crap but try 2 balance and eat healthy x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I stoped smoking and drinking

I started doing skate boards

I am happy the only I wish is more sex trying to find good dating apps

Or good bar and spa and club in london to go to

Any recommendation of good hotel bar to meet peopleo

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I run, climb mountains and enjoy the fresh air as much as possible, I eat as healthy as I want to. But I still enjoy eating crap to. I carry lots of old injuries that give me niggles but intend to just train through them. "

We need to get together and hit those mountains hard

while comparing beards

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My job helps keep me in half decent shape .weight train 3 times a wk ..supplements..BCAA and CREATINE and protein shake .can eat crap but try 2 balance and eat healthy x "

Do you feel like the supplements help?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I stoped smoking and drinking

I started doing skate boards

I am happy the only I wish is more sex trying to find good dating apps

Or good bar and spa and club in london to go to

Any recommendation of good hotel bar to meet peopleo "

Have a look at club reviews

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We need to get together and hit those mountains hard

while comparing beards

Haha sounds like a plan. But not alone or people will think it’s a second film for brokeback mountain

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We need to get together and hit those mountains hard

while comparing beards

I will leave my ten gallon hat at home

Haha sounds like a plan. But not alone or people will think it’s a second film for brokeback mountain

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Haribos and Viagra

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By *arker secrets 321Man
over a year ago

West Bromwich

"My job helps keep me in half decent shape .weight train 3 times a wk ..supplements..BCAA and CREATINE and protein shake .can eat crap but try 2 balance and eat healthy x

Do you feel like the supplements help? "

Honestly not sure but would av 2 stop taking them and see if my health/fitness levels drop x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My job helps keep me in half decent shape .weight train 3 times a wk ..supplements..BCAA and CREATINE and protein shake .can eat crap but try 2 balance and eat healthy x

Do you feel like the supplements help?

Honestly not sure but would av 2 stop taking them and see if my health/fitness levels drop x "

That’s my issue. I don’t know if they are improving me or it’s the placebo effect

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I stoped smoking and drinking

I started doing skate boards

I am happy the only I wish is more sex trying to find good dating apps

Or good bar and spa and club in london to go to

Any recommendation of good hotel bar to meet peopleo "

Well done xxx

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By *arker secrets 321Man
over a year ago

West Bromwich

"My job helps keep me in half decent shape .weight train 3 times a wk ..supplements..BCAA and CREATINE and protein shake .can eat crap but try 2 balance and eat healthy x

Do you feel like the supplements help?

Honestly not sure but would av 2 stop taking them and see if my health/fitness levels drop x

That’s my issue. I don’t know if they are improving me or it’s the placebo effect "

Get that but wonder if we didn't take them we couldn't maintain our levels of work/play/fitness ? X

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My job helps keep me in half decent shape .weight train 3 times a wk ..supplements..BCAA and CREATINE and protein shake .can eat crap but try 2 balance and eat healthy x

Do you feel like the supplements help?

Honestly not sure but would av 2 stop taking them and see if my health/fitness levels drop x

That’s my issue. I don’t know if they are improving me or it’s the placebo effect

Get that but wonder if we didn't take them we couldn't maintain our levels of work/play/fitness ? X "

I did stop for a while but I also stopped training so not sure if they had any effect

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By *arker secrets 321Man
over a year ago

West Bromwich

"My job helps keep me in half decent shape .weight train 3 times a wk ..supplements..BCAA and CREATINE and protein shake .can eat crap but try 2 balance and eat healthy x

Do you feel like the supplements help?

Honestly not sure but would av 2 stop taking them and see if my health/fitness levels drop x

That’s my issue. I don’t know if they are improving me or it’s the placebo effect

Get that but wonder if we didn't take them we couldn't maintain our levels of work/play/fitness ? X

I did stop for a while but I also stopped training so not sure if they had any effect"

I started back training in Jan and like how my body is responding but if we were 20 years younger would we get better results x

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

"About 5 years ago stopped drinking beer and changed to gin.

It’s important to look after your body more as you get older and I also want to look my best for C too…keeping her interested in me

Haha got to have motivation

What are you classing as clean eating? No processed foods? "

Yes no processed foods at all…meats with veg, very little carbs - for example eating home made turkey burgers wrapped in lettuce leaves rather than a bun, nuts instead of chocolate, seeds and spices in foods to keep the metabolism fired…

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

The forums are a great place to have open discussing so let’s have this one.

What are you guys doing as you get older to keep your physical health in order?

Vits

Supplements

Protein powders

Herbal alternatives

Let’s talk about this and not just sexual health

What I do is cook from fresh,what is fresh well something that has been frozen not past the period plenty of herbs natural resources a balance of vitamins from natural resources fruit and vegetables exotic a better boost and exercise whether cardiovascular, weights a combination a suburb circulation helps the body filter where everything goes that is needed I'm 48 soon 49 and physically fit in strength and stamina and Don't feel my age more like 21

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plant powered

Creatine

Vit. B12

Ubiquinol

No extra protein (only through diet)

Callisthenics (2/3 times a week)

Trail running (25-30k a week)

Regular sports

Still drink but only a small amount once a week. Coffee only first thing in the morning.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My job helps keep me in half decent shape .weight train 3 times a wk ..supplements..BCAA and CREATINE and protein shake .can eat crap but try 2 balance and eat healthy x

Do you feel like the supplements help?

Honestly not sure but would av 2 stop taking them and see if my health/fitness levels drop x

That’s my issue. I don’t know if they are improving me or it’s the placebo effect

Get that but wonder if we didn't take them we couldn't maintain our levels of work/play/fitness ? X

I did stop for a while but I also stopped training so not sure if they had any effect

I started back training in Jan and like how my body is responding but if we were 20 years younger would we get better results x "

I would still be ripped

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"About 5 years ago stopped drinking beer and changed to gin.

It’s important to look after your body more as you get older and I also want to look my best for C too…keeping her interested in me

Haha got to have motivation

What are you classing as clean eating? No processed foods?

When are you cooking again?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Plant powered

Creatine

Vit. B12

Ubiquinol

No extra protein (only through diet)

Callisthenics (2/3 times a week)

Trail running (25-30k a week)

Regular sports

Still drink but only a small amount once a week. Coffee only first thing in the morning.

I was reading about coffee this morning and beneficial it is

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

A good form of exercise is sex.

Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Plant powered

Creatine

Vit. B12

Ubiquinol

No extra protein (only through diet)

Callisthenics (2/3 times a week)

Trail running (25-30k a week)

Regular sports

Still drink but only a small amount once a week. Coffee only first thing in the morning.

I was reading about coffee this morning and beneficial it is"

and 70% dark chocolate

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

The body produces natural creatine and caffeine can give an edge when doing physical activities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A good form of exercise is sex.

Just saying."

I like sex but it isn't as great an exercise as you'd hope.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"A good form of exercise is sex.

Just offering ."

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

Posture has deteriorated for me due to the last few years working at a desk with fewer and fewer site visits.

I have started riding again(horses) as it requires good posture to balance on the horses back and thigh strength. All difficult to maintain (for me) at my age.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Posture has deteriorated for me due to the last few years working at a desk with fewer and fewer site visits.

I have started riding again(horses) as it requires good posture to balance on the horses back and thigh strength. All difficult to maintain (for me) at my age. "

Do you do exercises to help?

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

"Posture has deteriorated for me due to the last few years working at a desk with fewer and fewer site visits.

I have started riding again(horses) as it requires good posture to balance on the horses back and thigh strength. All difficult to maintain (for me) at my age.

Do you do exercises to help? "

Riding is an exercise in and of itself really. But planks and leg lifts help further improve balance. Usually anything that is good for your core is good for balance and this leads to better posture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work hard.

I shag hard.

I drink hard.

I stay hard.

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

"About 5 years ago stopped drinking beer and changed to gin.

It’s important to look after your body more as you get older and I also want to look my best for C too…keeping her interested in me

Haha got to have motivation

What are you classing as clean eating? No processed foods?

When are you cooking again?

Easy dinner tonight - salmon and cous cous…

Tomorrow steak and just so happen to be going to C’s…so have to have the BJ too…shhh don’t tell her

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"About 5 years ago stopped drinking beer and changed to gin.

It’s important to look after your body more as you get older and I also want to look my best for C too…keeping her interested in me

Haha got to have motivation

What are you classing as clean eating? No processed foods?

When are you cooking again?

Easy dinner tonight - salmon and cous cous…

Tomorrow steak and just so happen to be going to C’s…so have to have the BJ too…shhh don’t tell her

I’m Sure she won’t read this thread

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Core exercises very rewarding and very important

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By *iaisonseekerMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

I'm hoping I can wank my way to sustainable weight loss

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

"I'm hoping I can wank my way to sustainable weight loss

What you lose in fluid you make up for in forearm muscle

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By *iaisonseekerMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I'm hoping I can wank my way to sustainable weight loss

What you lose in fluid you make up for in forearm muscle

But over time that additional lean muscle will raise my metabolic rate and give me a sideline as a Popeye impersonator

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

"I'm hoping I can wank my way to sustainable weight loss

What you lose in fluid you make up for in forearm muscle

But over time that additional lean muscle will raise my metabolic rate and give me a sideline as a Popeye impersonator

What about your weaker arm… got to share the load

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By *iaisonseekerMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I'm hoping I can wank my way to sustainable weight loss

What you lose in fluid you make up for in forearm muscle

But over time that additional lean muscle will raise my metabolic rate and give me a sideline as a Popeye impersonator

What about your weaker arm… got to share the load

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Try to get to be able to fit in the same jeans you wore aged 21, as you age

Some new research underway indicates it could slash your risk of diabetes, fatty liver deposits and more.

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By *eardybobMan
over a year ago

the Goldilocks Zone

Hey there OP! Apologies for a late post... been a crazy week!

The key for me is preload and recovery.

Bottom line, as we get older (and you and I have precisely the same challenge) the recovery time between heavy gym sessions lengthens to a point where new gains are super hard, and you risk overtraining and injury.

Back in the day I was all about low reps of full max out weights, drop sets and training to exhaustion 3 times weekly with stretch days and light cardio in between. Just can't do it any more as recovery now takes 3 days from that kind of abuse, and as a result I've lost somewhere between 4 and 5 inches off my chest, 2 to 3 off arms etc etc.

Fortunately, there is a solution that allows you to maintain sensible bulk, and decent definition (which is also hard as your metabolism slows).

My routine these days involves a mix of high impact cardio (typically 1km sprint interval training on a rowing machine for warm up and warm down) interspersed with medium weights but using the German system (10 sets of 10 reps) SLOWLY - and never fully release the weight at the end of each rep... catch it and start the next rep before you allow the weight to hang in your hand

you'll be suprised at the difference a continuous set makes even with low weights.

Once a week I do a long row - somewhere between 10 and 20km; Aim for 25 to 30 strokes per min for an hour or two. Can recommemd a few playlists for that - linkin park features heavily in mine for motivation and timing as the tracks vary in tempo, so kinda sprint interval anyway.

Nutrition is less important with this mix of cardio and resistance training as the fat just melts away, and definiton more than makes up for the lack of mass.

I have it on good authority (phd level nutritionist) that the great majority of supplements are just going to get pissed away as your body doesnt need them in such extreme volumes - so forget BCAs etc... waste of money.

There are 2 supplements that work:

1. Creatine - ideally already in a protein shake (most of them contain it, so you wont need to buy extra). This preloads the muscle strands with water, and lets you train harder. Drink lots of water as you train, and after also or you may get a dehydration headache (the muscle strands dont care where the water comes from, but they are having it!)

2. Caffeine - ideally a stiff espresso before you train as it wakes you up and motivates you to smash it.

That's it. Everything else is a waste of time. (Expecting abuse on this, but that is my experience - and over the last 25 years I've tried just about everything except steroids in my desparation to escape from being stick thin).

Pre workout, load with slow release carbs so that you have the energy to train hard. (Porridge, bananas etc)

Post workout and on the critical rest and stretch days, give your body the building blocks it needs to recover by eating well - and drinking lots of water.

Relax.

Sleep well.

Eat well - but normally.

Eat all the fat you like, but never put sugar in your stomach at the same time, as the insulin spike tells your body to store the fat for hard times ahead (a physiological trait that allowed our hunter gatherer ancestors to survive winter by fattening up in the autumn fruit glut). Skip desert... Ice cream is way out! (50% fat, 50% sugar)

Find yourself an exceptionally gorgeous partner and burn off a few more cardio calories in a more enjoyable way - and in the same stroke find the motivation to smash it even harder in the gym for her pleasure... (I figure you already worked this bit out btw

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Good luck!

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

I keep it simple. No gym because that bores the arse off me. I eat what I want within reason and hike mountains that I couldn't have done in my 30's.

It seems to work for me but it's not for everyone.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

I’ve started taking vit d and an “over 50s” supplement.

I reckon it’s helping.

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over a year ago

"I keep it simple. No gym because that bores the arse off me. I eat what I want within reason and hike mountains that I couldn't have done in my 30's.

It seems to work for me but it's not for everyone. "

Definitely agree with this, climbed snowdon yesterday 26,000 steps, over 3000 ft elevation. 4:30 hours fitness. Gyms have their place and are ideal for targeting certain aspects of fitness, also ideal when the weathers terrible. But personally I run, climb, walk and enjoy lifting logs and chopping wood. I get bored in the Gum very easily and after 40 mins I’m ready for leaving.

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By *eardybobMan
over a year ago

the Goldilocks Zone

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By *eardybobMan
over a year ago

the Goldilocks Zone

Very true both - and yeah.

Definitely better to get outside in the real world if you can. I used to love mountaineering and fell running - 30 to 40 miles in a day with the wind blowing you inside out... the lakes... snowdonia - pennines... very hard to beat!

Not possible these days for a bunch of reasons

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

I’ve found that taking multi vitamins, eating well and exercise are my baseline for general health.

I do find that it harder to see improvements as I’ve gotten older and recovery times are longer but that I plateau from various patterns of exercise faster too.

I’ve found that mixing up what I do, how I do it and pushing the intensity gently (10% increase per week maximum) helps to keep me from injury and on the upward curve of improvement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cross train far more now than I did in my twenties and thirties. Swim twice a week, turbo and bike sessions and hit the track once a week with a local club. Along with plenty of running and limited gym work.

I've paralleled that with good nutrition, very little alcohol and better sleep. Never touched a supplement and not convinced of their worth.

Perhaps set yourself targets for the year. Whether that is faster run times, park runs or perhaps body building competitions? Most of us work far better with a goal in mind rather than just losing weight or looking better in the mirror. Good luck!

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Great discussion OP.

A few proactive things, I made the decision in my 30s to retrain out of hard manual labour so my body particular back and knees is great still.

Have always eaten well, fasted from food regularly and do Qigong to look after internal organs. I take 1000mg Vit C every day with a pint of water to prevent coughs, colds etc

Fitness wise I’ve toned down my goals as I’ve hit 50, more to avoid injuries obsessive diet ! but still stay fit and strong. I run 10k a week and just do the compounds 3 times a week in the gym and have a PT come to me once a week for weighted cardio.

I also get my full bloods done quarterly, liver function , prostrate and of course to make sure T levels are staying nice and healthy. It’s not just about sex, good T gives you muscle to prevent injury, strong bones , keeps fat off and good mental health etc. The U.K. particularly NHS is tears behind the US on this and its main reason guys get frail in thier 60s

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Great advice guys.

Overall health is so important not from just a sexual perspective but in mind and body as well and having a thirst for life itself.

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over a year ago

"Great discussion OP.

A few proactive things, I made the decision in my 30s to retrain out of hard manual labour so my body particular back and knees is great still.

Have always eaten well, fasted from food regularly and do Qigong to look after internal organs. I take 1000mg Vit C every day with a pint of water to prevent coughs, colds etc

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Less food with additives, fresh or decent frozen where possible. I never add sugar or salt to anything. No alcohol for a few years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Question: what do you take protein powders for ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Question: what do you take protein powders for ?"

Is there not enough in your diet or is it like extra boost.. aka supplement.

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over a year ago

"Question: what do you take protein powders for ?

Is there not enough in your diet or is it like extra boost.. aka supplement. "

It’s very hard to get enough protein in your diet for muscle growth while balancing the rest of the macros.

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over a year ago

"Great discussion OP.

A few proactive things, I made the decision in my 30s to retrain out of hard manual labour so my body particular back and knees is great still.

Have always eaten well, fasted from food regularly and do Qigong to look after internal organs. I take 1000mg Vit C every day with a pint of water to prevent coughs, colds etc

Great question. Are home test kits any good?

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Great discussion OP.

A few proactive things, I made the decision in my 30s to retrain out of hard manual labour so my body particular back and knees is great still.

Have always eaten well, fasted from food regularly and do Qigong to look after internal organs. I take 1000mg Vit C every day with a pint of water to prevent coughs, colds etc

Great question. Are home test kits any good? "

Blood is blood! You will save about £100 appointment charge! Take early for T , like 7am fasted. Prostrate and liver function take anytime. If you use the NHS you will have to educate them about free vs non free T they don’t get it.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I take Testosterone as part of a prescribed regime from my Doc. Men’s health is an area that interested her all through her career.

I am regularly blood tested and it’s given me a real nice pep up. In terms of my energy and sex life they are very positively affected. Morning wood is sometimes almost painful.

I have started taking collagen for my joints but I’m not sure it does any good. Might be a placebo affect but they feel better. But that could be down to weight loss and less impact as I have switched to my peloton and road bike to stay fit.

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

My diet is pretty much always on point. I don't take supplements apart from creatine if I am in a heavy lifting phase as it helps me recover better.

As I've gotten older the best thing I did was remember I'm not 23 every time I hit the gym. I'm not trying to hit PBs all the time. Amd I change my training up every 3 months just to keep my body adapting. Adding way more mobility into my routines too.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I’ve found that taking multi vitamins, eating well and exercise are my baseline for general health.

I do find that it harder to see improvements as I’ve gotten older and recovery times are longer but that I plateau from various patterns of exercise faster too.

I’ve found that mixing up what I do, how I do it and pushing the intensity gently (10% increase per week maximum) helps to keep me from injury and on the upward curve of improvement "

Was really hard to make the decision to not pursue strength improvements anymore because I know I can still but the cost is so much harder at 50 than at 30. Unless I’m meticulous with diet, sleep etc I will get fatigue , muscle tears and risk other injuries lifting so heavy. I wanna be able to eat normally not measure everything and want to significantly reduce red meat to protect my internal organs from diseases as I age

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over a year ago

The only real change I’ve done is cut my carb intake especially processed wise. And f I do I use my old PTI gurus advice from the army. That if it’s white it’s full of shite, if it’s brown get it down. I stay away from most powdered products and just look forward a more natural food intake to get what I need.

Post work out drink is always milk, has everything your body needs after a training session and is cheaper that buying a sports recovery drink.

Tablet wise I don’t really take anything. But a multi vitamin drink.

I’m not preaching health, my jobs always been very physical orientated and I’m carrying old injuries and scars, but I don’t think I’m going to bad. I’ve never been slim down be always been a bear. But I’ve ran marathons. And climbed mountains. The only new addition to my routine is I’ve been thinking of starting doing a basic level of yoga just to aid with old injuries and my range of movement.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Swapping the routine around also helps a great deal and shocks the system so it doesn't get used to just one routine

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I take Testosterone as part of a prescribed regime from my Doc. Men’s health is an area that interested her all through her career.

I am regularly blood tested and it’s given me a real nice pep up. In terms of my energy and sex life they are very positively affected. Morning wood is sometimes almost painful.

Your doctor sounds good, I had a partner who was into mens health too and learned a lot from her . Ask her about antioxidant injections amd similar boosters. Mine taught me raise my T naturally with ZMA or ZM, deep sleep and deadlifting !

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"I take Testosterone as part of a prescribed regime from my Doc. Men’s health is an area that interested her all through her career.

I am regularly blood tested and it’s given me a real nice pep up. In terms of my energy and sex life they are very positively affected. Morning wood is sometimes almost painful.

I used to take ZMA but couldn’t cope with the technicolour dreams. Still got a massive pot by the bed might give it a go after I shake of this bout of Covid. There used to be a product called GABA but it’s no longer available that was great for sleep.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I take Testosterone as part of a prescribed regime from my Doc. Men’s health is an area that interested her all through her career.

I am regularly blood tested and it’s given me a real nice pep up. In terms of my energy and sex life they are very positively affected. Morning wood is sometimes almost painful.

You can buy GABA in the likes of Holland and Barrett.

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over a year ago

I'm mostly trying to lift weights and do steady state cardio to remain fit but would like to incorporate some yoga to try and ensure flexibility in my joints so they aren't in pain from the weights.

In terms of supplements, I take creatine, protein powder and pre-workout but no specific vitamins

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"I take Testosterone as part of a prescribed regime from my Doc. Men’s health is an area that interested her all through her career.

I am regularly blood tested and it’s given me a real nice pep up. In terms of my energy and sex life they are very positively affected. Morning wood is sometimes almost painful.

You can buy GABA in the likes of Holland and Barrett."

Good to know. Not sure why I couldn’t get it for a while. Now have some on its way

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By *anysicoMan
over a year ago

cork

Anyone with experience of cystitis, dreadful condition

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over a year ago

"I'm mostly trying to lift weights and do steady state cardio to remain fit but would like to incorporate some yoga to try and ensure flexibility in my joints so they aren't in pain from the weights.

In terms of supplements, I take creatine, protein powder and pre-workout but no specific vitamins

I think more men are turning towards yoga now as a way of maintaining health rather than just because of women in yoga pants

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over a year ago

"Anyone with experience of cystitis, dreadful condition "

Not personally but I’m sure there will be in here somewhere. Is this something you suffer with?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Breakfast of porridge, cod liver oil , blueberries,chia & hemp seed and a dab of honey .

Dinner mostly always of fish and veg.

Training is mostly skipping , core work for arms and stomach, leg stances but ALL at my own pace and if l don't feel right starting l don't do it , l listen to my body and always train in the morning as it sets me up for the day.

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By *anysicoMan
over a year ago

cork

Suffering with 2yrs

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Some of you actually sound half human ....... Good Read O.P.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm hoping I can wank my way to sustainable weight loss

Hahahahaha

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over a year ago

"I'm mostly trying to lift weights and do steady state cardio to remain fit but would like to incorporate some yoga to try and ensure flexibility in my joints so they aren't in pain from the weights.

In terms of supplements, I take creatine, protein powder and pre-workout but no specific vitamins

I think more men are turning towards yoga now as a way of maintaining health rather than just because of women in yoga pants

Well I would never!

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By *ickDastardlyMan
over a year ago

North East

In terms of Diet, mine is balanced. I've dramatically cut down the shit food I eat and also my intake of Dairy and Red Meat as lowered quite considerably. I eat more fish, particularly salmon than I ever done.

To lose weight, being in a calorie deficit is just as important as exercise, if not more so.

In terms of exercise, it depends what your going for.

I've enjoyed cardio immensely from someone who couldn't do run a mile in Feb, I can now to do a 10km comfortably. I go to the gym 4-5 times a week. Rowing machine, cross trainer, stair master and treadmill are my go to's, 3 days a week and the other two I devote to core work and upper body. But I find that tedious. I'm currently looking for a way into that, that I don't find mind numbing.

I also try to mix it up, I'll skip a gym a couple of times a week if I can get a good hike or outdoor activity in, such as rugby or football.

I don't do supplements. I tried fat burners at the beginning but I found that played havoc with my bowel movements.

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over a year ago

I've been reading a lot about gut flora recently. Apparently, you should aim to eat a broad variety of fruit, veg, nuts, seeds and pulses - at least 30 different ones every week.

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over a year ago

"I'm mostly trying to lift weights and do steady state cardio to remain fit but would like to incorporate some yoga to try and ensure flexibility in my joints so they aren't in pain from the weights.

In terms of supplements, I take creatine, protein powder and pre-workout but no specific vitamins

I think more men are turning towards yoga now as a way of maintaining health rather than just because of women in yoga pants

Well I would never!

My mate did. Hot yoga too. It nearly killed him

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over a year ago

"I've been reading a lot about gut flora recently. Apparently, you should aim to eat a broad variety of fruit, veg, nuts, seeds and pulses - at least 30 different ones every week. "

Did it mention probiotics?

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over a year ago

"Some of you actually sound half human ....... Good Read O.P.

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over a year ago

"I've been reading a lot about gut flora recently. Apparently, you should aim to eat a broad variety of fruit, veg, nuts, seeds and pulses - at least 30 different ones every week.

Did it mention probiotics? "

Yes it did - it said they don't always make a difference as there's so many types. They're was an interesting article in the guardian about it which inspired me to do more research.

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over a year ago

"I've been reading a lot about gut flora recently. Apparently, you should aim to eat a broad variety of fruit, veg, nuts, seeds and pulses - at least 30 different ones every week.

Did it mention probiotics? "

I've sent you a link to an article. I'm not sure I can post the link publicly.

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over a year ago

"I've been reading a lot about gut flora recently. Apparently, you should aim to eat a broad variety of fruit, veg, nuts, seeds and pulses - at least 30 different ones every week.

Did it mention probiotics?

I've sent you a link to an article. I'm not sure I can post the link publicly. "
guardian should be fine ... But better safe than sorry sometimes !

I've got a book on the gut beside me ... Not opened yet tho!

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over a year ago

"I've been reading a lot about gut flora recently. Apparently, you should aim to eat a broad variety of fruit, veg, nuts, seeds and pulses - at least 30 different ones every week.

Did it mention probiotics?

I've sent you a link to an article. I'm not sure I can post the link publicly. guardian should be fine ... But better safe than sorry sometimes !

I've got a book on the gut beside me ... Not opened yet tho!"

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/11/unlocking-the-gut-microbiome-and-its-massive-significance-to-our-health

The gut is fascinating!

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over a year ago

To lose weight, being in a calorie deficit is just as important as exercise, if not more so.

In terms of exercise, it depends what your going for.

I also try to mix it up, I'll skip a gym a couple of times a week if I can get a good hike or outdoor activity in, such as rugby or football.

I don't do supplements. I tried fat burners at the beginning but I found that played havoc with my bowel movements.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I was an athlete when I was younger so had the benefit of muscle memory. After roughly ten years away from hard training I suddenly got the taste for it again two years ago.

I knew that my legs could no longer take the hard poundings that comes from road running so we bought a spin bike and weights and set up a gym at home. Use free YouTube spin classes combined with a heart rate monitor to ensure maximum effort. Also mix up training including weight sessions and concentrate on various parts of the body each day.

Don't take any form of supplements as rely on healthy eating to ensure I get all the necessary nutrients needed.

Drink plenty of water and rarely if ever drink alcohol.

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over a year ago

To lose weight, being in a calorie deficit is just as important as exercise, if not more so.

In terms of exercise, it depends what your going for.

I also try to mix it up, I'll skip a gym a couple of times a week if I can get a good hike or outdoor activity in, such as rugby or football.

I don't do supplements. I tried fat burners at the beginning but I found that played havoc with my bowel movements.

I know lots of people talk about this calorie deficit and it sounds obvious that if you eat less and move more, you'll lose weight. But some studies are showing that it's more complicated than that. Eating a broad range of foods give you a healthier gut biome. By dieting, you restrict this and could end up with an unhealthy gut. So, actually, eating healthily is more important than the deficit. "
I'd recommend the personalised diet on this. It suggests different people can eat different foods / have different reactions to the same food. In the US you get your biome tested to see what foods are better for you.

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over a year ago

To lose weight, being in a calorie deficit is just as important as exercise, if not more so.

In terms of exercise, it depends what your going for.

I also try to mix it up, I'll skip a gym a couple of times a week if I can get a good hike or outdoor activity in, such as rugby or football.

I don't do supplements. I tried fat burners at the beginning but I found that played havoc with my bowel movements.

I know lots of people talk about this calorie deficit and it sounds obvious that if you eat less and move more, you'll lose weight. But some studies are showing that it's more complicated than that. Eating a broad range of foods give you a healthier gut biome. By dieting, you restrict this and could end up with an unhealthy gut. So, actually, eating healthily is more important than the deficit. I'd recommend the personalised diet on this. It suggests different people can eat different foods / have different reactions to the same food. In the US you get your biome tested to see what foods are better for you. "

I wonder if there is something similar in the UK to this though obviously at a cost

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over a year ago

To lose weight, being in a calorie deficit is just as important as exercise, if not more so.

In terms of exercise, it depends what your going for.

I also try to mix it up, I'll skip a gym a couple of times a week if I can get a good hike or outdoor activity in, such as rugby or football.

I don't do supplements. I tried fat burners at the beginning but I found that played havoc with my bowel movements.

I know lots of people talk about this calorie deficit and it sounds obvious that if you eat less and move more, you'll lose weight. But some studies are showing that it's more complicated than that. Eating a broad range of foods give you a healthier gut biome. By dieting, you restrict this and could end up with an unhealthy gut. So, actually, eating healthily is more important than the deficit. I'd recommend the personalised diet on this. It suggests different people can eat different foods / have different reactions to the same food. In the US you get your biome tested to see what foods are better for you.

I wonder if there is something similar in the UK to this though obviously at a cost "
the company is meant to be coming over ...

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

I’d advice humour, drinking in moderation, non stick frying. Oranges, apples, yoghurt, walks, reading. Mixing with younger minds.

Just my pennyworth but don’t waste money on supplements.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I’m healthy - could be fitter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Testosterone, keep it simple and use what works

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over a year ago

"I’d advice humour, drinking in moderation, non stick frying. Oranges, apples, yoghurt, walks, reading. Mixing with younger minds.

Just my pennyworth but don’t waste money on supplements. "

This brings the question of placebos

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over a year ago

To lose weight, being in a calorie deficit is just as important as exercise, if not more so.

In terms of exercise, it depends what your going for.

I also try to mix it up, I'll skip a gym a couple of times a week if I can get a good hike or outdoor activity in, such as rugby or football.

I don't do supplements. I tried fat burners at the beginning but I found that played havoc with my bowel movements.

You can also eat a healthy diet with a caloric deficit.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

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"I’d advice humour, drinking in moderation, non stick frying. Oranges, apples, yoghurt, walks, reading. Mixing with younger minds.

Just my pennyworth but don’t waste money on supplements. "

Use supplements if actually needed (or if suffering from deficits in essentials) but not as a matter of course. Otherwise, most of them are a great way of producing very expensive urine.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I’d advice humour, drinking in moderation, non stick frying. Oranges, apples, yoghurt, walks, reading. Mixing with younger minds.

Just my pennyworth but don’t waste money on supplements.

Use supplements if actually needed (or if suffering from deficits in essentials) but not as a matter of course. Otherwise, most of them are a great way of producing very expensive urine.

^^^This

The only exception being Vitamin D, which pretty much everyone would benefit from (and is excreted faecally).

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By *ickDastardlyMan
over a year ago

North East

100% you can. But it takes discipline to stick too, at least for me it does.

I love ice cream and Pringles, what can I say!

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over a year ago

henley on thames

"I’d advice humour, drinking in moderation, non stick frying. Oranges, apples, yoghurt, walks, reading. Mixing with younger minds.

Just my pennyworth but don’t waste money on supplements.

Use supplements if actually needed (or if suffering from deficits in essentials) but not as a matter of course. Otherwise, most of them are a great way of producing very expensive urine.

^^^This

The only exception being Vitamin D, which pretty much everyone would benefit from (and is excreted faecally). "

True!

I think the supplements business preys on people looking for shortcuts, when the longer route (good balanced diet and good balanced exercise over extended period of time) sounds like hard work.

People want hacks, shortcuts, cheats, tricks, fast results, so that’s what the fitness industry and supplements industry promise them.

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By *929Man
over a year ago

bedlington

I don’t really make health the priority over appearance but at 38 might have to think about it soon. Train 4x per week and generally in the 10-15k step range in usual work day. Eat whatever like but and prioritise protein.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Need to learn to improve the balance between physical and mental health

Some of my physical health issues are caused by mental health or trying to cope with it

Need to work more on it

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Testosterone, keep it simple and use what works"

Testosterone changed my life for the better.

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over a year ago

"Need to learn to improve the balance between physical and mental health

Some of my physical health issues are caused by mental health or trying to cope with it

Need to work more on it "

The 2 are more related than people give it credit for

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over a year ago

"Testosterone, keep it simple and use what works

Testosterone changed my life for the better. "

What did you do to change your levels?

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By *ilverjagMan
over a year ago

swansea

Zinc and vitimin tablets with meals, and cod roe in a Marie Rose sauce with smoked oysters at least twice a week for breakfast. They really do work!

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

You certainly don't get as much bang for the buck with weightlifting at 45 compared to 25 or 35. Some protein powder and creatine supplementation helps.

Better sleep and a number of vitamins notably zinc and Vit D to keep the immune system strong.

I don't smoke and rarely drink so no need to ration vices

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By *oungJayyMan
over a year ago

Newcastle Upon Tyne

The forums are a great place to have open discussing so let’s have this one.

What are you guys doing as you get older to keep your physical health in order?

Vits

Supplements

Protein powders

Herbal alternatives

Let’s talk about this and not just sexual health

I used to be heavily I to health and fitness when I was 20-24, lockdown happened and I have gotten super lazy!

Anyways.. I think for me, I've noticed that stress is a huge factor for anything, so I guess taking the time to focus on yourself? Whether that be meditation, stretching, music? I found to be extremely helpful in keeping my mind at ease and in affect having my body follow

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Testosterone, keep it simple and use what works

Testosterone changed my life for the better.

What did you do to change your levels? "

Got put on Testosterone Replacement Therapy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The forums are a great place to have open discussing so let’s have this one.

What are you guys doing as you get older to keep your physical health in order?

Vits

Supplements

Protein powders

Herbal alternatives

Let’s talk about this and not just sexual health

I used to be heavily I to health and fitness when I was 20-24, lockdown happened and I have gotten super lazy!

Stress does play a huge role in physical health but yet as men we are expected to not show it or ask for help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The forums are a great place to have open discussing so let’s have this one.

What are you guys doing as you get older to keep your physical health in order?

Vits

Supplements

Protein powders

Herbal alternatives

Let’s talk about this and not just sexual health

I used to be heavily I to health and fitness when I was 20-24, lockdown happened and I have gotten super lazy!

Stress does play a huge role in physical health but yet as men we are expected to not show it or ask for help "
joining a men's group was a huge thing for me... I think men are often expected to hide from public, and we've lost the private "men's only" spaces ... Hence the current men's MH issues.

I've now seen men ask for help, cry, and also check in with others.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"You certainly don't get as much bang for the buck with weightlifting at 45 compared to 25 or 35. Some protein powder and creatine supplementation helps.

Better sleep and a number of vitamins notably zinc and Vit D to keep the immune system strong.

I don't smoke and rarely drink so no need to ration vices

Zinc, Zinc and Magnesium or ZMA, worked really well after heavy lifting , for me at least it seemed to induce that deep sleep that aids recovery and Testosterone production. If you can do just one thing then get your deep sleep increased, it fixes so many things. You can track on apps now, I’m right on the upper end about 15-18%. I used to be around 8-10% when I first started tacking it. Chocolate and raw cacao can help too, but also training heavy later in the evening and taking sauna, hot tub after so when you hit the pillow you instantly fall asleep

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The forums are a great place to have open discussing so let’s have this one.

What are you guys doing as you get older to keep your physical health in order?

Vits

Supplements

Protein powders

Herbal alternatives

Let’s talk about this and not just sexual health

I used to be heavily I to health and fitness when I was 20-24, lockdown happened and I have gotten super lazy!

Stress does play a huge role in physical health but yet as men we are expected to not show it or ask for help joining a men's group was a huge thing for me... I think men are often expected to hide from public, and we've lost the private "men's only" spaces ... Hence the current men's MH issues.

I've now seen men ask for help, cry, and also check in with others.

I have to agree with all of this and one of the reason I wanted to start this thread to create another safe space

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