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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

What’s Your take on the definition of a Karen on the fab threads ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Probably someone with an entitled attitude that complains when they don't get their own way. Not really seen it used much on here though compared to some other terms.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone that always has to moan about everything .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A Dominant lady who will make you lick the floor before she walks on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A woman who dares to voice her opinion.

Is there a male equivalent?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself."

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By *onb21Woman
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Probably someone with an entitled attitude that complains when they don't get their own way. Not really seen it used much on here though compared to some other terms."

Thank fuck for that. It's the most stupid of the recent internet bandwagons.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Someone who pokes their nose in where it's not wanted are allways right in their minds! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A woman who dares to voice her opinion.

Is there a male equivalent?"

Nah, but there's plenty of others for men. A Kyle or a Chad for example. You can stereotype any name if you try hard enough

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By *inell1Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

I was married to a Karen!!! Gladly not anymore

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Probably someone with an entitled attitude that complains when they don't get their own way. Not really seen it used much on here though compared to some other terms.

Thank fuck for that. It's the most stupid of the recent internet bandwagons."

I could of brought up the woke culture !

That’s the biggest load of nonsense seriously!

The chuckle brothers would probably be deemed to offensive nowadays

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

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A drag queen?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I was married to a Karen!!! Gladly not anymore "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A drag queen?"

There’s no wrong answer!

It’s subjective

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"A drag queen?

There’s no wrong answer!

It’s subjective

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Probably someone with an entitled attitude that complains when they don't get their own way. Not really seen it used much on here though compared to some other terms.

Thank fuck for that. It's the most stupid of the recent internet bandwagons.

I could of brought up the woke culture !

That’s the biggest load of nonsense seriously!

The chuckle brothers would probably be deemed to offensive nowadays "

What's that got to do with the meaning of a Karen?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Someone who pokes their nose in where it's not wanted are allways right in their minds! X"

Your claws have been out all day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A woman who knows her own mind and isn't afraid to stand up for herself or have an opinion and then gets criticised for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She'd never shag a Stuart...or worse, a Kevin

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

What's a Tim?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Probably someone with an entitled attitude that complains when they don't get their own way. Not really seen it used much on here though compared to some other terms.

Thank fuck for that. It's the most stupid of the recent internet bandwagons.

I could of brought up the woke culture !

That’s the biggest load of nonsense seriously!

The chuckle brothers would probably be deemed to offensive nowadays

What's that got to do with the meaning of a Karen? "

Read it back explaining it will bore the 2 of us

It makes sense

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire


"What's a Tim?"

He’s nice but dim …a bit like me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A carpenter ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A carpenter ?"

That’s deeply offended by wood !

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Someone who pokes their nose in where it's not wanted are allways right in their minds! X

Your claws have been out all day

"

x

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

Also there is actually a movie about a Karen, called Karen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know. "

I know the origins. It has however become a generic term for any woman that seems to complain or stand up for herself so the origins are irrelevant.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know. "

OP does ask what peoples definition of a karen so bound to be various views? X

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know. "

Haha well you obviously do !!!

Good stuff

I’d be embarrassed if I knew the difference to be honest

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Also there is actually a movie about a Karen, called Karen."

What’s the plot ?

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know.

I know the origins. It has however become a generic term for any woman that seems to complain or stand up for herself so the origins are irrelevant.

"

That's what happens with every term. It gets twisted and perverted and abused to the point that it loses all meaning. Which is rather comical based upon the responses compared to what the OP asked.

Ironic really given the subject matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although its exact origins are uncertain, the meme became popular a few years ago as a way for people of colour, particularly black Americans, to satirise the class-based and racially charged hostility they often face.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

I've encountered what I define as a karen twice today on fab x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know.

I know the origins. It has however become a generic term for any woman that seems to complain or stand up for herself so the origins are irrelevant.

That's what happens with every term. It gets twisted and perverted and abused to the point that it loses all meaning. Which is rather comical based upon the responses compared to what the OP asked.

Ironic really given the subject matter. "

It was meant as a lighthearted subject just for opinions that’s all

I wasn’t looking to start a social debate on the definition or origin

Just your prospective on what you see day to day on the threads !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know.

I know the origins. It has however become a generic term for any woman that seems to complain or stand up for herself so the origins are irrelevant.

That's what happens with every term. It gets twisted and perverted and abused to the point that it loses all meaning. Which is rather comical based upon the responses compared to what the OP asked.

Ironic really given the subject matter.

It was meant as a lighthearted subject just for opinions that’s all

I wasn’t looking to start a social debate on the definition or origin

Just your prospective on what you see day to day on the threads !

"

I guess that's the problem though the fact that you weren't aware of the meaning and that in itself makes it not a light hearted subject. And you've been giving opinions on what people think so I don't really see what the issue is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know. "

The term has shifted from its original meaning, language evolves, not always for the better.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know.

I know the origins. It has however become a generic term for any woman that seems to complain or stand up for herself so the origins are irrelevant.

That's what happens with every term. It gets twisted and perverted and abused to the point that it loses all meaning. Which is rather comical based upon the responses compared to what the OP asked.

Ironic really given the subject matter.

It was meant as a lighthearted subject just for opinions that’s all

I wasn’t looking to start a social debate on the definition or origin

Just your prospective on what you see day to day on the threads !

I guess that's the problem though the fact that you weren't aware of the meaning and that in itself makes it not a light hearted subject. And you've been giving opinions on what people think so I don't really see what the issue is. "

I never said I wasn’t aware of the meaning that’s you

I asked people’s opinion of what they class of as a Karen

Anyway there’s no issue

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You can tell the difference between those that know the origins of the meme/term and those that think they know.

The term has shifted from its original meaning, language evolves, not always for the better."

Exactly!

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Entitlement

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Entitlement "

Sound familiar?

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Entitlement

Sound familiar? "

Oi hope that not at me

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Entitlement

Sound familiar?

Oi hope that not at me"

Why would you think that ?

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Entitlement

Sound familiar?

Oi hope that not at me

Why would you think that ? "

Because I'm a mind reader

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Entitlement

Sound familiar?

Oi hope that not at me

Why would you think that ?

Because I'm a mind reader "

You sure it’s not cause subconsciously you might think your a Karen ? Haha

honestly I wasn’t saying that we get on I was just asking a genuine question !

Your not that bad

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Entitlement

Sound familiar?

Oi hope that not at me

Why would you think that ?

Because I'm a mind reader

You sure it’s not cause subconsciously you might think your a Karen ? Haha

honestly I wasn’t saying that we get on I was just asking a genuine question !

Your not that bad "

I'm no princess

Or think I'm above anyone xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Entitlement

Sound familiar?

Oi hope that not at me

Why would you think that ?

Because I'm a mind reader

You sure it’s not cause subconsciously you might think your a Karen ? Haha

honestly I wasn’t saying that we get on I was just asking a genuine question !

Your not that bad

I'm no princess

Or think I'm above anyone xxx"

Ever watched Aladdin ? What was her name again ? The princess I mean ?

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Entitlement

Sound familiar?

Oi hope that not at me

Why would you think that ?

Because I'm a mind reader

You sure it’s not cause subconsciously you might think your a Karen ? Haha

honestly I wasn’t saying that we get on I was just asking a genuine question !

Your not that bad

I'm no princess

Or think I'm above anyone xxx

Ever watched Aladdin ? What was her name again ? The princess I mean ?

"

Jasmine

I'm _asmeen xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Entitlement

Sound familiar?

Oi hope that not at me

Why would you think that ?

Because I'm a mind reader

You sure it’s not cause subconsciously you might think your a Karen ? Haha

honestly I wasn’t saying that we get on I was just asking a genuine question !

Your not that bad

I'm no princess

Or think I'm above anyone xxx

Ever watched Aladdin ? What was her name again ? The princess I mean ?

Jasmine

I'm _asmeen xx"

Both lovely names !

I like you got that one

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Entitlement

Sound familiar?

Oi hope that not at me

Why would you think that ?

Because I'm a mind reader

You sure it’s not cause subconsciously you might think your a Karen ? Haha

honestly I wasn’t saying that we get on I was just asking a genuine question !

Your not that bad

I'm no princess

Or think I'm above anyone xxx

Ever watched Aladdin ? What was her name again ? The princess I mean ?

Jasmine

I'm _asmeen xx

Both lovely names !

I like you got that one "

Xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself."

Errrr I beg to differ.. usually Karens just love to complain about all sweet nothing. There’s a big difference in the two. They usually tend to be annoying and get fired up easily on sensitive matters … but more than anything is the entitled aura they have that makes them Karens

Anyone can be one but somehow they tend to be the middle aged women who aren’t very open minded..

I’m glad some people now call them out when they behave like one and I hope they realise what they are doing/saying by being called out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ps: I’m sorry for women who actually are called Karen

The equivalent male version I think is called a Kevin

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Ps: I’m sorry for women who actually are called Karen

The equivalent male version I think is called a Kevin "

My sister is named karen and have a brother kevin! But my sister as much as I love her dearly is a karen! My parents must have known when they named her lol! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ps: I’m sorry for women who actually are called Karen

The equivalent male version I think is called a Kevin

My sister is named karen and have a brother kevin! But my sister as much as I love her dearly is a karen! My parents must have known when they named her lol! X"

Little giggling to myself here!!! X

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Jumped up female with a false sense of entitlement and power

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also there is actually a movie about a Karen, called Karen.

What’s the plot ?

"

she lost the plot in the first 10 minutes. Lol

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Wow! The interpretation of it differs widely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What’s Your take on the definition of a Karen on the fab threads ??

"

Karen is a wonderful friend to all. Who sits on the thread-fence and agrees to everything, trying to not rustle any feathers ...

Bestie to all, except one!

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By *ettaManMan
over a year ago

Kerry and Dublin

From the Urban Dictionary:

Middle aged woman, typically blonde, makes solutions to others' problems an inconvenience to her although she isn't even remotely affected.

Example:

Karen refuses to wear a face mask for her 5 minute trip to the supermarket during a pandemic. She harasses the workers, asks to see the manager and threatens to sue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself.

Errrr I beg to differ.. usually Karens just love to complain about all sweet nothing. There’s a big difference in the two. They usually tend to be annoying and get fired up easily on sensitive matters … but more than anything is the entitled aura they have that makes them Karens

Anyone can be one but somehow they tend to be the middle aged women who aren’t very open minded..

I’m glad some people now call them out when they behave like one and I hope they realise what they are doing/saying by being called out "

That might have been the original definition, but the term also now gets used for any woman who rightly defends herself and her position, it’s a convenient term for liberal men to use so as not to appear like a Misogynist, it’s just another term used to keep women in their place when they get too uppity and start speaking up.

Funny how there’s not an equivalent term when a man speaks out, wonder why that is ?!

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself.

Errrr I beg to differ.. usually Karens just love to complain about all sweet nothing. There’s a big difference in the two. They usually tend to be annoying and get fired up easily on sensitive matters … but more than anything is the entitled aura they have that makes them Karens

Anyone can be one but somehow they tend to be the middle aged women who aren’t very open minded..

I’m glad some people now call them out when they behave like one and I hope they realise what they are doing/saying by being called out

That might have been the original definition, but the term also now gets used for any woman who rightly defends herself and her position, it’s a convenient term for liberal men to use so as not to appear like a Misogynist, it’s just another term used to keep women in their place when they get too uppity and start speaking up.

Funny how there’s not an equivalent term when a man speaks out, wonder why that is ?!"

There is. Incel, Kyle, virgin, etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A Dramatic Diva ... Me thinks that's what a Karen is...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself.

Errrr I beg to differ.. usually Karens just love to complain about all sweet nothing. There’s a big difference in the two. They usually tend to be annoying and get fired up easily on sensitive matters … but more than anything is the entitled aura they have that makes them Karens

Anyone can be one but somehow they tend to be the middle aged women who aren’t very open minded..

I’m glad some people now call them out when they behave like one and I hope they realise what they are doing/saying by being called out

That might have been the original definition, but the term also now gets used for any woman who rightly defends herself and her position, it’s a convenient term for liberal men to use so as not to appear like a Misogynist, it’s just another term used to keep women in their place when they get too uppity and start speaking up.

Funny how there’s not an equivalent term when a man speaks out, wonder why that is ?!"

If it’s about that, then I’m also a Karen for voicing out my side always (but by doing so I don’t try to bend other people because I feel superior or because me being a white blonde woman makes me entitled to bend people to my will)

The male equivalent is a Kevin and there’s loads of them too . Usually middle aged (happen to be Americans for whatever reason )

Basically what people might refer to as a gammon also could be a Kevin

Thank god you aren’t one of them CJ

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself.

Errrr I beg to differ.. usually Karens just love to complain about all sweet nothing. There’s a big difference in the two. They usually tend to be annoying and get fired up easily on sensitive matters … but more than anything is the entitled aura they have that makes them Karens

Anyone can be one but somehow they tend to be the middle aged women who aren’t very open minded..

I’m glad some people now call them out when they behave like one and I hope they realise what they are doing/saying by being called out

That might have been the original definition, but the term also now gets used for any woman who rightly defends herself and her position, it’s a convenient term for liberal men to use so as not to appear like a Misogynist, it’s just another term used to keep women in their place when they get too uppity and start speaking up.

Funny how there’s not an equivalent term when a man speaks out, wonder why that is ?!

There is. Incel, Kyle, virgin, etc "

Not even close to what we are talking about, assertive men are just being men, there’s no name that’s used in wider society, even my workmates have heard of the term ‘Karen’ and they’re tradies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently some say it is also a Ken or Terry

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself.

Errrr I beg to differ.. usually Karens just love to complain about all sweet nothing. There’s a big difference in the two. They usually tend to be annoying and get fired up easily on sensitive matters … but more than anything is the entitled aura they have that makes them Karens

Anyone can be one but somehow they tend to be the middle aged women who aren’t very open minded..

I’m glad some people now call them out when they behave like one and I hope they realise what they are doing/saying by being called out

That might have been the original definition, but the term also now gets used for any woman who rightly defends herself and her position, it’s a convenient term for liberal men to use so as not to appear like a Misogynist, it’s just another term used to keep women in their place when they get too uppity and start speaking up.

Funny how there’s not an equivalent term when a man speaks out, wonder why that is ?!

If it’s about that, then I’m also a Karen for voicing out my side always (but by doing so I don’t try to bend other people because I feel superior or because me being a white blonde woman makes me entitled to bend people to my will)

The male equivalent is a Kevin and there’s loads of them too . Usually middle aged (happen to be Americans for whatever reason )

Basically what people might refer to as a gammon also could be a Kevin

Thank god you aren’t one of them CJ "

Agreed kylie u not a karen! It's good to stand up for what u think! I do! If only u knew my sister lol! And as I say her name is karen! I spent a week with her on the isle of wight last month! Forgot how karen she is! Most embarrassing at times! I kept having to tell her to chill! Was a very trying week being together 24/7 that said I do love her! Our mum was the same back in the day x

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By *errocaWoman
over a year ago

Shropshire


"What’s Your take on the definition of a Karen on the fab threads ??

"

According to my sons.. Me.. I'm a Karen.. Haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Karen was a popular name to choose in the late 60s-70s - so I can see the connection to middle aged woman

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham


"Apparently some say it is also a Ken or Terry "

Kyle! It’s always been Kyle. There’s even the old meme scumbag Kyle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself.

Errrr I beg to differ.. usually Karens just love to complain about all sweet nothing. There’s a big difference in the two. They usually tend to be annoying and get fired up easily on sensitive matters … but more than anything is the entitled aura they have that makes them Karens

Anyone can be one but somehow they tend to be the middle aged women who aren’t very open minded..

I’m glad some people now call them out when they behave like one and I hope they realise what they are doing/saying by being called out

That might have been the original definition, but the term also now gets used for any woman who rightly defends herself and her position, it’s a convenient term for liberal men to use so as not to appear like a Misogynist, it’s just another term used to keep women in their place when they get too uppity and start speaking up.

Funny how there’s not an equivalent term when a man speaks out, wonder why that is ?!

If it’s about that, then I’m also a Karen for voicing out my side always (but by doing so I don’t try to bend other people because I feel superior or because me being a white blonde woman makes me entitled to bend people to my will)

The male equivalent is a Kevin and there’s loads of them too . Usually middle aged (happen to be Americans for whatever reason )

Basically what people might refer to as a gammon also could be a Kevin

Thank god you aren’t one of them CJ

Agreed kylie u not a karen! It's good to stand up for what u think! I do! If only u knew my sister lol! And as I say her name is karen! I spent a week with her on the isle of wight last month! Forgot how karen she is! Most embarrassing at times! I kept having to tell her to chill! Was a very trying week being together 24/7 that said I do love her! Our mum was the same back in the day x"

I just can’t believe how some women don’t even realise about this behaviour !! X I hope she didn’t have to say shitty things about ur daughter…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's yet another term of abuse for someone you disagree with or whose lifestyle you disdain. See chav, gammon, etc. Those who use these terms reveal far more about themselves than others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well, given that one was?a convicted paedophile I think the offense caused is justifiable

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"It’s a misogynistic term used for any assertive woman who sticks up for herself.

Errrr I beg to differ.. usually Karens just love to complain about all sweet nothing. There’s a big difference in the two. They usually tend to be annoying and get fired up easily on sensitive matters … but more than anything is the entitled aura they have that makes them Karens

Anyone can be one but somehow they tend to be the middle aged women who aren’t very open minded..

I’m glad some people now call them out when they behave like one and I hope they realise what they are doing/saying by being called out

That might have been the original definition, but the term also now gets used for any woman who rightly defends herself and her position, it’s a convenient term for liberal men to use so as not to appear like a Misogynist, it’s just another term used to keep women in their place when they get too uppity and start speaking up.

Funny how there’s not an equivalent term when a man speaks out, wonder why that is ?!

If it’s about that, then I’m also a Karen for voicing out my side always (but by doing so I don’t try to bend other people because I feel superior or because me being a white blonde woman makes me entitled to bend people to my will)

The male equivalent is a Kevin and there’s loads of them too . Usually middle aged (happen to be Americans for whatever reason )

Basically what people might refer to as a gammon also could be a Kevin

Thank god you aren’t one of them CJ

Agreed kylie u not a karen! It's good to stand up for what u think! I do! If only u knew my sister lol! And as I say her name is karen! I spent a week with her on the isle of wight last month! Forgot how karen she is! Most embarrassing at times! I kept having to tell her to chill! Was a very trying week being together 24/7 that said I do love her! Our mum was the same back in the day x

I just can’t believe how some women don’t even realise about this behaviour !! X I hope she didn’t have to say shitty things about ur daughter… "

She was the last person to know about sophie! As was not looking forward to her reaction! But tbh after the initial 1001 questions she was not as opinionated as I thought she b! One of brothers is funny enough the kevin! I could fall out with him over his opinions of sophie! But i wouldn't want to do that x

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over a year ago

I think of a Karen as a self-righteous condescending asshole. And for a man it's a Kyle. It's funny actually because the biggest 'Karen' I know is actually called Karen.

Do I think it's a name that is thrown around at women who are doing absolutely nothing wrong? Yes, very often I seen it thrown at women who are confident and self assured.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my experience people that call others Karens are normally people that have nothing to say or anything to backup their side of a debate.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

There's a BBC explanation, also coverage of BBQ Betty, from Oakland.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Although its exact origins are uncertain, the meme became popular a few years ago as a way for people of colour, particularly black Americans, to satirise the class-based and racially charged hostility they often face."

Yes, I thought it meant an entitled *white* woman acting out for no good reason.

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

There goes that name.

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By *AURA6969TV/TS
over a year ago

RUGBY


"What's a Tim?"
Timothy

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

I demand to speak to Admin! People I'm not interested in keep liking my photos

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

I'd like to speak to the manager of fab

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"I think of a Karen as a self-righteous condescending asshole. And for a man it's a Kyle. It's funny actually because the biggest 'Karen' I know is actually called Karen.

Do I think it's a name that is thrown around at women who are doing absolutely nothing wrong? Yes, very often I seen it thrown at women who are confident and self assured.

"

Male equivalent is Ken (you take away the ar).

Kyle, is scumbag Kyle who is a really shitty friend or person to

Unfortunately yes it has become a term that gets overused in such ways. It is now in the mainstream and gets thrown around as a generic insult to "deflect" differing opinions. Similar to how snowflake is used, it has lost its original intent as is now an umbrella term.

The... "confusion"... of self assured and confident women being called "Karen" is because often enough the "speak to the manger" side of Karen always comes with those traits of confidence. Were as a women can be self assured and confident without having the attitude that Karen is originally attached to.

Some people then struggle to view them as separate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In my experience people that call others Karens are normally people that have nothing to say or anything to backup their side of a debate.

"

This ^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a buzzword that originated on the internet and used mainly by American's in their 30s to 40s.

It refers to an overly entitled woman.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Someone who has the answer for everything and never wrong

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Tantrum throwing bully who exaggerates situations that aren't going as she pleases, twists the narrative so somehow she's a victim or being victimised. Spouts rights and legal stuff that's wrong, thinks she's the one writing the rules instead of needing to follow them.

Would happily see someone fired and consider it justice done over something ridiculously trivial.

Proper cunt of a human.

Probably secrets fucking hates herself and not shown much attention growing up.

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire


"It's a buzzword that originated on the internet and used mainly by American's in their 30s to 40s.

It refers to an overly entitled woman."

Sadly, it's now mainly used by morons who can't cope with a woman expressing differing opinions to themselves.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Tantrum throwing bully who exaggerates situations that aren't going as she pleases, twists the narrative so somehow she's a victim or being victimised. Spouts rights and legal stuff that's wrong, thinks she's the one writing the rules instead of needing to follow them.

Would happily see someone fired and consider it justice done over something ridiculously trivial.

Proper cunt of a human.

Probably secrets fucking hates herself and not shown much attention growing up."

This actually sounds like one of my ex's glad got rid of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am glad that I have not got a 'Karen' in my life, lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tbh, I don't recall seeing Karen be used outside of the over entitled, sanctimonious problem maker. Will have to keep an eye out for the wider definition.

I suspect may terms get abused like this tho. I think mansplaining is another one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way."

Well described

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tantrum throwing bully who exaggerates situations that aren't going as she pleases, twists the narrative so somehow she's a victim or being victimised. Spouts rights and legal stuff that's wrong, thinks she's the one writing the rules instead of needing to follow them.

Would happily see someone fired and consider it justice done over something ridiculously trivial.

Proper cunt of a human.

Probably secrets fucking hates herself and not shown much attention growing up."

I love you too much!!! You make me giggle so much and yes, well fucking explained!!!

They need to be banished

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way."

Well googled word for word off of Wikipedia, now what’s your own thoughts on the topic ?

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way.

Well described "

To be fair it has moved on from white women and includes any woman that takes up that particular attitude, regardless of race and religion. The male version being a Ken.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"It's a buzzword that originated on the internet and used mainly by American's in their 30s to 40s.

It refers to an overly entitled woman.

Sadly, it's now mainly used by morons who can't cope with a woman expressing differing opinions to themselves. "

It's really not! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tantrum throwing bully who exaggerates situations that aren't going as she pleases, twists the narrative so somehow she's a victim or being victimised. Spouts rights and legal stuff that's wrong, thinks she's the one writing the rules instead of needing to follow them.

Would happily see someone fired and consider it justice done over something ridiculously trivial.

Proper cunt of a human.

Probably secrets fucking hates herself and not shown much attention growing up.

I love you too much!!! You make me giggle so much and yes, well fucking explained!!!

They need to be banished "

I'm in agreement with this tbh.

I certainly wouldn't use it for a woman with a strong personality as many have said above.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way.

Well described

To be fair it has moved on from white women and includes any woman that takes up that particular attitude, regardless of race and religion. The male version being a Ken."

Oh that’s funny, someone said Kev, another said Kyle, so I don’t think there is a male version, because men are allowed to be assertive.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Tantrum throwing bully who exaggerates situations that aren't going as she pleases, twists the narrative so somehow she's a victim or being victimised. Spouts rights and legal stuff that's wrong, thinks she's the one writing the rules instead of needing to follow them.

Would happily see someone fired and consider it justice done over something ridiculously trivial.

Proper cunt of a human.

Probably secrets fucking hates herself and not shown much attention growing up."

Love this description x

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"Tbh, I don't recall seeing Karen be used outside of the over entitled, sanctimonious problem maker. Will have to keep an eye out for the wider definition.

I suspect may terms get abused like this tho. I think mansplaining is another one. "

Yes, so many terms and words get twisted, abused, and perverted in to umbrella terms that they are thrown around until each person has their own version of it. All connected but varied.

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

I was discussing hair cuts with my sister and my niece jumped in and said don’t get a Karen hair cut so I’m presuming Karen’s have a certain hair cut ..

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Karen mulder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way.

Well described

To be fair it has moved on from white women and includes any woman that takes up that particular attitude, regardless of race and religion. The male version being a Ken.

Oh that’s funny, someone said Kev, another said Kyle, so I don’t think there is a male version, because men are allowed to be assertive. "

I really don't think it's about being assertive one bit. Princess Peach's description has absolutely nailed it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was discussing hair cuts with my sister and my niece jumped in and said don’t get a Karen hair cut so I’m presuming Karen’s have a certain hair cut .."

They totally do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A person named Karen?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way.

Well described

To be fair it has moved on from white women and includes any woman that takes up that particular attitude, regardless of race and religion. The male version being a Ken.

Oh that’s funny, someone said Kev, another said Kyle, so I don’t think there is a male version, because men are allowed to be assertive. "

It’s not being assertive tho, it’s being a demanding c**t really .. and being entitled and superior… it’s a bit of a mix of all those things. Throwing a tantrum just because they don’t get their way, basically a big man child …

That’s a Ken/Kevin/Terry

It’s less frequent than the Karen but only because there’s more demanding women

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off!

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off! "

No that's not a karen u were right x

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off! "

That's standard

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off! "

Nah, A Karen would have stood there yelling at her, not for leaving rubbish but for leaving rubbish near her... and threatened to sue her for damages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's the word for sticking labels on people you don't know?

Oh yeah. That's pre-judgement. Or prejudice.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"What's the word for sticking labels on people you don't know?

Oh yeah. That's pre-judgement. Or prejudice.

"

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"What's the word for sticking labels on people you don't know?

Oh yeah. That's pre-judgement. Or prejudice.

"

And who the fuck cares xxx

X

X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the word for sticking labels on people you don't know?

Oh yeah. That's pre-judgement. Or prejudice.

And who the fuck cares xxx

X

X

"

Nailed it.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"What's the word for sticking labels on people you don't know?

Oh yeah. That's pre-judgement. Or prejudice.

And who the fuck cares xxx

X

X

Nailed it. "

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought it was an example of a 'normal' woman with an average life and an unrealistic opinion about life.

I hate shit like this though. Terms invented then used by the masses. And 'they' think we're all being controlled by Covid vaccines n stuff.

Seeing through the dogshit can be quite negative though. Makes you not want to get out of bed. Of course could just be wrong and a negative twat. Maybe there is something in the 'Live Laugh Love' bollocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A Fab Karen is someone who will give their opinion without filters. - The total opposite of Fab Sheeple who will only give the Fab Approved Opinion for fear of never getting a shag again.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"A Fab Karen is someone who will give their opinion without filters. - The total opposite of Fab Sheeple who will only give the Fab Approved Opinion for fear of never getting a shag again. "

The question wasn't

What's a fab karen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off!

Nah, A Karen would have stood there yelling at her, not for leaving rubbish but for leaving rubbish near her... and threatened to sue her for damages "

!!!! Totally

The sueing thing is real tho

Then again I should be a Karen cos I did almost take to court previous employers for being unfair and total rip off

We settled things before court obvs cos guess what… I WAS RIGHT

Urgh, maybe I’m a Karen in the making

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A Fab Karen is someone who will give their opinion without filters. - The total opposite of Fab Sheeple who will only give the Fab Approved Opinion for fear of never getting a shag again.

The question wasn't

What's a fab karen

"

I think you're a fab Yasmeen though

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off!

Nah, A Karen would have stood there yelling at her, not for leaving rubbish but for leaving rubbish near her... and threatened to sue her for damages

!!!! Totally

The sueing thing is real tho

Then again I should be a Karen cos I did almost take to court previous employers for being unfair and total rip off

We settled things before court obvs cos guess what… I WAS RIGHT

Urgh, maybe I’m a Karen in the making

"

No not at all! Standing up for yourself is completely different than a karen! It's good to stand up for yourself x

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"A Fab Karen is someone who will give their opinion without filters. - The total opposite of Fab Sheeple who will only give the Fab Approved Opinion for fear of never getting a shag again. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off!

Nah, A Karen would have stood there yelling at her, not for leaving rubbish but for leaving rubbish near her... and threatened to sue her for damages

!!!! Totally

The sueing thing is real tho

Then again I should be a Karen cos I did almost take to court previous employers for being unfair and total rip off

We settled things before court obvs cos guess what… I WAS RIGHT

Urgh, maybe I’m a Karen in the making

No not at all! Standing up for yourself is completely different than a karen! It's good to stand up for yourself x"

OOOOO! Maybe its a name given by those too afraid of donig so so they don't feel as bad about themselves?

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"A Fab Karen is someone who will give their opinion without filters. - The total opposite of Fab Sheeple who will only give the Fab Approved Opinion for fear of never getting a shag again.

The question wasn't

What's a fab karen

I think you're a fab Yasmeen though "

Likewise xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off!

Nah, A Karen would have stood there yelling at her, not for leaving rubbish but for leaving rubbish near her... and threatened to sue her for damages

!!!! Totally

The sueing thing is real tho

Then again I should be a Karen cos I did almost take to court previous employers for being unfair and total rip off

We settled things before court obvs cos guess what… I WAS RIGHT

Urgh, maybe I’m a Karen in the making

No not at all! Standing up for yourself is completely different than a karen! It's good to stand up for yourself x"

That’s how it felt from my side as they were trying to fuck me over, and none fucks Kylie over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You think I’m a fab Yasmeen too? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A Fab Karen is someone who will give their opinion without filters. - The total opposite of Fab Sheeple who will only give the Fab Approved Opinion for fear of never getting a shag again.

"

In that case I'm a proud fab Karen.

I don't filter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What’s Your take on the definition of a Karen on the fab threads ??

"

Someone who is called Karen??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way.

Well googled word for word off of Wikipedia, now what’s your own thoughts on the topic ? "

To answer the OP I have no issue nor take on the definition, yourself?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Probably me as I just called a lady on the train back to her seat to collect her rubbish before she disembarked

She was stood by a fucking bin waiting to get off!

Nah, A Karen would have stood there yelling at her, not for leaving rubbish but for leaving rubbish near her... and threatened to sue her for damages

!!!! Totally

The sueing thing is real tho

Then again I should be a Karen cos I did almost take to court previous employers for being unfair and total rip off

We settled things before court obvs cos guess what… I WAS RIGHT

Urgh, maybe I’m a Karen in the making

No not at all! Standing up for yourself is completely different than a karen! It's good to stand up for yourself x

That’s how it felt from my side as they were trying to fuck me over, and none fucks Kylie over "

Indeed or they have me to deal with! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A Fab Karen is someone who will give their opinion without filters. - The total opposite of Fab Sheeple who will only give the Fab Approved Opinion for fear of never getting a shag again.

The question wasn't

What's a fab karen

"

What "Fab threads" does the OP refer to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are there any threads we can see the fab use of Karen ??

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By *olex99Man
over a year ago

Hull


"She'd never shag a Stuart...or worse, a Kevin "

And what's wrong with a Stuart

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By *orty-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Leyland

I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way.

Well described

To be fair it has moved on from white women and includes any woman that takes up that particular attitude, regardless of race and religion. The male version being a Ken.

Oh that’s funny, someone said Kev, another said Kyle, so I don’t think there is a male version, because men are allowed to be assertive.

I really don't think it's about being assertive one bit. Princess Peach's description has absolutely nailed it.

"

Thats great. I think you’ve missed my point entirely, any woman standing up for herself is told to get back in her box, Misogyny is still rife, it’s just disguised better now, arrogant men are perceived to be assertive , that’s why there’s no male Equivalent of a Karen regardless of what other people have said, highlighted by the fact they can’t agree on a name.

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By *ubmissiveman2uMan
over a year ago

Cheshire


"A Dominant lady who will make you lick the floor before she walks on it "

Ooohhh yes please...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman seeming to be entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term also refers to memes depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way.

Well described

To be fair it has moved on from white women and includes any woman that takes up that particular attitude, regardless of race and religion. The male version being a Ken.

Oh that’s funny, someone said Kev, another said Kyle, so I don’t think there is a male version, because men are allowed to be assertive.

I really don't think it's about being assertive one bit. Princess Peach's description has absolutely nailed it.

Thats great. I think you’ve missed my point entirely, any woman standing up for herself is told to get back in her box, Misogyny is still rife, it’s just disguised better now, arrogant men are perceived to be assertive , that’s why there’s no male Equivalent of a Karen regardless of what other people have said, highlighted by the fact they can’t agree on a name. "

I do understand where you're coming from.

I always hear women labelled as a Karen but rarely do I ever hear someone label a man in the same way with a Ken or a Kyle etc. And the fact that it isn't clear what the male equivalent is shows that the label Karen is misogynistic and it does ridicule women. If you look closely enough I do think we throw that name at females more because it's always been more acceptable to shoot down women.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Is this still going on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum. "

Why because they dare to have an opinion?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this still going on"

No, it stopped last Thursday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum.

Why because they dare to have an opinion?

"

I don't recall anyone being called a Karen tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum.

Why because they dare to have an opinion?

I don't recall anyone being called a Karen tho. "

The couple who I'm replying to just have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum.

Why because they dare to have an opinion?

I don't recall anyone being called a Karen tho.

The couple who I'm replying to just have. "

I don't know which ppl in the virus forum they are calling Karens tho.

I'm intrigued by this wider definition as I've been blind to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum.

Why because they dare to have an opinion?

I don't recall anyone being called a Karen tho.

The couple who I'm replying to just have. I don't know which ppl in the virus forum they are calling Karens tho.

I'm intrigued by this wider definition as I've been blind to it."

They seem to be referring to every woman that posts in there which comes back to the whole theory of a lot people call any woman that knows her own mind and isnt afraid to voice her opinion is somehow a Karen.

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over a year ago


"I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum.

Why because they dare to have an opinion?

I don't recall anyone being called a Karen tho.

The couple who I'm replying to just have. I don't know which ppl in the virus forum they are calling Karens tho.

I'm intrigued by this wider definition as I've been blind to it.

They seem to be referring to every woman that posts in there which comes back to the whole theory of a lot people call any woman that knows her own mind and isnt afraid to voice her opinion is somehow a Karen. "

I read that differently. It's not all women who post there are Karen's but all Karen's post there.

Still not helpful for my understanding but possibly not the broad brush it may have been read as.

Speaking of the virus forum, is the term troll genderless (or covers all genders). Will admit I see it as a male name.

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over a year ago


"I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum.

Why because they dare to have an opinion?

I don't recall anyone being called a Karen tho.

The couple who I'm replying to just have. I don't know which ppl in the virus forum they are calling Karens tho.

I'm intrigued by this wider definition as I've been blind to it.

They seem to be referring to every woman that posts in there which comes back to the whole theory of a lot people call any woman that knows her own mind and isnt afraid to voice her opinion is somehow a Karen. I read that differently. It's not all women who post there are Karen's but all Karen's post there.

Still not helpful for my understanding but possibly not the broad brush it may have been read as.

Speaking of the virus forum, is the term troll genderless (or covers all genders). Will admit I see it as a male name. "

Personally I think troll is genderless.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"I can tell you pretty much all the fab Karen's live on the virus section of the forum.

Why because they dare to have an opinion?

I don't recall anyone being called a Karen tho.

The couple who I'm replying to just have. I don't know which ppl in the virus forum they are calling Karens tho.

I'm intrigued by this wider definition as I've been blind to it.

They seem to be referring to every woman that posts in there which comes back to the whole theory of a lot people call any woman that knows her own mind and isnt afraid to voice her opinion is somehow a Karen. I read that differently. It's not all women who post there are Karen's but all Karen's post there.

Still not helpful for my understanding but possibly not the broad brush it may have been read as.

Speaking of the virus forum, is the term troll genderless (or covers all genders). Will admit I see it as a male name. "

I know they live under bridges that's about it really x

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Is this still going on

No, it stopped last Thursday. "

I forgot

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