FabSwingers.com forum: Rolex waiting time.

By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Have decided to treat myself to a Rolex as an investment.

Have put myself on this never ending waiting list with a AD.

To the ppl that manage to get one from a AD , how long did you have to wait?

Not interested in the grey market.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh exciting! I hope you love it whenever you finally get it. I bought a packet of Rolos before and I'm going to eat them tonight.

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By *orthseatiger69Man
over a year ago

Ayrshire /North lanarshire

"Oh exciting! I hope you love it whenever you finally get it. I bought a packet of Rolos before and I'm going to eat them tonight."

Who’s getting your last one

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By *imbobaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I dunno how long you’ve got to wait but my Ferrari and Harley are due soon.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Oh exciting! I hope you love it whenever you finally get it. I bought a packet of Rolos before and I'm going to eat them tonight."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh exciting! I hope you love it whenever you finally get it. I bought a packet of Rolos before and I'm going to eat them tonight.

Who’s getting your last one

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Lead times for new sailing yachts are bad too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get you well worth the investment tho hulks are silly money currently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have decided to treat myself to a Rolex as an investment.

Have put myself on this never ending waiting list with a AD.

To the ppl that manage to get one from a AD , how long did you have to wait?

Not interested in the grey market. "

They are not an investment unless you buy a limited edition or a highly sought after one.

They just hold their price

The hulk is fetching big money as production stopped.

Now people are calling Kermits, hulks

So look for limited editions or buy a vintage

As another poster suggested

Get a used Hulk from a reputable dealer with cards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Buy a Submariner, they are an investment, i bought a 2nd hand one from a dealer for3200, in 2009 sold it 18 months ago for 5000, currently fetching6500 ish may be more

OP, have you checked Parkers in Sheffield, they have some very nice watches in stock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what I gather having tried more than once - unless you have a very solid track record with a dealer then getting any if the sought after pieces is going to take years if it ever happens at all.

The gold pieces just drop the coin and wait a few months. The steel sports pieces - well unless you’re going to buy a few other bits of tat from the shop as well (few 10ks worth of jewellery for the mrs of a couple of datejusts or other watches that are 10 a penny) they may wrll take your name on a list. But there will always be a ‘better customer’ that will get the piece before you - so it is rather pointless being on it.

For the 10s of thousands it cost I out the money elsewhere. They are nowhere near as good as the hype makes out. But fantastic ‘bubble hype’ and more power to those lucky enough to cop one based on previous purchase history.

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

"Have decided to treat myself to a Rolex as an investment.

Have put myself on this never ending waiting list with a AD.

To the ppl that manage to get one from a AD , how long did you have to wait?

Not interested in the grey market. "

You do know the waiting list isn’t real, the only way, for example, to be able to buy (an artificially inflated priced) SS Daytona, is to show a history of spending even more ridiculous amounts of money on watch(es) that you don’t particularly want, and they can’t ordinarily sell unless massively discounted therefore exposing the ridiculous situation with ADs, and people will fall over themselves in the hope of being deemed special enough to be one of the chosen-on s allowed to buy a watch! And because they don’t trust you they will keep the watches paperwork for six months ensuring it would be nigh impossible for you to sell it! (It’s for your own good! And never in the history of Rolex has anyone suffered from buyers remorse!)

Porsche and Ferrari do the same, try buying a GT3 911 with no purchase history with the dealer. They didn’t like it that people were buying (sometimes merely a token deposit of £1000 was all the requirement to secure an order) then without needing pay a penny more they could sell their order on to someone who was too slow in getting an allocation (rumours of brown envelopes being left in the salesman’s desk draw, ensuring certain people were always lucky enough to get an allocation were whispered at loudly!) there has always been a demand outstripping supply for the GT models meant there would always be someone who would pay whatever was required to have it! getting a bidding war between a couple of people and it was possible to clear £50k-£100k for no effort! Anyone believed to be a flipper will never be allowed to purchase another GT car, . This enabled to dealer network to a certain extent, control the used value of their product ensuring the profit stayed with them and not Joe Public!

Ferraris control over certain cars meant that, even the most loyal collector, if he sold a certain car, to, who they[Ferrari] didn’t deem acceptable and more importantly, worthy! meant the end to the loyal, die-hard-multi-million-pound-spender would essentially be persona non grata and never be permitted to buy a car from them again, this is the kind of nonsense that creates the mythology behind Ferrari, and those that fall for it will overlook the oft shoddy, sorry characterful, car is boderline cultish behaviour!

I can still remember, and it wasn’t really that long ago, being able to walk into an AD and buy there and then from stock, pretty much any model from the range and often with a discount!

Me, personally I prefer my Tudor Black Bay

and pretending a watch is an investment is you trying to convince yourself that it really will be worth x times more than you paid for it, I’ve done it multiple times when paying ridiculous sums for camera lenses (some more expensive than a Daytona Rolex) it’s that unique science called Man-Maths!

Marketing, the science of getting people to buy stuff they never knew they needed, but now they’ll sell a spare kidney to have, omplete and utter genius!! only gutted i never dreamt it up!

I sincerely hope you can get yourself one, and enjoy wearing it, at any and every opportunity for the nicely crafted item it is; then you’ll never want to sell it and it will become priceless and no longer an investment and just a watch, the reason Rolex made it in the first place

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

Apologies for the ridiculous amount of typos above!

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

"Lead times for new sailing yachts are bad too

The ultimate first world problem, fuck my life having to make do with last years model

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh exciting! I hope you love it whenever you finally get it. I bought a packet of Rolos before and I'm going to eat them tonight."

LMAO. I genuinely laughed out loud.

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough/ Kettering

I ordered a brand new Range Rover 6 months ago and its still not turned up! I rang the dealer to complain and they went off on one saying that I had to pay for it ! Sounds like I will have to wait z bit longer !

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

"I ordered a brand new Range Rover 6 months ago and its still not turned up! I rang the dealer to complain and they went off on one saying that I had to pay for it ! Sounds like I will have to wait z bit longer !

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computer chip shortage globally for new cars, the 2nd car market is ridiculous at the moment run of the mill stuff is being bought in by the trade for prices they would have been retailed at 12 months ago, and one best place to maximise they price you’ll be offered is WeBuyAnyCar!

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Lead times for new sailing yachts are bad too

Approx 10 years for any new orders of 737, but you can jump the queue if you pay an extra one million

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

computer chip shortage globally for new cars, the 2nd car market is ridiculous at the moment run of the mill stuff is being bought in by the trade for prices they would have been retailed at 12 months ago, and one best place to maximise they price you’ll be offered is WeBuyAnyCar! "

If the tank is full that adds another £5k to the value.

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By *ogNMuseCouple
over a year ago

Surrey

"Lead times for new sailing yachts are bad too

Approx 10 years for any new orders of 737, but you can jump the queue if you pay an extra one million "

Is that the 737 that was grounded and production suspended due to safety critical failures, do Boeing pay prospective buyer a £1 million to take delivery a year earlier

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By *ld StrumpetWoman
over a year ago

Telford

To be fair to the op it’s no different nt to women

Buying designer bags that are still

Kept in their dust jackets. It’s an investment and kept properly retain their price when sold on. Often idiots think to pinch electrical wjen they break in but walk past a rack of bags or women’s shoes

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By *kinkycpleCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Unless you want a gold one you may as just buy on the grey market. Having bought more than enough over my time I’ve never lost out so long as you buy at the right time for the correct current price.

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By *elle xWoman
over a year ago

Doire Theas

I got a bag of the limited edition Opal fruits took me ages to track them down

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By *ooneyCouple
over a year ago

Chester

35 years ago i brought a GMT master for £600, i still have it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"35 years ago i brought a GMT master for £600, i still have it.

Is it still on the same battery?

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By *ooneyCouple
over a year ago

Chester

"35 years ago i brought a GMT master for £600, i still have it.

Is it still on the same battery?

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. The last service cost more the the original purchase price

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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago

wirral

You're talking to the Rolex wearing, diamond ring wearing, kiss stealing (WOO!)

Wheeling dealing, Limousine riding, Jet Flying, son of a gun.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Anyone who collects luxury items, may I ask why? It's something I've honestly never understood, to spend lots of money on several watches/cars/handbags/ shoes or any other luxury item. I'm not trying to denigrate anyone and I'm certainly not jealous, I just don't understand what people "get" from having multiples of the same things with fancy labels on. Genuine question.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone who collects luxury items, may I ask why? It's something I've honestly never understood, to spend lots of money on several watches/cars/handbags/ shoes or any other luxury item. I'm not trying to denigrate anyone and I'm certainly not jealous, I just don't understand what people "get" from having multiples of the same things with fancy labels on. Genuine question....."

Genuine question? Do you have more than one book/dvd/picture/ornament in your house/possession?

Same logic. Different numbers.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Genuine question? Do you have more than one book/dvd/picture/ornament in your house/possession?

Same logic. Different numbers.

We have lots of books, but not collected because they are luxury items and to be kept "pristine" in dust jackets. Many have been gifted/handed down/inherited/acquired for 50p at jumble sales. No DVDs anymore. Only ornaments people bought us as gifts or kids made at school. Pot plants also are gifts. What bit of jewellery have was either inherited, is my wedding ring or my Dad gifted me as a younger person. Only laptops in the house are work ones, no tablets. One mobile phone each, to be replaced when they conk out. Telly in the living room is Freeview and appears to be smaller than most computer screens nowadays. No Netflix subscription (or other streaming service). This is why I'm asking the question, because we are not collectors of "things".

I was, in any case, particularly asking about people who buy luxury items and buy lots of the same type of thing (such as watches or cars) and where those items are generally not intended to be "used", but instead to sit in a cupboard/bank vault/garage, for fear of damaging them. I think I understand having multiple cheap watches, for example, if the owner liked to match the colour to their outfit and so wore all the watches (or other item) regularly.

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

You’ve kind of answer your question - you say you don’t ‘get’ why people have multiples of certain things. The simple answer is normally - because they can and want to. There doesn’t have to be a reason, and if there is a reason them telling you isn’t going to make you getting it any more obvious to you - i think your trying square a circle by trying in your view to combine someone’s wants to their needs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes precisely this. There’s a want and then there’s the ability ti follow through. There’s hardly a “need”.

Dress watch for the boardroom ro ballroom.

Dover for the beach

chrono for timing the eggs

And a rolex to wear as a ‘beater’ when gardening so that the nice watches arenkept prostine

It can border on mental illness though so there’s no rational explanation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It depends on the model you are after. My Daytona is due at the end of a 10 year waiting list and it was only through my previous purchases with an AD that I managed to get on it at all.

Don't buy a Rolex as an investment unless you've got a desirable or limited edition model and even these are difficult to predict the projected value of. The service alone comes to circa £500 and is needed every 5 years which seriously eats into any profits so be prepared for that.

If you just like the look of the watch, you might be better off with a high-end rep. Websites like RWI will show you the way. Some even have clone movements and most will pass as gen to the naked eye. Plus it won't sting as much if you ding it or, heaven forbid, get it stolen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Genuine question? Do you have more than one book/dvd/picture/ornament in your house/possession?

Same logic. Different numbers.

With watches it’s the appreciation of the watch and brand

As with any other collector it’s trying to find the piece that floats your boat

Yes there are people who just want to show they can buy the best

However I take your point to a degree

I have two (for my budget) very expensive watches but a few others less expensive

I feel a sense of achievement in the fact that I can reward myself for working hard with wearing a niece piece

I also thoroughly enjoy talking watches with other people who I meet

Watch collecting is a thoroughly absorbing past time as they are so diverse and interesting.

So I’ve stopped buying lol but almost ordered a new limited edition watch as an everyday watch

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

Im still waiting for Mc Donalds. That was 1hr 12mins ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It depends on the model you are after. My Daytona is due at the end of a 10 year waiting list and it was only through my previous purchases with an AD that I managed to get on it at all.

Never buy copy watches

Don’t buy fashion watches

You can buy credible watches for the same or less money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a jeweller contact who can supply with no vat

All legit and papers

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Lead times for new sailing yachts are bad too

The ultimate first world problem, fuck my life having to make do with last years model

In my defence, I don't wear a watch

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By *utterypopcornCouple
over a year ago

oxford

I don’t know but I would have thought the ship had sailed on making money on Rolex watches???

They will probably not lose money which is always nice.

And they are rubbish at holding the correct time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you get your watch yet?

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By *inkyeroticaCouple
over a year ago

Ampthill

"Lead times for new sailing yachts are bad too

Nothing compared to the lead time for a tank of fuel!

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Have decided to treat myself to a Rolex as an investment.

Have put myself on this never ending waiting list with a AD.

To the ppl that manage to get one from a AD , how long did you have to wait?

Not interested in the grey market. "
would you of started a post let’s say if you’d ordered a Casio ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A family member got married a few years back into a Flash Harry London family. Our side of the family has never been materialistic and all cringed when she was accepted into her new family at the post wedding speech with the gift of a Rolex (apparently it's the sign of class

I hadn't owned a watch for probably 20 years before the lockdown last year. I then developed an addiction for Fossil watches and bought 3 in a matter of weeks. Slightly different price bracket though.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Lead times for new sailing yachts are bad too

Nothing compared to the lead time for a tank of fuel!

That's proper funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest, you need a relationship with the AD, if you can afford it buy something he has in stock less popular than the sports models... Flip it grey market shouldn't lose money than get back in front of him... Rolex Ad's is a game you have to play..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have decided to treat myself to a Rolex as an investment.

Have put myself on this never ending waiting list with a AD.

To the ppl that manage to get one from a AD , how long did you have to wait?

Not interested in the grey market. "

Out of interest, which model is it you have ‘waitlisted’ for ?

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By *xploringgentMan
over a year ago

London &

"Have decided to treat myself to a Rolex as an investment.

Have put myself on this never ending waiting list with a AD.

To the ppl that manage to get one from a AD , how long did you have to wait?

Not interested in the grey market. "

If you travel, the Rolex shop in Heathrow T5 have access to stock a little more quickly so also their waiting list goes a little quicker...plenty of really good second hand options about but due to waiting lists you tend to pay slightly over the odds.

Can recommend a shopping trip to Burlington Arcade on Piccadilly in London...just up from the Ritz

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have decided to treat myself to a Rolex as an investment.

Have put myself on this never ending waiting list with a AD.

To the ppl that manage to get one from a AD , how long did you have to wait?

Not interested in the grey market.

Can recommend a shopping trip to Burlington Arcade on Piccadilly in London...just up from the Ritz"

That’s total nonsense re T5. It’s part of the WOS group and so is no different from any other branch. There are no ‘waiting lists’ at WOS. Watches are allocated to a branch. The sales associates then put forward names to the manager who to offer a watch to based on multiple factors such as previous spend etc. There’s not a physical list where you are number 7 or whatever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check out Chronofinder.com, they usually have good stock

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Thanks all that have replied,

Im after either the Air King or Sub.

On this waiting list for a month now, been told could be 6 or 8 months. If I get it then great if not then its no big deal.

It will be something I pass onto my kid in a few years and hopfully something he cherish or have in case of a financial emergency he could sell it.

The watches on the 2nd market sell for more than new.

I work hard, dont smoke or drink alot or go on many holidays so this is something I wanted.

Him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, do u have previous purchase history with the AD ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair to the op it’s no different nt to women

Buying designer bags that are still

Particularly Hermes Birkin bags but that’s because it’s so exclusive and kinda difficult to get and timeless … I think the rest will just retain the original price …if you are lucky and picked right!!

Otherwise they will lose 30% value if you wanna resell luxury designer bags

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By *xploringgentMan
over a year ago

London &

"Have decided to treat myself to a Rolex as an investment.

Have put myself on this never ending waiting list with a AD.

To the ppl that manage to get one from a AD , how long did you have to wait?

Not interested in the grey market.

Can recommend a shopping trip to Burlington Arcade on Piccadilly in London...just up from the Ritz

Must have been pure luck then...2018 I got a sub, only had to wait 6 weeks....everywhere else I tried said at least 6 months...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh are we talking about what used to be possible or are we talking about today ?

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By *xploringgentMan
over a year ago

London &

"Oh are we talking about what used to be possible or are we talking about today ?

A business college bought a Batman GMT last month from T5...he was on the waiting list for 8 weeks...

I've not looked today!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lead times for new sailing yachts are bad too

I know - two years atm

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By *estwales1968Man
over a year ago

saundersfoot

All with AD

2009 GMT 15% discount free first service, no wait.

Changed AD 2019

2019 Sub no date 4 weeks Put on list for Pepsi GMT

2020 after 12 month on list had call for Pepsi

Changed AD 2021

2021 Sub Bluesy 6 Weeks Put name on for Batman

2023 GMT Batman 14 moths wait.

Currently waiting on Sun green Bezel

I might Add I don’t spend on anything else in store to gain these Watches

Is the OP still waiting?

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Given up waiting. These AD can go fuk themselves.

Might invest in a replica, seen some really nice ones.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

Go to reputable dealer or buy from a reputable auction house

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends. Is this your first Rolex? Are you happy with any model or are you seeking a specific one?

That all affects how long it will take to come off the list.

Don’t just leave yourself on the list and never check in on the status. Stop in. Have a chat.

After you get your first one, you’ll get off the wait list faster but the first one can take a while.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are never getting it unless you spend 2-4x the price of the model you want on other watches/jewellery. And even that is not guaranteed. The market is broken, because of the dominance of a couple of ADs.

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By *ong tongue 8Man
over a year ago

Hunts

The waiting list was scraped a few years ago

Seems to be pot luck on hard to find models,unless you know someone with connections, very few independent dealers around now mostly multiples , good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if I had the money I would go for a patek philippe or Eberhard, and some others but not Rolex

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Was after the Air King model.

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By *estwales1968Man
over a year ago

saundersfoot

"You are never getting it unless you spend 2-4x the price of the model you want on other watches/jewellery. And even that is not guaranteed. The market is broken, because of the dominance of a couple of ADs. "

Not true of all ADs, but some are corrupt

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By *estwales1968Man
over a year ago

saundersfoot

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By *estwales1968Man
over a year ago

saundersfoot

"Was after the Air King model. "

Air King is Easy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No keep last 1 for that special person

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By *ullyMan
over a year ago

Near Clacton

Well, I bought my Rolex in 1983, for £830:00 GBP, and gifted it to my son on his birthday last year after having it fully serviced (privately) and valued. It was valued at £14,000 GBP. Not a bad investment eh?

I have dabbled in jewellery for decades and the worst mistake one can make with a Rolex is to have Rolex themselves Service or repair it. The reason being they renew every possible part they can so you get a virtually brand new watch back. Fine you may think, but no, because it loses it's patina it's age and it's character and most of it's authenticity and value. True collectors or "tackle Tarts" want old Rolex watches as they are, worn, but working. Also "Ladies" Rolexes don't increase in value like men's do.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Not true of all ADs, but some are corrupt "

It’s the same with Boeing, 10 year wait for a 737 now but if you pay an extra couple a million you can jump the queue.

Best to buy used watches , much more authentic and valuable imo.

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By *ddie1966Man
over a year ago

Paper Town Central, Essex.

Personally, I enjoy watches not for their value but for their practicality.

I've had a Rolex and a Patek Phillipe. And you know what, I was afraid to wear them.

I currently wear a 1962 Bulova Automatic. It says more about me than any other watch I've owned. Grounded, down to earth and practical.

I'm not gonna get mugged for it as it looks nothing special and it keeps great time. I also wear a Garrard 9ct Gold Automatic when going out. Simple but reassuringly expensive and semi exclusive as the run was limited to 1000 timepieces for the Queens Jewellers.

But I ain't gonna get mugged for it.

Watches are items for a gentleman that should be used, not admired.

To be honest, I'd rather buy a Tudor than a Rolex. Although they are Rolex's in all but name and a lot more limited editions. More readily available too.

Don't buy a Rolex as an investment. That train has left the station now.

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