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By *kaythen07 OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

I filled up whilst I was in Hull on Tuesday (its cheaper there).

That should do me for a couple of months.

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By *lenderfoxMan
over a year ago

Leeds

It's a shortage of drivers rather than fuel

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already."

When you free

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By *kaythen07 OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already.

When you free"

naughty!

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already.

When you free naughty!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Run it on turps

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already."

And grab some pasta and loo rolls while you're paying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already.

And grab some pasta and loo rolls while you're paying. "

Exactly! More panic buying is the last thing we need

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already.

And grab some pasta and loo rolls while you're paying.

Exactly! More panic buying is the last thing we need "

Panic buying is good for the economy…??

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

It’s a great way to inflate the price to make up the revenue lost during the lockdowns when demand was low.

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

If we were relying on foreign drivers who have gone back home. Why is there a shortage of hgv drivers in Europe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here we go again!!

It’s a handful of garages that may have to close,

And all in London which means all you have to do is go to the next one which you can bet your bollocks in a barn dance is no more than 10 minutes up the road.

Not a fuel shortage! A driver shortage!!

Now feel free to scaremonger amongst yourselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here we go again!!

It’s a handful of garages that may have to close,

And all in London which means all you have to do is go to the next one which you can bet your bollocks in a barn dance is no more than 10 minutes up the road.

Not a fuel shortage! A driver shortage!!

Now feel free to scaremonger amongst yourselves "

Common sense shortage too.

Some idiot queued st a station and his tank was so full he could only get £1.60 worth into the tank.

Whats it going to be like if there's was a real crisis?

Media partly to blame too, things would be ticking along nicely if they didn't report things that only serve to panic people

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By *uddy and hollyCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

There is no shortage of drivers there's a shortage of drivers like my self that dont want to do the job anymore can get more thought of and pay stacking shelves in Aldi don't believe the media when they say pay is over 50k alot of drivers are on basic pay

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"There is no shortage of drivers there's a shortage of drivers like my self that dont want to do the job anymore can get more thought of and pay stacking shelves in Aldi don't believe the media when they say pay is over 50k alot of drivers are on basic pay "
this I no longer drive a hgv quite happy to bimbke about all day in a small van delivering parts to garages .same money better hours less stress and hassle .no dealing with ignorent goods in who treat you like your something you've trodden in .no tachograph no cpc no adr .no hassle from dvsa or police job dummed down so far with the race to the bottom by the likes of stobart xpo etc that it just isnt worth it .am told the problem isnt lack of drivers it's that those drivers ADR licence have run out and there is a backlog of courses to renew

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How’s the cooking oil shelves looking in the supermarkets?

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By *urplechesterCouple
over a year ago

chester

I’m down to about 5miles left of petrol now, something tells me I need to throw a few pound in haha! Shame there’s none left locally ! It’s times like these when being laid back bites you in the arse haha! Miss pc

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Wonder where the hgv drivers are going to fill up to make the deliveries to the petrol stations if they are all empty?

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already."

There was no shortage of fuel just far to many idols.

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By *kaythen07 OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Lots of idiots out there driving around with a full tank though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's exactly this kind of post that caused the problem in the 1st place.

5 days ago BP announced it was closing 12 petrol stations yet people felt the need to tell everyone to go and fill up!

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By *rs mischiefWoman
over a year ago

Manchester


"Lots of idiots out there driving around with a full tank though."

Or not driving around as they are still working from home, where as us keyworkers are struggling to get even a tenners worth in the car..

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

Just read that someone was trying to sell 10 litres of petrol for 50.00 ..What is wrong with some people. If I’ve learnt anything from covid and lockdown it’s what selfish bastards some people are ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just read that someone was trying to sell 10 litres of petrol for 50.00 ..What is wrong with some people. If I’ve learnt anything from covid and lockdown it’s what selfish bastards some people are .."

I saw something similar on a local Facebook group yesterday somebody who was offering full petrol cans to key workers.

Turns out when people messaged them he was trying to charge £70 for full can.

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By *rs mischiefWoman
over a year ago

Manchester


"Just read that someone was trying to sell 10 litres of petrol for 50.00 ..What is wrong with some people. If I’ve learnt anything from covid and lockdown it’s what selfish bastards some people are ..

I saw something similar on a local Facebook group yesterday somebody who was offering full petrol cans to key workers.

Turns out when people messaged them he was trying to charge £70 for full can. "

Disgusting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just read that someone was trying to sell 10 litres of petrol for 50.00 ..What is wrong with some people. If I’ve learnt anything from covid and lockdown it’s what selfish bastards some people are ..

I saw something similar on a local Facebook group yesterday somebody who was offering full petrol cans to key workers.

Turns out when people messaged them he was trying to charge £70 for full can. "

On the flipside of that though there were also people offering lifts to key workers because they had an electric car so I guess like everything it brings out the best and worst in people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is no shortage of drivers there's a shortage of drivers like my self that dont want to do the job anymore can get more thought of and pay stacking shelves in Aldi don't believe the media when they say pay is over 50k alot of drivers are on basic pay "

Same here, it wasn't the pay, it was the long hrs in an artic , (12 to 14 per day) and crap working conditions, i left about 4 years ago (not hauling fuel though)

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man
over a year ago

newport

Are these the same people that stocked up their sheds with loo roll during the lockdown

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are these the same people that stocked up their sheds with loo roll during the lockdown "

Thing is like the panic buying at the beginning of the pandemic I dont think there are that many people who are actually stockpiling with huge surplus amounts. I think it is mostly people just getting a bit extra just in case but when everybody does that at the same time it causes a big problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's exactly this kind of post that caused the problem in the 1st place.

5 days ago BP announced it was closing 12 petrol stations yet people felt the need to tell everyone to go and fill up!"

Im wondering how much petrol i can get in my teapot

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact

Forgive me, but shortage of fuel, shortage of drivers. What's the point in emphasising the distinction? Same net result. No fuel either way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them. "

In my opinion any body that has put more in then they normally would has panic brought.

On the radio yesterday They had an interview with a guy who was the manager of a petrol station.

He said so many people at the till hes saying "all these panic buyers are idiots, I'd never do that"

When he asked them how much theynormally put and may say £30 he asked them why they had just put £60 in.

People think just because they don't have a stockpile of full petrol cans in the garage they are not part of the problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Forgive me, but shortage of fuel, shortage of drivers. What's the point in emphasising the distinction? Same net result. No fuel either way. "

Because both are false and there is no shortage in supply.

12 petrol stations around the country were affected by driver shortages. That would not have cause to the problem if people had not rushed out to get petrol.

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By *xhibitionisticvoyeurMan
over a year ago

Wrexham

There's plenty of fuel... Its just all in the wrong place...

I drive a lot for work, generally filling up twice a week (I usually drive it til the light comes on too). Over the weekend three supermarket garages in Wrexham were empty but shell had the premium fuel, 2 supermarkets in Bangor and one supermarket and one independent in Caernarfon were also empty.

I filled up at a shell garage on the a55 no problem.

Seems like the supermarkets are having trouble keeping stocked but named garages (shell, BP etc) seem to be faring better. Possibly due to better/different fleet management (employed vs agency perhaps?)

*shrug*, I'll just get on with my life, if I can't make it to work for a few days so be it, I'm not gonna panic or worry or do anything I don't normally do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

In my opinion any body that has put more in then they normally would has panic brought.

On the radio yesterday They had an interview with a guy who was the manager of a petrol station.

He said so many people at the till hes saying "all these panic buyers are idiots, I'd never do that"

When he asked them how much theynormally put and may say £30 he asked them why they had just put £60 in.

People think just because they don't have a stockpile of full petrol cans in the garage they are not part of the problem."

I am panic buying then in your eyes as in normal circumstances i wouldn't fill up today

BUT i'm worried that due to the lack of places locally with petrol i might end up with no petrol to take and collect my grandson to school let alone attend a vital hospital appointment.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It's exactly this kind of post that caused the problem in the 1st place.

5 days ago BP announced it was closing 12 petrol stations yet people felt the need to tell everyone to go and fill up!"

Have petrol stations or pumps at petrol stations never been locked off before? It's not like it's never happened before is it? Every day of every week for as long as I've driven there have been petrol stations with some pumps closed off.... Yet never led to such panic before..

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them. "

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

In my opinion any body that has put more in then they normally would has panic brought.

On the radio yesterday They had an interview with a guy who was the manager of a petrol station.

He said so many people at the till hes saying "all these panic buyers are idiots, I'd never do that"

When he asked them how much theynormally put and may say £30 he asked them why they had just put £60 in.

People think just because they don't have a stockpile of full petrol cans in the garage they are not part of the problem.

I am panic buying then in your eyes as in normal circumstances i wouldn't fill up today

BUT i'm worried that due to the lack of places locally with petrol i might end up with no petrol to take and collect my grandson to school let alone attend a vital hospital appointment. "

Well yes because you are panicking that there wont be a enough fuel.

If you have enough to do what you need to do for a few days but choose to go and buy more just in case then of course that's panic buying.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

I had to wait for the petrol station to run out of petrol and diesel before I could get close enough to pick up my fuel, my car runs on LPG.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony) "

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony) "

It's amazing how many people will engage with stockpiling etc but aren't man enough (or woman enough!) to own up to it. I'm sick of some people defending the behaviour as well. It's selfish as fuck and says a lot about the society we live in. It was the same last year with loo roll, flour, beans etc.

If that makes me a finger pointer/jobsworth etc I'd much rather be someone who points out the irrational behaviour of others than one of the selfish twats involved in it.

There was a report on the North West news last night of people syphoning off petrol out of vans used by some local charity/community organisation. I mean WTF does that tell you about people?

As for the scumbags selling jerry cans of petrol via Facebook they need a good fucking hiding. Absolute lowlifes.

Fair play to those offering lifts in Electric Vehicles. Proper decent folk.

Anyone caught trying to profiteer should be handed massive fines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some. "

But this is the problem it isn't the governments fault that people have heard that 12 petrol stations are temporarily closing and have rushed off to buy petrol.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

But this is the problem it isn't the governments fault that people have heard that 12 petrol stations are temporarily closing and have rushed off to buy petrol. "

Not directly but in my opinion recent circumstances have conspired to put us in a position where most of us don't trust anything they say. Hence "there is no shortage" translates to "SHORTAGE!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

But this is the problem it isn't the governments fault that people have heard that 12 petrol stations are temporarily closing and have rushed off to buy petrol.

Not directly but in my opinion recent circumstances have conspired to put us in a position where most of us don't trust anything they say. Hence "there is no shortage" translates to "SHORTAGE!" "

The only reason we have had a massive shortage of things recently is because people have panicked. Yes there has been supply and delivery issues and the shelves are definitely less well stocked but if people only buy what they need there is no issue.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some. "

Hmm maybe... And not excusing the poor excuse we've currently got in charge ... But a lot of this is "on us" Most of us know what we are doing and still choosing to go ahead and do it. The behaviours we have seen other than the first few weeks of lock down 20 months ago have been largely self inflicted, selfish, poor decision, blaming others. With such little self awareness. Along with the agenda driven malign media creating their own stories it's a toxic mix. We deserve exactly what we get. If we want better we have to take ownership and be better.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

But this is the problem it isn't the governments fault that people have heard that 12 petrol stations are temporarily closing and have rushed off to buy petrol.

Not directly but in my opinion recent circumstances have conspired to put us in a position where most of us don't trust anything they say. Hence "there is no shortage" translates to "SHORTAGE!"

The only reason we have had a massive shortage of things recently is because people have panicked. Yes there has been supply and delivery issues and the shelves are definitely less well stocked but if people only buy what they need there is no issue. "

The point I'm not making very well lol is, who should he guiding and showing strong leadership in times like this?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

Hmm maybe... And not excusing the poor excuse we've currently got in charge ... But a lot of this is "on us" Most of us know what we are doing and still choosing to go ahead and do it. The behaviours we have seen other than the first few weeks of lock down 20 months ago have been largely self inflicted, selfish, poor decision, blaming others. With such little self awareness. Along with the agenda driven malign media creating their own stories it's a toxic mix. We deserve exactly what we get. If we want better we have to take ownership and be better. "

I agree but guidance and dare I say it leadership is needed. We currently don't have it

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

But this is the problem it isn't the governments fault that people have heard that 12 petrol stations are temporarily closing and have rushed off to buy petrol.

Not directly but in my opinion recent circumstances have conspired to put us in a position where most of us don't trust anything they say. Hence "there is no shortage" translates to "SHORTAGE!"

The only reason we have had a massive shortage of things recently is because people have panicked. Yes there has been supply and delivery issues and the shelves are definitely less well stocked but if people only buy what they need there is no issue. "

You are right, just like the Tory MP on the radio earlier saying there’s no issue with fuel, the real problem is us all taking about it, it’s our fault. The reality is we are all just making it up , all the petrol stations have fuel, the fields in Lincolnshire are not full of rotting vegetables because there’s no one to pick them, second hand cars are not skyrocketing in value, gas prices are not going up , microchips are not in the shortest supply in history , pubs and restaurants are not struggling to get staff and Christmas demand for shopping will be ok , nothing else will run out, Boris has it

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

But this is the problem it isn't the governments fault that people have heard that 12 petrol stations are temporarily closing and have rushed off to buy petrol.

Not directly but in my opinion recent circumstances have conspired to put us in a position where most of us don't trust anything they say. Hence "there is no shortage" translates to "SHORTAGE!"

The only reason we have had a massive shortage of things recently is because people have panicked. Yes there has been supply and delivery issues and the shelves are definitely less well stocked but if people only buy what they need there is no issue.

The point I'm not making very well lol is, who should he guiding and showing strong leadership in times like this?

"

100% agree... Better leadership leads to better culture, better environment.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Housing demand is also fixed, were just imagining that as well and have been panic buying all the sand, cement , fencing etc that’s why the builders can’t find any materials , it’s all in our pantries

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Side note fuel goes out for date think BP was clearing fuel form lockdown that was not sold ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

But this is the problem it isn't the governments fault that people have heard that 12 petrol stations are temporarily closing and have rushed off to buy petrol.

Not directly but in my opinion recent circumstances have conspired to put us in a position where most of us don't trust anything they say. Hence "there is no shortage" translates to "SHORTAGE!"

The only reason we have had a massive shortage of things recently is because people have panicked. Yes there has been supply and delivery issues and the shelves are definitely less well stocked but if people only buy what they need there is no issue.

You are right, just like the Tory MP on the radio earlier saying there’s no issue with fuel, the real problem is us all taking about it, it’s our fault. The reality is we are all just making it up , all the petrol stations have fuel, the fields in Lincolnshire are not full of rotting vegetables because there’s no one to pick them, second hand cars are not skyrocketing in value, gas prices are not going up , microchips are not in the shortest supply in history , pubs and restaurants are not struggling to get staff and Christmas demand for shopping will be ok , nothing else will run out, Boris has it "

You are very deliberately mixing up a lot in different and separate issues.

In regards to the fuel shortage yes we are making it up because there is no shortage. No petrol station in the country has reported they haven't had a delivery when they was supposed to get it.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

There was one on here who said they'd managed to top up 3 of their cars. But that's the only one I've seen. It does seem we love a bit of finger pointing. (yes I see the irony)

We were just talking about the finger pointing. What a shame we can't collectively point our fingers in the direction of the people mandated to run the country and as one person shout "sort yourselves out!". Instead here we are blaming everyone else. A more cynical person than I might think the population setting against each other is a convenient thing for some.

But this is the problem it isn't the governments fault that people have heard that 12 petrol stations are temporarily closing and have rushed off to buy petrol.

Not directly but in my opinion recent circumstances have conspired to put us in a position where most of us don't trust anything they say. Hence "there is no shortage" translates to "SHORTAGE!"

The only reason we have had a massive shortage of things recently is because people have panicked. Yes there has been supply and delivery issues and the shelves are definitely less well stocked but if people only buy what they need there is no issue.

You are right, just like the Tory MP on the radio earlier saying there’s no issue with fuel, the real problem is us all taking about it, it’s our fault. The reality is we are all just making it up , all the petrol stations have fuel, the fields in Lincolnshire are not full of rotting vegetables because there’s no one to pick them, second hand cars are not skyrocketing in value, gas prices are not going up , microchips are not in the shortest supply in history , pubs and restaurants are not struggling to get staff and Christmas demand for shopping will be ok , nothing else will run out, Boris has it "

Now you see... There I disagree... Do we really want or think it's govt responsibility to recruit, pay, train all supply chains in all businesses? I don't... I do think we have had 20 months or complete disruption due to covid and our behaviours and responses to it and I also don't doubt brexit has required changes too. But if jobs aren't being filled that's a problem we have to fix ourselves. My high Street.. Every other shop is a coffee shop, a take away, a pub or a restaurant..do we need them all.? Want them all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Notice how the media are moving towards "what causes the panic buying". Erm...you do with your endless lies and embalishment of facts! Don't believe a word of anything in news these days. They've all got their own little agendas.

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By *kaythen07 OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Forgive me, but shortage of fuel, shortage of drivers. What's the point in emphasising the distinction? Same net result. No fuel either way. "
exactly that... annoying that people are arguing the fact no fuel at the pump means there's a shortage.

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By *ocky-boyMan
over a year ago

Durness

Fuck it, let’s all go out and buy an electric car………..problem solved lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Forgive me, but shortage of fuel, shortage of drivers. What's the point in emphasising the distinction? Same net result. No fuel either way. exactly that... annoying that people are arguing the fact no fuel at the pump means there's a shortage. "

But you are missing the point there is no feel because people panicked and put up posts like yours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had to wait for the petrol station to run out of petrol and diesel before I could get close enough to pick up my fuel, my car runs on LPG. "

I had two lpg cars and an lpg van over the years. I had the van during the last fuel shortage.

Back with diesel now though.

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place


"Fuck it, let’s all go out and buy an electric car………..problem solved lol"

That is part of the plan...

News leaked about fuel shortages to the media. Media publish it.

The fk u brigrade, the same ones who grabbed loo rolls and pasta then decide they need to get petrol right away.

Manipulation at its finest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone else. I haven't spoken to anyone directly who's bought fuel when they didn't need it. I don't know if anyone has posted that they have. Who are these people? Everyone is talking about them but nobody seems to be one of them.

In my opinion any body that has put more in then they normally would has panic brought.

On the radio yesterday They had an interview with a guy who was the manager of a petrol station.

He said so many people at the till hes saying "all these panic buyers are idiots, I'd never do that"

When he asked them how much theynormally put and may say £30 he asked them why they had just put £60 in.

People think just because they don't have a stockpile of full petrol cans in the garage they are not part of the problem.

I am panic buying then in your eyes as in normal circumstances i wouldn't fill up today

BUT i'm worried that due to the lack of places locally with petrol i might end up with no petrol to take and collect my grandson to school let alone attend a vital hospital appointment.

Well yes because you are panicking that there wont be a enough fuel.

If you have enough to do what you need to do for a few days but choose to go and buy more just in case then of course that's panic buying. "

Ok I'm panick buying !

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By *atcherofmyballsMan
over a year ago

hereford

Let's start a rumour that there's a shortage of cock

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By *asian_fruitMan
over a year ago

Fuckingham Palace

Only fill up when you need to! That’s the reason why there’s a shortage. Silly filling up when you don’t need to!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

During lockdown with so many people not driving, there ended up with a stockpile of fuel. Which has an expiry date. So the media put out a don’t panic message causing the sheep to do exactly that and run to the station filling every car and container they can therefore using the excess fuel before it gets destroyed and paying over the odds for it to boot. Fuel supplier winning, government winning, consumer, getting laughed at… and watch how the fuel prices will remain sky high now. Well done you pricks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually I'm not panic buying petrol.

I am (trying to) buy petrol before i normally would but it's to ensure i have enough to do what i need to do e.g. transport grandchild to and from school and get a CT scan to (hopefully) rule out cancer.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Let's start a rumour that there's a shortage of cock "

There will be panic sucking by midnight... May even be queueing up to have a go on it before it runs out...

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By *asian_fruitMan
over a year ago

Fuckingham Palace


"Actually I'm not panic buying petrol.

I am (trying to) buy petrol before i normally would but it's to ensure i have enough to do what i need to do e.g. transport grandchild to and from school and get a CT scan to (hopefully) rule out cancer."

Hopefully it all comes back clear. Wish you all the best!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes me glad I have legs and I want to go for a walk in the rain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's crappy for those who really need it

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Actually I'm not panic buying petrol.

I am (trying to) buy petrol before i normally would but it's to ensure i have enough to do what i need to do e.g. transport grandchild to and from school and get a CT scan to (hopefully) rule out cancer."

Good luck with your scan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Actually I'm not panic buying petrol.

I am (trying to) buy petrol before i normally would but it's to ensure i have enough to do what i need to do e.g. transport grandchild to and from school and get a CT scan to (hopefully) rule out cancer.

Hopefully it all comes back clear. Wish you all the best!"

Thank you x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Actually I'm not panic buying petrol.

I am (trying to) buy petrol before i normally would but it's to ensure i have enough to do what i need to do e.g. transport grandchild to and from school and get a CT scan to (hopefully) rule out cancer.

Good luck with your scan"

Thank you x

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

the banks are having trouble getting money, no need too rush out to the bank and empty your bank account and fill your pockets with cash and bring the banking industry to a grinding halt is there.

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By *azinga71Man
over a year ago

Angus


"Fuck it, let’s all go out and buy an electric car………..problem solved lol"

Then the national grid would be unable to cope with the demand and there would be power cuts constantly. Also keep in mind the batteries used in cars are full of rare earth elements, mined largely in 3rd world countries then transported round the world multiple times to manufacture. They have a limited lifespan and cannot be recycled. Electric vehicles are a smokescreen and are not eco friendly. Green hydrogen production is the future for vehicles I think.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"It's crappy for those who really need it"

Absolutely. I know some people who are having real problems with basic essential journeys, and others who have filled up cars they rarely use “just in case”.

Sounds as though the system should calm down in the coming days, as most of the “just in case” activity has now happened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's crappy for those who really need it

Absolutely. I know some people who are having real problems with basic essential journeys, and others who have filled up cars they rarely use “just in case”.

Sounds as though the system should calm down in the coming days, as most of the “just in case” activity has now happened "

It better calm down or I'm walking to work soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already."

Is this thread the source of the panic ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey guys - has anyone has any trouble getting petrol recently?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been driving around the North of Scotland for a few days, what fuel shortage?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already.

Is this thread the source of the panic ?"

I was about to say something along those lines

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just read that someone was trying to sell 10 litres of petrol for 50.00 ..What is wrong with some people. If I’ve learnt anything from covid and lockdown it’s what selfish bastards some people are ..

I saw something similar on a local Facebook group yesterday somebody who was offering full petrol cans to key workers.

Turns out when people messaged them he was trying to charge £70 for full can. "

I'm a keyworker. I waited until today to fuel. Luckily I managed to get £30 of petrol. Hopefully it calms down. I have a 60 mile round trip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey guys - has anyone has any trouble getting petrol recently? "

No, but I keep saying has instead of had.

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By *evoncream2017Couple
over a year ago

exeter


"Actually I'm not panic buying petrol.

I am (trying to) buy petrol before i normally would but it's to ensure i have enough to do what i need to do e.g. transport grandchild to and from school and get a CT scan to (hopefully) rule out cancer."

Good luck hope result was all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey guys - has anyone has any trouble getting petrol recently?

No, but I keep saying has instead of had. "

That had happened to me in the past.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey guys - has anyone has any trouble getting petrol recently?

No, but I keep saying has instead of had.

That had happened to me in the past. "

There’s a lot of it about.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I queued behind about 90 other cars today to get £30 of fuel... hoping it will last me till Friday x thing is my general journeys are taking longer and I'm getting stuck in traffic that would not normally be there... due to people queuing for fuel.

I was not even sure my car would make it to the pumps today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already.

Is this thread the source of the panic ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I drive 60k a year so fill up a lot! So far I’ve had to queue a bit longer while people top up their tanks with small amounts pointlessly and wait for people to fill containers just in case they can’t drive to their local shop… this is an inconvenience… however, what’s annoying me way more is that I just paid £1.79.9 for fuel at a service station that’s clearly cashing in on people’s desperation/stupidity.

That petrol station owner is a rounded door handle!

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By *r tayt2Man
over a year ago

Trim

No fuel shortage in South Armagh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Actually I'm not panic buying petrol.

I am (trying to) buy petrol before i normally would but it's to ensure i have enough to do what i need to do e.g. transport grandchild to and from school and get a CT scan to (hopefully) rule out cancer.

Good luck hope result was all good

"

Thank you x

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey

They've been panic buying over here too in the past few days. Our fuel comes by boat from Stanlow & doesn't involve uk truck drivers at all. Yet still the locals were queuing up. Utter dickheads. Some people just seem to love being embroiled in the mad fight to be as selfish as they possibly can be. Toilet rolls, fuel & then whatever the next thing is. It's a sad sad way to live your life.

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By *asian_fruitMan
over a year ago

Fuckingham Palace


"Fuck it, let’s all go out and buy an electric car………..problem solved lol"

Apparently cost of electricity is going to triple???

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By *kaythen07 OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Forgive me, but shortage of fuel, shortage of drivers. What's the point in emphasising the distinction? Same net result. No fuel either way. exactly that... annoying that people are arguing the fact no fuel at the pump means there's a shortage.

But you are missing the point there is no feel because people panicked and put up posts like yours. "

I posted this 6 days ago. And here we still are. People don't panic buy fuel for 6 days straight.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Still no diesel local to us for the last 3 days.

Idiots still panic buying.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

Its a good job all of ours are open with fuel being refilled regularly, plenty to go around

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By *5funMan
over a year ago

carisbrooke

Fuel has a sell by date/use by date. No one drove last year. So now there is a backlog of fuel sat in containers, tankers and everywhere else they need to shift because it’s going to be useless in a minute. Government issues a running out a warning on social media to scare us that we’re actually running out and the world of f/b and the rest of the social media sites will do the rest for them, and we’ll it’s worked hasn’t it. There is no driver shortage. Just a driver shortage of people willing to work for 10pound an hour when, supermarkets offer more for sitting behind a till.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The use by date idea doesn't ring true to me. People have bought what, a week or two worth of petrol. Has that really solved this issue? Or are we going to get round two on a few weeks?

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Lots of idiots out there driving around with a full tank though."

Seeing as how your OP was telling people to fill up, I see you as part of the problem!

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Fuel has a sell by date/use by date. No one drove last year. So now there is a backlog of fuel sat in containers, tankers and everywhere else they need to shift because it’s going to be useless in a minute. Government issues a running out a warning on social media to scare us that we’re actually running out and the world of f/b and the rest of the social media sites will do the rest for them, and we’ll it’s worked hasn’t it. There is no driver shortage. Just a driver shortage of people willing to work for 10pound an hour when, supermarkets offer more for sitting behind a till. "

Fuel companies have very sophisticated models for managing production levels. There is no way they would end up with a glut of useless product like that.

Besides, consumption levels have gone up drastically, and if there was a problem with stocks of fuel going off, that would have happens a few months into last year’s lockdown, not now.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"The use by date idea doesn't ring true to me. People have bought what, a week or two worth of petrol. Has that really solved this issue? Or are we going to get round two on a few weeks?

"

If the stale fuel thing was real it would have happened a year ago, not now. It’s a pretty weak conspiracy theory, doesn’t pass the most basic of fact-checking or logic-checking

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"BP have closed forecourts and I hear Tesco may have to. I would fill up if you haven't already."

... and there we have it. That hasn’t aged well, has it!

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull


"Fuel has a sell by date/use by date. No one drove last year. So now there is a backlog of fuel sat in containers, tankers and everywhere else they need to shift because it’s going to be useless in a minute. Government issues a running out a warning on social media to scare us that we’re actually running out and the world of f/b and the rest of the social media sites will do the rest for them, and we’ll it’s worked hasn’t it. There is no driver shortage. Just a driver shortage of people willing to work for 10pound an hour when, supermarkets offer more for sitting behind a till. "

Just to correct you, there is an HGV Driver shortage across the UK and indeed across all of Europe; indeed, there has been for decades.

I used to work within the service aspect of the haulage industry from 1998 to 2007, and drivers shortages then were chronic.

What you may not know however, is that Fuel Distribution drivers are not paid anywhere near the "£10 ph" level as you eloquently state. In those years I mentioned, I knew then of HGV fuel drivers who, because of their specialist training connected with the volatile load they carry, could earn a basic of £35k!

Complex overtime rates could boost their pay even further. I know of the husband of a friend of mine who left the Army 4 years ago and with his HGV driving expertise gained in the armed forces, was accepted after his fuel training, into fuel delivery work at £40k basic.

But there always has been and will continue to be a driver shortage until the big companies such as the major supermarkets and so on, stop being assholes by treating HGV Drivers as second class citizens and denying them even the most basic comforts, such as access to toilets, even a cuppa, or condemning drivers for turning up late by as little as a few minutes.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

I think the fuel stations could have limited the amount of fuel people could buy to £30.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the fuel stations could have limited the amount of fuel people could buy to £30.

"

This is what they have done in my area. No Jerry cans allowed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if they are reporting the UK is 70,000 drivers short can we ask where are the 70,000 hgv's ? That would be a lot of vehicles parked up..

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham


"I think the fuel stations could have limited the amount of fuel people could buy to £30.

This is what they have done in my area. No Jerry cans allowed "

What about my mower?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think the fuel stations could have limited the amount of fuel people could buy to £30.

This is what they have done in my area. No Jerry cans allowed

What about my mower?"

She'll have to queue like everyone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the fuel stations could have limited the amount of fuel people could buy to £30.

This is what they have done in my area. No Jerry cans allowed

What about my mower?"

No mower either

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I think the fuel stations could have limited the amount of fuel people could buy to £30.

This is what they have done in my area. No Jerry cans allowed

What about my mower?"

Probably not essential right now... But you can always switch to an electric mower! It's all part of the great reset.... To replace mowers with electric ones.

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By *kaythen07 OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Lots of idiots out there driving around with a full tank though.

Seeing as how your OP was telling people to fill up, I see you as part of the problem! "

last time I give people here the heads up to a potential problem. Free will and all that. Fill up as in put fuel in you motor. Don't know how else you could say it. I put in my usual 30 for the week. I think its really just a look at society as a whole, blame who you like because that's what we're good at. Media, government, fuel giants.... but if you look back I started this before it was on the news, I done what anyone with half an emotional nerve would of done and let people know what I had heard. I gave an opinion. As adults it's up to you to make a decision on what you do with information. Grow the fuck up.

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By *avenvalCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

Wonder when the Government will reduce the speed limit to 50mph to make the fuel in our tanks go further. They did in the 1970s or 1980s fuel crisis it would be a lot easier for them now they could just set speed limits on "Smart Motorways" to 50. Just a thought.

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By *avenvalCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

Here is one to set a cat amongst the pigeons how about introducing a minimum spend let's say £30.00 no Gerry cans allowed if you only put in £10.00 you get charged £30.00 that would reduce the number of people needless topping up.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Here is one to set a cat amongst the pigeons how about introducing a minimum spend let's say £30.00 no Gerry cans allowed if you only put in £10.00 you get charged £30.00 that would reduce the number of people needless topping up."

Yep we said that. The problem is if you run out and need to get a gallon to get you started again

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