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"Oh, you're one of those... Cyclists have as much right to be on the road as anyone else and the vast majority are also drivers. Very few cycle paths are fit for purpose and would get used a lot more use if they were actually designed with cyclists in mind. Nottingham, for example, has some excellent cycle paths that, as a consequence, seem to be quite well used." How often do you ride in Nottingham? | |||
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"Oh, you're one of those... Cyclists have as much right to be on the road as anyone else and the vast majority are also drivers. Very few cycle paths are fit for purpose and would get used a lot more use if they were actually designed with cyclists in mind. Nottingham, for example, has some excellent cycle paths that, as a consequence, seem to be quite well used. How often do you ride in Nottingham?" Never, I'm not a cyclist but I am cyclist friendly and respect them as fellow road users. I come across far more idiots in cars than on cycles. Far too many drivers seem to be oblivious to or anti-cyclist thus putting them in danger. | |||
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"How often do you ride in Nottingham?" I recently did a road race there, where a van knocked one guy off requiring ambulance, and an idiot in a car proceeded to run a number of riders off the road (he was stopped by the police). in each case it wasn't the cyclists with their lack of airbags that were acting as dangerous road users. Fine cyclists can delay you a bit sometimes, but wait for a safe place to pass and a wee flex of your foot on the go pedal and you have made up the lost time. ALL road users should proceed with consideration for others. | |||
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"Oh, you're one of those... Cyclists have as much right to be on the road as anyone else and the vast majority are also drivers. Very few cycle paths are fit for purpose and would get used a lot more use if they were actually designed with cyclists in mind. Nottingham, for example, has some excellent cycle paths that, as a consequence, seem to be quite well used. How often do you ride in Nottingham? Never, I'm not a cyclist but I am cyclist friendly and respect them as fellow road users. I come across far more idiots in cars than on cycles. Far too many drivers seem to be oblivious to or anti-cyclist thus putting them in danger. " How do you know what the conditions of the cyclepaths are like in Nottingham? | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike " I think you might find highway codes 204 to 225, you might find them interesting. | |||
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"How often do you ride in Nottingham? I recently did a road race there, where a van knocked one guy off requiring ambulance, and an idiot in a car proceeded to run a number of riders off the road (he was stopped by the police). in each case it wasn't the cyclists with their lack of airbags that were acting as dangerous road users. Fine cyclists can delay you a bit sometimes, but wait for a safe place to pass and a wee flex of your foot on the go pedal and you have made up the lost time. ALL road users should proceed with consideration for others. " They don't consider that the rules of the road apply to them. Its commonplace for them to ride through red lights, ride more than two abreast, hold traffic up on purpose, ignore road signs and more, without any fines or warnings by the authorities. | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike I think you might find highway codes 204 to 225, you might find them interesting." Where in the Highway Code does it say they are allowed to go through red lights. Must have missed that one | |||
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"Well here comes my rant Mr pushbike hater...... I do try my very hardest to ride in cycle lanes but when you f#####g car drivers park in the cycle lanes it makes it increasingly difficult to ride in a cycle lane doesn't it!! Seen as I'm sat here nursing broken ribs as a car opened its door in a cycle lane I believe you inconsiderate drivers are the cockwombles!! Rant over........ " I don't park on cyclepaths or open car doors on them. I do swear at them though, oooh the language I use would make a Scunthorpe lass blush | |||
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"How often do you ride in Nottingham? I recently did a road race there, where a van knocked one guy off requiring ambulance, and an idiot in a car proceeded to run a number of riders off the road (he was stopped by the police). in each case it wasn't the cyclists with their lack of airbags that were acting as dangerous road users. Fine cyclists can delay you a bit sometimes, but wait for a safe place to pass and a wee flex of your foot on the go pedal and you have made up the lost time. ALL road users should proceed with consideration for others. They don't consider that the rules of the road apply to them. Its commonplace for them to ride through red lights, ride more than two abreast, hold traffic up on purpose, ignore road signs and more, without any fines or warnings by the authorities." Great generalisation there fair play | |||
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"Well here comes my rant Mr pushbike hater...... I do try my very hardest to ride in cycle lanes but when you f#####g car drivers park in the cycle lanes it makes it increasingly difficult to ride in a cycle lane doesn't it!! Seen as I'm sat here nursing broken ribs as a car opened its door in a cycle lane I believe you inconsiderate drivers are the cockwombles!! Rant over........ I don't park on cyclepaths or open car doors on them. I do swear at them though, oooh the language I use would make a Scunthorpe lass blush " Guenevere, avert your ears! A Man is going to use profane language | |||
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"Well here comes my rant Mr pushbike hater...... I do try my very hardest to ride in cycle lanes but when you f#####g car drivers park in the cycle lanes it makes it increasingly difficult to ride in a cycle lane doesn't it!! Seen as I'm sat here nursing broken ribs as a car opened its door in a cycle lane I believe you inconsiderate drivers are the cockwombles!! Rant over........ I don't park on cyclepaths or open car doors on them. I do swear at them though, oooh the language I use would make a Scunthorpe lass blush Guenevere, avert your ears! A Man is going to use profane language " | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! " Nothings changed nutters ripping around on their velocipedes. | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! Nothings changed nutters ripping around on their velocipedes. " Bring back the Penny Farthing, they're much more civilised | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike " I've seen plenty of car drivers jump red lights, ignore speed limits, cut up cyclists (who haven't done anything wrong), get angry and throw abuse and being self important and arrogant. The vehicle someone chooses to use isn't what makes them a total knob. It's simply the fact that they 'are' a total knob and will be in or out of a vehicle. | |||
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""They", "Them", self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, that's like saying all scousers are crooks. Go on, I dare you to start that thread too! As an aging wannabe sportster trying to chase my youth, I will politely say "go **** yourself", and refuse to be tarnished by the brush for a minority. As a serious answer to the question; why do I use the roads when there is a cycle lane? Pedestrians, parked cars, junctions, potholes, manhole covers, cambers. All a danger to me, and as petty as it may sound, yes, they slow me down and I'm trying to go as quick as I can!" I never mentioned Scousers, calm down, calm down, eh la' As long as you travel safely on your bicycle and adhere to the highway code, all is good | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. " Is it so common? I recall seeing one case (which involved a fatality) in the news in recent years. | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. Is it so common? I recall seeing one case (which involved a fatality) in the news in recent years. " A daily occurance of pushbikes and pedestrians coming into contact and being injured. | |||
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"All will say is in my own experience, as bot a cyclist and motorist is good and bad in both camps. I agree with each argument. Now my rant. Them f#$King electric scooters. I live in Liverpool. On my way home tonight. I almost killed one d*unken student who just swerved in front of me. Last week a man in his 50s came across a pelican crossing whilst our light were on green. He had the cheek to berate me !!!!" The people on those scooters definitely need a licence and insurance! | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. Is it so common? I recall seeing one case (which involved a fatality) in the news in recent years. A daily occurance of pushbikes and pedestrians coming into contact and being injured." If it was such a widespread issue, wouldn't it be all over the news, to borrow a phrase? You can't have a minor prang in your automobile round our area without the local rag reporting on it. "Man reverses Renault into bollard outside Sainsbury's - woman traumatised" or some such BS..... | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. Is it so common? I recall seeing one case (which involved a fatality) in the news in recent years. A daily occurance of pushbikes and pedestrians coming into contact and being injured. If it was such a widespread issue, wouldn't it be all over the news, to borrow a phrase? You can't have a minor prang in your automobile round our area without the local rag reporting on it. "Man reverses Renault into bollard outside Sainsbury's - woman traumatised" or some such BS....." We have more exciting things happen around us | |||
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"What about pedestrians in the cycle lane gawping into there phones? " Their own fault if they get hit. | |||
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"What about pedestrians in the cycle lane gawping into there phones? " But it's fun playing chicken with phone zombies! Especially from the lower seating position of the Wheelchair. They can't see you till you're nearly upon them | |||
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"What about pedestrians in the cycle lane gawping into there phones? But it's fun playing chicken with phone zombies! Especially from the lower seating position of the Wheelchair. They can't see you till you're nearly upon them " Tis true,i like bowling over gormless schoolkids on the way to work | |||
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"What about pedestrians in the cycle lane gawping into there phones? " if they get hit then its on them | |||
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"How often do you ride in Nottingham? I recently did a road race there, where a van knocked one guy off requiring ambulance, and an idiot in a car proceeded to run a number of riders off the road (he was stopped by the police). in each case it wasn't the cyclists with their lack of airbags that were acting as dangerous road users. Fine cyclists can delay you a bit sometimes, but wait for a safe place to pass and a wee flex of your foot on the go pedal and you have made up the lost time. ALL road users should proceed with consideration for others. They don't consider that the rules of the road apply to them. Its commonplace for them to ride through red lights, ride more than two abreast, hold traffic up on purpose, ignore road signs and more, without any fines or warnings by the authorities." as a motorist do ever break the speed limit ? | |||
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"I'm a weaver. Love cycling but never seem to be able to get the bloody thing in a straight line. If the cycle path's ok I'll use it, otherwise I ride on the road." Try the footpath, nobody will mind. | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike I think you might find highway codes 204 to 225, you might find them interesting. Where in the Highway Code does it say they are allowed to go through red lights. Must have missed that one " It’s just after the bit about cycling on pavements being ok if the road is a hit busy or if it helps you skip a red light. | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. " Absolutely. All road users should pay for road usage, should be insured, and their equipment should be proven to be road-worthy. | |||
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"How often do you ride in Nottingham? I recently did a road race there, where a van knocked one guy off requiring ambulance, and an idiot in a car proceeded to run a number of riders off the road (he was stopped by the police). in each case it wasn't the cyclists with their lack of airbags that were acting as dangerous road users. Fine cyclists can delay you a bit sometimes, but wait for a safe place to pass and a wee flex of your foot on the go pedal and you have made up the lost time. ALL road users should proceed with consideration for others. They don't consider that the rules of the road apply to them. Its commonplace for them to ride through red lights, ride more than two abreast, hold traffic up on purpose, ignore road signs and more, without any fines or warnings by the authorities. as a motorist do ever break the speed limit ?" What? | |||
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"Well here comes my rant Mr pushbike hater...... I do try my very hardest to ride in cycle lanes but when you f#####g car drivers park in the cycle lanes it makes it increasingly difficult to ride in a cycle lane doesn't it!! Seen as I'm sat here nursing broken ribs as a car opened its door in a cycle lane I believe you inconsiderate drivers are the cockwombles!! Rant over........ " Ouch, wishing you a speedy recovery My council are having a big push on making dedicated cycling routes...one of the roads they are reviewing has 30+ cars parked illegally (daily), on the pavement... as a pedestrian i have to go into the road to get past the cars that are on said pavement | |||
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"I'm a cyclist and I use the road with the same courtesy I see many car users using. I find them in my experience a great breed! Yes, I was once knocked off my bike by a foolish one who challenged my obvious circumstantial right of way (another story) and didn't ride for 3 years because of that. In fact if considered its really an amazing road system! All the millions and so few accidents in comparison. The danger in being a cyclist is the better you are the more 'risks' you are inclined to take. You know what your doing and are in total control of that but can the car owner read what's on your mind? This thread is a good reminder to curb the sometimes 'showmanship' for self gratification! * I always give learner drivers room to learn without extra pressures..take note others!" I use cycle paths wherever they are present and enjoy the chill out time they bring. | |||
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"I'm a cyclist and I use the road with the same courtesy I see many car users using. I find them in my experience a great breed! Yes, I was once knocked off my bike by a foolish one who challenged my obvious circumstantial right of way (another story) and didn't ride for 3 years because of that. In fact if considered its really an amazing road system! All the millions and so few accidents in comparison. The danger in being a cyclist is the better you are the more 'risks' you are inclined to take. You know what your doing and are in total control of that but can the car owner read what's on your mind? This thread is a good reminder to curb the sometimes 'showmanship' for self gratification! * I always give learner drivers room to learn without extra pressures..take note others!" I have used the roads for bicycles, motorbikes, cars, vans and lorries in my driving and riding experience. No matter how in control you think you are of a vehicle/bike, it is the lack of concentration and judgement, or the beligerent attitudes to other road users that puts us all at peril. Cyclists have very little regard for the simple rules laid out for everyone to adhere to. Red light runners take far too many risks, that the paying motorists pick the cost uo for and the blame. The groups of cyclists that ride together are a pain in the arse! | |||
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"I'm a cyclist and I use the road with the same courtesy I see many car users using. I find them in my experience a great breed! Yes, I was once knocked off my bike by a foolish one who challenged my obvious circumstantial right of way (another story) and didn't ride for 3 years because of that. In fact if considered its really an amazing road system! All the millions and so few accidents in comparison. The danger in being a cyclist is the better you are the more 'risks' you are inclined to take. You know what your doing and are in total control of that but can the car owner read what's on your mind? This thread is a good reminder to curb the sometimes 'showmanship' for self gratification! * I always give learner drivers room to learn without extra pressures..take note others! I have used the roads for bicycles, motorbikes, cars, vans and lorries in my driving and riding experience. No matter how in control you think you are of a vehicle/bike, it is the lack of concentration and judgement, or the beligerent attitudes to other road users that puts us all at peril. Cyclists have very little regard for the simple rules laid out for everyone to adhere to. Red light runners take far too many risks, that the paying motorists pick the cost uo for and the blame. The groups of cyclists that ride together are a pain in the arse!" Competence of road users is a big issue. Drivers of motor vehicles have to pass tests and their vehicles have to pass tests to prove roadworthiness. There are no such controls for cyclists, any eejit can hop on a bike and head out on the road, and since Covid in particular, more than ever have done so. The standard of cycling on the country lanes where I live is just abysmal. | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. " Im a very keen cyclist and do in fact have public liability insurance through my bike insurance | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. Im a very keen cyclist and do in fact have public liability insurance through my bike insurance" Good for you. The question was whether this should be a requirement though. Similarly, I play golf, I have specialist golf insurance in case I injure someone in the course or they injure me. Seems sensible to me, but it is not required for me to have such insurance | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. Im a very keen cyclist and do in fact have public liability insurance through my bike insurance Good for you. The question was whether this should be a requirement though. Similarly, I play golf, I have specialist golf insurance in case I injure someone in the course or they injure me. Seems sensible to me, but it is not required for me to have such insurance " Sure and I think riding on the road it should be a requirement | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. Im a very keen cyclist and do in fact have public liability insurance through my bike insurance Good for you. The question was whether this should be a requirement though. Similarly, I play golf, I have specialist golf insurance in case I injure someone in the course or they injure me. Seems sensible to me, but it is not required for me to have such insurance Sure and I think riding on the road it should be a requirement" How would it be policed though? Bikes would need some easy identification like a number plate. What age would need to start being insured? I think it has a place but a lot of detail needs to be worked out | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. Im a very keen cyclist and do in fact have public liability insurance through my bike insurance Good for you. The question was whether this should be a requirement though. Similarly, I play golf, I have specialist golf insurance in case I injure someone in the course or they injure me. Seems sensible to me, but it is not required for me to have such insurance Sure and I think riding on the road it should be a requirement" Agreed. Can you imagine the greetin’ though if this was suggested, people saying they are being robbed of their freedom. | |||
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"Well here comes my rant Mr pushbike hater...... I do try my very hardest to ride in cycle lanes but when you f#####g car drivers park in the cycle lanes it makes it increasingly difficult to ride in a cycle lane doesn't it!! Seen as I'm sat here nursing broken ribs as a car opened its door in a cycle lane I believe you inconsiderate drivers are the cockwombles!! Rant over........ " what he said | |||
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"Lots of cycle lanes are either part of the current walkway and as such are walked on, sometimes by dog owners with retractable leads you also have ramps up and down to the road, people who reverse out of there drives with ice or dew on there windows is easier, safer and faster to be on the road not to mention less damage to your wheels The cycle lanes at the side of the roads in the gutter are where all the debris collects, glass, broken and jagged plastic etc, the highway code states you need to give a cyclist 2 metres any less than that and you are liable to prosecution. If you go to other European countries motorists have a lot more respect for cyclists, think about those cyclists doing good, if they weren't in the bike they would have taken a car and that would lead to more cars in the road etc etc" Yeah that’s all great, but the standard of cycling in this country is abysmal | |||
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"Lots of cycle lanes are either part of the current walkway and as such are walked on, sometimes by dog owners with retractable leads you also have ramps up and down to the road, people who reverse out of there drives with ice or dew on there windows is easier, safer and faster to be on the road not to mention less damage to your wheels The cycle lanes at the side of the roads in the gutter are where all the debris collects, glass, broken and jagged plastic etc, the highway code states you need to give a cyclist 2 metres any less than that and you are liable to prosecution. If you go to other European countries motorists have a lot more respect for cyclists, think about those cyclists doing good, if they weren't in the bike they would have taken a car and that would lead to more cars in the road etc etc Yeah that’s all great, but the standard of cycling in this country is abysmal" It’s a higher level than current standard of driving. These cars that cost a fortune, don’t appear to come with indicators. | |||
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"Lots of cycle lanes are either part of the current walkway and as such are walked on, sometimes by dog owners with retractable leads you also have ramps up and down to the road, people who reverse out of there drives with ice or dew on there windows is easier, safer and faster to be on the road not to mention less damage to your wheels The cycle lanes at the side of the roads in the gutter are where all the debris collects, glass, broken and jagged plastic etc, the highway code states you need to give a cyclist 2 metres any less than that and you are liable to prosecution. If you go to other European countries motorists have a lot more respect for cyclists, think about those cyclists doing good, if they weren't in the bike they would have taken a car and that would lead to more cars in the road etc etc Yeah that’s all great, but the standard of cycling in this country is abysmal It’s a higher level than current standard of driving. These cars that cost a fortune, don’t appear to come with indicators." As someone who both cycles and drives, and has done so in several countries, the overall standard of driving in this country is pretty good, the standard of cycling isn’t. | |||
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"Lots of cycle lanes are either part of the current walkway and as such are walked on, sometimes by dog owners with retractable leads you also have ramps up and down to the road, people who reverse out of there drives with ice or dew on there windows is easier, safer and faster to be on the road not to mention less damage to your wheels The cycle lanes at the side of the roads in the gutter are where all the debris collects, glass, broken and jagged plastic etc, the highway code states you need to give a cyclist 2 metres any less than that and you are liable to prosecution. If you go to other European countries motorists have a lot more respect for cyclists, think about those cyclists doing good, if they weren't in the bike they would have taken a car and that would lead to more cars in the road etc etc" Cycle lanes that just end nowhere. Also overgrown, dog poo, human pop, sick. Wanky people wombling along with no idea or concern of who else is around. Walking two a abreast & when you ring the bell they either can’t hear, choose not to hear, or they panic, dart about or weirdly, change sides but still block the pavement . The problem lies with stupid cunts. And stupid cunts walk, cycle, drive. Now we have the added incendiary element of arrogant stupid cunts on electric scooters. It’s getting worse out there people! | |||
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"Lots of cycle lanes are either part of the current walkway and as such are walked on, sometimes by dog owners with retractable leads you also have ramps up and down to the road, people who reverse out of there drives with ice or dew on there windows is easier, safer and faster to be on the road not to mention less damage to your wheels The cycle lanes at the side of the roads in the gutter are where all the debris collects, glass, broken and jagged plastic etc, the highway code states you need to give a cyclist 2 metres any less than that and you are liable to prosecution. If you go to other European countries motorists have a lot more respect for cyclists, think about those cyclists doing good, if they weren't in the bike they would have taken a car and that would lead to more cars in the road etc etc Cycle lanes that just end nowhere. Also overgrown, dog poo, human pop, sick. Wanky people wombling along with no idea or concern of who else is around. Walking two a abreast & when you ring the bell they either can’t hear, choose not to hear, or they panic, dart about or weirdly, change sides but still block the pavement . The problem lies with stupid cunts. And stupid cunts walk, cycle, drive. Now we have the added incendiary element of arrogant stupid cunts on electric scooters. It’s getting worse out there people! " Make this man Prime Minister | |||
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"This annoys me somewhat. As both a car driver & a motorbike rider. Cyclists are just trying to get somewhere, same as us. Literally if you can’t take 10 seconds to wait for a suitable place to overtake safely, then perhaps a reconsideration of licence is needed. If they can’t use a cycle lane for whatever purpose, then hang back, let them get themselves clear and then carry on. It’s not the end of the world. If they go through a red light and get injured, that’s on them. It really isn’t a massive problem whatever way you look at it. As I was told, “Ride your own ride”. " The cyclists I refer to are the ones riding in groups that block traffic, pay no heed to highway laws and have total disregard for other road users. They're riding their own ride without any respect for others. | |||
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" The problem lies with stupid cunts. And stupid cunts walk, cycle, drive. Now we have the added incendiary element of arrogant stupid cunts on electric scooters. It’s getting worse out there people! " I drive, ride a motorcycle and ride a bicycle. I seem to be a mobile target whatever form of transport I use no matter how defensively I use the road! | |||
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"Do think bike riders should av insurance .know there bikes costs thousands so surely u want 2 protect it if ur involved in crash with a car .. my friend ad cyclist hit his car few years ago .After making sure he was OK bloke rode off .my m8 was left with £800 repair bill 4 his car .x " I do as do many others through British cycling | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike I've seen plenty of car drivers jump red lights, ignore speed limits, cut up cyclists (who haven't done anything wrong), get angry and throw abuse and being self important and arrogant. The vehicle someone chooses to use isn't what makes them a total knob. It's simply the fact that they 'are' a total knob and will be in or out of a vehicle. " This is spot on. | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! " I suggest instead of renting about other people, lumping people into one category as though everyone you pace in that category thinks and acts the same, why don't you try it and find out why. Cycle paths are only any use for gentle little rides with the kids. They are full of pedestrians who blithely walk down the middle of a narrow path and then get upset when you cycle past and make them jump, plus people, dogs and kids who randomly change direction. If you want to cycle for either fitness or an effective means of transport they are utterly useless. I rode with a friend the other evening on a mountain road near us, two abreast and got a load of abuse. The reason we rode two abreast is its a road with lots of shallow bends, people regularly do well over the 60mph limit and there is not enough room for two cars and a cyclist. Any overtake requires a driver to cross the white line, so it makes no difference if you are two abreast or not - in fact it makes an overtake quicker and safer for the driver yet we still got hooted at. Are there bad cyclist? Sure. Are there selfish cyclists? Sure. There are bad and selfish drivers too. There are also lots and lots of decent normal people who are a bit tired/busy/simply not paying attention who are in control of objects that kill. All the seconds lost stuck behind all the cyclists in the world don't pay for the life of one cyclist killed by careless or dangerous driving, never mind the 100 or so killed EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Stop being a cunt, calm down, learn a bit of patience and understand that you are no more important than everyone else. We live in a busy busy world which means we all have to look out for each other. One of those "self entitled arseholes" could be the surgeon who operates to save your life when you give yourself a heartattack out of uncontrolled rage. There is likely no part of your life from the food you eat to the toilet paper you wipe your arse with that doesn't rely in part on people who cycle at some point in their life, they're not cyclists they're human beings. Rant over Mr | |||
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"I’m one of those cyclists that frowns at cyclists who tar the rest of us reasonable ones, yes there are a few. The thread rather lazily doesn’t differentiate between the tribes of cyclists that use the roads, a lot of you haters seem to conflate commuting cycling with sport or leisure cycling, youths and ebikes. You talk as though we all are the same breed and roam in posing packs. The red light thing is bonkers and in my extensive research (one or two people who I know) they tend to be commuter cyclists who are car owners. Now regards helmets, if you cycle without one you’re an acquired brain injury waiting to happen and Darwinism will eventually triumph. Lycra, I know you anti cyclists like to take the piss, try cycling over 10 miles without the right gear, chaffing requiring the worlds supply of sudo creme let me tell you. :-0 There is a snobbery in cycling, the peloton rams horn packs who look down on anything that’s not up to today’s latest spec, or on solo riders who like the solitude and are not out posing. Cycle lanes, tokenistic shit shows that are repurposed pedestrian paths geared for pedestrians not wheeled transport. In my experience the vast majority of knob head cyclists are in fact car users and pay road tax, if not in their cars but on bikes the road is less damaged or congested so the road tax argument is somewhat flawed. Now the interesting part, hold tight fuckers, the new Highway Code will give priority to pedestrians then cyclists before cars etc. Whatever you think, however much you rant, car owners who seem to need bigger and bigger cars, are going to find that the law will start to become tighter for car owners and not pedestrians or cyclists, rightly or wrongly it’s the way things are going. Next time you’re tempted to pull into the kerb to impede a cyclist just take a long hard look at yourself, that’s on you and your blood pressure " Need an option to fab forum posts | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! " Many times you see them speeding, tailgating, pretending to be in F1, hindering the traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. They use the road like they own it and nobody else belongs. They throw shit from their windows and pollute the countryside. Overtake dangerously and drive while on their phones. Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe drivers trying to chase their youth? Rant over! | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! I suggest instead of renting about other people, lumping people into one category as though everyone you pace in that category thinks and acts the same, why don't you try it and find out why. Cycle paths are only any use for gentle little rides with the kids. They are full of pedestrians who blithely walk down the middle of a narrow path and then get upset when you cycle past and make them jump, plus people, dogs and kids who randomly change direction. If you want to cycle for either fitness or an effective means of transport they are utterly useless. I rode with a friend the other evening on a mountain road near us, two abreast and got a load of abuse. The reason we rode two abreast is its a road with lots of shallow bends, people regularly do well over the 60mph limit and there is not enough room for two cars and a cyclist. Any overtake requires a driver to cross the white line, so it makes no difference if you are two abreast or not - in fact it makes an overtake quicker and safer for the driver yet we still got hooted at. Are there bad cyclist? Sure. Are there selfish cyclists? Sure. There are bad and selfish drivers too. There are also lots and lots of decent normal people who are a bit tired/busy/simply not paying attention who are in control of objects that kill. All the seconds lost stuck behind all the cyclists in the world don't pay for the life of one cyclist killed by careless or dangerous driving, never mind the 100 or so killed EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Stop being a cunt, calm down, learn a bit of patience and understand that you are no more important than everyone else. We live in a busy busy world which means we all have to look out for each other. One of those "self entitled arseholes" could be the surgeon who operates to save your life when you give yourself a heartattack out of uncontrolled rage. There is likely no part of your life from the food you eat to the toilet paper you wipe your arse with that doesn't rely in part on people who cycle at some point in their life, they're not cyclists they're human beings. Rant over Mr" I ride a bike too. On the road and cyclepaths. I don't descend into an uncontrolled rage, in fact, this thread was posted with tongue firmly in cheek. As for your reference to being a cunt, yes I am, I'm proud to be a cunt. A cunt, or cunt, holds the highest accolade. It weilds the ultimate power. Cunt has bought kings from their thrones, soldiers from their horses, men and women crawl and beg for cunt, from the moment we leave a cunt, we try to get back in them for the rest of our lives! Cunt holds the power of life over death, cunt can extract a persons most inner secrets, cunt has the ultimate power. Sir, I am proud to be a cunt! | |||
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"I'm a cyclist and I use the road with the same courtesy I see many car users using. I find them in my experience a great breed! Yes, I was once knocked off my bike by a foolish one who challenged my obvious circumstantial right of way (another story) and didn't ride for 3 years because of that. In fact if considered its really an amazing road system! All the millions and so few accidents in comparison. The danger in being a cyclist is the better you are the more 'risks' you are inclined to take. You know what your doing and are in total control of that but can the car owner read what's on your mind? This thread is a good reminder to curb the sometimes 'showmanship' for self gratification! * I always give learner drivers room to learn without extra pressures..take note others! I have used the roads for bicycles, motorbikes, cars, vans and lorries in my driving and riding experience. No matter how in control you think you are of a vehicle/bike, it is the lack of concentration and judgement, or the beligerent attitudes to other road users that puts us all at peril. Cyclists have very little regard for the simple rules laid out for everyone to adhere to. Red light runners take far too many risks, that the paying motorists pick the cost uo for and the blame. The groups of cyclists that ride together are a pain in the arse!" It’s one of the acknowledged facts of motoring that anyone who thinks they know how other people cycle / drive and considers them doing it badly is usually themselves one of the least capable drivers on the road. | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! I suggest instead of renting about other people, lumping people into one category as though everyone you pace in that category thinks and acts the same, why don't you try it and find out why. Cycle paths are only any use for gentle little rides with the kids. They are full of pedestrians who blithely walk down the middle of a narrow path and then get upset when you cycle past and make them jump, plus people, dogs and kids who randomly change direction. If you want to cycle for either fitness or an effective means of transport they are utterly useless. I rode with a friend the other evening on a mountain road near us, two abreast and got a load of abuse. The reason we rode two abreast is its a road with lots of shallow bends, people regularly do well over the 60mph limit and there is not enough room for two cars and a cyclist. Any overtake requires a driver to cross the white line, so it makes no difference if you are two abreast or not - in fact it makes an overtake quicker and safer for the driver yet we still got hooted at. Are there bad cyclist? Sure. Are there selfish cyclists? Sure. There are bad and selfish drivers too. There are also lots and lots of decent normal people who are a bit tired/busy/simply not paying attention who are in control of objects that kill. All the seconds lost stuck behind all the cyclists in the world don't pay for the life of one cyclist killed by careless or dangerous driving, never mind the 100 or so killed EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Stop being a cunt, calm down, learn a bit of patience and understand that you are no more important than everyone else. We live in a busy busy world which means we all have to look out for each other. One of those "self entitled arseholes" could be the surgeon who operates to save your life when you give yourself a heartattack out of uncontrolled rage. There is likely no part of your life from the food you eat to the toilet paper you wipe your arse with that doesn't rely in part on people who cycle at some point in their life, they're not cyclists they're human beings. Rant over Mr I ride a bike too. On the road and cyclepaths. I don't descend into an uncontrolled rage, in fact, this thread was posted with tongue firmly in cheek. As for your reference to being a cunt, yes I am, I'm proud to be a cunt. A cunt, or cunt, holds the highest accolade. It weilds the ultimate power. Cunt has bought kings from their thrones, soldiers from their horses, men and women crawl and beg for cunt, from the moment we leave a cunt, we try to get back in them for the rest of our lives! Cunt holds the power of life over death, cunt can extract a persons most inner secrets, cunt has the ultimate power. Sir, I am proud to be a cunt! " See, the thing is, it may be tongue in cheek to you but words are powerful things. There are many many other drivers on the roads who genuinely believe the drivel you've written, for whom posts like this act as justification for their aggressive and dangerous behavoir. Sorry, but I fail to find anything tongue in cheek in a post that promotes hate of a group to which I belong, calling it a joke is shitty, cowardly behavoir. Mr | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! I suggest instead of renting about other people, lumping people into one category as though everyone you pace in that category thinks and acts the same, why don't you try it and find out why. Cycle paths are only any use for gentle little rides with the kids. They are full of pedestrians who blithely walk down the middle of a narrow path and then get upset when you cycle past and make them jump, plus people, dogs and kids who randomly change direction. If you want to cycle for either fitness or an effective means of transport they are utterly useless. I rode with a friend the other evening on a mountain road near us, two abreast and got a load of abuse. The reason we rode two abreast is its a road with lots of shallow bends, people regularly do well over the 60mph limit and there is not enough room for two cars and a cyclist. Any overtake requires a driver to cross the white line, so it makes no difference if you are two abreast or not - in fact it makes an overtake quicker and safer for the driver yet we still got hooted at. Are there bad cyclist? Sure. Are there selfish cyclists? Sure. There are bad and selfish drivers too. There are also lots and lots of decent normal people who are a bit tired/busy/simply not paying attention who are in control of objects that kill. All the seconds lost stuck behind all the cyclists in the world don't pay for the life of one cyclist killed by careless or dangerous driving, never mind the 100 or so killed EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Stop being a cunt, calm down, learn a bit of patience and understand that you are no more important than everyone else. We live in a busy busy world which means we all have to look out for each other. One of those "self entitled arseholes" could be the surgeon who operates to save your life when you give yourself a heartattack out of uncontrolled rage. There is likely no part of your life from the food you eat to the toilet paper you wipe your arse with that doesn't rely in part on people who cycle at some point in their life, they're not cyclists they're human beings. Rant over Mr I ride a bike too. On the road and cyclepaths. I don't descend into an uncontrolled rage, in fact, this thread was posted with tongue firmly in cheek. As for your reference to being a cunt, yes I am, I'm proud to be a cunt. A cunt, or cunt, holds the highest accolade. It weilds the ultimate power. Cunt has bought kings from their thrones, soldiers from their horses, men and women crawl and beg for cunt, from the moment we leave a cunt, we try to get back in them for the rest of our lives! Cunt holds the power of life over death, cunt can extract a persons most inner secrets, cunt has the ultimate power. Sir, I am proud to be a cunt! See, the thing is, it may be tongue in cheek to you but words are powerful things. There are many many other drivers on the roads who genuinely believe the drivel you've written, for whom posts like this act as justification for their aggressive and dangerous behavoir. Sorry, but I fail to find anything tongue in cheek in a post that promotes hate of a group to which I belong, calling it a joke is shitty, cowardly behavoir. Mr" Please point out where I said I hate cyclists. This thread was posted with humour, irony and nothing more intended. There are far worse comments than mine that show hatred for drivers. Obviously some have read the above post with a bee in their bonnet and a negative view. That is their prerogative, such is mine to inject a touch of humour to a thread started as I said, tongue firmly in cheek. I'm not backpeddling on what I said (see what I did there? ) God forbid I post my next subject, Should Traffic Wardens Be Armed? In fact, fuck it, I will Please forum folks, stop being so serious and read posts with a light heart and enjoyment, instead of negativity and judgement, life ks too short | |||
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" Please point out where I said I hate cyclists. This thread was posted with humour, irony and nothing more intended. There are far worse comments than mine that show hatred for drivers. Obviously some have read the above post with a bee in their bonnet and a negative view. That is their prerogative, such is mine to inject a touch of humour to a thread started as I said, tongue firmly in cheek. " Having reread your original post I don't think much humour or irony shines through. It's hard to get jokes across well with text, especially if people don't know you very well and don't know the context. People feel strongly about this subject so whether you meant to or not you've opened up a can of worms. Neither of us drive. We cycle, walk or use public transport. Cycling can be a scary thing to do, as however careful you are you know one bad move by a driver could easily kill you. I fully admit to cycling on the pavement or road or rare cycle path when I come across one - whichever I feel is the safest thing to do. But it is always with consideration to others. When we take the children out on their bikes or in the bike trailer or the bike seat we use the safest way possible. If this makes drivers angry so be it. They clearly need to calm down. Our lives are just as important and precious as theirs, same as any cyclist - whichever road they're on or whatever they happen to be wearing. | |||
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" Please point out where I said I hate cyclists. This thread was posted with humour, irony and nothing more intended. There are far worse comments than mine that show hatred for drivers. Obviously some have read the above post with a bee in their bonnet and a negative view. That is their prerogative, such is mine to inject a touch of humour to a thread started as I said, tongue firmly in cheek. Having reread your original post I don't think much humour or irony shines through. It's hard to get jokes across well with text, especially if people don't know you very well and don't know the context. People feel strongly about this subject so whether you meant to or not you've opened up a can of worms. Neither of us drive. We cycle, walk or use public transport. Cycling can be a scary thing to do, as however careful you are you know one bad move by a driver could easily kill you. I fully admit to cycling on the pavement or road or rare cycle path when I come across one - whichever I feel is the safest thing to do. But it is always with consideration to others. When we take the children out on their bikes or in the bike trailer or the bike seat we use the safest way possible. If this makes drivers angry so be it. They clearly need to calm down. Our lives are just as important and precious as theirs, same as any cyclist - whichever road they're on or whatever they happen to be wearing." That is very true. I think the fact people didn't see the funny side has opened a can of worms. I thought the part about lycra clad rent boys would have pointed to that, but obviously not. I do have a warped sense of humour, as those who know me can confirm. As you can see, no cyclists were harmed in any way during this post and no harm is wished upon them or anyone, unlike some of the comments from people adding their tw pence worth. I hold no judgement or harm against anyone. Anyway, back to the, tongue firmly in cheek, Should Traffic Wardens Be Armed, thread | |||
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"This annoys me somewhat. As both a car driver & a motorbike rider. Cyclists are just trying to get somewhere, same as us. Literally if you can’t take 10 seconds to wait for a suitable place to overtake safely, then perhaps a reconsideration of licence is needed. If they can’t use a cycle lane for whatever purpose, then hang back, let them get themselves clear and then carry on. It’s not the end of the world. If they go through a red light and get injured, that’s on them. It really isn’t a massive problem whatever way you look at it. As I was told, “Ride your own ride”. " No, bad cycling does not just affect cyclists. Yes, they may injure themselves, but they can also injure pedestrians, and can drag motorists into accidents . I was driving along the lane way I live on recently, approached a corner very slowly and around the corner came the lack of weekend road warriors, all having a loud yap, assuming no traffic or cyclists would be coming in the opposite direction. I couldn’t have been any further left, stopped immediately and one of these pricks hit the front of the car, completely in the wrong. Cyclists, particularly inexperienced ones, seem to overestimate their abilities. | |||
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"This annoys me somewhat. As both a car driver & a motorbike rider. Cyclists are just trying to get somewhere, same as us. Literally if you can’t take 10 seconds to wait for a suitable place to overtake safely, then perhaps a reconsideration of licence is needed. If they can’t use a cycle lane for whatever purpose, then hang back, let them get themselves clear and then carry on. It’s not the end of the world. If they go through a red light and get injured, that’s on them. It really isn’t a massive problem whatever way you look at it. As I was told, “Ride your own ride”. No, bad cycling does not just affect cyclists. Yes, they may injure themselves, but they can also injure pedestrians, and can drag motorists into accidents . I was driving along the lane way I live on recently, approached a corner very slowly and around the corner came the lack of weekend road warriors, all having a loud yap, assuming no traffic or cyclists would be coming in the opposite direction. I couldn’t have been any further left, stopped immediately and one of these pricks hit the front of the car, completely in the wrong. Cyclists, particularly inexperienced ones, seem to overestimate their abilities. " ... continued. If I had been doing even 10mph going into that corner I could have seriously injured the cyclist and everyone would think I’m a cunt. That’s not fair on motorists. | |||
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"Jeez, I came to this forum to get away from this sort of brain-dead discussion where people pick a side and then assume everyone on the opposite side is an idiot. I think the OP just likes to be contentious for kicks. Stirring up a hornet's nest gives him a vicarious thrill. Don't feed the troll." As someone who is a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian at different times, I know what you mean. All are capable of reckless behaviour, endangering themselves or others, none are a blameless perfectly behaved group, but cyclists top the charts for reckless behaviour and lack of accountability. | |||
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"Jeez, I came to this forum to get away from this sort of brain-dead discussion where people pick a side and then assume everyone on the opposite side is an idiot. I think the OP just likes to be contentious for kicks. Stirring up a hornet's nest gives him a vicarious thrill. Don't feed the troll. As someone who is a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian at different times, I know what you mean. All are capable of reckless behaviour, endangering themselves or others, none are a blameless perfectly behaved group, but cyclists top the charts for reckless behaviour and lack of accountability. " Nope! That b the vehicle drivers! X | |||
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"Jeez, I came to this forum to get away from this sort of brain-dead discussion where people pick a side and then assume everyone on the opposite side is an idiot. I think the OP just likes to be contentious for kicks. Stirring up a hornet's nest gives him a vicarious thrill. Don't feed the troll. As someone who is a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian at different times, I know what you mean. All are capable of reckless behaviour, endangering themselves or others, none are a blameless perfectly behaved group, but cyclists top the charts for reckless behaviour and lack of accountability. Nope! That b the vehicle drivers! X" Nah. Yesterday alone, in the small town I live in: - entire group of mamils, cycling the wrong way down a street - lady cycling on footpath - group of ladies breaking red light together while pedestrians were crossing - bloke cycling with a shovel over his shoulder so unable to brake or control his bike properly ... all in the space of half an hour on a trip to the supermarket. Motoring offences noted on same trip: some wanker parked at a bus stop | |||
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"Jeez, I came to this forum to get away from this sort of brain-dead discussion where people pick a side and then assume everyone on the opposite side is an idiot. I think the OP just likes to be contentious for kicks. Stirring up a hornet's nest gives him a vicarious thrill. Don't feed the troll. As someone who is a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian at different times, I know what you mean. All are capable of reckless behaviour, endangering themselves or others, none are a blameless perfectly behaved group, but cyclists top the charts for reckless behaviour and lack of accountability. Nope! That b the vehicle drivers! X Nah. Yesterday alone, in the small town I live in: - entire group of mamils, cycling the wrong way down a street - lady cycling on footpath - group of ladies breaking red light together while pedestrians were crossing - bloke cycling with a shovel over his shoulder so unable to brake or control his bike properly ... all in the space of half an hour on a trip to the supermarket. Motoring offences noted on same trip: some wanker parked at a bus stop " I cycle everyday to and from work! A daily occurrence Veichles drive past to close! See them on their mobiles! They pass me and turn immediate left across my path instead of waiting! I signal with my arm that I need to move to middle as I'm turning right they speed past! So nah!x | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! " They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. " Please read my other comments regarding it being a joke | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. Please read my other comments regarding it being a joke " Yeah course it was! ! | |||
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"Jeez, I came to this forum to get away from this sort of brain-dead discussion where people pick a side and then assume everyone on the opposite side is an idiot. I think the OP just likes to be contentious for kicks. Stirring up a hornet's nest gives him a vicarious thrill. Don't feed the troll. As someone who is a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian at different times, I know what you mean. All are capable of reckless behaviour, endangering themselves or others, none are a blameless perfectly behaved group, but cyclists top the charts for reckless behaviour and lack of accountability. Nope! That b the vehicle drivers! X Nah. Yesterday alone, in the small town I live in: - entire group of mamils, cycling the wrong way down a street - lady cycling on footpath - group of ladies breaking red light together while pedestrians were crossing - bloke cycling with a shovel over his shoulder so unable to brake or control his bike properly ... all in the space of half an hour on a trip to the supermarket. Motoring offences noted on same trip: some wanker parked at a bus stop I cycle everyday to and from work! A daily occurrence Veichles drive past to close! See them on their mobiles! They pass me and turn immediate left across my path instead of waiting! I signal with my arm that I need to move to middle as I'm turning right they speed past! So nah!x" Sorry to hear that, but as someone who is both a cyclist and a motorist myself, and not someone who is firmly in one camp and sees the others as all bad, my balanced view is that cyclists in this country are a lot more reckless than motorists. It’s different in other countries. I have spent a lot of time in Belgium, Holland and France and the standard of cycling is far better there and the standard of driving is a lot worse. I think the situation has got worse since covid as more amateurs have taken to the roads on two wheels, clowns that don’t have the experience that you clearly have, overestimating their abilities. | |||
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"Jeez, I came to this forum to get away from this sort of brain-dead discussion where people pick a side and then assume everyone on the opposite side is an idiot. I think the OP just likes to be contentious for kicks. Stirring up a hornet's nest gives him a vicarious thrill. Don't feed the troll. As someone who is a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian at different times, I know what you mean. All are capable of reckless behaviour, endangering themselves or others, none are a blameless perfectly behaved group, but cyclists top the charts for reckless behaviour and lack of accountability. Nope! That b the vehicle drivers! X Nah. Yesterday alone, in the small town I live in: - entire group of mamils, cycling the wrong way down a street - lady cycling on footpath - group of ladies breaking red light together while pedestrians were crossing - bloke cycling with a shovel over his shoulder so unable to brake or control his bike properly ... all in the space of half an hour on a trip to the supermarket. Motoring offences noted on same trip: some wanker parked at a bus stop I cycle everyday to and from work! A daily occurrence Veichles drive past to close! See them on their mobiles! They pass me and turn immediate left across my path instead of waiting! I signal with my arm that I need to move to middle as I'm turning right they speed past! So nah!x Sorry to hear that, but as someone who is both a cyclist and a motorist myself, and not someone who is firmly in one camp and sees the others as all bad, my balanced view is that cyclists in this country are a lot more reckless than motorists. It’s different in other countries. I have spent a lot of time in Belgium, Holland and France and the standard of cycling is far better there and the standard of driving is a lot worse. I think the situation has got worse since covid as more amateurs have taken to the roads on two wheels, clowns that don’t have the experience that you clearly have, overestimating their abilities. " We shall have to agree to disagree on this one! X | |||
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"People. Just take a look at the replies and see where the problem lies. Negativity, knows no bounds. May I point out that if a woman had posted this thread, then there would have been a different outcome of fawning and arse kissing Please, stop being so serious " x | |||
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"People. Just take a look at the replies and see where the problem lies. Negativity, knows no bounds. May I point out that if a woman had posted this thread, then there would have been a different outcome of fawning and arse kissing Please, stop being so serious " Did I just open another can of worms with that statement? Will I ever learn? | |||
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"I think the situation has got worse since covid as more amateurs have taken to the roads on two wheels, clowns that don’t have the experience that you clearly have, overestimating their abilities. " I've noticed far more aggressive driving since the first lockdown. Your 'balanced' view seems very one sided. | |||
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"People. Just take a look at the replies and see where the problem lies. Negativity, knows no bounds. May I point out that if a woman had posted this thread, then there would have been a different outcome of fawning and arse kissing Please, stop being so serious " That's the problem when you provoke the self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers. | |||
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"People. Just take a look at the replies and see where the problem lies. Negativity, knows no bounds. May I point out that if a woman had posted this thread, then there would have been a different outcome of fawning and arse kissing Please, stop being so serious That's the problem when you provoke the self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers." x | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike I think you might find highway codes 204 to 225, you might find them interesting. Where in the Highway Code does it say they are allowed to go through red lights. Must have missed that one " And car drivers never run red lights? | |||
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"There’s a lot of ‘Lycra envy’ from non cyclists. They know that once we slip into that gear we instantly look like and become sex gods." Some do. I’ve been known to be reluctant to overtake for this reason | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike I've seen plenty of car drivers jump red lights, ignore speed limits, cut up cyclists (who haven't done anything wrong), get angry and throw abuse and being self important and arrogant. The vehicle someone chooses to use isn't what makes them a total knob. It's simply the fact that they 'are' a total knob and will be in or out of a vehicle. " 100% agree with this. Exactly what is wrong with society. People are grouping different little groups and taking them all with the same brush. What we should be doing is fixing the knobs. | |||
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"There’s a lot of ‘Lycra envy’ from non cyclists. They know that once we slip into that gear we instantly look like and become sex gods. Some do. I’ve been known to be reluctant to overtake for this reason " Aha. Noted. | |||
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"The question is, should cyclists have insurance? Public liability or personal insurance, road users should all be insured. The amount of cyclists on pavements that collide with pedestrians then piss off without a care is a common occurence. " The vast majority of us cyclists have public liability insurance, especially those who are members of British Cycling etc. The above point about potential risk to pedestrians is why cyclist take to the road. You have successfully answered your own argument. Thank you. | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike I think you might find highway codes 204 to 225, you might find them interesting. Where in the Highway Code does it say they are allowed to go through red lights. Must have missed that one And car drivers never run red lights? " Yes they do, but nowhere near the same extent as cyclists do. Also quite rare to find a car driving the wrong way down a one way street or driving along the pavement. | |||
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"People. Just take a look at the replies and see where the problem lies. Negativity, knows no bounds. May I point out that if a woman had posted this thread, then there would have been a different outcome of fawning and arse kissing Please, stop being so serious That's the problem when you provoke the self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers." Very valid point It looks like they've made themselves known, me included | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. Please read my other comments regarding it being a joke " Ahhh, a classic case of Schrödingers douche bag: ‘An individual, generally male, who says offensive things and decides based on the reaction of those around them whether or not they were kidding.’ | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. Please read my other comments regarding it being a joke Ahhh, a classic case of Schrödingers douche bag: ‘An individual, generally male, who says offensive things and decides based on the reaction of those around them whether or not they were kidding.’ " Aaaahh. A classic case of white knighting a bandwagon | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike " | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike I think you might find highway codes 204 to 225, you might find them interesting. Where in the Highway Code does it say they are allowed to go through red lights. Must have missed that one " Plus slap your wing-mirror without care, happen over here also. | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. Please read my other comments regarding it being a joke Ahhh, a classic case of Schrödingers douche bag: ‘An individual, generally male, who says offensive things and decides based on the reaction of those around them whether or not they were kidding.’ " The “it’s only bantah” defence | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. Please read my other comments regarding it being a joke Ahhh, a classic case of Schrödingers douche bag: ‘An individual, generally male, who says offensive things and decides based on the reaction of those around them whether or not they were kidding.’ The “it’s only bantah” defence " Never did I say "Its bantah". I said it was with tongue firmly in cheek. | |||
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"There’s a lot of ‘Lycra envy’ from non cyclists. They know that once we slip into that gear we instantly look like and become sex gods. Some do. I’ve been known to be reluctant to overtake for this reason " Trust you. | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. Please read my other comments regarding it being a joke Ahhh, a classic case of Schrödingers douche bag: ‘An individual, generally male, who says offensive things and decides based on the reaction of those around them whether or not they were kidding.’ Aaaahh. A classic case of white knighting a bandwagon " Im trying to save all those poor misunderstood bandwagons. | |||
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"That don't use the cyclepath. Right or wrong? Many times you see them weaving all over the road, pretending to be in the Tour De Farce, three or more abreast and hindering traffic and putting themselves and others at risk. Cyclepaths were put in place to give them their own place to ride at a safe distance from vehicles, but they slap some Lycra shorts on, dress like a gaudy rent boy in wrap around shades, then use the road like they've paid to use it. There's more pot holes on the roads than the cyclepaths, so why ride on the road? Are they just self entitled arseholes, antagonists and careless tossers, or are they aging wannabe sportsters trying to chase their youth? Rant over! They all agreed to do it solely to annoy you, looks like it’s working, which they will be pleased about, they’ve had another meeting and now they’re going to wear tighter Lycra and more garish colours, just to see if that gets you even more annoyed, I suggested putting white frilly bits on and adding more pink. How can anyone get that angry over other humans on a bike is fucking hilarious, save your energy on something more constructive and buy yourself a little bicycle, I suggest one with a bell and basket and go for a little ride in the country and take in the beautiful vistas this country has to offer, then you may feel calmer. Please read my other comments regarding it being a joke Ahhh, a classic case of Schrödingers douche bag: ‘An individual, generally male, who says offensive things and decides based on the reaction of those around them whether or not they were kidding.’ " Ha ha this exactly! X | |||
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"I'm Cyclist unfriendly. They believe the Highway Code doesn't apply to them, they have only right to use the roads. They go through red lights and give you abuse if you nearly hit them and kick your car. They are arrogant and self important and wear knob cams on their helmets - interpret that how you will There used to be a joke about how do you make a normal person into a complete FuckWhit, put them behind the wheel of a BMW. now its put them on a bike I think you might find highway codes 204 to 225, you might find them interesting. Where in the Highway Code does it say they are allowed to go through red lights. Must have missed that one " I know I'm sounding like a dog with bone! But today on this note of red lights! As I came out of work waiting at the crossing Not 1 Not 2 Not 3 But 4 went through the red light! In their eagerness to get to the garage for fuel! Bell ends in cars! x | |||
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"Instead of causing a pointless thread. Why not concentrate on those that are breaking the law. The cunts driving without a valid licence, without insurance, without an MOT, speeding, driving dangerously, etc. Surely those are more important to target, instead of cyclists not using a cycle path that is not fit for purpose." x | |||
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"All will say is in my own experience, as bot a cyclist and motorist is good and bad in both camps. I agree with each argument. Now my rant. Them f#$King electric scooters. I live in Liverpool. On my way home tonight. I almost killed one d*unken student who just swerved in front of me. Last week a man in his 50s came across a pelican crossing whilst our light were on green. He had the cheek to berate me !!!! The people on those scooters definitely need a licence and insurance!" They have a motor, therefore by law need insurance, also need to be registered. | |||
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