FabSwingers.com forum: Just because you have intelligence, does it mean you have common sense?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don’t think this is the case, so you?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Absolutely not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely not.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Two separate variables. Some have both, some have one, some have neither

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By *eedAbuse4HubbyCouple
over a year ago

North West

I usually find it’s like a scale…

One side is intelligence, the other common sense.

Those that I’ve met who are super intelligent, have literally no common sense and vica verca

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

As proved by a previous flatmate - double 1st from Cambridge zero ability to drill a hole through a wall

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Common sense is not a flower that grows in everybody's garden academically gifted or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my experience, some of the brainiest people i know (neuroscientists) have very little common sense

Their brains are probably bored resolving such trifling issues

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

I've come across a few in my line of work who possess intelligence but lack common sense.

So unfortunately the two aren't mutually exclusive.

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"As proved by a previous flatmate - double 1st from Cambridge zero ability to drill a hole through a wall

I wouldn't say being able to drill is common sense, that's a skill in it's own right.

I do agree though that intelligence and common sense often don't go hand in hand

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

No but it also doesn't mean you don't have it.

Both can coexist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm being semantic about words perhaps, but if you lack common sense you're not intelligent. You're well read maybe, academically trained, authoritative on whatever subjects you studied, but not intelligent. I don't think knowledge is intelligence.

I read the phrase "promoted beyond his ability" about a politician once and it made a lot of sense. Educated doesn't mean clever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You'd need to define both to judge that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

100% not. The stories I have of a friend and his brother both graduated from Cambridge but almost literally not the common sense to come in from the rain.

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

I have an abundance of common sense…it’s a blessing and curse at times (when I see people with none

I’m middle ground when it comes to intelligence, so don’t feel they go hand in hand at all.

A lot of the people I know who are intelligent have no common sense at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You'd need to define both to judge that."

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reminds of someone who always used the expression,

Academically brilliant and practically useless.

In answer to tour question its a no.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

No it doesn't but it doesn't mean you don't have it either. It's a bit like the all good looking people have awful personalities myth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So are we defining intelligence as "having knowledge" and "educated"? Cause I don't agree. That isn't intelligence. This might imply that the protected tribes who survive simply in the Amazon without knowledge of the wider world are not intelligent.

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By *tes2010Man
over a year ago

Near you

I must be thick because I’ve got loads of common sense

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

It can absolutely be the case that common sense and intelligence don't go hand in hand. They don't have to be mutually exclusive though.

Multiple types of intelligence, from straight up IQ to EQ etc are more and more becoming the norm. There's no fixed rules on ratios between them

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

Right? The smartest person I've ever met is not educated in the slightest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, I know a lot of very intelligent and academic people who have 0 common sense and also lack of empathy …. So yeah…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not always in my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mate of mine is an anaesthetist. She’s thick as mince.

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

Nope. I've worked with guys with astronomical IQs.. but can't cross the road without help.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

Right? The smartest person I've ever met is not educated in the slightest."

Exactly, to me common sense is another word for intellect. I don't personally put value over one kind intelligence over the other.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Very true, and intelligent people don't know everything about everything.

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By *kaythen07Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I know plenty of intelligent dumb arses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

I would add the ability to absorb and acquire knowledge too.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

No, I work with a lot of extremely intelligent people... yet in many ways they are really stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

Right? The smartest person I've ever met is not educated in the slightest.

Exactly, to me common sense is another word for intellect. I don't personally put value over one kind intelligence over the other."

Yes. Common sense is intelligence, exactly what I believe too.

Although I'm sure there are some who think those tribes I mentioned are all stupid because they don't have books. Utter nonsense.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

I would add the ability to absorb and acquire knowledge too. "

Yes definitely. My grandad and dad could barely

write but they were so intelligent about how to farm. And how to read nature around you it's blinking amazing.

I'm not as gifted as them in this knowledge but I do have a phd and intelligent in my chosen field.

Both different kinds of intelligence and both are as valid as the other in my opinion.

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By *ack688Man
over a year ago

abruzzo Italy (and UK)

Information isn’t knowledge

Knowledge isn’t intelligence

Intelligence isn’t wisdom

And none of those are common sense

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Met a Professor probably the most intelligent person I’ve ever met (educational wise) his expertise was in climate change at Manchester University.

Was chatting to him as he was building an extension to the side of his house. He did it from a book and getting advice from his neighbour a builder who’d check on his work daily.

He could cross the road without help and chat about anything from music and film to climate change and rock climbing (his two massive loves).

So I have no doubt he has both qualities, makes a lovely Sunday lunch as well.

Yes ladies he’s single

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Information isn’t knowledge

Knowledge isn’t intelligence

Intelligence isn’t wisdom

And none of those are common sense"

You think it's possible to be wise and lack common sense? I really can't see that. Happy to be taught otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, Mr Leoblooms is a prime example of that.....

He is an intelligent man but he has no common sense because he keeps on trying to outwit me on here.... won't work Blooms

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth

No: look at the number of pregnancies/STI's that occur at Universities. Just being intelligent isn't enough, although both can happily coexist.

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By *ack688Man
over a year ago

abruzzo Italy (and UK)

"Information isn’t knowledge

Knowledge isn’t intelligence

Intelligence isn’t wisdom

And none of those are common sense

You think it's possible to be wise and lack common sense? I really can't see that. Happy to be taught otherwise."

Wisdom is something acquired over time through experience. common sense is something you generally are either born with, or not!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Information isn’t knowledge

Knowledge isn’t intelligence

Intelligence isn’t wisdom

And none of those are common sense

You think it's possible to be wise and lack common sense? I really can't see that. Happy to be taught otherwise.

Wisdom is something acquired over time through experience. common sense is something you generally are either born with, or not!"

Do you think someone who lacks common sense can be wise?

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

Well I have the papers, but I struggle to open a new cling film box......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You'd need to define both to judge that."

Spot on.

What is common sense to one may not be to another. Common sense isn't always so common.

A good education and a vast knowledge does not equate to intelligence and vice versa.

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough/ Kettering

Drive around Cambridge and see how many University students on bicycles turn right in front of you without looking or signalling! Probably in the top 10% of intelligence but in the bottom 10% of common sense

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

So by the logic of this thread, if you have common sense you lack intelligence?

Or is it just inverse snobbery?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Common sense is learned, as you don't just get it overnight.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"As proved by a previous flatmate - double 1st from Cambridge zero ability to drill a hole through a wall

A double first in what ? Wall Hole Drilling ?

How much common sense do you need to drill a hole through a wall ..... i'd have thought that took a lot of practise , know how and skill or even a natural flair.

I fail to see the link ..... unless it's.......

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm being semantic about words perhaps, but if you lack common sense you're not intelligent. You're well read maybe, academically trained, authoritative on whatever subjects you studied, but not intelligent. I don't think knowledge is intelligence.

I read the phrase "promoted beyond his ability" about a politician once and it made a lot of sense. Educated doesn't mean clever."

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Apart from the first sentence.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"You'd need to define both to judge that."

Precisely. I read to the bottom of the thread and concluded that the words 'intelligence' and 'common sense' are being discussed without shared understanding.

I had the intelligence to spot that but not the common sense to not mention it.

Or did I?

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By *2spikeMan
over a year ago

Southsea

I have know some very intelligent people with no common sense and the other way too. Different people different things. Makes the world turn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of the greatest philosophers I met were scaffolders, I think being up high gives you more perspective on life, as such some ground workers were often very stuck in their ways.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

I would add the ability to absorb and acquire knowledge too. "

I would offer that intelligence is NOT how one behaves when you KNOW what to do but how one behaves when they DON'T KNOW what to do. i.e. awakening in totally unfamiliar surroundings or situations, meeting totally unseen dilemmas...

How you APPLY previously acquired knowledge to unfamiliar situations is a great indicator of intelligence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

I would add the ability to absorb and acquire knowledge too.

How you APPLY previously acquired knowledge to unfamiliar situations is a great indicator of intelligence. "

Yes, as seen in problem solving which is often a test of both abstract and practical thinking.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Define common sense and intelligence please.

I thought intelligence was the utilisation of knowledge gained, be it practical or academic knowledge.

Right? The smartest person I've ever met is not educated in the slightest.

Exactly, to me common sense is another word for intellect. I don't personally put value over one kind intelligence over the other.

Yes. Common sense is intelligence, exactly what I believe too.

Although I'm sure there are some who think those tribes I mentioned are all stupid because they don't have books. Utter nonsense."

I'm not sure I'd agree with 'common sense' and 'intelligence' being one and the same. Common sense dictionary synonyms are :- good sense, sound judgment, level-headedness, practicality. I'd argue that these can be learned , mimicked, passed on via osmosis - socialisation - nurture.

Intelligence enables thinkers to move beyond the 'common sense' the received wisdoms, dogma, laws etc......

People are individuals and possess both in varying degrees - there is no natural law that says if you have had an education or were born with a greater degree of intelligence that you have to lack common - sense proportionately.

Those with intelligence would question the 'tropes' they read , rather than vomit them out like truisms.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No: look at the number of pregnancies/STI's that occur at Universities. Just being intelligent isn't enough, although both can happily coexist."

This is true. Intelligent people can smell STI's from twelve feet away .... anyone with common sense knows that.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple
over a year ago

Chester

Sense ain't Common unfortunately

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

"Sense ain't Common unfortunately

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

I know a guy who has proven that he van work out in seconds what a supercomputer takes a few hours to work out.

Can't tie his own shoelaces, can't get himself dressed, has no concept of what money is and has zero social skills.

Also not autistic nor does he have any other diagnosed conditions.

He is simply singularly focused on one extremely complex thing at a time and is happy with his lot in life.

He's in his early 40s but has no idea when his birthday is either....incredible guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No: look at the number of pregnancies/STI's that occur at Universities. Just being intelligent isn't enough, although both can happily coexist.

This is true. Intelligent people can smell STI's from twelve feet away .... anyone with common sense knows that."

Common scents, surely.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

I'm much happier being blessed with common sense because it has carried me through life and helped me deal with difficult situations especially work related ones.

At the same time I don't think they are mutually exclusive because I still think of myself as intelligent despite never going to university or college.

I do know numerous people who are intellectual snobs but are incapable of solving the simplest of practical problems.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Intellectual prat

Clever person…. No common sense

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

I used to hang out with a guy who'd easily fall in to 'Genius' level intelligence (scientist, was doing some advanced computer system research NASA were interested in)...try sending him to the shop, cook (or even warm something up) or asking him to navigate somewhere (this was pre satnav days)- fookin useless!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, common sense tends to come and go with me

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Nope, common sense tends to come and go with me

Good point. Sometimes we exercise it and sometimes it goes out of the window.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think only the less intelligent know intelligent people with no common sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Heck no.

My fiancé is beyond intelligent (Mensa member, 99th percentile) and yet his common sense is.... wow!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I know a Mensa member (who is quick to remind you

) but doesn't have a clue where any countries are; no idea about the common/basic recent history of major countries (like China) and a bunch of other stuff that I'd have thought was just common knowledge. Also lacks sense. And tact. And a filter. *Sigh*

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"I know a Mensa member (who is quick to remind you

Hope they doesn’t live in a hard water area, with no filter they’ll have trouble with their kettle rocking up

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I know a Mensa member (who is quick to remind you

Hope they doesn’t live in a hard water area, with no filter they’ll have trouble with their kettle rocking up

They happen to be a geological type person, so I think the lack of filter is fine. It's in their area of actual expertise

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By *rying2niteMan
over a year ago

Egremont

As i say, "intelligence is having the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit.....common sense is knowing NOT to use one in a fruit salad"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of the greatest philosophers I’ve met were philosophers, probably why they got the job, fair play to them. But could they lay a patio or grout a bathroom, who knows, I didn’t ask them.

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By *ickyquimCouple
over a year ago

north west

Nopety no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have the intelligence to contribute to this thread, nor the common sense not to, so...

I say, yes. er, wait... no.

I don't know.

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

My dad is very intelligent, incredibly intelligent. But common sense? There’s none.

His grandson seems to be heading the same way too

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By *harlotteBigBoobsWoman
over a year ago

Hull

Not at all, my sister as degrees and a levels on abundance and gifted with technology often sorts my phone and laptop out but common sense my god..she's had 2 boxer dogs brother and sister. The sister was in season and one day came to my house I asked her what she'd done with the dogs and she separated them , she said I don't have to do that it's his sister he's not going to and shag her ??? OH MY GOD..2 WEEKS later ..pregnant..

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

Once worked with a post grad in data analytics. Super smart. However, we got him on the shop floor and he couldn't work out which end of a socket to put on a bolt head. (One is hexagonal, the other square).

Its pretty much the first toy everyone gets.. the plastic shape matching one.

We had to show him after his 5th attempt.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I don't have the intelligence to contribute to this thread, nor the common sense not to, so...

I say, yes. er, wait... no.

I don't know."

Admitting it is a start

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I work with doctors. Nope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nicky is one of the most intelligent I know. She has also ironed her own leg... (To test if it was hot. I was!). M

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By *igjonny090Man
over a year ago

blackpool and Manchester

Not at all I think the more intelligent a person is the lower the common sense

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Absolutely not

Some of the dumbest people I know are university educated

Sadly our education is built on the ability to pass tests and meet deadlines.

I’m fairly uneducated in an academic sense, but when I speak to some of my friends that went to “top 5 universities” it’s embarrassing seeing them try grasp certain points or discuss topics

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By *ing_of_the_swingers400Man
over a year ago

edinbugh

I know it’s not the case!! (Not me someone else

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