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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

I agree that hydrogen power is the future..

And I believe we are less than 10 years away from a useable engine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nitromethane top fule dragsters have been running it for years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

once all electrix then i can see the price of electric going thro the roof

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I agree that hydrogen power is the future..

And I believe we are less than 10 years away from a useable engine "

there is already engines that run on it, many petrol engins with a little work will, its the cost of turning it into fuel from air, it takes alot of energy, so a bit of a non starter, but then goverments arent known to make good choices

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"once all electrix then i can see the price of electric going thro the roof "

plus how do you charge if you live in a block of flats, or in a terraced house, que lots of claims for tripping over cables everywhere

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I think we should look at sail power, or go with a flintstones type propulsion system.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree that hydrogen power is the future..

And I believe we are less than 10 years away from a useable engine "

There are "engines" as I understand them, but they're basically hydrogen fuel cells that generate electricity from the hydrogen that then power electric motors. I'm guessing the option of combusting the hydrogen is still on the cards?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Petrol /electric cars?

Electric driven wheels, Electric supplied by a petrol engine from a lawnmower.. Lot less petrol needed

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Petrol /electric cars?

Electric driven wheels, Electric supplied by a petrol engine from a lawnmower.. Lot less petrol needed

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been tried, and works, but still petrol

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

Electric, inductive loop and inductive charging/supply from the road surface.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Electric, inductive loop and inductive charging/supply from the road surface."

good idea but whats going to make the leccy?

none of the green ideas really work in the real world, so we are back to fossil fuels for power

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"Electric, inductive loop and inductive charging/supply from the road surface.

good idea but whats going to make the leccy?

none of the green ideas really work in the real world, so we are back to fossil fuels for power"

Nuclear is the only real clean way breeder reactors though.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Leg power and free wheeling like in The Flintstones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Petrol /electric cars?

Electric driven wheels, Electric supplied by a petrol engine from a lawnmower.. Lot less petrol needed

been tried, and works, but still petrol"

Run the engen on isopropyl alcohol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJKZ_41wbcM&list=PLjT3B9r2z3fXGHNtjA6jSysl6netxlwrL&index=2

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Electric, inductive loop and inductive charging/supply from the road surface.

good idea but whats going to make the leccy?

none of the green ideas really work in the real world, so we are back to fossil fuels for power

Nuclear is the only real clean way breeder reactors though."

probably the most realistic answer yet, but will the public ever go for it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as they hover, I don’t care

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As long as they hover, I don’t care"

werent we promest that 30 years ago, wish they would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Petrol /electric cars?

Electric driven wheels, Electric supplied by a petrol engine from a lawnmower.. Lot less petrol needed

been tried, and works, but still petrol

Run the engen on isopropyl alcohol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJKZ_41wbcM&list=PLjT3B9r2z3fXGHNtjA6jSysl6netxlwrL&index=2

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I agree that hydrogen power is the future..

And I believe we are less than 10 years away from a useable engine

There are "engines" as I understand them, but they're basically hydrogen fuel cells that generate electricity from the hydrogen that then power electric motors. I'm guessing the option of combusting the hydrogen is still on the cards? "

I should've explained that the hydrogen is converted to energy on the vehicle. I.e. self-charging.

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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago

Stoke area


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like "

Gosh there are some outdated comments there.

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road.

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By *apascouseMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

Fossil fuels are running out, EV is actually worse on the planet due to the mining of lithium for the batteries, if they can sort the infrastructure out its all about hydrogen, plus that opens up so many scientific options for humanity

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By *apascouseMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Electric, inductive loop and inductive charging/supply from the road surface.

good idea but whats going to make the leccy?

none of the green ideas really work in the real world, so we are back to fossil fuels for power

Nuclear is the only real clean way breeder reactors though."

Maybe once we discover fusion, then its totally clean and will create more power than 10 current nuclear stations

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

Gosh there are some outdated comments there.

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road."

wow so many wrong things in this, where i live there are no lamp posts, and who would pay for the upgraid anyway, how do you think batteries are made, and out of what, they arent made of fairydust, just google lythium mining, and then google lytium recycling to see my point, while electric works for some, it doesnt for many, hence my question

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

Horses for rich people, oxen for haulage, shanks pony for us plebs.

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By *ingle ex cuckMan
over a year ago

chester


"Horses for rich people, oxen for haulage, shanks pony for us plebs."

Noooo the poverty gap will be reduced by the time we use individual air travel

Yes you make a good point but please have faith

This is a long learning curve

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

The infrastructure is not nearly in place and the plans to meet the capability to make the un-achievable targets set by the powers that be happen. Hopefully batteries that are half the weight/size and a huge increase in performance then it’s going to be a big u-turns all the way

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"Horses for rich people, oxen for haulage, shanks pony for us plebs."

the electric automated turd sweeping un unionised robots will just get shat on as usual.

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"Horses for rich people, oxen for haulage, shanks pony for us plebs.

the electric automated turd sweeping un unionised robots will just get shat on as usual. "
excellent, I couldn’t agree more Anthony wedgewood benn couldn’t have put it better

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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago

Stoke area


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

Gosh there are some outdated comments there.

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road.

wow so many wrong things in this, where i live there are no lamp posts, and who would pay for the upgraid anyway, how do you think batteries are made, and out of what, they arent made of fairydust, just google lythium mining, and then google lytium recycling to see my point, while electric works for some, it doesnt for many, hence my question"

Nobody mentionned lamp posts ???? There are charging posts specifically being put in place . New Housing stock being built are now having the addition of having home EV chargers and as i stared many venues, supermarket and hotel chains now have charging points.

I'm knowledgable regarding lithium mining and also the ability to obtain it from salt flats in South America without the need for any mining.

It is not a perfect system, but I think the facts you have been reading are out of date. There are huge investments going on in Blyth Northumberland regarding obtaining Lithium, it isn't child labour in some third world country.

It is good to discuss topics, but sad when you can't deal with someone with a different opinion without stating condescending comments such as "fairy dust".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I respect the option of everyone on this thread but it’s a subject I’be become very close to over the last 3 years.

As we write the up-front ticket cost is higher than that of ‘ICE’ cars, however total cost of ownership is considerably lower. Paying maximum prices at an electric vehicle charging point the are are our 14/18p per mile.

The input visits are coming down rapidly and the $100 per KWh price required to be cheaper at upfront ticket price required to beat ICE cars is about to be breached in the next year.

Maintenance on electric is a lot lower than ICE and the environmental cost over IVE I.e. the difference in the source material of the power train is in the mining of the materials. Where it comes to BEVs the material at controversy the anti-electric lobbyists say is cobalt, mined in poor conditions in the Congo. What those lobbyists (paid for by GM, Ford and Stalantis et al) is that cobalt is also used in refining oil, making the pint mute.

Undeterred battery research also brings us to the point where cobalt is about to be eliminated or near-zero content in 12-18 months. Wishing 5 years I suspect the majority of new BEV car sales will be greater than ICE car sales and by then costs of electricity will fall rather than increase.

Electricity is going through a revolution which people would have to see to believe but my belief is that there will be an electricity abundance in the next 10 years and we will generate most of our own power if the advances in solar panels come to fruition.

The difficulty with hydrogen is its storage. It requires large amounts of it stored and the engine is rather tooo big to make it practical in cars, not to mention transporting it around to what would be ‘hydrogen stations’ won’t be safe or practical.

The infrastructure for electric vehicles is being installed and BEVs in 5 years will be better, faster, cheaper to fuel, cheaper ticket price, cheaper overall cost, cheaper to maintain and will last longer (WAY longer) than their ICE equivalent.

The only advice o could give anyone now is please please please don’t take out a loan against an ICE car in the next few years, the price of the car is going to plummet when they become way less valuable than BEVs.

Sorry to drone on. There’s more, but you all have lives and would get bored.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

Gosh there are some outdated comments there.

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road.

wow so many wrong things in this, where i live there are no lamp posts, and who would pay for the upgraid anyway, how do you think batteries are made, and out of what, they arent made of fairydust, just google lythium mining, and then google lytium recycling to see my point, while electric works for some, it doesnt for many, hence my question

Nobody mentionned lamp posts ???? There are charging posts specifically being put in place . New Housing stock being built are now having the addition of having home EV chargers and as i stared many venues, supermarket and hotel chains now have charging points.

I'm knowledgable regarding lithium mining and also the ability to obtain it from salt flats in South America without the need for any mining.

It is not a perfect system, but I think the facts you have been reading are out of date. There are huge investments going on in Blyth Northumberland regarding obtaining Lithium, it isn't child labour in some third world country.

It is good to discuss topics, but sad when you can't deal with someone with a different opinion without stating condescending comments such as "fairy dust". "

All true.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

im not at all out of date as i work in a close non compeating sector, so know my facts more than most, anyway my point remains the same, what will be the next big thing, as electric is a red herring as those in the know now realize, i agree at the moment there isnt anything better in eco terms, but over the life of a ev there are more resorced used than a modern petrol, that is and has never been up for debate, if you dont believe me look up the facts, its not sustainable, but what will be?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

also if we all went electric the national grid couldnt cope, we already have to import a good part of our electricity, and thats just for current use, sure i want to be green same as everyone else, but this isnt the answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember a few years back going to the bmw academy for electric vehicle training they told us there is technology in place that batteries could last longer than a persons life expectancy but they won’t put them into circulation as no one will ever purchase a car or a mobile phone or any battery powered device again

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I remember a few years back going to the bmw academy for electric vehicle training they told us there is technology in place that batteries could last longer than a persons life expectancy but they won’t put them into circulation as no one will ever purchase a car or a mobile phone or any battery powered device again "

thats fine, but you still have to charge it from somewhere

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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago

Reading

Yes I agree . People think that electricity is easy to produce from ie. wind solar etc. Yet when checking how much power these systems produce . It is not enough . Wind for example . Needs wind. If none no power. Solar the same . Yes produces if cloudy . But not enough . Requires full sunlight. Tech is getting better . We are an island. At present import a lot of electricity. So if living in flats etc . No charging points. The other thing is. Cost of electricity will go up to pay for investment . So drivers cost will escalate to pay extra costs. Same as petrol , diesel . No easy answer ?

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

I also believe hydrogen-powered cars will be the future, although with greater advanced in fuel-cell storage and technology, electric is still viable. There is a lot of roof on a car that could be some super-conducting graphene-like material that could solar-feed a storage battery.

But the biggest thing I think will be the end of personal car ownership.

We don't own planes do we ? We rent them for a while when we need to.

We could do same for cars.

If I want to go somewhere, I could just place a booking for "Rent-a-car" on my phone, and any 1 of 1000+ cars in the "pool" in my area turns up.

I get in. It drives me where I want t go (fully automated). I get out. Off the car goes to the next customer. Or I place a "hold" on the car, perhaps to load up my shopping in an hours time. Come out the shop and there it is, all ready to go. Get home, unload, then off it goes to the next customer.

Instead of making 30+ million cars, for every Tom, Dick and Jane, and then having service them, find somewhere to park them, insure them, blah blah blah, you just App-A-Car or something like that.

Sure, we have Taxis, and buses...but remember...these are autonomous and more prolific. Point to Point (unlike buses).

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough / Kettering

It won't really affect me in 30 years time but I just hope that the current batch of electric car designers are well and truly retired as most of the electric cars on the road are pig ugly. Im talking Tesla (all of them), Toyota Prius and the Jaguar that looks like it was designed by a blind person

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By *ipShakerMan
over a year ago

Gateshead


"once all electrix then i can see the price of electric going thro the roof "

You're not wrong there, one of the reasons they are pushing smart meters. They will be able to see your charging a car, then you'll be charged a higher VAT level. They gotta make the tax back somehow.

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By *iss.ddWoman
over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

Electric cars just won't succeed while there's such a poor infrastructure in place for charging away from the home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So far the future cars of today are shit. After the paid-for enthusiasm of the early reviewers the reality has started to bite. The most desperate attempt to make electric cars work are those models where the petrol engine is not connected to the wheels but used to spin a generator that charges batteries used to power the electric motor. I am eagerly waiting for a better solution.

Rant over, I'm getting on a train to meet my submissive friend.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

There is also the changing work/commute situation to consider as well.

A lot of folks I know have moved to hybrid home/office situation, where they do 3 days at home, 2 in the office. A couple of them are doing 4 at home/1 in the office. A few very lucky ones are permanently home based now.

This in itself will affect car production and demand.

So it may be there is no appetite for investing a lot of money in new car technical research in to alternative means of fuel, if there are not going to be the huge swathe of customers buying them.

I personally wouldn't invest in car companies now the world has changed.

If a company designed basically an autonomous box on wheels to turn up when called by an App to take you from A to B, that would be more interesting. Who needs fancy, when you just want to go from A-B.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As long as they hover, I don’t care"

The UK's first car park for flying cars has just been founded on the outskirts of Coventry

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

I'm not familiar with with renewables but have interest and unsure whether (green) hydrogen is feasible as a future energy/alternative fuel or not.

The 20% blend to homes means it's already viable and in use, the only negative seems production/transport choice/uptake.

When talking about transporting hydrogen for use in vehicles - issues seem overblown, as from what I heard it was to be funnelled through water pipes similar to how it is through the gas supply? Which seems a logical solution, rather than needing to physically ship it around the country. Maybe a mixture of the two (home/transport) would ultimately prevail if hydro transport were ever to be seen on the roads.

Fusion seems interesting, maybe that will replace nuclear if there were any steps in long term generation.

The amount of electricity via wind, I can't see that being relegated any time soon. Batteries have already proven their longevity, only their weight and application are a negative (they become carbon neutral after 13000 miles I believe?), though weight means there should be diversity of fuel both source and use.

The idea of ethanol for aviation seems an oil friendly idea, I would much rather see hydrogen used in this setting and for greater generation of future industry.

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By *ongueandgroove555Couple
over a year ago

Waterford

To be sustainable the future will need to be no cars and all public transport. 8bn people on the planet is unsustainable from a car perspective. As it is rural living is waining in favour of cities. This makes mass public transport more realistic.

In the interim, electric is the way forward until we reach a point where electricity supply won't meet demand. Hydrogen, great technology but to mass produce is is gonna be too energy intensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Electric, inductive loop and inductive charging/supply from the road surface.

good idea but whats going to make the leccy?

none of the green ideas really work in the real world, so we are back to fossil fuels for power

Nuclear is the only real clean way breeder reactors though.

Maybe once we discover fusion, then its totally clean and will create more power than 10 current nuclear stations "

Well it’s been found to be done before considering we’ve advanced so much it makes one wonder.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/natures-nuclear-reactors-the-2-billion-year-old-natural-fission-reactors-in-gabon-western-africa/

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"To be sustainable the future will need to be no cars and all public transport. 8bn people on the planet is unsustainable from a car perspective. As it is rural living is waining in favour of cities. This makes mass public transport more realistic.

In the interim, electric is the way forward until we reach a point where electricity supply won't meet demand. Hydrogen, great technology but to mass produce is is gonna be too energy intensive. "

How do you see energy intensive business working - construction, heavy industry, shipping, steel, airlines, farming or data centres? I can't see anything but hydrogen being able to make the necessary power to be able to sustain those types of industries.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

I’m still trying to perfect my flux capacitor. Can someone lend me a billion?

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By *ongueandgroove555Couple
over a year ago

Waterford


"To be sustainable the future will need to be no cars and all public transport. 8bn people on the planet is unsustainable from a car perspective. As it is rural living is waining in favour of cities. This makes mass public transport more realistic.

In the interim, electric is the way forward until we reach a point where electricity supply won't meet demand. Hydrogen, great technology but to mass produce is is gonna be too energy intensive.

How do you see energy intensive business working - construction, heavy industry, shipping, steel, airlines, farming or data centres? I can't see anything but hydrogen being able to make the necessary power to be able to sustain those types of industries. "

The thread was about cars but the fact remains that the production of hydrogen is energy intensive by current methods. Data centres are electricity consuming mammoths and we are facing a massive problem with the growing demand for them and the grid unable to keep up. Farming is interesting as the have a potential to produce their own gas from animal waste if the incentives were there for them.

The simple answer is we are heading for an energy and environmental crisis very soon and unless we get our act together it's not going to be a great future.

When covid arrived the world worked together to produce a vaccine led by governments, maybe we need the same focus on future energy.

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By *alldarksurreyMan
over a year ago

surrey

Whatever it is it should be owned and controlled by governments and not private companies who are just out to make a quick buck,the same goes with public transport.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

Gosh there are some outdated comments there.

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road."

As a car salesman, who drives an electric car, I have to 100% agree with this

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over a year ago


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

Gosh there are some outdated comments there.

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road.

As a car salesman, who drives an electric car, I have to 100% agree with this "

We have got aging nuclear power stations, and seen a report we burn 60 odd% gas etc, so... 60 odd % of cars electric cars are ultimately gas/coal powered. More green /nuclear power stations needed.

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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago

Stoke area


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road.

As a car salesman, who drives an electric car, I have to 100% agree with this "

Lots of owners of Electric Cars are driving about smiling, glad that they made the decision to lease or purchase an EV right now

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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago

Derbyshire village

Pedals. Transportation plus gym. Sorted.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Rather than guess , look at share prices in this space , Monet follows the smart guys.

I like that electric is moving into pay per mile no contract , like enterprise car club, I don’t need to own an electric car just use them like driverless Uber

Watch out for super capacitor breakthroughs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bit off topic but I'm looking forward to hyperloop trains at 760mph

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

Gosh there are some outdated comments there.

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road.

As a car salesman, who drives an electric car, I have to 100% agree with this

We have got aging nuclear power stations, and seen a report we burn 60 odd% gas etc, so... 60 odd % of cars electric cars are ultimately gas/coal powered. More green /nuclear power stations needed. "

Green nuclear power is an oxymoron.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Green nuclear power is horseshit.

When you account for the energy required to mine the uranium & disposal of waste it's equivalent to other energy sources.

So why have the hassle?

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"whats everyones view on the future fuels for cars, fossil fuels are non pc so are out, electric hasnt worked if you take into the mix the cost of the things without subsadies, the huge recicling problem, the huge enviromental effect the building and recicling of them, and lets not forget the electricity has to be made by something, plus if you want to do a long trip they arent ideal, my guess is hydrogen, its all around us anyway, but needs alot of energy to make into fuel, so what are peoples guess, i think cow shit would be a good idea, lots of methane, plentiful supply, whats not to like

Gosh there are some outdated comments there.

Electricity can be made with renewable energy sources. The building of some use far more recycled products than traditionally made ICE cars and can also be recycled when they are taken off the road.

Charging if you live in a terraced street or a flat can be provided by posts kerbside or when people go to work or the shops etc.

Range. Modern Electric Vehicles can easily cover 200 miles between charges and the average driver would be advised to have a break if driving a long distance, so 40 minutes charging while they have a breather, coffee or wee, will recharge the battery to virtually full range again.

So in my opinion, Electric Vehicles will become more popular and the charging network is growing considerably to cater for the increasing numbers on the road.

As a car salesman, who drives an electric car, I have to 100% agree with this

We have got aging nuclear power stations, and seen a report we burn 60 odd% gas etc, so... 60 odd % of cars electric cars are ultimately gas/coal powered. More green /nuclear power stations needed.

Green nuclear power is an oxymoron."

Definitely maybe

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

Future cars.

A combination of electric, hydrogen and in some cases a hybrid of both.

But I think we will eventually move to a different type of car ownership model.

By this, I mean you won't have your car parked on the the drive, or the street outside.

You will use an App on your phone and summon a car, most likely an autonomous vehicle, to take you from from A-B.

Pricing will be via the mile, and also size of the vehicle needed.

The App draws from a pool of vehicles in the local area.

Essentially, private ownership will become a thing of the past, limited to collectors, or the very wealthy.

The rest of us, who just want to go from A-B, will happily use this service, which will be considerably cheaper than taxis by quite some magnitude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Green nuclear power is horseshit.

When you account for the energy required to mine the uranium & disposal of waste it's equivalent to other energy sources.

So why have the hassle?

"

Exactly, i fully agree! I don't understand why people suggest nuclear power

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