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"Have you just heard the latest statistics op?" I thought that was essex_tom's job ![]() | |||
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"Have you just heard the latest statistics op? I thought that was essex_tom's job ![]() He’s taken the day off phew ![]() | |||
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"The stats are beyond grim on this topic. I really wish it were as simple as "What can we do", but this question shouldn't be aimed at the ladies. It's an issue for the blokes to tackle, "Men, what can we do to stop other men from harming women". ![]() The police are currently in the firing line but do they really have the resources to tackle the issue. I think it‘s about educating children of both sexes because clearly something is going wrong somewhere ![]() | |||
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"The stats are beyond grim on this topic. I really wish it were as simple as "What can we do", but this question shouldn't be aimed at the ladies. It's an issue for the blokes to tackle, "Men, what can we do to stop other men from harming women". ![]() ![]() Speaking as someone who used to work for the Police in a civil capacity. No, they don't. I agree, it should be about educating children of both sexes, but the emphasis is on the blokes in this case, that lady didn't go out to get murdered, nor did those sisters on the hill. I feel strongly about this because, in this case, it's absolutely right the men sort this issue out. No one should go out and feel in fear of their lives. ![]() | |||
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"The stats are beyond grim on this topic. I really wish it were as simple as "What can we do", but this question shouldn't be aimed at the ladies. It's an issue for the blokes to tackle, "Men, what can we do to stop other men from harming women". ![]() ![]() ![]() I think it’s very difficult to change the behaviour of adults, relearning acceptable behaviour will take as many years as it took to learn the wrong behaviour. Even then there are no guarantees. I’m not saying we do nothing, I just don’t know what the answer is ![]() | |||
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"The stats are beyond grim on this topic. I really wish it were as simple as "What can we do", but this question shouldn't be aimed at the ladies. It's an issue for the blokes to tackle, "Men, what can we do to stop other men from harming women". ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I wish we all had a magic wand that would do all that & fix the issue. Though I agree, it would take years & years of re-education and so forth. And it'd need to be comprehensive education, show the trauma, the years of recovery, the suicides because of it. It's the only way guys will learn, that their actions have dire consequences. Oh, and tell them to stop blaming the victims. ![]() | |||
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"A busy road during the day, yes I feel safe enough. But anywhere else I always have a small niggle in my mind that something could happen and I'm always a aware of my surroundings. If you want to make women feel safer, start with men as they are the problem. It's the men you need to watch, not the women. " I've witnessed some prolonged, generally unprovoked, violent attacks by women on other men and women unfortunatly..... | |||
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"Its really not just a Female thing. Think its a bit dishonest to frame as that tbh There are places in Bedford even in male mode I would not go to after dark or even during the day. And im a 6ft2 male, because of that i have been told by gang members that makes me even more of a target" The reasons for male on male violence is very different than male on female violence. But you are right in the sense that male on male violence is a big problem regardless of the reasons | |||
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"A busy road during the day, yes I feel safe enough. But anywhere else I always have a small niggle in my mind that something could happen and I'm always a aware of my surroundings. If you want to make women feel safer, start with men as they are the problem. It's the men you need to watch, not the women. I've witnessed some prolonged, generally unprovoked, violent attacks by women on other men and women unfortunatly..... " Maybe I should rephrase. Men are the much bigger problem. Yes, women can be violent too and I'd never ever try to say that's OK or justify it. But I'm much more worried about my safety because of men and not women and most people I know would agree. | |||
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"The stats are beyond grim on this topic. I really wish it were as simple as "What can we do", but this question shouldn't be aimed at the ladies. It's an issue for the blokes to tackle, "Men, what can we do to stop other men from harming women". ![]() Agree with this, but it takes understanding the issue to know the potential solutions and there is also something about speaking directly with those adversely affected and actively listening to their lived experiences. | |||
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"My ex had a cutting tongue, that always seemed to do the trick ![]() ![]() Yes ![]() | |||
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"A busy road during the day, yes I feel safe enough. But anywhere else I always have a small niggle in my mind that something could happen and I'm always a aware of my surroundings. If you want to make women feel safer, start with men as they are the problem. It's the men you need to watch, not the women. I've witnessed some prolonged, generally unprovoked, violent attacks by women on other men and women unfortunatly..... Maybe I should rephrase. Men are the much bigger problem. Yes, women can be violent too and I'd never ever try to say that's OK or justify it. But I'm much more worried about my safety because of men and not women and most people I know would agree. " Well bend over then young Lady, it's spanky bum time for being correct ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"No there's nothing men can do and they shouldn't have to carry that burden. We are all responsible for keeping ourselves safe, being smart when outside and not putting ourselves in a vulnerable position." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"A busy road during the day, yes I feel safe enough. But anywhere else I always have a small niggle in my mind that something could happen and I'm always a aware of my surroundings. If you want to make women feel safer, start with men as they are the problem. It's the men you need to watch, not the women. I've witnessed some prolonged, generally unprovoked, violent attacks by women on other men and women unfortunatly..... " Having been on receiving end it was reported lets just say police had zero interest and therein lies a problem in itself. No matter who causes the problem male or female it needs sorting out. | |||
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"No there's nothing men can do and they shouldn't have to carry that burden. " Exactly this, men as a collective cannot possibly be held responsible for the actions of a small minority of individuals. Bad people are bad people, regardless of gender. | |||
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"A busy road during the day, yes I feel safe enough. But anywhere else I always have a small niggle in my mind that something could happen and I'm always a aware of my surroundings. If you want to make women feel safer, start with men as they are the problem. It's the men you need to watch, not the women. I've witnessed some prolonged, generally unprovoked, violent attacks by women on other men and women unfortunatly..... Maybe I should rephrase. Men are the much bigger problem. Yes, women can be violent too and I'd never ever try to say that's OK or justify it. But I'm much more worried about my safety because of men and not women and most people I know would agree. " Men are not a much bigger problem. The biggest problem is definitely caused by some men but that doesn't make men the problem. Your logic is no different to saying Muslims are responsible for dealing with Islamist extremism because they are all Muslims. I agree that us men should do all we can to help women feel safe - and if there is any specific advice then I'd gladly follow it. However, if I take care to cross a street, change my pace, sing Yankee doodle dandy or whatever as I walk to make a lone woman feel safer, while in that particular instance it may make a woman feel safer it won't in any way change the predatory behavoir of a certain subset of men. That requires all of society. I am no more responsible for the behaviour of a murder/rapist than the guy who cuts my hair in the Turkish barbers is responsible for the Manchester arena bombings. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Mr | |||
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"especially as one person put it above 'the ladies' ....." What term would you prefer and have you asked the opinion of the other 4 billion females on the planet to check they're happy with it? Mr | |||
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"A busy road during the day, yes I feel safe enough. But anywhere else I always have a small niggle in my mind that something could happen and I'm always a aware of my surroundings. If you want to make women feel safer, start with men as they are the problem. It's the men you need to watch, not the women. I've witnessed some prolonged, generally unprovoked, violent attacks by women on other men and women unfortunatly..... Maybe I should rephrase. Men are the much bigger problem. Yes, women can be violent too and I'd never ever try to say that's OK or justify it. But I'm much more worried about my safety because of men and not women and most people I know would agree. Men are not a much bigger problem. The biggest problem is definitely caused by some men but that doesn't make men the problem. Your logic is no different to saying Muslims are responsible for dealing with Islamist extremism because they are all Muslims. I agree that us men should do all we can to help women feel safe - and if there is any specific advice then I'd gladly follow it. However, if I take care to cross a street, change my pace, sing Yankee doodle dandy or whatever as I walk to make a lone woman feel safer, while in that particular instance it may make a woman feel safer it won't in any way change the predatory behavoir of a certain subset of men. That requires all of society. I am no more responsible for the behaviour of a murder/rapist than the guy who cuts my hair in the Turkish barbers is responsible for the Manchester arena bombings. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Mr" #NotAllMen ![]() | |||
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"A busy road during the day, yes I feel safe enough. But anywhere else I always have a small niggle in my mind that something could happen and I'm always a aware of my surroundings. If you want to make women feel safer, start with men as they are the problem. It's the men you need to watch, not the women. I've witnessed some prolonged, generally unprovoked, violent attacks by women on other men and women unfortunatly..... Maybe I should rephrase. Men are the much bigger problem. Yes, women can be violent too and I'd never ever try to say that's OK or justify it. But I'm much more worried about my safety because of men and not women and most people I know would agree. Men are not a much bigger problem. The biggest problem is definitely caused by some men but that doesn't make men the problem. Your logic is no different to saying Muslims are responsible for dealing with Islamist extremism because they are all Muslims. I agree that us men should do all we can to help women feel safe - and if there is any specific advice then I'd gladly follow it. However, if I take care to cross a street, change my pace, sing Yankee doodle dandy or whatever as I walk to make a lone woman feel safer, while in that particular instance it may make a woman feel safer it won't in any way change the predatory behavoir of a certain subset of men. That requires all of society. I am no more responsible for the behaviour of a murder/rapist than the guy who cuts my hair in the Turkish barbers is responsible for the Manchester arena bombings. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Mr" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Ladies do you fell safe on our streets? What can us chaps do more or less of to improve your sense of security?" Maybe wear some pants | |||
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