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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. " There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.." Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. " That's been my experience. Though last time I ordered it online and just had to go pick it up, which I found more convenient. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. " Had similar when I was working for a bank. A personal loan applied for for a private abortion. They met all the criteria but the loans officer declined it because of their religion. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. That's been my experience. Though last time I ordered it online and just had to go pick it up, which I found more convenient. " There are definitely lots of options I do however think it's too expensive. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. That's been my experience. Though last time I ordered it online and just had to go pick it up, which I found more convenient. There are definitely lots of options I do however think it's too expensive. " I agree it is too expensive. Though if my memory serves me right you can get some that are cheaper that can be posted to your home. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. That's been my experience. Though last time I ordered it online and just had to go pick it up, which I found more convenient. There are definitely lots of options I do however think it's too expensive. I agree it is too expensive. Though if my memory serves me right you can get some that are cheaper that can be posted to your home. " My only worry is that is whether it comes in discrete packaging because I'm just thinking in some situations it might not be safe for a woman to receive that to their home. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. Had similar when I was working for a bank. A personal loan applied for for a private abortion. They met all the criteria but the loans officer declined it because of their religion. " 
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. Had similar when I was working for a bank. A personal loan applied for for a private abortion. They met all the criteria but the loans officer declined it because of their religion. " I think I would of lied on the application form and said it was for a car or home improvements. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. Had similar when I was working for a bank. A personal loan applied for for a private abortion. They met all the criteria but the loans officer declined it because of their religion.
I thought abortions are free unless you choose to go private. "It was a private one. Can’t remember the reasons for private etc. I just remember the situation. Was back in the 90s x | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. Had similar when I was working for a bank. A personal loan applied for for a private abortion. They met all the criteria but the loans officer declined it because of their religion. I think I would of lied on the application form and said it was for a car or home improvements." Yeah it got overruled in the end but it caused a commotion. That’s why I remember. | |||
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"Yes however they can only do this if they offer adequate alternative care or explain where and how they can this. I Don't think it's right but it's not a easy as the OP suggests. There was an article on the BBC today, saying this often wasn't the case unfortunately.. Yes I read it. This is however mostly not the case. You will always get people that go against the rules but most pharmacists do despense it. Had similar when I was working for a bank. A personal loan applied for for a private abortion. They met all the criteria but the loans officer declined it because of their religion.
I thought abortions are free unless you choose to go private.
It was a private one. Can’t remember the reasons for private etc. I just remember the situation. Was back in the 90s x"It's also much quicker privately. | |||
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"The world is going mad what the fuck has it got to do with someone's religious views??" Well to them quite a lot I guess. | |||
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"The world is going mad what the fuck has it got to do with someone's religious views??" They should remain impartial and provide the service that they are there to do. | |||
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"The world is going mad what the fuck has it got to do with someone's religious views?? Well to them quite a lot I guess. " I’m not sure about this though. That’s just someone working in there. Surely they don’t get the final say? | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that?" Really? Surely that’s taking away choice?  | |||
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"The world is going mad what the fuck has it got to do with someone's religious views?? Well to them quite a lot I guess. I’m not sure about this though. That’s just someone working in there. Surely they don’t get the final say? " It would be the pharmacist that would have the final say and actually a pharmacist can refuse to prescribe any medication as long as they offer alternative provision. Pharmacies are covered in the same way any business is and can refuse service to somebody without giving a reason although it is rare that I do so. | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that?" So because we hold conflicting views they can enforce their views on to me. Hmmm, I'm not comfortable with that or having to justify my reasons for needing the morning after pill. Who the hell is a pharmacist to judge whether my reasons are good enough? Smh | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? So because we hold conflicting views they can enforce their views on to me. Hmmm, I'm not comfortable with that or having to justify my reasons for needing the morning after pill. Who the hell is a pharmacist to judge whether my reasons are good enough? Smh" I completely agree with you and their personal views should not impact on me however they are not breaking any rules by refusing to dispense medication for any reason. I think this to change. | |||
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 It took me a good half hour to convince him. He was on about side effects...  I kept saying to him in my defence the side effects of an unplanned crisis pregnancy were way more damaging & higher than taking the morning after pill. Be eventually gave it to me. Bare in mind it was the first & last time so far that I've had to take it. It was kinda obvs his refusal to give it to me were on religious grounds  | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? So because we hold conflicting views they can enforce their views on to me. Hmmm, I'm not comfortable with that or having to justify my reasons for needing the morning after pill. Who the hell is a pharmacist to judge whether my reasons are good enough? Smh I completely agree with you and their personal views should not impact on me however they are not breaking any rules by refusing to dispense medication for any reason. I think this to change. " I wouldn't want anybody to compromise their religious views on my behalf. If a pharmacist had religious objections to certain reasons for requiring the MAP maybe they should be required to make that clear so no woman has to face the indignity and possible trauma of someone else's judgement | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? So because we hold conflicting views they can enforce their views on to me. Hmmm, I'm not comfortable with that or having to justify my reasons for needing the morning after pill. Who the hell is a pharmacist to judge whether my reasons are good enough? Smh I completely agree with you and their personal views should not impact on me however they are not breaking any rules by refusing to dispense medication for any reason. I think this to change. I wouldn't want anybody to compromise their religious views on my behalf. If a pharmacist had religious objections to certain reasons for requiring the MAP maybe they should be required to make that clear so no woman has to face the indignity and possible trauma of someone else's judgement" See I'm not so sure because I think if you enter a profession where you know you're religious views may be compromised should you be there? | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? So because we hold conflicting views they can enforce their views on to me. Hmmm, I'm not comfortable with that or having to justify my reasons for needing the morning after pill. Who the hell is a pharmacist to judge whether my reasons are good enough? Smh I completely agree with you and their personal views should not impact on me however they are not breaking any rules by refusing to dispense medication for any reason. I think this to change. I wouldn't want anybody to compromise their religious views on my behalf. If a pharmacist had religious objections to certain reasons for requiring the MAP maybe they should be required to make that clear so no woman has to face the indignity and possible trauma of someone else's judgement See I'm not so sure because I think if you enter a profession where you know you're religious views may be compromised should you be there?" Tricky one isn't it. I was in a position once where my gp warned me not to divulge certain information at the hospital gynaecology department when I had a suspected ectopic pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage. I was taken aback by that. I suppose people feel It's their right to hold those views and judge other people by them. | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? So because we hold conflicting views they can enforce their views on to me. Hmmm, I'm not comfortable with that or having to justify my reasons for needing the morning after pill. Who the hell is a pharmacist to judge whether my reasons are good enough? Smh I completely agree with you and their personal views should not impact on me however they are not breaking any rules by refusing to dispense medication for any reason. I think this to change. I wouldn't want anybody to compromise their religious views on my behalf. If a pharmacist had religious objections to certain reasons for requiring the MAP maybe they should be required to make that clear so no woman has to face the indignity and possible trauma of someone else's judgement See I'm not so sure because I think if you enter a profession where you know you're religious views may be compromised should you be there? Tricky one isn't it. I was in a position once where my gp warned me not to divulge certain information at the hospital gynaecology department when I had a suspected ectopic pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage. I was taken aback by that. I suppose people feel It's their right to hold those views and judge other people by them." Seems to be the case. | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? So because we hold conflicting views they can enforce their views on to me. Hmmm, I'm not comfortable with that or having to justify my reasons for needing the morning after pill. Who the hell is a pharmacist to judge whether my reasons are good enough? Smh I completely agree with you and their personal views should not impact on me however they are not breaking any rules by refusing to dispense medication for any reason. I think this to change. I wouldn't want anybody to compromise their religious views on my behalf. If a pharmacist had religious objections to certain reasons for requiring the MAP maybe they should be required to make that clear so no woman has to face the indignity and possible trauma of someone else's judgement See I'm not so sure because I think if you enter a profession where you know you're religious views may be compromised should you be there? Tricky one isn't it. I was in a position once where my gp warned me not to divulge certain information at the hospital gynaecology department when I had a suspected ectopic pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage. I was taken aback by that. I suppose people feel It's their right to hold those views and judge other people by them. Seems to be the case. " I should add that the woman who did my internal scan was extremely kind and have me tough information in a very compassionate way. So was a nurse who took me into a wide room and explained stuff to me because she thought I was in denial | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? So because we hold conflicting views they can enforce their views on to me. Hmmm, I'm not comfortable with that or having to justify my reasons for needing the morning after pill. Who the hell is a pharmacist to judge whether my reasons are good enough? Smh I completely agree with you and their personal views should not impact on me however they are not breaking any rules by refusing to dispense medication for any reason. I think this to change. I wouldn't want anybody to compromise their religious views on my behalf. If a pharmacist had religious objections to certain reasons for requiring the MAP maybe they should be required to make that clear so no woman has to face the indignity and possible trauma of someone else's judgement See I'm not so sure because I think if you enter a profession where you know you're religious views may be compromised should you be there? Tricky one isn't it. I was in a position once where my gp warned me not to divulge certain information at the hospital gynaecology department when I had a suspected ectopic pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage. I was taken aback by that. I suppose people feel It's their right to hold those views and judge other people by them. Seems to be the case. I should add that the woman who did my internal scan was extremely kind and have me tough information in a very compassionate way. So was a nurse who took me into a wide room and explained stuff to me because she thought I was in denial" *gave me and *side room | |||
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"The world is going mad what the fuck has it got to do with someone's religious views?? Well to them quite a lot I guess. I’m not sure about this though. That’s just someone working in there. Surely they don’t get the final say? " You'd think they should be separating their private views from what their profession requires. Compassion and support for a patient in a crisis situation.. | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that?" At least we don't live in Texas... | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? At least we don't live in Texas... "That was my first thought. | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? At least we don't live in Texas... "Shouldn’t be a chemist in the first place in my opinion or someone who deals with medicine AND science. Which pretty much can go against religion anyway…
If you wanna be a professional, be a professional and take your religious views out of it. In my opinion, their body their choice, then everyone can do whatever with their own including those chemists who might have conflicted views… | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? At least we don't live in Texas...
Shouldn’t be a chemist in the first place in my opinion or someone who deals with medicine AND science. Which pretty much can go against religion anyway…
If you wanna be a professional, be a professional and take your religious views out of it. In my opinion, their body their choice, then everyone can do whatever with their own including those chemists who might have conflicted views…"If it’s legal in this country then no their views shouldn’t come into it. At all! Shouldn’t be allowed to do the job if they feel that strongly. Ridiculous that this is even being discussed. | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? At least we don't live in Texas...
Shouldn’t be a chemist in the first place in my opinion or someone who deals with medicine AND science. Which pretty much can go against religion anyway…
If you wanna be a professional, be a professional and take your religious views out of it. In my opinion, their body their choice, then everyone can do whatever with their own including those chemists who might have conflicted views…
If it’s legal in this country then no their views shouldn’t come into it. At all! Shouldn’t be allowed to do the job if they feel that strongly. Ridiculous that this is even being discussed. "Exactly!! I understand anyone might have their views but it shouldn’t preclude them doing the job they are required to do. So strange, feels like we are reverting back to dark times… | |||
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"It can also be questioned if you are married or in a long term relationship. That was my experience anyway. He couldn't understand why ex husband and i didn't want another child. He actually questioned whether my husband (at the time) should be there and be able to give his opinion. I had to text him to show that he was fully aware of what I was doing and that he agreed to be able to buy it "Ew. I can’t believe that… | |||
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"It can also be questioned if you are married or in a long term relationship. That was my experience anyway. He couldn't understand why ex husband and i didn't want another child. He actually questioned whether my husband (at the time) should be there and be able to give his opinion. I had to text him to show that he was fully aware of what I was doing and that he agreed to be able to buy it " | |||
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"It can also be questioned if you are married or in a long term relationship. That was my experience anyway. He couldn't understand why ex husband and i didn't want another child. He actually questioned whether my husband (at the time) should be there and be able to give his opinion. I had to text him to show that he was fully aware of what I was doing and that he agreed to be able to buy it "Crikey! I'm sure I read something similar about women wanting to be sterilised. They have to get their husband/ partner's permission...! Men however can get sterilised no questions asked. | |||
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"Can be refused if chemist’s religious views conflict with reason patient needs it. How mad is that? At least we don't live in Texas...
Shouldn’t be a chemist in the first place in my opinion or someone who deals with medicine AND science. Which pretty much can go against religion anyway…
If you wanna be a professional, be a professional and take your religious views out of it. In my opinion, their body their choice, then everyone can do whatever with their own including those chemists who might have conflicted views…
If it’s legal in this country then no their views shouldn’t come into it. At all! Shouldn’t be allowed to do the job if they feel that strongly. Ridiculous that this is even being discussed.
Exactly!! I understand anyone might have their views but it shouldn’t preclude them doing the job they are required to do. So strange, feels like we are reverting back to dark times… "  | |||
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"For most women getting the MAP isn't something they do regularly, often they're feeling a bit vulnerable and just want to get it over with. To then face the prospect of being questioned for reasons other than medical concerns or even refused would just make it all so much worse. " This ! It's not like getting your nails done. And not an easy decision for many, but what would someone who never was in that position know... | |||
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"For most women getting the MAP isn't something they do regularly, often they're feeling a bit vulnerable and just want to get it over with. To then face the prospect of being questioned for reasons other than medical concerns or even refused would just make it all so much worse. " ^^^^^^^ Yes I found it very stressful that my GP was refusing without an excusable reason. Thankfully I had the power of pursuaion. I explained to him that the negative side effects of an unwanted crisis pregnancy out-weighed the side effects of the MAP. It did take me at least a half hour to pursuade him though to prescribe me it. It was clear he was being judgemental on religious beliefs. I was quite shocked with his behaviour tbh. I would have gone further & reported him if he didn't give me the MAP because there were no medical reasons why I shouldn't have been given it. | |||
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"For most women getting the MAP isn't something they do regularly, often they're feeling a bit vulnerable and just want to get it over with. To then face the prospect of being questioned for reasons other than medical concerns or even refused would just make it all so much worse. ^^^^^^^ Yes I found it very stressful that my GP was refusing without an excusable reason. Thankfully I had the power of pursuaion. I explained to him that the negative side effects of an unwanted crisis pregnancy out-weighed the side effects of the MAP. It did take me at least a half hour to pursuade him though to prescribe me it. It was clear he was being judgemental on religious beliefs. I was quite shocked with his behaviour tbh. I would have gone further & reported him if he didn't give me the MAP because there were no medical reasons why I shouldn't have been given it." I can’t even imagine for someone who might be a bit less persuasive than you and gets dismissed by the GP for something like this that is necessary for some women… and they have nowhere else to turn probably. Disgusting!! I know it’s totally unrelated but for my hormones meds my GP was totally useless, no matter what I said so I decided to turn to private and shell the £££….But understandably not everyone might be able to go private for MAP for example (as it’s not just the medicine u pay but consultations etc etc). Some girls might feel they have no options really if their own gp says no or if chemists say no….. totally disgusting | |||
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"It can also be questioned if you are married or in a long term relationship. That was my experience anyway. He couldn't understand why ex husband and i didn't want another child. He actually questioned whether my husband (at the time) should be there and be able to give his opinion. I had to text him to show that he was fully aware of what I was doing and that he agreed to be able to buy it
Crikey!
I'm sure I read something similar about women wanting to be sterilised. They have to get their husband/ partner's permission...! Men however can get sterilised no questions asked. "Actually, my ex husband's GP asked my "permission" when he went in to ask about the snip. I just happened to go to the appointment with him but he wanted my thoughts and opinions on it first. | |||
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"It can also be questioned if you are married or in a long term relationship. That was my experience anyway. He couldn't understand why ex husband and i didn't want another child. He actually questioned whether my husband (at the time) should be there and be able to give his opinion. I had to text him to show that he was fully aware of what I was doing and that he agreed to be able to buy it
Crikey!
I'm sure I read something similar about women wanting to be sterilised. They have to get their husband/ partner's permission...! Men however can get sterilised no questions asked.
Actually, my ex husband's GP asked my "permission" when he went in to ask about the snip. I just happened to go to the appointment with him but he wanted my thoughts and opinions on it first. "I'm pleasantly surprised.  | |||
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