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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. " Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning " Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word! | |||
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"I have done in the past yes especially if its something I've been through. " Experience can be a big motivation. Understanding what a person is going through and how they feel can be both helpful but also triggering | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word!" Yep. One of the reasons we're guarded. | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word!" So you think that it was either a ploy or playing you for attention? | |||
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"I have done and will do again. It does depend on if I think I can help and if I have the energy to help. Not to sound selfish but if I'm in a crappy place myself I'm not the best person to help someone else. " That makes absolute sense. You can’t pour from an empty jar | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word! So you think that it was either a ploy or playing you for attention? " If you were as bad as he said he was where he was literally going to take his life you don’t say that and start turning it sexual! So yes. I do and I felt a mug and was extremely pissed off. | |||
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"My good friends on here know that I will always help when I can " What about people who aren’t friends but are in need? | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word! So you think that it was either a ploy or playing you for attention? If you were as bad as he said he was where he was literally going to take his life you don’t say that and start turning it sexual! So yes. I do and I felt a mug and was extremely pissed off. " I can absolutely understand that anger | |||
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"If I think I can help I will. I'm more inclined to if it's someone I've interacted with on the forum though to be honest, because I don't want people thinking I'm poking my nose in. Last year I got lots of support from people of the forum after having a ectopic pregnancy rupture and ending up in HDU. " So an understanding of the person and some level of rapport is helpful to you? That makes sense | |||
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"I will reach out. I have reached out and I will reach out again but ........ it's not consistent. Plus I do feel that there is often judgements attached... Like nope they are a mean fucker Nope they are fat cos they shovel it in faster than they can shit it out Nope cos they keep doing the same thing over n over n over Nope cos they are limpet like and don't let go ..... I'd like to say that I help anyone regardless but self preservation kicks in with me .... I will help ANYONE in the street...... moving buggies, catching dogs, looking for lost pets , lost money , directions etc etc etc ..... Sadly if I'm aware that someone has severe mental health problems then again I consider if I am capable of getting involved in a sustained manner and often just direct them the right way for help..... etc. Hope I got that in before the deluded saintly brigade rock up with their usual impressions of Mother Theresa in blinkers and on helium. " So you tend to triage people? No judgement here, I’m just interested in the different reactions and reasoning of people | |||
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"I used to regularly help people, but it drained me, and usually for little thanks. Then I see the same behaviours and issues repeated by the person. I give my time and help far less nowadays. I just do me. " Lesson well learned. There's a type that don't even notice you are being sapped of life ....... | |||
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"I will reach out. I have reached out and I will reach out again but ........ it's not consistent. Plus I do feel that there is often judgements attached... Like nope they are a mean fucker Nope they are fat cos they shovel it in faster than they can shit it out Nope cos they keep doing the same thing over n over n over Nope cos they are limpet like and don't let go ..... I'd like to say that I help anyone regardless but self preservation kicks in with me .... I will help ANYONE in the street...... moving buggies, catching dogs, looking for lost pets , lost money , directions etc etc etc ..... Sadly if I'm aware that someone has severe mental health problems then again I consider if I am capable of getting involved in a sustained manner and often just direct them the right way for help..... etc. Hope I got that in before the deluded saintly brigade rock up with their usual impressions of Mother Theresa in blinkers and on helium. So you tend to triage people? No judgement here, I’m just interested in the different reactions and reasoning of people " expand on what you mean by triage and I'll answer as best I can on your definition | |||
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"Do you mean this = the sorting of and allocation of treatment to patients and especially battle and disaster victims according to a system of priorities designed to maximize the number of survivors. 2 : the sorting of patients (as in an emergency room) according to the urgency of their need for care." The second one of sorts. Place your time and energy where it will be best served | |||
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"I will reach out. I have reached out and I will reach out again but ........ it's not consistent. Plus I do feel that there is often judgements attached... Like nope they are a mean fucker Nope they are fat cos they shovel it in faster than they can shit it out Nope cos they keep doing the same thing over n over n over Nope cos they are limpet like and don't let go ..... I'd like to say that I help anyone regardless but self preservation kicks in with me .... I will help ANYONE in the street...... moving buggies, catching dogs, looking for lost pets , lost money , directions etc etc etc ..... Sadly if I'm aware that someone has severe mental health problems then again I consider if I am capable of getting involved in a sustained manner and often just direct them the right way for help..... etc. Hope I got that in before the deluded saintly brigade rock up with their usual impressions of Mother Theresa in blinkers and on helium. " Yep. I turned my car round last week after seeing a clearly confused elderly woman wandering along a country lane with no footpath. I knew I'd be able to help her by calling the police. A month or so ago I saw an elderly man fall over in the street. Immediately other people phoned an ambulance and began to administer first aid so I walked past. There was nothing useful I could do. | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. " I don't anymore. I try to look after closest ones when I'm strong enough to be a pillar for others. You can't fix things for everyone (if anyone ?) and you need to put yourself first sometimes. Most of the time really. Like you said about oxygen mask the other day. | |||
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"The harsh truth I think is that a certain amount of needy threads are just attention seeking, like the one Nora mentioned which I remember well. I'll contact people I know or have chatted to if it seems like they're having a bad time but with strangers I am a little wary." | |||
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"I will reach out. I have reached out and I will reach out again but ........ it's not consistent. Plus I do feel that there is often judgements attached... Like nope they are a mean fucker Nope they are fat cos they shovel it in faster than they can shit it out Nope cos they keep doing the same thing over n over n over Nope cos they are limpet like and don't let go ..... I'd like to say that I help anyone regardless but self preservation kicks in with me .... I will help ANYONE in the street...... moving buggies, catching dogs, looking for lost pets , lost money , directions etc etc etc ..... Sadly if I'm aware that someone has severe mental health problems then again I consider if I am capable of getting involved in a sustained manner and often just direct them the right way for help..... etc. Hope I got that in before the deluded saintly brigade rock up with their usual impressions of Mother Theresa in blinkers and on helium. " You wouldn't help me cos I'm fat? (I eat slow by the way.) | |||
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"My good friends on here know that I will always help when I can What about people who aren’t friends but are in need? " It’s kinda what I do for a job and I’m not sure I want to bring it to fab. I have reached out in the past and it’s either turned nasty out they have been attention seekers. My inbox is always open with no fillers if anyone needed to talk but I know the point when someone needs professionally helped | |||
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"I will reach out. I have reached out and I will reach out again but ........ it's not consistent. Plus I do feel that there is often judgements attached... Like nope they are a mean fucker Nope they are fat cos they shovel it in faster than they can shit it out Nope cos they keep doing the same thing over n over n over Nope cos they are limpet like and don't let go ..... I'd like to say that I help anyone regardless but self preservation kicks in with me .... I will help ANYONE in the street...... moving buggies, catching dogs, looking for lost pets , lost money , directions etc etc etc ..... Sadly if I'm aware that someone has severe mental health problems then again I consider if I am capable of getting involved in a sustained manner and often just direct them the right way for help..... etc. Hope I got that in before the deluded saintly brigade rock up with their usual impressions of Mother Theresa in blinkers and on helium. You wouldn't help me cos I'm fat? (I eat slow by the way.)" I'd help you like a shot. You just have to want it too. Too many people think that if they ask for help the other person can fix things...... they can't P.S. I know it was tongue in cheek what you said but I don't want anyone thinking i'm fattist...... not with these hips. | |||
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"Do you mean this = the sorting of and allocation of treatment to patients and especially battle and disaster victims according to a system of priorities designed to maximize the number of survivors. 2 : the sorting of patients (as in an emergency room) according to the urgency of their need for care. The second one of sorts. Place your time and energy where it will be best served" Nope. I don't think we can say I 'triage' ..... cos sometimes I Grannyage or Fuckthatage... and some are cast by the wayside.. arge. | |||
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"Do you mean this = the sorting of and allocation of treatment to patients and especially battle and disaster victims according to a system of priorities designed to maximize the number of survivors. 2 : the sorting of patients (as in an emergency room) according to the urgency of their need for care. The second one of sorts. Place your time and energy where it will be best served Nope. I don't think we can say I 'triage' ..... cos sometimes I Grannyage or Fuckthatage... and some are cast by the wayside.. arge." Also known as Senior Moments I believe | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word!" I’ve reached out a few times to people on the forum who have said they were struggling. Nearly every man turned it into something sexual, it made me really uncomfortable because it’s harder to say no to someone who is struggling. I’ve stopped doing it now, which is a shame. Women appreciate the support though. | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word! I’ve reached out a few times to people on the forum who have said they were struggling. Nearly every man turned it into something sexual, it made me really uncomfortable because it’s harder to say no to someone who is struggling. I’ve stopped doing it now, which is a shame. Women appreciate the support though. " Me too. I rarely get involved but for some reason I knew I wouldn’t sleep if I just logged off. I’ll always be there for friends but I won’t be doing that again on here x | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word! I’ve reached out a few times to people on the forum who have said they were struggling. Nearly every man turned it into something sexual, it made me really uncomfortable because it’s harder to say no to someone who is struggling. I’ve stopped doing it now, which is a shame. Women appreciate the support though. Me too. I rarely get involved but for some reason I knew I wouldn’t sleep if I just logged off. I’ll always be there for friends but I won’t be doing that again on here x" Which is such a shame, because it means those who genuinely need it may not get it, because of the selfish actions of some. | |||
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"I have done and will do again. It does depend on if I think I can help and if I have the energy to help. Not to sound selfish but if I'm in a crappy place myself I'm not the best person to help someone else. " Doesn't sound selfish to me. | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word!" This has happened to me before, and that same night I spoke to someone who had just the same experience with the same person. Definitely taught me to take some things with a pinch of salt on here. | |||
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"I’ve done it twice and both times it was turned. I was up most of the night not long ago trying to help someone. I probably won’t now. Turned how? I’m sorry, I don’t understand your meaning Turned as in he was suicidal. Chatted to him most of the night, him numbers to call etc. Looked up stuff on the internet. I was genuinely worried. Then after a few hours he said sexy pics can I add you as a friend. Fuming isn’t the word! So you think that it was either a ploy or playing you for attention? If you were as bad as he said he was where he was literally going to take his life you don’t say that and start turning it sexual! So yes. I do and I felt a mug and was extremely pissed off. " Unfortunately it is a judgement call but shouldn't beat yourself up over it. Have been there before but still believe it is better to respond unless i know it is fuckwhit windup, which sadly is most of the time as guys will stoop and some women ever lower to try and get somewhere. But i would beat myself up more if i did nothing and they say did take their life, or didn't help if i could have. It is difficult being taken for a mug, thats what exploiters do. I have been taken for a mug so many times ut it wouldn't stop me from helping but just a bit wiser Seen people claiming they have alsorts over the years, dying, cancer only to be perfectly healthy. Lets be honest you only needed to go into chat and the forums see how many are exploiting covid. | |||
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"I don't think I would. I'm nowhere near qualified enough to give people life advice so I wouldn't be able to tell them what they need to hear. If they just want an ear to listen to their problems without expecting a solution, then I don't mind being that ear." This is a very good point. If someone is struggling badly then what help can an online stranger give except sympathy ? Someone in that situation needs professional help and support from those close to them, asap. The fact they look for that help here does raise my scepticism, I'm sorry to say. | |||
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"I don't think I would. I'm nowhere near qualified enough to give people life advice so I wouldn't be able to tell them what they need to hear. If they just want an ear to listen to their problems without expecting a solution, then I don't mind being that ear. This is a very good point. If someone is struggling badly then what help can an online stranger give except sympathy ? Someone in that situation needs professional help and support from those close to them, asap. The fact they look for that help here does raise my scepticism, I'm sorry to say." Does that apply to both men and women? | |||
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"I don't think I would. I'm nowhere near qualified enough to give people life advice so I wouldn't be able to tell them what they need to hear. If they just want an ear to listen to their problems without expecting a solution, then I don't mind being that ear. This is a very good point. If someone is struggling badly then what help can an online stranger give except sympathy ? Someone in that situation needs professional help and support from those close to them, asap. The fact they look for that help here does raise my scepticism, I'm sorry to say." Exactly, I don't mind people coming on here said g they're in a bad place as a cry for help means we should help them. Iny opinion though, the extent of that help should pretty much be "I'm sorry to hear that, there are people who care. Please reach out to your friends and family or call someone who can help you the right way". As strangers on the internet, we can't pretend that we can provide more than that. | |||
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"I don't think I would. I'm nowhere near qualified enough to give people life advice so I wouldn't be able to tell them what they need to hear. If they just want an ear to listen to their problems without expecting a solution, then I don't mind being that ear. This is a very good point. If someone is struggling badly then what help can an online stranger give except sympathy ? Someone in that situation needs professional help and support from those close to them, asap. The fact they look for that help here does raise my scepticism, I'm sorry to say. Does that apply to both men and women?" Of course it does. Why wouldn't it? | |||
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"I don't think I would. I'm nowhere near qualified enough to give people life advice so I wouldn't be able to tell them what they need to hear. If they just want an ear to listen to their problems without expecting a solution, then I don't mind being that ear. This is a very good point. If someone is struggling badly then what help can an online stranger give except sympathy ? Someone in that situation needs professional help and support from those close to them, asap. The fact they look for that help here does raise my scepticism, I'm sorry to say. Does that apply to both men and women?" I am more sceptical about men's needy posts, yes, partly from experience and partly because competing for attention is more of an issue for men on Fab. But certainly not only a male phenomena. | |||
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"I don't think I would. I'm nowhere near qualified enough to give people life advice so I wouldn't be able to tell them what they need to hear. If they just want an ear to listen to their problems without expecting a solution, then I don't mind being that ear. This is a very good point. If someone is struggling badly then what help can an online stranger give except sympathy ? Someone in that situation needs professional help and support from those close to them, asap. The fact they look for that help here does raise my scepticism, I'm sorry to say. Does that apply to both men and women? Of course it does. Why wouldn't it?" I was asking the guy who actually said it Simple curiosity | |||
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"Mine is purely just lost all confidence in everything unfortunately it is what it is meds changed so give them a few weeks to work " Hope they kick in soon. X | |||
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"I always have and always will be there for friends and family and people who I have got to know quite well. otherwise whilst I empathise with anyone who is in need I tend not to get too involved these days other than providing information and signposting to other services etc. I worked as a mental health nurse for many years at the same time as supporting my ex partner who became increasingly actively suicidal over a long period of time. I was left feeling completely drained physically, emotionally and mentally. I never got any support for myself at the time and I’m only just starting to feel like I have a life of my own now. So choosing when and how I offer support to others, for me, is a matter of self preservation. " This is so true. My mother was never suicidal but all through my life I've supported her with her mental health issues or as a child suffered the consequences of them and also supported my father with his issues resulting from her problems. Nobody ever supports the back room boys. I now choose very carefully who I offer help to | |||
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"Yep. If I can offer help, support or even just an ear to someone in need I will. I've been through plenty of shit without having anyone there. I know how much of a difference it can make. " Yes, this ^ An open, non-judgemental ear for someone who’s struggling isn’t much to give, but can mean the world to the one that needs it. I’d much rather make the offer and be made a mug of, than scroll by and not help ‘just in case’, as it can be difficult actually taking that step of asking for help. There are a lot of people in overwhelm still. Me included, on occasion. | |||
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