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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guilty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dunno not got all the facts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Off with his head!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guilty.

And the tip of the iceberg.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Guilty.

And the tip of the iceberg."

Agrees. A family of wrong uns

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Guilty of being a prat.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

I bet he’s sweating now

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By *am047Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Guilty, who else trys to question the validity of the US court, and also arguing that the papers weren't served correctly, and i don't mean he didn't get them on a silver tray, Guilty as fuck

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I've no idea. I'm not sure why anybody else thinks they do

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By *TK421-Man
over a year ago

Cheltenham

Innocent till proven guilty.

But my gut says he's guilty as fuck.

Russell Howard did a great sketch on this prat after the TV interview.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

And who exactly was Jimmy Saville visiting, when he was just popping into Betty & Phil's gaff?

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By *ero200Man
over a year ago

staffs

Don’t no , don’t care , nothing will happen so whats the point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?"

not sure I think he was in Pizza Hut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He’s not trying very hard to prove his innocence- more trying to run away from the issue

Not very convincing

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

He has atrocious morals, regardless of whether he has been guilty of these crimes, over an extended period. Certainly stupid as well as his suspect taste in friends and private life. I think he's not really shown anything that suggests much other than investment in association with people who were persistently guilty of those crimes whilst with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?"

This was played out all ready in a thread !

Still hilarious to talk about !

Anyone that looks at that interview and seen them pics and still thinks he hasn’t anything to hide !

Well then you just can’t reason with dumb

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

I'm not hear to judge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not hear to judge"

That’s literally all I’m here to do

And he’s a model for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've no idea. I'm not sure why anybody else thinks they do "

Great answer. It restored my faith in the human race.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"I'm not hear to judge

That’s literally all I’m here to do

And he’s a model for it "

A top model?

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down


"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?"

I would be astonished if anything transpires from the served legal documents; he is arrogant, entitled and pompous, but he deserves fair trial; not trial by public opinion.

His former life is now over after the Emily interview. Royal haters will enjoy schadenfreude.

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By *had69Man
over a year ago

morpeth

Guilty, lock him in the tower

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not hear to judge

That’s literally all I’m here to do

And he’s a model for it

A top model?"

Na but definitely in The top 3 !

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By *irth VaderMan
over a year ago

glasgow

The Banned Old Duke of York !!!

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

I have no sympathy for him but feel sad for his mum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Banned Old Duke of York !!!"

Banned from school yards indefinitely!!!!

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"The Banned Old Duke of York !!!

Banned from school yards indefinitely!!!!

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Behave you

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Banned Old Duke of York !!!

Banned from school yards indefinitely!!!!

Behave you "

Cmon Yasmeen ?

If anyone deserves some stick it’s that clown !

He won’t see he’s not on fab

Isn’t his age bracket

Ok I’m done now

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By *actilemale4uMan
over a year ago

London

If innocent would surely defend himself instead of claiming papers were incorrectly served

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

I think Prince Andrew is a ghastly person - a cosseted, over-privelaged, corrupt, bullying liar - and I see nothing about him that suggests he's anything other than a predatory paedophile, especially in light of his increasingly evasive behaviour... and that's discounting that transparently fucked up gaslighting interview.

But that's just my opinion and I understand I'm not in full possession of the relevant facts in the case against him, in which he has to be afforded a presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

Nevertheless, what really stands out and disgusts me is the way our establishment is, in effect, pulling back on the reins of those seeking to hold him to account and test his guilt or innocence. Any other person facing this kind of prosecution would have had documents served, been summoned and extradition procedures set underway long ago - especially given the additional existing requests by the FBI. You just have to look at the treatment of Julian Assange (whom I also find distasteful) to see that - compare and contrast... it's a very revealing and instructive difference given the similarity of the cases (or at least on the face of it).

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

Frankly, anyone not outraged by this disparity needs to wake the fuck up.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

He was used to make Epsteins shennagins look authentic so others could be b-mailed. Honey trapping dignitaries and celebs.

Wether he was fully aware remains to be seen. I think he'll be found innocent.

That pic looks fake. I feel sorry for the victims.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He was used to make Epsteins shennagins look authentic so others could be b-mailed. Honey trapping dignitaries and celebs.

Wether he was fully aware remains to be seen. I think he'll be found innocent.

That pic looks fake. I feel sorry for the victims.

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So they needed that twat to make Epstein look guilty ?

Think they had that boxed off without coming after this sad act

And theyvNeed to get him to court before he can be found innocent and that’s seriously unlikely

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford


"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk "

Maybe this case blows up the extradition treaty ? Silver lining if it does.

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk

Maybe this case blows up the extradition treaty ? Silver lining if it does."

There's no doubt the current extradition treaty with the US sucks - it should be completely reciprocal, which it very much isn't.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Randy Andy.

Loads of ppl need to come forward but I think either they have been paid off,threatened or have gone swimming with the sharks.

Maybe it will be like jimmy saville and all his secrets will come out once hes dead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk "

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

It's all about the big payout

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's all about the big payout "

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it."

Oh that's ok then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Innocent until prooven guilty, and those jumping the gun, I bet yous wouldn't like to be accused of the same ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Innocent until prooven guilty, and those jumping the gun, I bet yous wouldn't like to be accused of the same ???"

No your right !

But if I was innocent and nothing to hide I’d come out and prove it !

Oh hang on he tried that didn’t he ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Innocent until prooven guilty, and those jumping the gun, I bet yous wouldn't like to be accused of the same ???"

Tricky proving innocence or guilt when you run away.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?

I would be astonished if anything transpires from the served legal documents; he is arrogant, entitled and pompous, but he deserves fair trial; not trial by public opinion.

His former life is now over after the Emily interview. Royal haters will enjoy schadenfreude. "

Labelling anyone who isn’t a fan of Andrew as a royal “hater” is a bit of a cop-out. I’m sure there are plenty of people who are supporters of the royal family in general but don’t think much of Andrew after decades of bad press.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?

I would be astonished if anything transpires from the served legal documents; he is arrogant, entitled and pompous, but he deserves fair trial; not trial by public opinion.

His former life is now over after the Emily interview. Royal haters will enjoy schadenfreude.

Labelling anyone who isn’t a fan of Andrew as a royal “hater” is a bit of a cop-out. I’m sure there are plenty of people who are supporters of the royal family in general but don’t think much of Andrew after decades of bad press. "

Most people outside the UK probably had no clue who he was until this all kicked off !

But that interview is golden !

Talk about the definition of digging your hole deeper !

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By *orkiebar51Man
over a year ago

Keighley

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By *orkiebar51Man
over a year ago

Keighley


"Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it."

Spot on

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it."

Why are you referring to her as a prostitute?

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

He has a firm alibi he was in Pizza Express Woking enjoying a meal, I hear they do a wonderful pheasent pizza thin _ase with wild truffles served with artichoke and oyster mushroom...delightful.

Rumour has it he went for the 2000 red with his meal. He likes the young full bodied ones.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands


"Guilty of sleeping with 17 year old prostitute Think that's about it.

Why are you referring to her as a prostitute? "

I agree. He was in a position of power and exploted this person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe he’s guilty but will never be held accountable, they will find a way to get him out of it

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By *erfectman122Man
over a year ago

from somewhere nice

I’m no judge…. But rather guilty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I believe he’s guilty but will never be held accountable, they will find a way to get him out of it"

Yeah keep him hidden in a garden bush in Buckingham palace

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I believe he’s guilty but will never be held accountable, they will find a way to get him out of it

Yeah keep him hidden in a garden bush in Buckingham palace "

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By *ickdasterdly51Man
over a year ago

Lingfield

Certainly guilty of having questionable judgement in his choice of friends.

My gut feel is that he's actually guilty of a number of things but it's going to be very difficult to prove after all this time if it comes down to one person's word against the other.

However if some real show stopping evidence emerges.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that "

Yep Think you did !!!

Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that

Yep Think you did !!!

Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke "

Oh dear! Me and my foot in mouth syndrome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that

Yep Think you did !!!

Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke

Oh dear! Me and my foot in mouth syndrome "

And operating that JCB digger for that large hole you seem so intent on digging !

Keep it up its giving me a laugh anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that

Yep Think you did !!!

Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke

Oh dear! Me and my foot in mouth syndrome

And operating that JCB digger for that large hole you seem so intent on digging !

Keep it up its giving me a laugh anyway "

It’s a talent you know, not everyone has it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that

Yep Think you did !!!

Expect a back lash from the Nancy’s on here that can’t take a joke

Oh dear! Me and my foot in mouth syndrome

And operating that JCB digger for that large hole you seem so intent on digging !

Keep it up its giving me a laugh anyway

It’s a talent you know, not everyone has it "

No they might have it they just don’t have the balls to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that "

Yep....

A tunnel and Paris spring to mind . .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that

Yep....

A tunnel and Paris spring to mind . ."

We got another trouble maker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The royals can get away with murder

Oooppps did I just say that

Yep....

A tunnel and Paris spring to mind . ."

We’ll be on the naughty step

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By *nasuitMan
over a year ago

Ruislip

With so much inequality in the world and so much bad shit happening it makes me sad.

But then I think, hey they might actually bring a member of the royal family to justice for being a sex pest and that makes me happy again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With so much inequality in the world and so much bad shit happening it makes me sad.

But then I think, hey they might actually bring a member of the royal family to justice for being a sex pest and that makes me happy again."

It’s the little things in life mate

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By *aseMan
over a year ago

Gourock

Guilty......Beast

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I see he is doing his very best to avoid the summons saying it wasn’t issued legally.

What a worm. Hasn’t even gone down the tried and tested sleazy pay off route on the sly.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I have no clue. None of us do

However I am not surprised that he is avoiding answering questions as if this thread is the same as peoples views in general then he has been found guilty already. Would that be a fair trial

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

PS serious allegations should be kept away from the thread, we can only talk about what is being reported

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS serious allegations should be kept away from the thread, we can only talk about what is being reported"

Fair enough !

I don’t need another ban over that lad

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By *olacolaMan
over a year ago

lincoln

100 percent guilty. Only real reason we never ever see him is because someone will take a photo of him sweating . Biggest load of bullshit ever that

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york


"I've no idea. I'm not sure why anybody else thinks they do "

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

I say not guilty and his accuser will become very wealthy at the end of it all.

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By *scobar67Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Beast

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By *olacolaMan
over a year ago

lincoln


"100 percent guilty. Only real reason we never ever see him is because someone will take a photo of him sweating . Biggest load of bullshit ever that"

I should probably retract this as it may fall foul of admin. Admin I’m trying to delete I don’t know how

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

It is fine Monkey.

The posts I was referring to have been removed and had different allegations

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?"

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as I know only a personal view I thought the law in uk was innocent till proven guilty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation "

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no idea. Lots of versions of events fit with what I know.... He could be fully aware, or just a foolish man caught in the middle of a shit storm. He could have been willing from tej start or caught on a slippery slope.

Either which way he's likely to be trial by media and so is fucked. Whatever comes in the court case, there will be some mud that rightfully sticks (given the wider context). But also i suspect other mud that sticks rightly or wrongly.

And given the sentences etc involved, even if I were innocent, I'd probably look at all loop holes to prevent this going to court.

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By *mizhereMan
over a year ago

Thame Area

Guilty I’m afraid evidence if he wasn’t why did he stay connected to the convicted Paedo

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough / Kettering

Don't know, don't really care! Sounds like the media (as usual) have got their teeth in to him and won't let go until he's jailed or commits suicide! Thats how these things normally work out.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"As far as I know only a personal view I thought the law in uk was innocent till proven guilty "

This

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By *hristopherd999Man
over a year ago

Brentwood

I don't doubt it's true but there is more to it, the girl doesn't exactly look terrified in the pics of them, she looks pretty happy to be there

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By *aviniaCDTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds (close to GAP)

If he's found guilty, I wonder if the Mods will ban him....

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By *arker secrets 321Man
over a year ago

West Bromwich

No matter wot he won't face a trail .how come a us court can serve papers on a royal.yet UK Court can't serve papers on a us diplomats wife who killed a young lad on his bike outside a army _ase x ?

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By *mizhereMan
over a year ago

Thame Area

Agree the lad on the bike needs justice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As far as I know only a personal view I thought the law in uk was innocent till proven guilty

This "

'Fab Justice' is about as reliable as 'Fab Straight'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not saying he's guilty as none of us know the facts but he's definitely in dodgy water, enough to cast doubts

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman
over a year ago

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His arrogance in that interview was astounding.

He remembers exactly where he was on an insignificant night years ago, he doesn’t sweat.

He’s dodgy as hell

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By *ee04Man
over a year ago

Essex

On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point).

Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on.

As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair.

As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here.

But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account?

Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Really hope they use that tv interview in court and subpoena the staff from Pizza Express.

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By *ifornowCouple
over a year ago

Skegness

“Regrets over yesterday and the fear of tomorrow are twin thieves that rob us of the moment.”............

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point).

Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on.

*** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. ***

As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here.

But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account?

Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10. "

*** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point).

Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on.

*** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. ***

As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here.

But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account?

Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10.

*** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing."

100% agree with this. It's how abusers get away with things "look, she's not complaining, she's actually enjoying it"

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over a year ago


"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point).

Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on.

*** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. ***

As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here.

But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account?

Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10.

*** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing.

100% agree with this. It's how abusers get away with things "look, she's not complaining, she's actually enjoying it" "

and she's only a 17 year old prostitute!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He’s always looked a bit shifty to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know whether he is guilty or not either, hate making presumptions on people I don't know on what I've read or seen in media.

The only thing I am glad to see is, that even the elite, whether they be movie moguls or even the son of the Queen of England, can be held to account for alleged criminal behaviour. Where as in years gone by this would have been covered up by money or power.

Also the people talking about the girls being a prostitute. Were they not vulnerable victims from difficult backgrounds who were manipulated and groomed by a wealthy evil individual, just like the grooming gangs in the uk.

As for the pictures of the girl not looking terrified and looking happy. They could have been ploughed with. mood altering chemicals before party's by Epstien or Maxwell.

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By *omino51Man
over a year ago

loughborough

He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ????

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

"

Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway )

I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

I don't believe we will ever know the truth.

The only thing I'm certain will happen, is the lawyers and media outlets will be given endless opportunities to fatten their wallets.

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By *rsmith21zMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Prince Andrew Guilty or Innocent What do you think ?"

Guilty no question. It will all be swept under the carpet though you watch

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over a year ago


"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ????"

Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left?

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over a year ago


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway )

I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc

"

Guilty or not !

He ain’t going to prison !

I like your point tho you obviously have morals

but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ??

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway )

I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc

Guilty or not !

He ain’t going to prison !

I like your point tho you obviously have morals

but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ??"

She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed

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over a year ago


"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ????

Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left?"

What’s he going to do ? hit her in the head with a polo stick

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By *actilemale4uMan
over a year ago

London

I wonder if ghislaine maxwell will spill the beans for a lighter sentence when her trial starts

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway )

I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc

Guilty or not !

He ain’t going to prison !

I like your point tho you obviously have morals

but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ??

She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed"

And now she’s looking for another top-up

And let’s face it if there was no money to be made her and the lawyers would all fade into the distance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway )

I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc

Guilty or not !

He ain’t going to prison !

I like your point tho you obviously have morals

but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ??

She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed"

Pretty sure he died in prison ? Sounds like justice !

I’m kidding I don’t know the full details about the countless girls that gave evidence against that creep !

But he was pretty much a done deal without her testimony so why not get money !?

You won’t agree but I do see where your coming from

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway )

I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc

Guilty or not !

He ain’t going to prison !

I like your point tho you obviously have morals

but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ??

She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed

Pretty sure he died in prison ? Sounds like justice !

I’m kidding I don’t know the full details about the countless girls that gave evidence against that creep !

But he was pretty much a done deal without her testimony so why not get money !?

You won’t agree but I do see where your coming from

"

It didn't get to court. The young girls were paid off to keep quiet well before he was arrested and then died in prison.

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over a year ago


"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ????

Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left?

What’s he going to do ? hit her in the head with a polo stick

"

Powerful man with a lot of contacts....nothing now if we are talking present tense!...

I don't underestimate these young ladies and what could of been said to make them stay! If she was under 16 it would be a whole different talking point I'm sure!

They're still victims at the hands of that awful man and his female friend.....

Let's see what happens to that one in court.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway )

I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc

Guilty or not !

He ain’t going to prison !

I like your point tho you obviously have morals

but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ??

She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed

Pretty sure he died in prison ? Sounds like justice !

I’m kidding I don’t know the full details about the countless girls that gave evidence against that creep !

But he was pretty much a done deal without her testimony so why not get money !?

You won’t agree but I do see where your coming from

It didn't get to court. The young girls were paid off to keep quiet well before he was arrested and then died in prison.

"

Really ??? So how did they convict him if none of them testified??

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

PS Andrew is trying to use the pay off as a get out clause as he thinks he was mentioned in it

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

Let’s do an exchange, we send him to the states if they send us the woman that killed that poor young lad near the air _ase in Cambridgeshire. Both have their moment in court.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Andrew is trying to use the pay off as a get out clause as he thinks he was mentioned in it "
haha so you jumped on board pretty sure I remember you trying to rain this thread in earlier ?

It’s just an interesting topic right

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"It's all about the big payout

So he’s really innocent there basically just extorting him for been dumb ??!?

If he was a skint nobody she and the lawyers would not bother pursuing him for compensation

Yep I agree they would charge him and get him locked up like normal people accused of this crime

But why not get paid

Because money isn't everything. It would also be tainted money and a reminder every time you spent some of a horrid time ( that's what I would think anyway )

I don't get why people accept a pay off instead of going through with a prosecution. They are allowing the person to do the same thing to others for a new car etc

Guilty or not !

He ain’t going to prison !

I like your point tho you obviously have morals

but if you can’t get him to prison would you rather nothing ??

She took a pay off instead of sending Epstein to prison according to the News . It doesn't seem like she wants justice for a crime committed

Pretty sure he died in prison ? Sounds like justice !

I’m kidding I don’t know the full details about the countless girls that gave evidence against that creep !

But he was pretty much a done deal without her testimony so why not get money !?

You won’t agree but I do see where your coming from

It didn't get to court. The young girls were paid off to keep quiet well before he was arrested and then died in prison.

Really ??? So how did they convict him if none of them testified??

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The lawsuit was in 2009. I am guessing other people testified.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 14/09/21 14:39:15]"

Oops !!!

Ok I won’t reply to that one since you deleted it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof. "

We'll have none of your 'proof' nonsense in this thread, Lorna.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"PS Andrew is trying to use the pay off as a get out clause as he thinks he was mentioned in it haha so you jumped on board pretty sure I remember you trying to rain this thread in earlier ?

It’s just an interesting topic right "

I didn't. I asked people not to put different allegations on the thread. I also said I have no clue whether he did it or not.

Then I posted what is being reported right now

I still don't know if he abused young women or not.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"[Removed by poster at 14/09/21 14:39:15]

Oops !!!

Ok I won’t reply to that one since you deleted it "

Reply away, I posted again with a bit added

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof. "

Not having proof does not prevent a trial by internet, it actually encourages it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's he done now? I haven't been following this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's he done now? I haven't been following this "

I know right !

Can’t bring Andrew anywhere without him causing a world wide scandal!

He’s been up to no good is what

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"What's he done now? I haven't been following this "

According to him, nothing, he took the family to pizza express

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By *omino51Man
over a year ago

loughborough


"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ????

Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left?"

If "The firm" wanted her dead she wouldn't be here now, I'm no Andrew fan, but still got to believe in innocent until proven guilty, there seems to be alot of judge, jury and executioners in fabland. Somethings never change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not interested if he's guilty nothing will happen if he's not guilty he'll carry on regardless just like alot of men with wealth and power and honestly most would do the same if given the opportunity to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone in London once overheard him saying.. If there's grass on the field play ball.. And I don't think he was talking about the polo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Someone in London once overheard him saying.. If there's grass on the field play ball.. And I don't think he was talking about the polo "

Typical Andrew chat for ye !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's prob guilty of being used and a prat, but I did read she flew to 3-4 different countries to meet up with him. Good job she was playing hard to get. ????

Did you read she was threatened with her life if she left?

If "The firm" wanted her dead she wouldn't be here now, I'm no Andrew fan, but still got to believe in innocent until proven guilty, there seems to be alot of judge, jury and executioners in fabland. Somethings never change."

It was a question I'm asking, if that was read.....

According to the victim she was manipulated to meet the royal on a few occasions and threatened by the manipulator (not the royal) if she ever thought of leaving and reporting. The royal in my opinion, was a puppet like many others in power at the time.

How 'grown' men - if they are innocent fall for this type of manipulation, when they're fully aware the ages of these young ladies.....I mean all that education and still thick to make the wrong 'innocent' choices ...

Sorry I was looking at a broader picture, rather than just the royal meeting 3/4 times....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there is guilt..one word against another..I would focus more on how do ALL those young women get such free reign from authority figures in their lives to go jetsetting around the world!

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By *exysparkMan
over a year ago

Chester

Of course he is . Epsteins mate . The Ghislaine Maxwell trial will be revealing some very big big names soon also .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Someone in London once overheard him saying.. If there's grass on the field play ball.. And I don't think he was talking about the polo

Typical Andrew chat for ye !!!

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He's a hell of a boy, you can't take him anywhere

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point).

Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on.

*** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. ***

As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here.

But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account?

Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10.

*** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing.

100% agree with this. It's how abusers get away with things "look, she's not complaining, she's actually enjoying it"

and she's only a 17 year old prostitute!"

Why are you referring to her as a prostitute?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I'm not mistaken 16 is legal age here, what is the legal age over there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I'm not mistaken 16 is legal age here, what is the legal age over there? "

Really ???

Why is Andrew wasting his money going over to America then ??

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By *unny HarryMan
over a year ago

Deeside

No ale, no bail, just JAIL

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

In the end royals and political figures tend to have diary managers who schedule their days for them.

The lady in question will have had to go through immigration to enter the country.

So there will be evidence as to whether they could have met. If any of that evidence leans towards them not having met then the case will get thrown out.

If the evidence says they could of met then it will become he said she said.

I have no idea what he knew (no one does) but I assume any trial will draw out what evidence proves or invalidates any allegation.

Its easy to assume guilt as he is not likable, but proving guilt is another matter.

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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I don't have any time for the Royals , they are just there by dint of birth.

And Harry probably isn't a Royal anyway.

So Andrew should be investigated like anyone else and the court and jury should decide .

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By *udistcpl1Couple
over a year ago

Wirral


"Guilty, who else trys to question the validity of the US court, and also arguing that the papers weren't served correctly, and i don't mean he didn't get them on a silver tray, Guilty as fuck"

I honestly think he is guilty but why shouldn't he question a US court? His legal team are probably right - he has the money to pay for the best - so yes, the US court papers are a bit like Mickey Mouse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry..

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over a year ago


"On this I have to say if he didn’t know what was going on he’s an idiot (yes I know he really is but you get my point).

Welter he did or didn’t only the people there know what really went on.

*** As for the picture the girl does not seem under any duress quite the opposite to be fair. ***

As for the yanks you cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want him to stand trial then send the woman who mowed the kid down to face trial here.

But the big question should be who was in pizza express to verify his account?

Personally I’d like to think he wouldn’t have embarrassed his family and the country but the toffs have rules of there own, just look at the cunt in number 10.

*** Women in abusive relationships can be very skilled at smiling on the outside to avoid abuse behind closed doors. Her smile proves absolutely nothing.

100% agree with this. It's how abusers get away with things "look, she's not complaining, she's actually enjoying it"

and she's only a 17 year old prostitute!

Why are you referring to her as a prostitute? "

I'm referencing the earlier comments who appear to be of the opinion that a 17 year old child can choose to be a sex worker (and that it's ok for a dirty old prince to take advantage of such).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof.

We'll have none of your 'proof' nonsense in this thread, Lorna. "

Yeah who needs proof anyway.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry.."

I don't think you can have guilt by association.

If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one.

If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the end royals and political figures tend to have diary managers who schedule their days for them.

The lady in question will have had to go through immigration to enter the country.

So there will be evidence as to whether they could have met. If any of that evidence leans towards them not having met then the case will get thrown out.

If the evidence says they could of met then it will become he said she said.

I have no idea what he knew (no one does) but I assume any trial will draw out what evidence proves or invalidates any allegation.

Its easy to assume guilt as he is not likable, but proving guilt is another matter. "

I think it's already confirmed that she was in the same place at the same time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk "

Do a swap is what I think

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"In the end royals and political figures tend to have diary managers who schedule their days for them.

The lady in question will have had to go through immigration to enter the country.

So there will be evidence as to whether they could have met. If any of that evidence leans towards them not having met then the case will get thrown out.

If the evidence says they could of met then it will become he said she said.

I have no idea what he knew (no one does) but I assume any trial will draw out what evidence proves or invalidates any allegation.

Its easy to assume guilt as he is not likable, but proving guilt is another matter. "

One of the great misunderstandings of the legal system is that people think things have to be proved absolutely. Outside of clearcut legal points, at the end of the day, the judge or jury make a decision on balance, _ased on what they believe is the version of events that is most plausible. Bit things do not have to be “proved “ 100 percent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've no idea if he is guilty or not but my understanding is there isn't actually any proof.

Not having proof does not prevent a trial by internet, it actually encourages it "

Definitely and I will not say whether he is guilty or not because I do not know and if credible evidence comes to light its a different story. I just think potentially a family is getting torn apart on hearsay and if it goes to court and we hear proper evidence then I will make an informed opinion.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry..

I don't think you can have guilt by association.

If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one.

If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. "

I saw the actor chaz palminteri being interviewed once and he was talking about growing up in a rough area, saying that after one or two near misses with the law, a local cop gave him a piece of advice that if he kept hanging around with the same kids, it would eventually bite him in the ass, saying “if you lie down with dogs, you’ll get fleas”.

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

He said on tv that he would cooperate. But until now, he does not do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry..

I don't think you can have guilt by association.

If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one.

If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. "

The reco act in America is just that !!

But no I agree with your point I just don’t like ether one of them so I’ll try nit pick at anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry..

I don't think you can have guilt by association.

If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one.

If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association. "

The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry..

I don't think you can have guilt by association.

If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one.

If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association.

The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much

"

You know she is shady when Donald Trump has your back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry..

I don't think you can have guilt by association.

If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one.

If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association.

The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much

You know she is shady when Donald Trump has your back "

Yeah I don't think I would want him as my character witness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry..

I don't think you can have guilt by association.

If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one.

If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association.

The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much

You know she is shady when Donald Trump has your back

Yeah I don't think I would want him as my character witness. "

What a prick !

But Let’s not drag this thread even further in to the gutter by bringing him in to it !

Yep I know that’s on me let’s move on my bad

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

"

I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers.

Just a few points to comment on ....

1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol?

2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above).

3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform).

4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police.

5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please.

Good try though!!!!

Gbat

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By *omino51Man
over a year ago

loughborough

Let's not bring this thread down to childish levels, we all know the butler did it, with a _aseball bat, bent over the kitchen table. And she smiled

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By *m A FuckerMan
over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent


"Guilty.

And the tip of the iceberg."
agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers.

Just a few points to comment on ....

1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol?

2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above).

3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform).

4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police.

5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please.

Good try though!!!!

Gbat "

Calm down mate breath

Police are still all dick heads no need to read out the Bobby hand book

Good try tho

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

3 sides to every story!

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

I don’t know enough to say but I would be surprised if he wasn’t involved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t know enough to say but I would be surprised if he wasn’t involved "

I think it's probable he had knowledge or at least deep suspicions but I just can't think that he would have been directly involved in the grooming gang but im happy to be proved wrong by the courts.

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Guilty or not, without anonymity if proven innocent he will be the same as many people who have previously been accused of offences. Tarred with the brush by the public

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers.

Just a few points to comment on ....

1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol?

2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above).

3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform).

4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police.

5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please.

Good try though!!!!

Gbat "

Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers.

Just a few points to comment on ....

1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol?

2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above).

3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform).

4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police.

5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please.

Good try though!!!!

Gbat

Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice. "

They do suffice !! It’s entertaining

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers.

Just a few points to comment on ....

1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol?

2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above).

3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform).

4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police.

5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please.

Good try though!!!!

Gbat

Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice.

They do suffice !! It’s entertaining "

Maybe for some

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers.

Just a few points to comment on ....

1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol?

2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above).

3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform).

4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police.

5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please.

Good try though!!!!

Gbat

Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice.

They do suffice !! It’s entertaining "

I find it dangerous and unhelpful. I have seen the sort of damage it can do

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"A fund has paid out 150million to over 100 of Epsteins victims, if you are pally with him then you are pretty complicit. That's an industry..

I don't think you can have guilt by association.

If you go to a swingers club and later find out some scumbag had taken underage girls, should you also be guilty if you spoke to one.

If he is guilty that is fine but not guilty by association.

The association being Ghislaine Maxwell introduced them. Says too much

"

But once again you are saying this with full hindsight.

I had no idea this lady existed until epstine killed himself.

Now I don't rub shoulders with the rich and famous and maybe if you run in those circles you knew at the time that she was a wrong un.

But I don't know half of what people get up to who I associate with either work or socially.

I know what I know for the few hours I hang out with them, and the same in reverse. No one who knows me personally would have a clue that I am a swinger.

So once again guilt by association is no guilt at all.

May as well say the sins of the parents should be transferable to the kids.

If he is guilty he should go to jail but I'd like to see the facts not just peoples thoughts on him with no actual knowledge.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers.

Just a few points to comment on ....

1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol?

2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above).

3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform).

4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police.

5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please.

Good try though!!!!

Gbat

Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice.

They do suffice !! It’s entertaining

I find it dangerous and unhelpful. I have seen the sort of damage it can do "

You find what dangerous and unhelpful exactly?

And The damage to who ?

Mate I’m not getting smart honestly I’m interested to know what you meant ?

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

The Prince of Pork

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"The Americans might make every effort to bring him to court, as they are not happy about the repeated efforts to bring that woman who claimed diplomatic immunity back to the uk "

Anne Sacoolas? Good swap, as these two have a lot to answer for and should stand in the dock and not hide under the umbrella of diplomacy and duck their responsibility to face the music.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"

Consider that the police officers currently protecting Prince Andrew at Balmoral, shielding him from prosecution by refusing to confirm or deny his receipt of legal papers served (despite that the Home Secretary can order them to say), wear the same uniform and took the same vowes as those who waited and waited to grab Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy. I suppose the only difference is those shielding Andrew are royal protection officers... hardly unblemished when it comes to the sexual assault of young women I might add.

I'm impressed that you were able to change a thread about Prince Andrew into one about nefarious police officers.

Just a few points to comment on ....

1. How would the Protection Officers know the content of any document served upon Andrew? Do you think they all read his mail over a cuppa before patrol?

2. How could the Home Sec order the Police to say anything? The Police work with Politicians but are independent from them. And in any case, the Home Sec cannot order them to say something they don't actually know. (see point 1 above).

3. The Scottish police officers in and around Balmoral do not wear the same uniform as the Metropolitan Police in London. (In fact, not even all the English forces wear the same uniform).

4. The Scottish police in and around Balmoral took a different oath of office from those in the Metropolitan Police.

5. Which of the officers at Balmoral has sexually assaulted any young woman? Name just one of them if you could please.

Good try though!!!!

Gbat

Great note, Great clarity. Unfortunately, you are dealing with people for whom facts and proof don’t matter. Wild accusations suffice.

They do suffice !! It’s entertaining

I find it dangerous and unhelpful. I have seen the sort of damage it can do

You find what dangerous and unhelpful exactly?

And The damage to who ?

Mate I’m not getting smart honestly I’m

Linterested to know what you meant ? "

Wild accusations without proof. You find them entertaining, as you stated. I find them damaging and dangerous ... I have seen peoples lives, livelihoods, careers and relationships destroyed by this sort of behaviour. I prefer to stick to facts.

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