FabSwingers.com forum: Insulation Rebellion

By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

This splinter group has taken direct action this morning by blocking some roundabout off the M25. Their aim. To get every house in the UK fully insulated. My response.. I have actually ripped all of my insulation out to try and get a better kip at night in our hot summer nights.

Are they entitled to behave this way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you not find your house heats up more during the day and so has more heat to lose later on?

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By *ovetolearnMan
over a year ago

middlesbrough

its a nice idea that everybodys houses should be fully insulated to save the environment but who's going to pay for it all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They should sod off to other countries that are doing nothing about similar issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"its a nice idea that everybodys houses should be fully insulated to save the environment but who's going to pay for it all?"

There was a government initiative a few years ago which provided free loft insulation for households. We had ours done. It seems to me that anyone still not insulated either missed it or didn't qualify.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

M, together with God knows how many other thousands of cars, vans and lorrys sat on the M25 for 45 minutes while these dullards enjoyed their "entitlement" sure did wonders for the environment and really helped align people with their cause I'm sure.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"They should sod off to other countries that are doing nothing about similar issues. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This splinter group has taken direct action this morning by blocking some roundabout off the M25. Their aim. To get every house in the UK fully insulated. My response.. I have actually ripped all of my insulation out to try and get a better kip at night in our hot summer nights.

Are they entitled to behave this way."

Seems to be for a good cause, when I was under the council our house was freezing even in the summer, we couldn’t occupy the living room. Can imagine the same for others so I say go for it

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Its pathetic watching the.police do absolutely nothing while a bunch of entitled protestors disrupt everyone else.

I wonder how many doctors and nurses they've made late for work or how many people on zero hours contracts are losing valua keep pay because if this selfish action?

The sad thing is that the protestors may have a point but so many don't want to hear it now.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Its pathetic watching the.police do absolutely nothing while a bunch of entitled protestors disrupt everyone else.

I wonder how many doctors and nurses they've made late for work or how many people on zero hours contracts are losing valua keep pay because if this selfish action?

The sad thing is that the protestors may have a point but so many don't want to hear it now."

We just said the same thing

My niece works permanent night shifts as a critical care nurse. She was on her way home one morning absolutely shattered as you might imagine, when she was held up by protestors for hours. I was raging so you can only guess how she felt.

Protest by all means but think about who you're inconveniencing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have actually ripped all of my insulation out to try and get a better kip at night in our hot summer nights."

It's all over the mews.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the cancel culture.

It's their way and that's it, they have a legal duty and right to impose or inflict their views upon the rest of us no matter whether we agree or disagree. Gone are the days of freedom of choice and speech. But if the Met allow this thing to happen, it will continue.

Voice your displeasure to the Met Commander Cressida Dick(less).

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

It took the police 20 mins to get there.. if they had decided not to turn out then it could of ended nastily..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It took the police 20 mins to get there.. if they had decided not to turn out then it could of ended nastily.. "

It very nearly did when a bunch of them walked ONTO the M25 and decided to lie down in the middle of the fekkin motorway.

Bunch of entitled moronic Corbynites could have caused a major incident

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Were emergency services affected? If yes, they are idiots.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

These people have blocked the road again today. Are they justified or not?

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By *anddXXXCouple
over a year ago

London

"It's the cancel culture.

Voice your displeasure to the Met Commander Cressida Dick(less)."

Don't think she'll give a shit. It happened in Hertfordshire, nowt to do with the Met.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"These people have blocked the road again today. Are they justified or not?"

Tailbacks for miles apparently Tom.

It's all over the queues.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"These people have blocked the road again today. Are they justified or not?"

I don't know if they're justified or not but I'd be raging if I was in a queue.

What if there are people in there trying to get to chemotherapy appointments or dialysis, going to pick up children or carers going to a client or just people going about their business? They're targeting the wrong people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"These people have blocked the road again today. Are they justified or not?

I don't know if they're justified or not but I'd be raging if I was in a queue.

Lock them all up.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"These people have blocked the road again today. Are they justified or not?

I don't know if they're justified or not but I'd be raging if I was in a queue.

I listened to live radio... There was a lady stopped from going to her NHS operation that had been delayed for two years, a man going to a funeral of a life long friend, the nurse missing a flight on a well earned holiday..

Not sure they are doing a great way to publicise their cause.. also.. I don't want insolation in my house. It's too fucking hot already..

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

There are better ways to win hearts and minds and garner public support for your cause. This is a text-book example of how NOT to do it.

+ You can vote for parties which align with your principles

+ You can start your own party, if none exist

+ You can get your fellow supporters to canvass the media. Gain air-time and print.

+ You can use social media

+ You can write to your MP

+ Etc, Etc.

All legal and perfectly valid options.

Their FB Page :

801 people like this

1,009 people follow this

Clearly need to up their social media engagement, get organised, get professional and on the right side of democratic protest.

Alienating the very people you want to support you never worked well, historically.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"There are better ways to win hearts and minds and garner public support for your cause. This is a text-book example of how NOT to do it.

+ You can vote for parties which align with your principles

+ You can start your own party, if none exist

+ You can get your fellow supporters to canvass the media. Gain air-time and print.

+ You can use social media

+ You can write to your MP

+ Etc, Etc.

All legal and perfectly valid options.

Their FB Page :

801 people like this

1,009 people follow this

Clearly need to up their social media engagement, get organised, get professional and on the right side of democratic protest.

Alienating the very people you want to support you never worked well, historically.

The "Leader" of this group is an MP.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

These buggers are fools

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Hope they reflect and fade away

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

Saw them today blocking M25. Probably best if the police didn’t attend , leaving them at the hands of frustrated motorists.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

Wonder if they have thought about people in tower blocks that have had there homes insulated and are now worth less as it all hase to come off and be replaced.

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By *eirdscienceMan
over a year ago

Postwick

Ironically there probably was a lorry load of insulation stuck in the traffic jam that didn't get delivered or fitted today so they actually added to the greenhouse effect by blocking the M25

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do they not think of the money they waste by doing this. Police attending, arresting and all other things it causes costs money. Money that could of been spent on insulation if they protested in a more civil manner.

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By *adyBugsWoman
over a year ago

cognito

But I don’t understand who they think is going to take action if they stop the traffic on the motorway? I’m pretty sure Boris isn’t sat at lunchtime nibbling his tuna sweetcorn sandwich saying he’d been held up for hours on the Motorway on the way to work this morning.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Would be better if they went round and actually fitted it rather than volunteering others to do it. That stuff gets everywhere.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

They where doing it last week as well it's mad and there was a crash last week in the que and thay should foot the bill and then some.

We are all accountable for what we do and they should be find for every delay they cause.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you sit it the middle of a road and get run over, it’s your own fault, so..........

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By *kaythen07Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Bet they all drove there

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I’m sure their sympathy will go a long way to helping that poor person regain their health.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not that I wish harm on anyone, but if one of them has a medical emergency or a driver they've held up, the ambulance won't be able to get through. I get the feeling that nothing significant will be done about it until this happens.

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By *inkyeroticaCouple
over a year ago

Ampthill

The thing with a protest such as this is it brings a cause to the public’s attention. Must admit, prior to this I wasn’t aware that their cause was such a major issue.

But here’s the real thing not to lose sight of. Clamp down on our right to protest and we start to loose a very significant aspect of our democracy and freedom , which have been eroded in recent years. That way, when the cause you believe in needs protesting you may still be able to do so.

Very often, protesters and campaigners push the law to its limits, or even break it, to get action or bring something to public attention. As a recent example, the MP expenses scandal was leaked by someone breaking the law to do so.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

"Not that I wish harm on anyone, but if one of them has a medical emergency or a driver they've held up, the ambulance won't be able to get through. I get the feeling that nothing significant will be done about it until this happens."

There was a tragic story in the paper about a man taking his mother to hospital because she'd had a stroke at home. They were massively delayed due to the protests and she is now permanently disabled, had she been admitted to the hospital without the delay she would have made a full recovery.

Its reasons like this why protestors should consider the effects of their actions and who they are inconveniencing.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I lived in a new 4-bed detached for 5 years and couldn’t believe how much difference modern insulation and new building technology makes. House would be warm within minutes of putting the heating on in the middle of winter and even winter bills were tiny. The government has failed to solve the housing supply, is responsible for fuel poverty and is short sighted on the environment, yet most people don’t seem to give a fuck, they got their brexit and sold out future generations , shame on them, selfish cunts.

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By *inkyeroticaCouple
over a year ago

Ampthill

"I lived in a new 4-bed detached for 5 years and couldn’t believe how much difference modern insulation and new building technology makes. House would be warm within minutes of putting the heating on in the middle of winter and even winter bills were tiny. The government has failed to solve the housing supply, is responsible for fuel poverty and is short sighted on the environment, yet most people don’t seem to give a fuck, they got their brexit and sold out future generations , shame on them, selfish cunts."

I salute you sir, and echo your fine sentiments!

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By *ld StrumpetWoman
over a year ago

Telford

Ohhh the irony

The next time I call people up for there loft check or to offer loft insulation appointments I do hope the rate of “oh fuck off” drops for me lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing is we are working towards retrofitting older houses with insulation.

I know because this is my job, I do retrofit surveys for people applying for insulation through the ECO scheme. At the moment this is generally only available for those on lower incomes or claiming benefits.

Most of this funding comes from the energy firms.

The govt do need to put money in a pot to enable the retrofit to be rolled out to more households (I expect this to be announced after COP26) but even with funding, due to the sheer volume of older properties it will take years to achieve this.

These protesters are protesting about something which is already happening, so it’s totally pointless & just ends up enraging the general public & potentially with devastating consequences for some people caught up in it!

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I ripped out my loft insulation because it's too fucking hot in the summer...

Don't pretend you represent everyone.. insinuation rebellion...

The right to protest is the right to peaceful protest..

Somebody will be killed soon.. it's not a safe space to protest

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

"its a nice idea that everybodys houses should be fully insulated to save the environment but who's going to pay for it all?"

apparently enough money was found down the back of the sofa, but it seems that is to be blown on buying a submarine or two

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its reasons like this why protestors should consider the effects of their actions and who they are inconveniencing."

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Proper old flounce this morning on GMB.

Hilarious.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"The thing is we are working towards retrofitting older houses with insulation.

Most of this funding comes from the energy firms.

Surely every house has been insulated by now? I remember getting a grant for this back in the 80’s.

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By *uncherUKMan
over a year ago

Woodford

Not probably there was! Reported on LBC, a guy was driving his load to carry out insulation work!

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

A sit down protest is hardly a rebellion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now there's a high court injunction granted which means they may be sent to prison for putting people's lives at risk. Lock them up!

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

If the police and TV cameras didn’t attend, it would soon be sorted out.

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By *hristopherd999Man
over a year ago

Brentwood

Are they entitled to behave this way."

No they are not! They should be dragged away by teir hair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are they entitled to behave this way.

No they are not! They should be dragged away by teir hair"

Absolutely! I thought it was a criminal offence to trespass on the motorway.

My understanding is there is now an injunction in place effective from this afternoon which means if the protesters breach this they face imprisonment, about time too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm surprised these protestors are allowed time off work to attend these demonstrations, perhaps they use their holiday entitlements.

I mean, they surely can't be unemployed & claiming benefits or anything if they're fit enough to block motorways and dig tunnels and climb up trees and stuff.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

non violent direct action to bring awareness of an issue caused by the government that affects the whole country in a negative and damaging way ... can't see the problem there to be fair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"non violent direct action to bring awareness of an issue caused by the government that affects the whole country in a negative and damaging way ... can't see the problem there to be fair

Really! You can't an issue with walking on to a motorway and sitting down!

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By *iltopbearMan
over a year ago

Norfolk

Well its all over now, Police have been granted power of arrest if anymore of the protesters block the roads.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Was this true?

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By *iltopbearMan
over a year ago

Norfolk

"Was this true?

Was on the lunchtime news today.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Was this true?

Was on the lunchtime news today."

I don’t follow the news. It seems to just get crazier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well its all over now, Police have been granted power of arrest if anymore of the protesters block the roads."

They have always had power of arrest.

Trespass on the motorway is illegal and many of the protesters have been arrested.

What the induction does is make it an imprisonment offence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well its all over now, Police have been granted power of arrest if anymore of the protesters block the roads.

They have always had power of arrest.

Trespass on the motorway is illegal and many of the protesters have been arrested.

What the induction does is make it an imprisonment offence. "

*injunction

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

These buggers don't insulate their own houses according to Breakfast TV..

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

i guess these new aukus submarines is money well spent on keeping the people toasty this winter as the gas runs out.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"These buggers don't insulate their own houses according to Breakfast TV..

I bet they leave their windows open and the thermostat up at 20 too... Oh its true it was on breakfast TV.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"These buggers don't insulate their own houses according to Breakfast TV..

I bet they leave their windows open and the thermostat up at 20 too... Oh its true it was on breakfast TV. "

There was a guy on the radio yesterday who was from this protest movement and he said he has log burners!

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"These buggers don't insulate their own houses according to Breakfast TV..

I bet they leave their windows open and the thermostat up at 20 too... Oh its true it was on breakfast TV. "

Well he scattered ...

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"These buggers don't insulate their own houses according to Breakfast TV..

I bet they leave their windows open and the thermostat up at 20 too... Oh its true it was on breakfast TV.

There was a guy on the radio yesterday who was from this protest movement and he said he has log burners!"

Log burners ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"non violent direct action to bring awareness of an issue caused by the government that affects the whole country in a negative and damaging way ... can't see the problem there to be fair

Seriously!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1.They will not go after the big corporations that their organisers used to work for.

2.You should check where they get their funding from.

3.Their evidence of the issue is false.

4.They deal in rituals taken from paganism which makes them a quasi religious cult.

5.As in all cults they rule by fear..not a word against them.

6.They are desirous of depopulation.

7.You personally (to them) are the enemy of ALL mankind

8. They are untouched by the Police which makes them government bed-fellows..they have the same agendas.

9.Their agenda tallies with that of the elite as it is not the elite that is being asked to bear the burden it will be you.

11. Like other recent movements their intention is to gag you.

12. There have been tactics afoot for a while now to silence your voices..and to make you powerless.

13. It is the big corporations that pollute the environment.

14.All the little man has done is buy the goods they have on sale..the goods they have pushed for decades through advertising.

15. Let them adjust the materials they put in the only products that are generally out there to buy.

16. Will they do that?

17. NO

18. SO WHY SHOULD YOU DANCE AROUND LIKE A BUNCH OF PAGANS?

19. Understand the way in which you are being played.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"1.They will not go after the big corporations that their organisers used to work for.

2.You should check where they get their funding from.

3.Their evidence of the issue is false.

4.They deal in rituals taken from paganism which makes them a quasi religious cult.

5.As in all cults they rule by fear..not a word against them.

6.They are desirous of depopulation.

7.You personally (to them) are the enemy of ALL mankind

8. They are untouched by the Police which makes them government bed-fellows..they have the same agendas.

9.Their agenda tallies with that of the elite as it is not the elite that is being asked to bear the burden it will be you.

11. Like other recent movements their intention is to gag you.

12. There have been tactics afoot for a while now to silence your voices..and to make you powerless.

13. It is the big corporations that pollute the environment.

14.All the little man has done is buy the goods they have on sale..the goods they have pushed for decades through advertising.

15. Let them adjust the materials they put in the only products that are generally out there to buy.

16. Will they do that?

17. NO

18. SO WHY SHOULD YOU DANCE AROUND LIKE A BUNCH OF PAGANS?

19. Understand the way in which you are being played."
20. I add they are a genocidal quasi religious death cult and that is their endgame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"1.They will not go after the big corporations that their organisers used to work for.

2.You should check where they get their funding from.

3.Their evidence of the issue is false.

4.They deal in rituals taken from paganism which makes them a quasi religious cult.

5.As in all cults they rule by fear..not a word against them.

6.They are desirous of depopulation.

7.You personally (to them) are the enemy of ALL mankind

8. They are untouched by the Police which makes them government bed-fellows..they have the same agendas.

9.Their agenda tallies with that of the elite as it is not the elite that is being asked to bear the burden it will be you.

11. Like other recent movements their intention is to gag you.

12. There have been tactics afoot for a while now to silence your voices..and to make you powerless.

13. It is the big corporations that pollute the environment.

14.All the little man has done is buy the goods they have on sale..the goods they have pushed for decades through advertising.

15. Let them adjust the materials they put in the only products that are generally out there to buy.

16. Will they do that?

17. NO

18. SO WHY SHOULD YOU DANCE AROUND LIKE A BUNCH OF PAGANS?

19. Understand the way in which you are being played.20. I add they are a genocidal quasi religious death cult and that is their endgame."
21.I'm writing of Extinction Rebellion and these are an attempt to make THAT palatable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are better ways to win hearts and minds and garner public support for your cause. This is a text-book example of how NOT to do it.

+ You can vote for parties which align with your principles

+ You can start your own party, if none exist

+ You can get your fellow supporters to canvass the media. Gain air-time and print.

+ You can use social media

+ You can write to your MP

+ Etc, Etc.

All legal and perfectly valid options.

Their FB Page :

801 people like this

1,009 people follow this

Clearly need to up their social media engagement, get organised, get professional and on the right side of democratic protest.

Alienating the very people you want to support you never worked well, historically.

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The intention isn't to garner support IT IS to cause chaos so agendas that will not be to your liking can be pushed through in response to their activities.

Cause an issue to 'solve' an issue.

It is impossible to insulate EVERY house in Britain..just like it's impossible to get net zero carbon EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im sure the fuckers would scarper with a 30 ton Scania bearing down on them...

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Just put a thicker jumper on...

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Just put a thicker jumper on..."

How does your jumper get from the sheep to the loom to the shop to your drawer?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just put a thicker jumper on...

How does your jumper get from the sheep to the loom to the shop to your drawer? "

Via a donkey?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Organic material completely desiccated and shredded would make ideal insulation material. These people would actually make a real difference if they volunteered to become insulation themselves.

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By *ocktoplaywithMan
over a year ago

Derby

It’s all totally stupid and a causing grief on the public for no reward. Fair enough, I accept that possibly there could be an issue with pollution causing global warming. But our country is so small in comparison to the rest of the world that whatever we do is pretty much irrelevant. They’re building coal fired power stations in China and elsewhere. They’re firing them up again in France partly to supply us with electric! They’re still chopping down rain forests at an alarming rate. Air travel is still continuing as before. I could go on. It is a global issue, not a national one.

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over a year ago

"There are better ways to win hearts and minds and garner public support for your cause. This is a text-book example of how NOT to do it.

+ You can vote for parties which align with your principles

+ You can start your own party, if none exist

+ You can get your fellow supporters to canvass the media. Gain air-time and print.

+ You can use social media

+ You can write to your MP

+ Etc, Etc.

All legal and perfectly valid options.

Their FB Page :

801 people like this

1,009 people follow this

Clearly need to up their social media engagement, get organised, get professional and on the right side of democratic protest.

Alienating the very people you want to support you never worked well, historically.

The intention isn't to garner support IT IS to cause chaos so agendas that will not be to your liking can be pushed through in response to their activities.

Cause an issue to 'solve' an issue.

It is impossible to insulate EVERY house in Britain..just like it's impossible to get net zero carbon EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Once it was possible to get running water to every house in Britain. Later it was possible to power every house in Britain with electricity. Why is it not possible to insulate every house?

As for who's going to pay for it. Where's everyone's indignation at paying for The Queen, formal evenings in Banqueting House, subsidised food and drink in The House of Commons, government cars and second homes for wealthy cabinet ministers who are renting their original home anyway. Covering the shortfall because huge corporations only pay a fraction of their tax bill. Yet everyone turns on the poor if they dare ask for something to be paid for.

We learned last year that there is a magic money tree after all. You know why? We print our own money.

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By *iltopbearMan
over a year ago

Norfolk

"Just put a thicker jumper on...

How does your jumper get from the sheep to the loom to the shop to your drawer? "

With the giant cat/fox hybrids that roam around the country....

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over a year ago

"There are better ways to win hearts and minds and garner public support for your cause. This is a text-book example of how NOT to do it.

+ You can vote for parties which align with your principles

+ You can start your own party, if none exist

+ You can get your fellow supporters to canvass the media. Gain air-time and print.

+ You can use social media

+ You can write to your MP

+ Etc, Etc.

All legal and perfectly valid options.

Their FB Page :

801 people like this

1,009 people follow this

Clearly need to up their social media engagement, get organised, get professional and on the right side of democratic protest.

Alienating the very people you want to support you never worked well, historically.

The intention isn't to garner support IT IS to cause chaos so agendas that will not be to your liking can be pushed through in response to their activities.

Cause an issue to 'solve' an issue.

It is impossible to insulate EVERY house in Britain..just like it's impossible to get net zero carbon EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once it was possible to get running water to every house in Britain. Later it was possible to power every house in Britain with electricity. Why is it not possible to insulate every house?

We learned last year that there is a magic money tree after all. You know why? We print our own money."

Will those you mentioned as being paid for give any of that up?

So it would be on the people to personally step away from ignorance about such things..and to gain knowledge about how to counteract it.

It is not their intent to print money to put in your pocket thus making us all 'equal'.

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over a year ago

"Im sure the fuckers would scarper with a 30 ton Scania bearing down on them..."

That's going to happen if they carry on. They will run out, the driver won't see them in time and it will be carnage.

The driver will get blamed even though they shouldn't have been running around in front of traffic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are better ways to win hearts and minds and garner public support for your cause. This is a text-book example of how NOT to do it.

+ You can vote for parties which align with your principles

+ You can start your own party, if none exist

+ You can get your fellow supporters to canvass the media. Gain air-time and print.

+ You can use social media

+ You can write to your MP

+ Etc, Etc.

All legal and perfectly valid options.

Their FB Page :

801 people like this

1,009 people follow this

Clearly need to up their social media engagement, get organised, get professional and on the right side of democratic protest.

Alienating the very people you want to support you never worked well, historically.

The intention isn't to garner support IT IS to cause chaos so agendas that will not be to your liking can be pushed through in response to their activities.

Cause an issue to 'solve' an issue.

It is impossible to insulate EVERY house in Britain..just like it's impossible to get net zero carbon EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

And which conspiracy theories do you currently subscribe to??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are they entitled to behave this way."

It’s nearly October?

Fuck it I love been part of a any splinter group I’m a gluten for mayhem

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over a year ago

"There are better ways to win hearts and minds and garner public support for your cause. This is a text-book example of how NOT to do it.

+ You can vote for parties which align with your principles

+ You can start your own party, if none exist

+ You can get your fellow supporters to canvass the media. Gain air-time and print.

+ You can use social media

+ You can write to your MP

+ Etc, Etc.

All legal and perfectly valid options.

Their FB Page :

801 people like this

1,009 people follow this

Clearly need to up their social media engagement, get organised, get professional and on the right side of democratic protest.

Alienating the very people you want to support you never worked well, historically.

The intention isn't to garner support IT IS to cause chaos so agendas that will not be to your liking can be pushed through in response to their activities.

Cause an issue to 'solve' an issue.

It is impossible to insulate EVERY house in Britain..just like it's impossible to get net zero carbon EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once it was possible to get running water to every house in Britain. Later it was possible to power every house in Britain with electricity. Why is it not possible to insulate every house?

We learned last year that there is a magic money tree after all. You know why? We print our own money.

Will those you mentioned as being paid for give any of that up?

So it would be on the people to personally step away from ignorance about such things..and to gain knowledge about how to counteract it.

It is not their intent to print money to put in your pocket thus making us all 'equal'."

It's not like there's a limited amount. We've been pouring trillions into the financial system, quantitive easing, for many years.

It isn't a case of there isn't enough money. It's a case of "we don't want to pay for that". You're not allowed sonething for nothing unless you're part of the establishment, then you're deemed "entitled" to something for nothing.

Anyway, there are other options. Government loans paid in instalments added to your quarterly bill as part of a nationalised power industry, that would work. Privatisation has proven to have failed. Let's use the profits to buy gas when it's cheap and store it for eventualities like the one we're in now instead of paying shareholder dividends.

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over a year ago

Anyone ever see that cartoon where there's a huge comet fireballing across the sky and there's a T Rex looking up at it saying "Oh no! The economy!"

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Anyone ever see that cartoon where there's a huge comet fireballing across the sky and there's a T Rex looking up at it saying "Oh no! The economy!""

Suspect that is a bit too nuanced

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over a year ago

"Anyone ever see that cartoon where there's a huge comet fireballing across the sky and there's a T Rex looking up at it saying "Oh no! The economy!"

Suspect that is a bit too nuanced "

You understood it.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Anyone ever see that cartoon where there's a huge comet fireballing across the sky and there's a T Rex looking up at it saying "Oh no! The economy!"

Suspect that is a bit too nuanced

You understood it.

Well if we can't laugh while hurtling toward the abyss what can we do..? (I know fuck and suck eachother senseless)

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over a year ago

"Anyone ever see that cartoon where there's a huge comet fireballing across the sky and there's a T Rex looking up at it saying "Oh no! The economy!""

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By *iss KissWoman
over a year ago

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"non violent direct action to bring awareness of an issue caused by the government that affects the whole country in a negative and damaging way ... can't see the problem there to be fair

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