FabSwingers.com forum: White knights

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I've seen in several threads people saying things like "I don't want to be seen as a white knight, but..."

So, I'm curious - why is it viewed as bad to be a white knight? Isn't it good to defend/support someone if you see them being picked on?

Perhaps I'm just not understanding! (Very possible!)

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they really mean they don't want to come across as a suck up

Chivalry can work real well, though it's down to the individual on whether it's seen as chivalry or misogyny

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing "

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?"

Yeah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?"

I believe that's how it is understood. The problem being how to tell the difference between men who comment to win favour and those who comment because they think a post is wrong or offensive. Not always easy in an online context.

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

I'm an older gentleman I stand up for women, without ever expecting anything in return. But in this modern age a lot of women are able to look after them selves, and I applaud them for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone is being nasty to someone man or woman I would step in and want nothing in return it's a morals thing for me.

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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago

wirral

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

Yeah "

I'd have to agree this is the best way to describe it.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Should probably clarify for some of the guys that missed a vital point

It’s not defending woman in the hope of getting something, that’s part of it.

It’s defending women blindly, whether they are in the wrong or not, that makes a white knight.

Perfect example is one we’ve all seen. In the lib and some girl throws her drink at a guy, starts hitting him, slapping him, calling him names. Everyone’s fine with that. He pushes her away and suddenly 3 guys jump on him with the “you can’t ever touch a lady” mentality

They’re white knights, because she was entirely in the wrong, but they jumped to her rescue anyways, and are probably hoping it’ll put them in her good books and she might take them home later that night.

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

Yeah "

No, it’s a lazy comment to try a disparage men who sometimes stick up for women. It’s a comment used to try and gain an advantage over other men.

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing "

I've had this live. Weird as I only wanted to dance after having a long giggly conversation earlier. Bloke went mental. In hindsight I wished I'd alerted the bouncers.

I prefer the term Silverback?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I don't think white knighting is specifically a male thing.

A man and a woman can post almost identical scenarios in which they've been treated badly by the opposite sex. The woman will get largely supportive responses from all genders telling her it's the man's fault

The man will get largely unsupportive responses telling him it's his fault.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

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By *oozleMan
over a year ago

high wycombe

First time I have heard the term tbh, I thought you were talking chess to start with!. If someone hasn’t done anything wrong and is being victimised or mistreated, then we should all be helping out and sticking up for them. However, if someone has done something by wrong, then they should be shown the errors of the their ways, not stood up for.

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By *onb21Woman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

Yeah

No, it’s a lazy comment to try a disparage men who sometimes stick up for women. It’s a comment used to try and gain an advantage over other men."

I agree, it often derives from this. Men slag off other men all the time.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I personally don't mind it at all if someone stands up for me. I don't take it to mean I can't stand up for myself. I consider it more that they're standing next to me in support.

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By *vriderMan
over a year ago

Chester

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing "

I thought that was a simp?!?

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By *oozleMan
over a year ago

high wycombe

Simp is someone who goes out their way to please everyone and avoid confrontation I believe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's a bad thing. What's wrong with being a decent human being?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with the op....

What was the question?

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By *oozleMan
over a year ago

high wycombe

"I don't think it's a bad thing. What's wrong with being a decent human being? "

Absolutely nothing, but you can’t please everyone in life, that’s just the way it is.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I agree with the op....

What was the question?"

Lol I just got this

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By *imbobaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

Yeah "

No. For me it’s not sucking up to get sex. It’s doing the right thing be it for a woman or man.

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

Yeah

No. For me it’s not sucking up to get sex. It’s doing the right thing be it for a woman or man. "

You forgot the important part....

"And being ridiculed for it"

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By *ocusMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

Yeah "

No. White Knight most recently came to prominence during Gamergate (abuse campaigns carried out under the pretence of caring about journalism in video games). Anyone who disagreed with people hurling abuse, trolling etc. was called a white knight in order to derail opposition. i.e. accuse someone of having an ulterior motive rather than simply objecting to the abuse of someone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

I also believe that a white knight will come charging in to defend a woman even when they really don’t need defending

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By *ngandjamesCouple
over a year ago

derby

(James) I would help anyone in trouble or being attacked as when I was at school a long time ago lol I was bullied now I am older and a lot bigger and stronger(6ft 2 inches and 20 stone )I can help others that needs it !!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

I also believe that a white knight will come charging in to defend a woman even when they really don’t need defending"

But I don't mind that! I don't "need" defending, but it's lovely when someone steps up by my side and does it anyway.

I guess I'm just not offended by it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing "

yep this! its men that defend women no matter what used as above but also to put themselves on a pedestal above other men in a look at how nice i am compared to the other men on here virtue signalling kind of way

all with the aim of getting into their pants haha

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Of course there are some men who will behave in that way, but some people cry "white knight!" whenever a man agrees with a woman, as if it's impossible for men to do that without having an ulterior motive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

Yeah

No. For me it’s not sucking up to get sex. It’s doing the right thing be it for a woman or man. "

is that a white knight or just being decent??

i have always used white knighting in a different way to this as described above gallantly defending the honor of a women who is usually attractive - doesnt happen so much to people they dont fancy haha and most usually against any man that might have a different opinion to them by belittling or slating the male opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder how often a man has got a BJ out of posting a supportive comment on Forum ? I'd guess......never, and it's also pretty insulting to women to suggest that's all it takes to have sex with them.

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Very true, it is possible that he actually agrees with her!

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

"I wonder how often a man has got a BJ out of posting a supportive comment on Forum ? I'd guess......never, and it's also pretty insulting to women to suggest that's all it takes to have sex with them.

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

Every supportive comment I get I note down and arrange to give a sucking off to the giver at out earliest convenience.

Isn't that what all the people do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

Every supportive comment I get I note down and arrange to give a sucking off to the giver at out earliest convenience.

Isn't that what all the people do?

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I agree that's the done thing

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

Every supportive comment I get I note down and arrange to give a sucking off to the giver at out earliest convenience.

Isn't that what all the people do?

I agree that's the done thing

Noted. Get your diary out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

Every supportive comment I get I note down and arrange to give a sucking off to the giver at out earliest convenience.

Isn't that what all the people do?

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

I think white knighting is thrown around probably a bit too oft - let's be honest, we've all seen a man come to a woman's defence in the hope it gets him noticed/he's putting his willy in her but it's like the be kind mantra. Overused and not very accurate.

I think it can be good to support those who you see being picked on but also... sometimes it can become unpleasant. And the bias because you like that person/want to biblically know them clouds sensibilities.

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

Every supportive comment I get I note down and arrange to give a sucking off to the giver at out earliest convenience.

Isn't that what all the people do?

You've never been supportive yet

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

In my experience, accusations of “white knighting” exclusively come from misogynists trying to derail the conversation when faced with male allies. It’s pretty pathetic really. Safe to block anyone who trots it out.

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By *ensual -lover69Man
over a year ago

Blackburn

"I've seen in several threads people saying things like "I don't want to be seen as a white knight, but..."

So, I'm curious - why is it viewed as bad to be a white knight? Isn't it good to defend/support someone if you see them being picked on?

Perhaps I'm just not understanding! (Very possible!)

Personally, I cannot stand by and watch ANYONE be bullied, I think it stems from being bullied at school.

So call me what you like but not to early lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

Every supportive comment I get I note down and arrange to give a sucking off to the giver at out earliest convenience.

Isn't that what all the people do?

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

The best example I've seen is when a man came to a womans defence in a forum argument.

The argument continued which by the way was with another woman and suddenly the same guy was defending the other woman.

As the thread continued he jumped back and forth between each woman until someone else realised that both women had very similar profile pics and asked him if he realised what he was doing?

He hadn't and admitted he was defending the woman with the great tits because she was hot but didn't realise there were two hot women with great tits arguing with each other.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The best example I've seen is when a man came to a womans defence in a forum argument.

The argument continued which by the way was with another woman and suddenly the same guy was defending the other woman.

As the thread continued he jumped back and forth between each woman until someone else realised that both women had very similar profile pics and asked him if he realised what he was doing?

He hadn't and admitted he was defending the woman with the great tits because she was hot but didn't realise there were two hot women with great tits arguing with each other. "

Lol boobs are powerful things it seems!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

Every supportive comment I get I note down and arrange to give a sucking off to the giver at out earliest convenience.

Isn't that what all the people do?

I fully support this comment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

White Knights with popcorn are the best

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

Now excuse me while I feed my nag and put my white robes on a hot wash.

Every supportive comment I get I note down and arrange to give a sucking off to the giver at out earliest convenience.

Isn't that what all the people do?

I fully support this comment

So supportive

Diary check?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Just another silly phrase i’d never heard until fab. I don’t think it’s just men. Certain people agree/defend certain people all the time no matter the gender or whether they agree or not.

The phrase is thrown around willy nilly though.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

I've been known to stand up for a woman.

Well part of me has at least.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I've been known to stand up for a woman.

Well part of me has at least.

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By *heGateKeeperMan
over a year ago

Stratford

I often step in without much thought and defend when necessary. Sometimes I address it privately rather than publically.

‘She won’t shag you mate’ is a common (and boring) response to anyone who sticks their head above the parapet to defend a female online

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

If they are only being supportive to try to curry favour, or get some sex out of it then it isn't a good thing to do. Says I.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If someone is being nasty to someone man or woman I would step in and want nothing in return it's a morals thing for me. "

Exactly. Nothing 'White Knight' about it

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

It'sa sniffy term like"snowflake" that I'm not keen on.

Says more about the user than the person they're using about usually .

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By *lasphemouscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

"White knights are men that specifically stick up for women no matter what they’ve done in an attempt to get in their good books so they can potentially get sex

So yeah I’d say it’s a bad thing

Oh, perhaps I've misunderstood the term then. Is that how everyone uses the term?

I also believe that a white knight will come charging in to defend a woman even when they really don’t need defending"

This is my understanding of it too, unwanted help from a guy because the little lady needs a man to sort the situation mentality.. white knights are awful... but gentleman that will defend or support a woman in need are a totally different thing and very welcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plenty more white knighting in evidence on the forums the past couple of days.

It's cringey as fuck tbh.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

A white knight is a sycophant. Will challenge a reasonable point of view to be seen favourably by an OP who maybe was unreasonable in an argument.

By the way OP I always agree with your posts and you’re nice and near to me….

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The best example I've seen is when a man came to a womans defence in a forum argument.

The argument continued which by the way was with another woman and suddenly the same guy was defending the other woman.

As the thread continued he jumped back and forth between each woman until someone else realised that both women had very similar profile pics and asked him if he realised what he was doing?

He hadn't and admitted he was defending the woman with the great tits because she was hot but didn't realise there were two hot women with great tits arguing with each other. "

Sounds like a Friday night in spoons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm an older gentleman I stand up for women, without ever expecting anything in return. But in this modern age a lot of women are able to look after them selves, and I applaud them for it"

Not sure where to begin with this one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its another one of those belittling phrases thrown about.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

"Its another one of those belittling phrases thrown about.

A good description for shifty behaviour I’d say.

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By *TK421-Man
over a year ago

Cheltenham

It's supposedly a belittling phrase designed to ignore the point that someone is being a pillock in the first place and needed to be set straight.

Often used by those in the wrong with no rational counter point and unwilling/unable to change. Or wanting to provoke a response (Trolls).

Like most of these phrases used, boomers, gammons, snowflakes, lefty's etc. Just a throw away passive aggressive thing.

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By *bostCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

This is the term we got mixed up with yesterday with the White Stag thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its another one of those belittling phrases thrown about.

This

There should be no need for “white knights” but more and more people are finding/seeking out comments to create faux offence and aggro when it is usually an interesting or light hearted post. In one way it’s quite amusing, in another it’s quite sad.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Plenty more white knighting in evidence on the forums the past couple of days.

It's cringey as fuck tbh.

Thus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ohhhhh. Well I’d thought it was being a fake rescuer …

A man wrote to us saying someone had stolen our pics and he was reporting it for us etc etc - I chatted to him a bit through it (through contacting fab etc … and because I’d blocked the account using them he was keeping me updated with yes yes they’ve been kicked off) … thennnnn when it was sorted (maybe, unless it was him that made the account in the first place?

) he started with so ya fancy a fuck then

- I told a friend on here and she said a white night is someone who sets up a fake problem so he can “save” you from it

… hope that makes sense? x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's another phrase (see also Karen thread) that once had quite a specific meaning and is now used to shoot down many people. Especially a guy who disagrees with a guy but agrees with a gal. Just another as hom because some people want to win rather than understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Now we are calling men names when they are acting kindly towards women. What has the world come to. It’s crazy.

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By *he_Wite_NiteMan
over a year ago

Usually Dundee and around

Don't all terms have many meanings, and the problem is whether those using them have the same understanding of the meaning...

I do hope I am not judged by my user name, it was originally selected based on a song, chivalry and a love of chess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Now we are calling men names when they are acting kindly towards women. What has the world come to. It’s crazy."

There's acting kindly and then there's brown nosing to try and get your dick wet. I've been brought up with morals and I'm extremely respectful towards women. However, I've also got a great bullshit detector and I'm pretty blunt when it comes to calling people out.

The forums are horrendous for cliques/arse licking etc and it's sad to see how much fakery goes on. The problem is so many people are scared to call it as they don't want to feel ostracised. Personally I don't care as I've got a decent bunch of friends away from Fab so I ain't here to win a popularity contest.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I've seen in several threads people saying things like "I don't want to be seen as a white knight, but..."

So, I'm curious - why is it viewed as bad to be a white knight? Isn't it good to defend/support someone if you see them being picked on?

Perhaps I'm just not understanding! (Very possible!)

I think the difference is when it’s clearly not genuine concern and just trying to get into someone’s pants.

I don’t know the term but they are often the same people where there’s a preference thread about females, they like everything

Q: What’s you’re favourite STI? A: All STI’s are beautiful etc

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By *ithintemptationsCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

white knight-ism posting is basically an excuse to pop a business card on a notice board.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Now we are calling men names when they are acting kindly towards women. What has the world come to. It’s crazy.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

They are so easy to spot. There are a few "regulars"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Now we are calling men names when they are acting kindly towards women. What has the world come to. It’s crazy.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

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how do you know people are scared of not coming forward? Hard thing to prove! It's interesting this thread started from someone observing guys are almost afraid to come forward and agree with someone!

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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago

wirral

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Now we are calling men names when they are acting kindly towards women. What has the world come to. It’s crazy.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

I agree with everything you just said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Now we are calling men names when they are acting kindly towards women. What has the world come to. It’s crazy.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

how do you know people are scared of not coming forward? Hard thing to prove! It's interesting this thread started from someone observing guys are almost afraid to come forward and agree with someone! "

I've had a few people message me personally in the past saying they agree with something I've said but wouldn't dare say it themselves because they feel they may get shot down for it as it disagrees with some of the more popular/outspoken posters.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I don't want to be a white Knight but.... If there's so much misunderstanding, misuse, abuse, miscommunication with it... Maybe use other words.?or as it is used as an insult... Perhaps not say anything at all if you have nothing nice to say?

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By *imbobaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

What many folk here are describing a white knight as is a “sycophant”. That’s not what the definition of a white knight is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What many folk here are describing a white knight as is a “sycophant”. That’s not what the definition of a white knight is. "

Fair do's.... yeah I think you're right having re-read the definition of both. So what I said above is aimed at sycophants.

Obviously the term "White Knight" has been incorrectly re-purposed over the years.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"What many folk here are describing a white knight as is a “sycophant”. That’s not what the definition of a white knight is. "

You’re correct…. I always thought white knight was a negative thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""White Knight" gets thrown around far too often.

Now we are calling men names when they are acting kindly towards women. What has the world come to. It’s crazy.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

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fair enough. Shot down feels different to ostracised. But imo thide are in a similar place to white knights if the fear is that it may stop them from getting their dick wet. It's just more covert.

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