FabSwingers.com forum: Ronaldo,Messi or Pele. ....The Best

By *ryan... OP Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

Or even George Best...

For me .. Cristiano Ronaldo

two late goals again tonight..

the best in the world ever

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By *usman 199Man
over a year ago

Stockport

George Best end of

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

George Best, the clue is in the name.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

Pele and Bobby Moore

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Best

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jinky johnstone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maradonna, easily.

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By *lenderfoxMan
over a year ago

Leeds

It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

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By *ooBulMan
over a year ago

Missin’ Yo’ Kissin’

Ferenc Puskás?

Sir Stanley Mathews - retired at 50? For longevity it's got to be him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eusebio.pele.johan cruyff.franz beckenbauer.johnny rep.oleg blokhin.gunter netzer and sergio echigo.

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Now place him in today's game with lighter footballs, better pitches, protection from referees. Had he joined Manchester United during Fergie's tenure he would have been shielded from the limelight and his partying possibly curbed.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

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By *oncupiscent_dreamMan
over a year ago

City

Messi, and Messi gonna win the world cup

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Messi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maradona!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The original Ronaldo was epic. Similar ish story to Best in some ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maradonna, easily."
Great minds....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maradona!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

D10S

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Ronaldo without doubt , highest international goal scorer off all time , within touching distance of being the all time highest goal scorer , played in 3 top leagues, no one else is anywhere near him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pele hands down.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His star only shone bright for a few years but Kaka mesmerized me growing up. The guy glided across the pitch so effortlessly and had insane acceleration.

If only injuries hadn't gotten to him

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"The original Ronaldo was epic. Similar ish story to Best in some ways. "

He was the best player I ever watched live. Before those knee injuries he was something else.

Even after the injuries he was great but my god what a player.

He also provided the best redemption story in world football

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maradona!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
the drug taker?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not in the slightest biased, Georgie boy.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

Can’t compare through the generations such a changed game. Taking the modern era Ronaldo over Messi for me.

From when I first started watching footie, Maradona

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

Pele… not even a debate for me… different class to all that have been since

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

George Best is the greatest footballer ever. A footballing genius without a doubt. Non of the above mentioned would be fit to lace his boots.

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By *ittlechick77Couple
over a year ago

Staines

George Best the most naturally gifed football of all time and in a period where football were heavy, boots had leather studs and tackles were tackles and he avoided most of them.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or. "

But would he have the fitness needed for the modern game ?

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

I appreciate everyone’s point of view but unless you said Pele you are all wrong

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By *ir SupremacyMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Vinnie Jones x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

But would he have the fitness needed for the modern game ? "

I think that question should be aimed at a few Miss Worlds!

In today’s game Best would be untouchable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If George was good enough for the only other football God Pele he's good enough for me.

Ronaldo, Messi, Maradona all played when the game decided to be kiss chase except you fall over instead of being kissed.

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

But would he have the fitness needed for the modern game ? "

Yes because he'd have all the modern coaching, nutritional science and sports science available to today's players.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I appreciate everyone’s point of view but unless you said Pele you are all wrong

Could Pele turn it on at Millwall in a milk cup game on a wet Wednesday in January..........?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

But would he have the fitness needed for the modern game ?

Yes because he'd have all the modern coaching, nutritional science and sports science available to today's players. "

If they could help him, stop him and his drinking.

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"If George was good enough for the only other football God Pele he's good enough for me.

Ronaldo, Messi, Maradona all played when the game decided to be kiss chase except you fall over instead of being kissed."

Georgie, Georgie, they call you the Belfast Boy

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By *lenderfoxMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or. "

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

But would he have the fitness needed for the modern game ?

Yes because he'd have all the modern coaching, nutritional science and sports science available to today's players.

If they could help him, stop him and his drinking. "

Agreed but his drinking and partying came because he was the first superstar footballer being chased by fans and the drinking was born of homesickness.

Modern players are better equipped to deal with the adulation he was not. There's a reason he was called el beatle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

But would he have the fitness needed for the modern game ?

Yes because he'd have all the modern coaching, nutritional science and sports science available to today's players.

If they could help him, stop him and his drinking. "

I guess in a way though, his drinking mirrored the culture of the time and of the game. Maybe he wouldn't have had drinking issues with how strict clubs are on being fit.

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!"

Agreed but one could hope he would have minders and a better support system in modern times.

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

"I appreciate everyone’s point of view but unless you said Pele you are all wrong

Could Pele turn it on at Millwall in a milk cup game on a wet Wednesday in January..........?"

Could anyone take on the German POW guards with a broken rib? Only Pele could do that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!"

Genius is the path that few tread those that do are prone to the same extremes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Messi.

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By *lenderfoxMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!

Agreed but one could hope he would have minders and a better support system in modern times. "

True, but there are plenty of Ravel Morrison's etc nowadays who for one reason or another don't make the most of their talent. I think it's tougher nowadays to make it to the top, talent alone isn't enough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I appreciate everyone’s point of view but unless you said Pele you are all wrong

Could Pele turn it on at Millwall in a milk cup game on a wet Wednesday in January..........?

Could anyone take on the German POW guards with a broken rib? Only Pele could do that

I watched that film the other day! Made me realise Stallone is not and actor when Mike Sumerbee and John Wark we’re nominated for Oscars

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!

Agreed but one could hope he would have minders and a better support system in modern times.

Ravel Morrison was influenced by his upbringing and in the end SAF gave up.

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"I appreciate everyone’s point of view but unless you said Pele you are all wrong

Could Pele turn it on at Millwall in a milk cup game on a wet Wednesday in January..........?

Could anyone take on the German POW guards with a broken rib? Only Pele could do that

He counted that goal in his tally

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

"I appreciate everyone’s point of view but unless you said Pele you are all wrong

Could Pele turn it on at Millwall in a milk cup game on a wet Wednesday in January..........?

Could anyone take on the German POW guards with a broken rib? Only Pele could do that

He counted that goal in his tally

And I may add he did it with half the Ipswich team and an actor in goals

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!

Agreed but one could hope he would have minders and a better support system in modern times.

You're not wrong, one only has to look at Cristiano Ronaldo. For all his talent it's his work ethic and determination that have taken him so far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!

Agreed but one could hope he would have minders and a better support system in modern times.

You're not wrong, one only has to look at Cristiano Ronaldo. For all his talent it's his work ethic and determination that have taken him so far. "
100pc. Rooney was seen as the more gifted player within OT.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

But would he have the fitness needed for the modern game ?

Yes because he'd have all the modern coaching, nutritional science and sports science available to today's players.

If they could help him, stop him and his drinking.

I guess in a way though, his drinking mirrored the culture of the time and of the game. Maybe he wouldn't have had drinking issues with how strict clubs are on being fit."

Yes it did but not all succumbed to it or whether he would have attained the fitness levels required today. It is something we will never know.

So many great players that were great in their time but would not necessarily be so in another generation of the sport.

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By *lenderfoxMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!

Agreed but one could hope he would have minders and a better support system in modern times.

You're not wrong, one only has to look at Cristiano Ronaldo. For all his talent it's his work ethic and determination that have taken him so far. "

Completely agree, he's also been lucky with injuries

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By *igmaMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Tubby Brewster

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"It's impossible to compare across generations, the game changes so much

I often say this but with a caveat. Take a look at someone like Best on YouTube, he's breathtaking.

Now remember he played in an era where with heavier footballs, rough pitches, defenders set out to injure him and he was a functioning alcoholic for some of his career.

Ronaldo and Messi wouldn't be getting near a Balon D'or.

There's many hypotheticals. He certainly wouldn't have played at the top level for long nowadays with his lifestyle!

Agreed but one could hope he would have minders and a better support system in modern times.

You're not wrong, one only has to look at Cristiano Ronaldo. For all his talent it's his work ethic and determination that have taken him so far. 100pc. Rooney was seen as the more gifted player within OT. "

He liked a crafty ciggie and a pint though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best was a sublime player but outside of UK and Ireland he's rarely mentioned as one of the absolute greats, not least because he effectively retired at 27. Players such as Garrincha or Zico or Di Stefano were at least Best's equal in talent but hardly mentioned in the UK.

The holy trinity is Maradonna, Messi and Pele, imho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Best was a sublime player but outside of UK and Ireland he's rarely mentioned as one of the absolute greats, not least because he effectively retired at 27. Players such as Garrincha or Zico or Di Stefano were at least Best's equal in talent but hardly mentioned in the UK.

The holy trinity is Maradonna, Messi and Pele, imho."

Again I agree on your three.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I appreciate everyone’s point of view but unless you said Pele you are all wrong

Could Pele turn it on at Millwall in a milk cup game on a wet Wednesday in January..........?

Could anyone take on the German POW guards with a broken rib? Only Pele could do that

He counted that goal in his tally

And I may add he did it with half the Ipswich team and an actor in goals

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Pele WAS tough...he really played in the kick ass days..when boots were boots!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The holy trinity is Maradonna, Messi and Pele, imho.

Again I agree on your three."

Thanks

I'd strongly recommend the film Maradonna which focusses on his peak years at Napoli. All the world's best players were in Italy then, the defenders were brilliant but brutal and Diego was still head and shoulders above the rest.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I don't know but only one has had The Queen ask for their autograph.

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By *rsmith21zMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Or even George Best...

For me .. Cristiano Ronaldo

two late goals again tonight..

the best in the world ever"

It's a different game to what it was when Pele, Best, Played football.

For me the best player there has ever been is Pele the skill, speed and awareness he had at that time in football was unbelievable.

But this is the thing about this question people will disagree with me.

In today's football for me it's Messi but I'm a Liverpool fan so that says it all

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

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The holy trinity is Maradonna, Messi and Pele, imho.

Again I agree on your three.

Thanks

Maradona was a genius player. He's the only player credited with such a big hand in winning a country a world cup. He took a highly unfancied Napoli to the scudetto.

What boggles my mind is that he basically partied from Monday to Thursday, trained hard on Friday and Saturday, played a match on Sunday and repeated.

Paolo Maldini said the two toughest opponents he faced were Maradona and Ronaldo (the Brazilian)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Heskey

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By *aughty_Smooth_OperatorMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

CR7 no questions asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ronaldinho xx

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By *1.2Man
over a year ago

London

Anything that isn’t Lord Bendtner is incorrect in my eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ronaldinho xx"
was a great player and deffo up there. He's one of my favourites just because he enjoyed himself.

Another lost to the party.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

The two players I have seen play are maradona and platini …..

I would argue that the french midfield circa 82- 86 may be the best midfield 4 of all time…

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Diego maradona I’ve seen no other player control a ball like he could bearing in mind the era he played in when you could tackle imagine how good he’d be now with the protection flair players get now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ronaldinho xxwas a great player and deffo up there. He's one of my favourites just because he enjoyed himself.

Another lost to the party.

Yeah his peak was short lived. But for 2-3 years at Barca he was unstoppable, and the most gifted controller of the ball I've ever seen, Messi being second. His entertainment value was beyond all others too, even to this day xx

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

"Ronaldinho xxwas a great player and deffo up there. He's one of my favourites just because he enjoyed himself.

Another lost to the party.

Agreed, I loved watching him play with that big grin. Now and again I watch highlight reels on YouTube of him and he was phenomenal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pele. No doubt

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"Diego maradona I’ve seen no other player control a ball like he could bearing in mind the era he played in when you could tackle imagine how good he’d be now with the protection flair players get now "
for a few years he was unplayable and I have said maradona has been the best. But CR and LM every minute that they play in every game is live or at least on camera

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

"Maradonna, easily."

Only one to compete with Ronaldo, but CR7 wins

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