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"I’m not fit enough yet " That is my actual excuse. I could probably use the walking machine for 5 minutes at a slow pace. I would probably walk into a gym now and cry because I can't do anything in them :"( | |||
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"I’m not fit enough yet That is my actual excuse. I could probably use the walking machine for 5 minutes at a slow pace. I would probably walk into a gym now and cry because I can't do anything in them :"(" 5 minutes is still 5 minutes, and then one day it'll be 6, 7, 8...(and so on and so forth)  xx | |||
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"I’m not fit enough yet That is my actual excuse. I could probably use the walking machine for 5 minutes at a slow pace. I would probably walk into a gym now and cry because I can't do anything in them :"(" No such thing as “can’t do anything”. Everyone’s level of ability dictates what they can do. Maybe it’s 5 mins walking. Maybe it’s 15 on a bike. Maybe you just walk around the shallow end of the pool for an hour. Everything matters and everything is worth it. Don’t be discouraged | |||
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"I’m not fit enough yet That is my actual excuse. I could probably use the walking machine for 5 minutes at a slow pace. I would probably walk into a gym now and cry because I can't do anything in them :"( No such thing as “can’t do anything”. Everyone’s level of ability dictates what they can do. Maybe it’s 5 mins walking. Maybe it’s 15 on a bike. Maybe you just walk around the shallow end of the pool for an hour. Everything matters and everything is worth it. Don’t be discouraged "I'll be going back to the swimming pool soon. I'll float around, thrashing my legs most of the time. I struggle to swim a width now. | |||
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Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was! | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was! "Late night session was it? Glad to hear you enjoyed it! (And that the report button works  )
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Late night session was it? Glad to hear you enjoyed it! (And that the report button works )
LvM"Haha yeah I'm hugely self conscious so I go as late as I can get away with when it's quiet (thank fuck for working from home letting me sleep til 8.45 ) | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Late night session was it? Glad to hear you enjoyed it! (And that the report button works )
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Haha yeah I'm hugely self conscious so I go as late as I can get away with when it's quiet (thank fuck for working from home letting me sleep til 8.45 )"go with someone if you worried amber. see. i told you not to worry about what others think, you keep pushing on, climb that mountain | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was! "Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better | |||
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"Car park is too busy....so i left
You can use my gym, as long as I can watch..."Deal 
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better "Not even cardio for a warm up?? | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better
Not even cardio for a warm up?? "You can do cardio to warm up, but honestly, you might even be better off doing a warmup on each resistance machine you use. For example, if I’m gonna squat I start off by doing body weight squats to warm up. Then I slowly add weight and do joint rotations like hip circles and side to side twists to get my body ready. You could do the same on a machine. Do 3 sets quite light, higher reps, before you do your main sets. I don’t think cardio is useless. It’s fantastic for cardiovascular health. But weights are what make you look better. And if you look better, you’ll go to the gym more often. You can do gym 5x a week for a year doing cardio and look exactly the same at the end. You can’t do that with weights | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better
Not even cardio for a warm up??
You can do cardio to warm up, but honestly, you might even be better off doing a warmup on each resistance machine you use.
For example, if I’m gonna squat I start off by doing body weight squats to warm up. Then I slowly add weight and do joint rotations like hip circles and side to side twists to get my body ready.
You could do the same on a machine. Do 3 sets quite light, higher reps, before you do your main sets.
I don’t think cardio is useless. It’s fantastic for cardiovascular health.
But weights are what make you look better. And if you look better, you’ll go to the gym more often.
You can do gym 5x a week for a year doing cardio and look exactly the same at the end.
You can’t do that with weights "I already have no idea what I'm doing and this post just confused me even further
But thanks for trying | |||
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"Too many people to busy trying to find a song they like on their device rather than training holding up equipment This is a true story "Hahaha luckily the cardio machines at my gym have a nice ledge on the monitor area so I usually put my phone on it and watch Netflix | |||
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"I tend to train as I’m out running, I’ve weights at home but like lifting logs in the forest… there’s a few piles of logs around my 7km route. I’ve uploaded one from this mornings run and squats session " *viking war chant starts to play.....* | |||
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"Too many people to busy trying to find a song they like on their device rather than training holding up equipment This is a true story
Hahaha luckily the cardio machines at my gym have a nice ledge on the monitor area so I usually put my phone on it and watch Netflix "So did mine, plus it plays music in the gym think I'd have to make an excuse not to train and admire the view any offers | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Late night session was it? Glad to hear you enjoyed it! (And that the report button works )
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Haha yeah I'm hugely self conscious so I go as late as I can get away with when it's quiet (thank fuck for working from home letting me sleep til 8.45 )
go with someone if you worried amber.
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"And preferably cardio as far away from your resistance training if you really had to do it. So on a different day or later in the day for example. To warm up before resistance training, do some dynamic stretches and some lighter weight sets before your working sets." Thanks, will try this | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better
Not even cardio for a warm up??
You can do cardio to warm up, but honestly, you might even be better off doing a warmup on each resistance machine you use.
For example, if I’m gonna squat I start off by doing body weight squats to warm up. Then I slowly add weight and do joint rotations like hip circles and side to side twists to get my body ready.
You could do the same on a machine. Do 3 sets quite light, higher reps, before you do your main sets.
I don’t think cardio is useless. It’s fantastic for cardiovascular health.
But weights are what make you look better. And if you look better, you’ll go to the gym more often.
You can do gym 5x a week for a year doing cardio and look exactly the same at the end.
You can’t do that with weights "The issue is that most people don't try hard enough with cardio. When we just run for exercise in between having a race/challenge to do our fitness pace and muscle tone drops right off even while maintaining a decent weekly mileage. Currently we're 9 weeks into a training plan that includes 1 session a week at either VO2 max or above lactate threshold, fitness has jumped, pace back up as fast as I've ever been and while my weight has barely changed at all there has been a definite physical change all while doing significantly less miles per week than earlier in the year. Sure you'll burn some calories and gain a bit of CV fitness doing 30 mins slow jog/swim/stair climb but those calories will be replaced easily with a quick snack on the way home. A 5 mile run with 10 x 2 mins at VO2 max pace will burn almost the same calories as a 5 mile jog chatting to your mate but will give a significantly different result. Mr | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better
Not even cardio for a warm up??
You can do cardio to warm up, but honestly, you might even be better off doing a warmup on each resistance machine you use.
For example, if I’m gonna squat I start off by doing body weight squats to warm up. Then I slowly add weight and do joint rotations like hip circles and side to side twists to get my body ready.
You could do the same on a machine. Do 3 sets quite light, higher reps, before you do your main sets.
I don’t think cardio is useless. It’s fantastic for cardiovascular health.
But weights are what make you look better. And if you look better, you’ll go to the gym more often.
You can do gym 5x a week for a year doing cardio and look exactly the same at the end.
You can’t do that with weights
The issue is that most people don't try hard enough with cardio. When we just run for exercise in between having a race/challenge to do our fitness pace and muscle tone drops right off even while maintaining a decent weekly mileage. Currently we're 9 weeks into a training plan that includes 1 session a week at either VO2 max or above lactate threshold, fitness has jumped, pace back up as fast as I've ever been and while my weight has barely changed at all there has been a definite physical change all while doing significantly less miles per week than earlier in the year.
Sure you'll burn some calories and gain a bit of CV fitness doing 30 mins slow jog/swim/stair climb but those calories will be replaced easily with a quick snack on the way home. A 5 mile run with 10 x 2 mins at VO2 max pace will burn almost the same calories as a 5 mile jog chatting to your mate but will give a significantly different result.
Mr"While I think your partly right that working harder = better results (duh?) I don’t think it applies directly across different people, and I still think a moderately difficult resistance training session is 100x better than basically any cardio in terms of improving your appearance Most people won’t do 10x2 at a decent pace, and the results aren’t going to be that impressive Most people absolutely can do 4x8-12 on 4-6 different machines across the gym and see phenomenal results | |||
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"I tend to train as I’m out running, I’ve weights at home but like lifting logs in the forest… there’s a few piles of logs around my 7km route. I’ve uploaded one from this mornings run and squats session *viking war chant starts to play.....*" Zeppelins - immigrant song | |||
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"I tend to train as I’m out running, I’ve weights at home but like lifting logs in the forest… there’s a few piles of logs around my 7km route. I’ve uploaded one from this mornings run and squats session *viking war chant starts to play.....* Zeppelins - immigrant song " Even better and thank you for the ear worm | |||
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"I tend to train as I’m out running, I’ve weights at home but like lifting logs in the forest… there’s a few piles of logs around my 7km route. I’ve uploaded one from this mornings run and squats session *viking war chant starts to play.....* Zeppelins - immigrant song Even better and thank you for the ear worm "My pleasure | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better
Not even cardio for a warm up??
You can do cardio to warm up, but honestly, you might even be better off doing a warmup on each resistance machine you use.
For example, if I’m gonna squat I start off by doing body weight squats to warm up. Then I slowly add weight and do joint rotations like hip circles and side to side twists to get my body ready.
You could do the same on a machine. Do 3 sets quite light, higher reps, before you do your main sets.
I don’t think cardio is useless. It’s fantastic for cardiovascular health.
But weights are what make you look better. And if you look better, you’ll go to the gym more often.
You can do gym 5x a week for a year doing cardio and look exactly the same at the end.
You can’t do that with weights
The issue is that most people don't try hard enough with cardio. When we just run for exercise in between having a race/challenge to do our fitness pace and muscle tone drops right off even while maintaining a decent weekly mileage. Currently we're 9 weeks into a training plan that includes 1 session a week at either VO2 max or above lactate threshold, fitness has jumped, pace back up as fast as I've ever been and while my weight has barely changed at all there has been a definite physical change all while doing significantly less miles per week than earlier in the year.
Sure you'll burn some calories and gain a bit of CV fitness doing 30 mins slow jog/swim/stair climb but those calories will be replaced easily with a quick snack on the way home. A 5 mile run with 10 x 2 mins at VO2 max pace will burn almost the same calories as a 5 mile jog chatting to your mate but will give a significantly different result.
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While I think your partly right that working harder = better results (duh?) I don’t think it applies directly across different people, and I still think a moderately difficult resistance training session is 100x better than basically any cardio in terms of improving your appearance
Most people won’t do 10x2 at a decent pace, and the results aren’t going to be that impressive
Most people absolutely can do 4x8-12 on 4-6 different machines across the gym and see phenomenal results "I did 4x12 on 3 different machines and 20 mins cardio, is that not enough then? Tbf I didn't feel that tired, was just getting too late. Also wouldn't say I'm totally motivated by appearance. More just general health and fitness. | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better
Not even cardio for a warm up??
You can do cardio to warm up, but honestly, you might even be better off doing a warmup on each resistance machine you use.
For example, if I’m gonna squat I start off by doing body weight squats to warm up. Then I slowly add weight and do joint rotations like hip circles and side to side twists to get my body ready.
You could do the same on a machine. Do 3 sets quite light, higher reps, before you do your main sets.
I don’t think cardio is useless. It’s fantastic for cardiovascular health.
But weights are what make you look better. And if you look better, you’ll go to the gym more often.
You can do gym 5x a week for a year doing cardio and look exactly the same at the end.
You can’t do that with weights
The issue is that most people don't try hard enough with cardio. When we just run for exercise in between having a race/challenge to do our fitness pace and muscle tone drops right off even while maintaining a decent weekly mileage. Currently we're 9 weeks into a training plan that includes 1 session a week at either VO2 max or above lactate threshold, fitness has jumped, pace back up as fast as I've ever been and while my weight has barely changed at all there has been a definite physical change all while doing significantly less miles per week than earlier in the year.
Sure you'll burn some calories and gain a bit of CV fitness doing 30 mins slow jog/swim/stair climb but those calories will be replaced easily with a quick snack on the way home. A 5 mile run with 10 x 2 mins at VO2 max pace will burn almost the same calories as a 5 mile jog chatting to your mate but will give a significantly different result.
Mr
While I think your partly right that working harder = better results (duh?) I don’t think it applies directly across different people, and I still think a moderately difficult resistance training session is 100x better than basically any cardio in terms of improving your appearance
Most people won’t do 10x2 at a decent pace, and the results aren’t going to be that impressive
Most people absolutely can do 4x8-12 on 4-6 different machines across the gym and see phenomenal results
I did 4x12 on 3 different machines and 20 mins cardio, is that not enough then? Tbf I didn't feel that tired, was just getting too late.
Also wouldn't say I'm totally motivated by appearance. More just general health and fitness. "I wouldn’t say it’s not enough, I’d just think you’d do better by replacing the 20 mins cardio with more machines. You could easily hit 2-3 more machines in that 20 mins. And while I appreciate the emphasis on health in general, the number 1 thing a person can do for their health is improve their body composition. So less fat, more muscle. Machines achieve both of those better than cardio ever could. Studies are now showing that most of the benefits we see from a healthier life style are directly caused by an improved body composition. Not to mention that people are far more likely to be consistent and work harder when results are coming. Weights really help that, cardio not so much | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better
Not even cardio for a warm up??
You can do cardio to warm up, but honestly, you might even be better off doing a warmup on each resistance machine you use.
For example, if I’m gonna squat I start off by doing body weight squats to warm up. Then I slowly add weight and do joint rotations like hip circles and side to side twists to get my body ready.
You could do the same on a machine. Do 3 sets quite light, higher reps, before you do your main sets.
I don’t think cardio is useless. It’s fantastic for cardiovascular health.
But weights are what make you look better. And if you look better, you’ll go to the gym more often.
You can do gym 5x a week for a year doing cardio and look exactly the same at the end.
You can’t do that with weights
The issue is that most people don't try hard enough with cardio. When we just run for exercise in between having a race/challenge to do our fitness pace and muscle tone drops right off even while maintaining a decent weekly mileage. Currently we're 9 weeks into a training plan that includes 1 session a week at either VO2 max or above lactate threshold, fitness has jumped, pace back up as fast as I've ever been and while my weight has barely changed at all there has been a definite physical change all while doing significantly less miles per week than earlier in the year.
Sure you'll burn some calories and gain a bit of CV fitness doing 30 mins slow jog/swim/stair climb but those calories will be replaced easily with a quick snack on the way home. A 5 mile run with 10 x 2 mins at VO2 max pace will burn almost the same calories as a 5 mile jog chatting to your mate but will give a significantly different result.
Mr
While I think your partly right that working harder = better results (duh?) I don’t think it applies directly across different people, and I still think a moderately difficult resistance training session is 100x better than basically any cardio in terms of improving your appearance
Most people won’t do 10x2 at a decent pace, and the results aren’t going to be that impressive
Most people absolutely can do 4x8-12 on 4-6 different machines across the gym and see phenomenal results
I did 4x12 on 3 different machines and 20 mins cardio, is that not enough then? Tbf I didn't feel that tired, was just getting too late.
Also wouldn't say I'm totally motivated by appearance. More just general health and fitness.
I wouldn’t say it’s not enough, I’d just think you’d do better by replacing the 20 mins cardio with more machines. You could easily hit 2-3 more machines in that 20 mins.
And while I appreciate the emphasis on health in general, the number 1 thing a person can do for their health is improve their body composition. So less fat, more muscle.
Machines achieve both of those better than cardio ever could.
Studies are now showing that most of the benefits we see from a healthier life style are directly caused by an improved body composition. Not to mention that people are far more likely to be consistent and work harder when results are coming. Weights really help that, cardio not so much "Yeah I get that. I'm just conscious of the fact that several members of my family have hereditary heart conditions and last month we unfortunately lost someone in my close family to cardiac arrest. It was totally unexpected as they were incredibly fit and healthy... So while I definitely want to increase my muscle mass, for the reasons above I also really want to focus my cardiovascular health too. | |||
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"So... Off the back of THAT comment earlier I was actually inspired to finally try the weight training machines tonight (obvs had to look up YouTube tutorials on how to use them first lol). Pleased to report my big fat arse fits on all the ones I tried
Plus I actually enjoyed it way more than the usual treadmill/crosstrainer combo. So thank you to whoever that troll was!
Plus weights are 100x more effective than cardio for body composition changes
So much so that I often tell new people to avoid cardio and focus entirely on weights. They’re just that much better
Not even cardio for a warm up??
You can do cardio to warm up, but honestly, you might even be better off doing a warmup on each resistance machine you use.
For example, if I’m gonna squat I start off by doing body weight squats to warm up. Then I slowly add weight and do joint rotations like hip circles and side to side twists to get my body ready.
You could do the same on a machine. Do 3 sets quite light, higher reps, before you do your main sets.
I don’t think cardio is useless. It’s fantastic for cardiovascular health.
But weights are what make you look better. And if you look better, you’ll go to the gym more often.
You can do gym 5x a week for a year doing cardio and look exactly the same at the end.
You can’t do that with weights
The issue is that most people don't try hard enough with cardio. When we just run for exercise in between having a race/challenge to do our fitness pace and muscle tone drops right off even while maintaining a decent weekly mileage. Currently we're 9 weeks into a training plan that includes 1 session a week at either VO2 max or above lactate threshold, fitness has jumped, pace back up as fast as I've ever been and while my weight has barely changed at all there has been a definite physical change all while doing significantly less miles per week than earlier in the year.
Sure you'll burn some calories and gain a bit of CV fitness doing 30 mins slow jog/swim/stair climb but those calories will be replaced easily with a quick snack on the way home. A 5 mile run with 10 x 2 mins at VO2 max pace will burn almost the same calories as a 5 mile jog chatting to your mate but will give a significantly different result.
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While I think your partly right that working harder = better results (duh?) I don’t think it applies directly across different people, and I still think a moderately difficult resistance training session is 100x better than basically any cardio in terms of improving your appearance
Most people won’t do 10x2 at a decent pace, and the results aren’t going to be that impressive
Most people absolutely can do 4x8-12 on 4-6 different machines across the gym and see phenomenal results
I did 4x12 on 3 different machines and 20 mins cardio, is that not enough then? Tbf I didn't feel that tired, was just getting too late.
Also wouldn't say I'm totally motivated by appearance. More just general health and fitness.
I wouldn’t say it’s not enough, I’d just think you’d do better by replacing the 20 mins cardio with more machines. You could easily hit 2-3 more machines in that 20 mins.
And while I appreciate the emphasis on health in general, the number 1 thing a person can do for their health is improve their body composition. So less fat, more muscle.
Machines achieve both of those better than cardio ever could.
Studies are now showing that most of the benefits we see from a healthier life style are directly caused by an improved body composition. Not to mention that people are far more likely to be consistent and work harder when results are coming. Weights really help that, cardio not so much
Yeah I get that. I'm just conscious of the fact that several members of my family have hereditary heart conditions and last month we unfortunately lost someone in my close family to cardiac arrest. It was totally unexpected as they were incredibly fit and healthy...
So while I definitely want to increase my muscle mass, for the reasons above I also really want to focus my cardiovascular health too. "Oh absolutely don’t neglect it, I’m just always trying to push the point home for 2 reasons 1. Most people have no idea how much more effective weights are body composition changes 2. Many new people put too much emphasis on cardio under belief that it “burns fat” which it just doesn’t. It’s not unusual to find people doing hours of cardio and seeing no results. 80/20 split seems to work best. 80% weights, 20% cardio, and don’t be fooled by this “hard cardio is best”. Studies again are showing that LISS cardio (low intensity steady state) is the best for general health. So that’s any cardio where you could still have a conversation while doing it | |||
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