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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hello!

I have quite like this site for a while since is the only place where I see real people want it to express their sexuality without any constrains and for the pleasure of doing it. I have been in here around for 2 years on and off.

Unfortunately in that time I haven't got a single reply yet.

At this point I wonder if there is something wrong with my profile or I just mega-suck at presentation liners.

So, I have some questions:

Is there any recommendation to open a first conversation?

Is not being responded the normal expected behaviour?

Any particular tips that you have noticed that help you with FabSwinger users?

Just some heads up, I always read the profiles and I'm not rude when contacting any ladies.

Cheers!

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

Genuinely OP, I have nothing useful here. But I didn't want you to have no reply.

Good luck in your quest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Genuinely OP, I have nothing useful here. But I didn't want you to have no reply.

Good luck in your quest."

Haha brilliant!!

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

Think you need to rethink your bio

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love these threads... I always feel better about myself....sorry but I've had a meet and some more in the pipeline....if I can then everyone can x

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Your bio could use some work.

Your profile is there to sell yourself, do you think it gets across who you are, what you are looking for and what you offer?

A few more interesting photos wouldn’t hurt.

However, not getting responses is common. It is acknowledged as a not interested type of reply.

Sometimes people don’t have the time or inclination to respond. Other times they may have a full dance card.

As for good openers, sadly there is no one size fits all. Different people will respond and react to different things. All you can do is be yourself, contact the people you feel you may have something in common with, and then hope for the best.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"Hello!

I have quite like this site for a while since is the only place where I see real people want it to express their sexuality without any constrains and for the pleasure of doing it. I have been in here around for 2 years on and off.

Unfortunately in that time I haven't got a single reply yet.

At this point I wonder if there is something wrong with my profile or I just mega-suck at presentation liners.

So, I have some questions:

Is there any recommendation to open a first conversation?

Is not being responded the normal expected behaviour?

Any particular tips that you have noticed that help you with FabSwinger users?

Just some heads up, I always read the profiles and I'm not rude when contacting any ladies.

Cheers!"

Your bio is very basic, women read them and decide whether to respond or not.

You talk about what you want, not who you are and why you’re different from the other guys on here looking for responses.

You have two photos, a dick and a face pic. That’s it. If that tells people who you are then it’s not saying much.

You have to sell yourself. I get messages all the time, I rarely start conversations so I’m living proof that you can do it.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I love these threads... I always feel better about myself....sorry but I've had a meet and some more in the pipeline....if I can then everyone can x"

Show off

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire


"Hello!

I have quite like this site for a while since is the only place where I see real people want it to express their sexuality without any constrains and for the pleasure of doing it. I have been in here around for 2 years on and off.

Unfortunately in that time I haven't got a single reply yet.

At this point I wonder if there is something wrong with my profile or I just mega-suck at presentation liners.

So, I have some questions:

Is there any recommendation to open a first conversation?

Is not being responded the normal expected behaviour?

Any particular tips that you have noticed that help you with FabSwinger users?

Just some heads up, I always read the profiles and I'm not rude when contacting any ladies.

Cheers!

Your bio is very basic, women read them and decide whether to respond or not.

You talk about what you want, not who you are and why you’re different from the other guys on here looking for responses.

You have two photos, a dick and a face pic. That’s it. If that tells people who you are then it’s not saying much.

You have to sell yourself. I get messages all the time, I rarely start conversations so I’m living proof that you can do it. "

This roughly what I was going to say.

Three types of profiles, in my opinion.

1. Fill in later, no pictures or one or two totally uninspired photos, generally of their cock or body.

2. Basic or generic, same thing being said on a thousand other guys profiles, mainly about what they want rather than what they’ll bring to a meeting. More pictures, but just like the text nothing that makes them stand out from the rest.

3. Unique, these are the guys who have obviously thought about their profile. Each picture is different than the last and imaginative. Text that clearly states who they are, what they’ll bring to a meeting but more importantly shows their personality clearly. This doesn’t require a long profile text, just something that makes them stand out from the rest.

It isn’t easy being unique on this site, but I’ve read hundreds of Male profiles and the ones that stand out are a pleasure to read and often full of verifications as well.

Good luck Op

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't met but I speak regularly to a couple of people. I met them in forums where we had a shared interest then started chatting.

Don't look on this as a sex site. You need to establish a connection by shared interests. If anything develops then fine. If not, there's nowt wrong with having friends. One difference between friends on here and friends in real life is that on fab you usually get to see each others bits before you get their name!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My bio is shite.....i survive.

2 years is a looooong time OP . Surely you must have had a reply during that time! SURELY!!!!!

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip


"

At this point I wonder if there is something wrong with my profile or I just mega-suck at presentation liners.

"

Single line messages don't work on most people. People want to know they'll get on with you. They want people they can have some banter with on the whole.

If you don't show any ability to have a conversation in you first message then you are unlikely to get anywhere, except when the mere site of you causes a lady to become moist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love these threads... I always feel better about myself....sorry but I've had a meet and some more in the pipeline....if I can then everyone can x

Show off"

I know...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My bio is shite.....i survive.

2 years is a looooong time OP . Surely you must have had a reply during that time! SURELY!!!!!"

Yes, honest truth not a single message.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My bio is shite.....i survive.

2 years is a looooong time OP . Surely you must have had a reply during that time! SURELY!!!!!

Yes, honest truth not a single message."

Fair play for sticking around, get involved in the forums. Plenty of guys in the same position, maybe not 2 years though! A little bit of graft and it will be all good

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

At this point I wonder if there is something wrong with my profile or I just mega-suck at presentation liners.

Single line messages don't work on most people. People want to know they'll get on with you. They want people they can have some banter with on the whole.

If you don't show any ability to have a conversation in you first message then you are unlikely to get anywhere, except when the mere site of you causes a lady to become moist. "

Yes, my current bio is way shorter than I had at the beginning which was very explicit. No responses was my reason why I drop off a long Bio hehehe, I though that I was doing something wrong there.

I'm not entirely sure what to add, I'm very simple on my approach, the only thing I want to have is a fun sexual time with more people, that's it.

Maybe that's an indication that nobody is looking for something so simple, maybe most people want something else.

If that's the final message, I'm good with it, just asking since wanted to hear any kind of feedback from the kind of persons that we can find in this site.

I'm not criticising btw, I'm cool if everyone's wants something more complex. Is only very useful for me just to know that maybe I'm not a proper fit to the common FabSwinger profile.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Could be they read your profile and decided you weren't for them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My bio is shite.....i survive.

2 years is a looooong time OP . Surely you must have had a reply during that time! SURELY!!!!!

Yes, honest truth not a single message.

Fair play for sticking around, get involved in the forums. Plenty of guys in the same position, maybe not 2 years though! A little bit of graft and it will be all good "

Yeah, for some reason I never seen the forums before, it feels good to actually know that I'm exist now hehehe, thanks for reply all of you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your profile reads to me like you’re a married man who’s wife is out Thursday and Friday. I might be miles of the mark but it’d put me off

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Could be they read your profile and decided you weren't for them.

"

Yes, I understand that, I'm not criticizing neither saying that someone is obligated to respond. Not being interested by others is cool and respectable.

I'm just saying that when the rate is 100% of non interest maybe I'm looking for something insanely different than everyone else or also not interesting enough on fab users standards.

And Again, that's fine! I don't want to put the perception that I'm a downer or I feel like any kind of victim, because I don't.

I'm maybe just surprised that being so simple is not a good thing hehehe. Maybe a life lesson.

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

There are plenty of individuals who are meeting and socialising regularly.

The smart individual would look at their profile, their approach and even ask for their advice.

Insider knowledge is gold...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are plenty of individuals who are meeting and socialising regularly.

The smart individual would look at their profile, their approach and even ask for their advice.

Insider knowledge is gold... "

But insider woman is way better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perfectly normal

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By *rs mischiefWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

I think you need to work in your profile a little bit. I would respond with a polite no thanks, after reading it.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Your personality on this thread is not what is being shown on your profile. You have taken advice and criticism well and I think you come across like a nice guy.

Just add a few more pictures, contribute to the forums more, look at other guys profiles and get ideas but don’t copy them. Then hopefully you’ll get a few replies from a updated profile.

Hope you find this thread as an optimistic new start on the site.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Could be they read your profile and decided you weren't for them.

Yes, I understand that, I'm not criticizing neither saying that someone is obligated to respond. Not being interested by others is cool and respectable.

I'm just saying that when the rate is 100% of non interest maybe I'm looking for something insanely different than everyone else or also not interesting enough on fab users standards.

And Again, that's fine! I don't want to put the perception that I'm a downer or I feel like any kind of victim, because I don't.

I'm maybe just surprised that being so simple is not a good thing hehehe. Maybe a life lesson."

"simple" = looking for a fuck.

Man looking for a fuck = no news there then.

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

Your bio is basic and until recently you had just a cock pic on show.

Your profile is a chance to show yourself off - currently you don’t so you go down towards the back of the queue.

You maybe need to re-word the part about you only being available on Thursday and Friday as it sounds like you are married and they are the two days you are free. That may or may not be the case but be clearer and it’ll resolve the issue.

Sell yourself…

K

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think you need to work in your profile a little bit. I would respond with a polite no thanks, after reading it. "

Hope to see more people like you! Thanks for doing that really

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Your personality on this thread is not what is being shown on your profile. You have taken advice and criticism well and I think you come across like a nice guy.

Just add a few more pictures, contribute to the forums more, look at other guys profiles and get ideas but don’t copy them. Then hopefully you’ll get a few replies from a updated profile.

Hope you find this thread as an optimistic new start on the site. "

Thanks a lot! Sure, I believe I can at least understand the site better and now if it's what I'm looking for as well

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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"simple" = looking for a fuck.

Man looking for a fuck = no news there then.

"

Yes, not entirely sure why I should need some news or other information.

I'm getting quite disappointed that the Swinger scene is like a Tinder with less clothes.

I really was hoping that I could get a lot of people enjoying their buddies without the same rituals or standards of common hook ups. Expecting a bit more openness to the pure expression of the buddies and I normally find exactly the same behaviour of a normal date, which no offense, is quite boring for me. I truly believe in a world of honesty and being direct with feelings and intentions instead of "playing the game", which is not my thing.

Not making any assumptions, just want it to share that

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By *onb21Woman
over a year ago

Cardiff

Maybe you could fulfil someone's fetish and sell yourself as that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Your bio is basic and until recently you had just a cock pic on show.

Your profile is a chance to show yourself off - currently you don’t so you go down towards the back of the queue.

You maybe need to re-word the part about you only being available on Thursday and Friday as it sounds like you are married and they are the two days you are free. That may or may not be the case but be clearer and it’ll resolve the issue.

Sell yourself…

K"

That's a good Feedback Thanks!

Although maybe that's not what I'm looking. Even I don't look on a match.

As a Woman you can put just a standard picture of your body and that's all I need, no special selling involved since I already saw all I need.

Your body language speaks volumes, even if you don't pose for the camera.

That's what I say when I'm refering to me as simple, don't need to much, don't ask for much. I believe that there is no need for selling yourself for a single meeting. You will show everything on person.

Although I quite agree in giving more details to let people know what are you up to and what you are not up to.

Thanks a lot for the feedback, I think is very good. Just sharing my thoughs.

pd.

About my Wife, yes she's already aware, and we have talk about it. She doesn't like to get involved and she's more demi sexual with not a really big sexual desire. She approves this as long as she is not involved at all. Wasn't sure to put that in the bio but due to the confusion seems like a good idea to put it hehehe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And there's me thinking I was but it doing all of this I'm sure you're still getting replies after 2-years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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"simple" = looking for a fuck.

Man looking for a fuck = no news there then.

Yes, not entirely sure why I should need some news or other information.

I'm getting quite disappointed that the Swinger scene is like a Tinder with less clothes.

I really was hoping that I could get a lot of people enjoying their buddies without the same rituals or standards of common hook ups. Expecting a bit more openness to the pure expression of the buddies and I normally find exactly the same behaviour of a normal date, which no offense, is quite boring for me. I truly believe in a world of honesty and being direct with feelings and intentions instead of "playing the game", which is not my thing.

Not making any assumptions, just want it to share that "

Women like to know who they are playing with. It's not a relationship. It's a feeling of safety and connection. For a woman to tell you what she wants in the bedroom she'll need to be able to hold a normal conversation with you first. So you will have to spend some time building the foundations for a good sexual relationship.

I had one guy I got to know well enough, after that he'd come round, fuck and leave shortly after. But I knew I could talk to him and we understood each other.

If you look for just quick fucks with hardly any work you'll make each woman you talk to feel like she a free prostitute. Which she isn't, she's a woman with a healthy sexual appetite. Not just there at a man's disposal. And she'll want to know you'll please her and not just yourself. So sorry but the same rituals and common standards of normal hookups still apply. And even more apply if you want enter more non vanilla play.

So it's up to you, if you want it easy go find an escort.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Your list of interests is longer than your bio.

No sense of personality at all.

If your messages are generic they won't draw anyone to your profile and as most women look at profiles before they open a message there's nothing that jumps out at them.

Two years is a long time to get no response.

Remember also that over complimentary messages can be as off-putting to most as faf ones.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

I am not sure you will find a while lot of people who just want a hookup so that might be part of the issue. I would say it's unusual for you not to receive a single reply in two years. The men i know have a much better hit rate than that.

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"Your bio is basic and until recently you had just a cock pic on show.

Your profile is a chance to show yourself off - currently you don’t so you go down towards the back of the queue.

You maybe need to re-word the part about you only being available on Thursday and Friday as it sounds like you are married and they are the two days you are free. That may or may not be the case but be clearer and it’ll resolve the issue.

Sell yourself…

K

That's a good Feedback Thanks!

Although maybe that's not what I'm looking. Even I don't look on a match.

As a Woman you can put just a standard picture of your body and that's all I need, no special selling involved since I already saw all I need.

Your body language speaks volumes, even if you don't pose for the camera.

That's what I say when I'm refering to me as simple, don't need to much, don't ask for much. I believe that there is no need for selling yourself for a single meeting. You will show everything on person.

Although I quite agree in giving more details to let people know what are you up to and what you are not up to.

Thanks a lot for the feedback, I think is very good. Just sharing my thoughs.

pd.

About my Wife, yes she's already aware, and we have talk about it. She doesn't like to get involved and she's more demi sexual with not a really big sexual desire. She approves this as long as she is not involved at all. Wasn't sure to put that in the bio but due to the confusion seems like a good idea to put it hehehe."

I think it’ll help…explain your situation and people don’t need to wonder. Are you not free other days or have you been allocated those 2 days for your ‘hobby’?

You also say in a previous post that you shouldn’t have to make an effort as it’s just a sex site…well 2 years without a reply should really be showing you that it’s not working and your thought process should change.

It’s a swinging site, where liberated people can have sex with others. But the basis is there, regardless of which site you are on - an attraction is required. Yes, it’s just sex but if a woman can have sex and also develop a connection with that person, then the sex gets better and there’s a likelihood there may be repeat meets.

K

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton


"Could be they read your profile and decided you weren't for them.

Yes, I understand that, I'm not criticizing neither saying that someone is obligated to respond. Not being interested by others is cool and respectable.

I'm just saying that when the rate is 100% of non interest maybe I'm looking for something insanely different than everyone else or also not interesting enough on fab users standards.

And Again, that's fine! I don't want to put the perception that I'm a downer or I feel like any kind of victim, because I don't.

I'm maybe just surprised that being so simple is not a good thing hehehe. Maybe a life lesson."

Ok let’s do a test. Imagine I’m a woman. Send me a private opening message and I’ll give you honest critique

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Genuinely OP, I have nothing useful here. But I didn't want you to have no reply.

Good luck in your quest."

Don't fucking kill me. A pity reply. Women are the worst sometimes loool

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think it’ll help…explain your situation and people don’t need to wonder. Are you not free other days or have you been allocated those 2 days for your ‘hobby’?

You also say in a previous post that you shouldn’t have to make an effort as it’s just a sex site…well 2 years without a reply should really be showing you that it’s not working and your thought process should change.

It’s a swinging site, where liberated people can have sex with others. But the basis is there, regardless of which site you are on - an attraction is required. Yes, it’s just sex but if a woman can have sex and also develop a connection with that person, then the sex gets better and there’s a likelihood there may be repeat meets.

K

"

Thanks I really like your replies

Yeah I think you have pointed out the issue pretty well. I believe that I'm not giving any particular clues on people to picture an actual personality out of my bare list of interests. So I totally think I can improve into that, thanks for that insight

In some sense it quite make sense for me to get that after an actual meeting instead of on a site, but I'm asking too much, I quite get it now.

Thanks for all the replies, really make me think!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you look for just quick fucks with hardly any work you'll make each woman you talk to feel like she a free prostitute. "

Not sure why. If you were a simple fuck from me with hardly any work, I wouldn't feel like a prostitute. I feel that this way of thinking put the bases that sex must be earned instead of a free choice. As long as sex must be earned, sex will be used as an exchange coin, and I would not agree over that.


"So it's up to you, if you want it easy go find an escort. "

I don't see the need to pay for a woman to only would have sex with me for money. That takes everything away from it. Free will is the most important bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd suggest adding a few photos showing your physique. Also your bio is quite brief and only says what you want, not what you can offer. I don't know who you are after reading it?

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

I would say no OP. It’s not normal, or at least when I have come and gone from the site I don’t tend to have such a long period of no interaction after setting up a profile.

Think of your profile as a shop window. Are you a high street (generalist) or back street (niche) kinda guy, decide on that first and then tailor your profile to that. Make sure your pictures match what you say in your profile. And say a bit more about yourself, encourage people to look at you, read about you, leave some mystery, show some honesty. Write the way you are, what you like (not just sex, but hey, I don’t need to know about your love of Lego, unless of course you are “niche”)

You, through the pictures you display and the words that you write are the main barrier to success (and by You I mean all of us). Switch it up, put some energy into it and hopefully effort will be rewarded.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"

Maybe that's an indication that nobody is looking for something so simple, maybe most people want something else."

Kind of. Imagine turning up for a job interview and saying I just want to do some kind of work for some kind of pay.

When faced with hundreds of more exciting choices, people will just ignore you

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Maybe that's an indication that nobody is looking for something so simple, maybe most people want something else.

Kind of. Imagine turning up for a job interview and saying I just want to do some kind of work for some kind of pay.

When faced with hundreds of more exciting choices, people will just ignore you "

You have a good point there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd suggest adding a few photos showing your physique. Also your bio is quite brief and only says what you want, not what you can offer. I don't know who you are after reading it?"

Just updated my profile. I would love if I could receive some feedback now.

Is there a place in Forums to get reviews from the users or should I create a Post for it? (I mean, just to know, I already created this one.)

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By *urora1912Woman
over a year ago

Norfolk East anglia

Having a wife, yes she may know but that will put others off

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

I think your profile has improved 100% and her lets be honest if you haven’t had any traction in 2 years, experimenting with being honest, up front and articulate can only be a win

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2 years, jeez, that’s harsh, I haven’t read the thread, but please don’t tell me someone said ‘patience is key’ ?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think your profile has improved 100% and her lets be honest if you haven’t had any traction in 2 years, experimenting with being honest, up front and articulate can only be a win "

Thanks!

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

Oh yeah, patience is the key.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"2 years, jeez, that’s harsh, I haven’t read the thread, but please don’t tell me someone said ‘patience is key’ ?!"

Fortunately not hehehe.

It was my fault mostly, I never saw the forums before and seems that I have a very poor profile management, poor understanding of the users and quite a very specific situation hehehe.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Having a wife, yes she may know but that will put others off "

That's fine. Better that than being a surprise.

Or do you mean that I don't need to mention it?

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By *urora1912Woman
over a year ago

Norfolk East anglia


"Having a wife, yes she may know but that will put others off

That's fine. Better that than being a surprise.

Or do you mean that I don't need to mention it?"

No I mean some won't believe the fact she knows.

Some won't want to meet because you're married.

Better to be honest though saying you are and she knows

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Having a wife, yes she may know but that will put others off

That's fine. Better that than being a surprise.

Or do you mean that I don't need to mention it?

No I mean some won't believe the fact she knows.

Some won't want to meet because you're married.

Better to be honest though saying you are and she knows "

Yes, I understand, sounds quite convenient, but what can I do? Is exactly the situation that I'm in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd suggest adding a few photos showing your physique. Also your bio is quite brief and only says what you want, not what you can offer. I don't know who you are after reading it?

Just updated my profile. I would love if I could receive some feedback now.

Is there a place in Forums to get reviews from the users or should I create a Post for it? (I mean, just to know, I already created this one.)"

I think it's a lot better now. It will let the reader know who you are and give them a sense of you. You won't appeal to everyone, especially if your wife won't be willing to verify that this is ok with her, but that's your situation, so not much you can do about it really.

Best of luck!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you look for just quick fucks with hardly any work you'll make each woman you talk to feel like she a free prostitute.

Not sure why. If you were a simple fuck from me with hardly any work, I wouldn't feel like a prostitute. I feel that this way of thinking put the bases that sex must be earned instead of a free choice. As long as sex must be earned, sex will be used as an exchange coin, and I would not agree over that.

So it's up to you, if you want it easy go find an escort.

I don't see the need to pay for a woman to only would have sex with me for money. That takes everything away from it. Free will is the most important bit."

So you want a woman to choose you freely and there's a compliment in it for you. I get that. You have to make yourself something she will want to chose though. Saying you just want a quick fuck without much work isn't going to make you a good choice. If you really haven't had a message in 2 years and that's been your attitude throughout maybe you need to change it and see if you get a different result.

As for not feeling like a prostitute, with all due respect that's not how most women work. And it's not the sex that's earned its the trust that is earned before someone gives you a very intimate part of themselves no matter how much of a fuck that ends up being.

I think you missed my point, and just because you wouldn't feel a certain way in a certain scenario doesn't mean others will be the same. Maybe you should accept it as it is the way it is.

Also, your replies were a little on the incoherent side.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nice pics , hopefully it will start coming together now. It will be what you make it. Choose your audience, swerve the divas. Good luck!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

read your profile, whats more interesting in you than the thousands of other men on here?

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London


"If you look for just quick fucks with hardly any work you'll make each woman you talk to feel like she a free prostitute.

Not sure why. If you were a simple fuck from me with hardly any work, I wouldn't feel like a prostitute. I feel that this way of thinking put the bases that sex must be earned instead of a free choice. As long as sex must be earned, sex will be used as an exchange coin, and I would not agree over that.

So it's up to you, if you want it easy go find an escort.

I don't see the need to pay for a woman to only would have sex with me for money. That takes everything away from it. Free will is the most important bit.

So you want a woman to choose you freely and there's a compliment in it for you. I get that. You have to make yourself something she will want to chose though. Saying you just want a quick fuck without much work isn't going to make you a good choice. If you really haven't had a message in 2 years and that's been your attitude throughout maybe you need to change it and see if you get a different result.

As for not feeling like a prostitute, with all due respect that's not how most women work. And it's not the sex that's earned its the trust that is earned before someone gives you a very intimate part of themselves no matter how much of a fuck that ends up being.

I think you missed my point, and just because you wouldn't feel a certain way in a certain scenario doesn't mean others will be the same. Maybe you should accept it as it is the way it is.

Also, your replies were a little on the incoherent side. "

I second PetiteWoman because she made some important points. I am surprised that you seem unaware of it but safety and trust are crucial aspects for women. Also, female sexuality is not a default copy of male sexuality and for many of us "a simple fuck" with some stranger who could turn out to be dangerous or a selfish and bad lover is not attractive. It takes time and effort to meet men and to evaluate the risks. If I want a simple orgasm I will just use my sex toys, they deliver a guaranteed result efficiently, conveniently and safely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try going to clubs,but go with the mindset of socialising only,expect nothing,and if you have good manners and respect,and just chat to people,you may get some verifications,that's how I always enter a club, expecting nothing.and I find people are so approachable and friendly in clubs,so long as your not stupid enough to ask if they're playing etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you look for just quick fucks with hardly any work you'll make each woman you talk to feel like she a free prostitute.

Not sure why. If you were a simple fuck from me with hardly any work, I wouldn't feel like a prostitute. I feel that this way of thinking put the bases that sex must be earned instead of a free choice. As long as sex must be earned, sex will be used as an exchange coin, and I would not agree over that.

So it's up to you, if you want it easy go find an escort.

I don't see the need to pay for a woman to only would have sex with me for money. That takes everything away from it. Free will is the most important bit."

what do you mean by "everything"? This suggests to me sex is more than just ejaculation for you.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip


"

At this point I wonder if there is something wrong with my profile or I just mega-suck at presentation liners.

Single line messages don't work on most people. People want to know they'll get on with you. They want people they can have some banter with on the whole.

If you don't show any ability to have a conversation in you first message then you are unlikely to get anywhere, except when the mere site of you causes a lady to become moist.

Yes, my current bio is way shorter than I had at the beginning which was very explicit. No responses was my reason why I drop off a long Bio hehehe, I though that I was doing something wrong there.

I'm not entirely sure what to add, I'm very simple on my approach, the only thing I want to have is a fun sexual time with more people, that's it.

Maybe that's an indication that nobody is looking for something so simple, maybe most people want something else.

If that's the final message, I'm good with it, just asking since wanted to hear any kind of feedback from the kind of persons that we can find in this site.

I'm not criticising btw, I'm cool if everyone's wants something more complex. Is only very useful for me just to know that maybe I'm not a proper fit to the common FabSwinger profile."

The most important erogenous zone of most women is their mind. If you can't engage it, you won't get anywhere. You will see this written again and again on forums. If women don't see a way of communication, in most cases you won't get anywhere. Short messages with no content do not demonstrate the communication skills which are highly sought after. Engage their minds and the world is your lobster.

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

You're married. That would be the deal breaker for me.

But pics are ok, stopped reading bio though. Bit long?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing in 2 years? I'd recommend a different approach.

The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You're married. That would be the deal breaker for me.

But pics are ok, stopped reading bio though. Bit long?"

Thanks for the feedback! I had a very short one before and seems that was worse hehehe, but a mix point should be good thanks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

The most important erogenous zone of most women is their mind. If you can't engage it, you won't get anywhere. You will see this written again and again on forums. If women don't see a way of communication, in most cases you won't get anywhere. Short messages with no content do not demonstrate the communication skills which are highly sought after. Engage their minds and the world is your lobster."

I can see that, although all my mental power usually goes to other activities hehehe, seems that I need to refill my energies to put some priorities in order.

In sex I'm very primal and primitive, don't enjoy the foreplay at all, that for sure seems that get my chances way lower hehehe. I quite prefer to accept this reality than try to mold my sexual preferences. I know, 99% of woman are out of this... still love to meet the 1%

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don't see the need to pay for a woman to only would have sex with me for money. That takes everything away from it. Free will is the most important bit.

what do you mean by "everything"? This suggests to me sex is more than just ejaculation for you. "

Well yeah, if sex were just an ejaculation I would be very happy just wanking hehehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

The most important erogenous zone of most women is their mind. If you can't engage it, you won't get anywhere. You will see this written again and again on forums. If women don't see a way of communication, in most cases you won't get anywhere. Short messages with no content do not demonstrate the communication skills which are highly sought after. Engage their minds and the world is your lobster.

I can see that, although all my mental power usually goes to other activities hehehe, seems that I need to refill my energies to put some priorities in order.

In sex I'm very primal and primitive, don't enjoy the foreplay at all, that for sure seems that get my chances way lower hehehe. I quite prefer to accept this reality than try to mold my sexual preferences. I know, 99% of woman are out of this... still love to meet the 1%

"

Have you thought about dogging meets instead? Much more spontaneous, less foreplay, less build up required. Although might not work with restricted availability

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Try going to clubs,but go with the mindset of socialising only,expect nothing,and if you have good manners and respect,and just chat to people,you may get some verifications,that's how I always enter a club, expecting nothing.and I find people are so approachable and friendly in clubs,so long as your not stupid enough to ask if they're playing etc"

Love your recommendation buddy! I feel this is a very nice way of doing it

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Kudos for the way you've handled responses on here op. You've had a few "curve balls" lobbed in there and kept it all very positive. Hope it works out for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Start again. New profile. Your profile has no veris in over a year so its gonna take sone convincing. Be realistic who you message aswell. A woman with 20 veris off 6 foot 5 12 inch cock meat heads probably isn't going to reply. But definitely start over. And a short good first message is key. Even then chances of getting a reply is minimal.

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By *jonesMan
over a year ago

Plymouth

Go to an organised social . You'll meet lots of folk

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Kudos for the way you've handled responses on here op. You've had a few "curve balls" lobbed in there and kept it all very positive. Hope it works out for you"

Is already working a lot! Whenever I have enough information to diggest I'm cool with it. I genuinely have doubts about what was wrong and I believe that most people has bring enough points to actually understand it better

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Have you thought about dogging meets instead? Much more spontaneous, less foreplay, less build up required. Although might not work with restricted availability "

To be honest I didn't knew about them, but actually sounds really good and something that It might work for me, even talk it to my wife.

Where could I get more information about this meetings?

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