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"Step back... he's an adult and not your responsibility. " i agree, but hes getting in the way of our relationship | |||
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"Step back... he's an adult and not your responsibility. i agree, but hes getting in the way of our relationship" This is really something you need to resolve between you. If you can't, it could just eat away at the relationship. | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others " thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him | |||
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"Step back... he's an adult and not your responsibility. i agree, but hes getting in the way of our relationship This is really something you need to resolve between you. If you can't, it could just eat away at the relationship. " it is already, but i love her and not ready to give up on her | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him" Do you think you should get involved with? | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him Do you think you should get involved with? " im already involved | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him" yea but hes her free loading work shy wanker haha so if you get involved without her consent u could drive a wedge but its up to you a bit of reality might wake him up if something bad happens between him and you blood is usually thicker than water so u need to make sure mrs agrees with your view | |||
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"im in a relasionship with a lovely woman, however ive spent a few days at her houe, and the oldest child is really not taking to me for some raeson, he had a right go at me the other day, child in question is 21, never had a job, does pay a small anount of rent but doesnt so anything in the house, how do i go about this, if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best, but hes not mine, and its driving a wedge between us?" How long you been in this lads life? | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him Do you think you should get involved with? im already involved" With him, and his behaviour? | |||
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"im in a relasionship with a lovely woman, however ive spent a few days at her houe, and the oldest child is really not taking to me for some raeson, he had a right go at me the other day, child in question is 21, never had a job, does pay a small anount of rent but doesnt so anything in the house, how do i go about this, if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best, but hes not mine, and its driving a wedge between us? How long you been in this lads life?" only a couple of years, his dad sadly died in a car crash, we have been together a few yaers, i feel he resents me | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him" Than that's the issue right there. | |||
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"If some of the things you are saying here you are saying to your partner about her child, I’m not surprised causing a wedge. Your relation is with her and not the child, who is an adult " i try not to tell her, but she picks up on things | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it." so i should split with the woman i love? | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him" I do think that you apparent hatred of the guy is probably not going to help the situation. Maybe you could do with a bit of reset? | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it." Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. | |||
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"Not your issue. Keep your nose out. " At the moment you sound like the wanker that needs to mind their own business. You'll lose out if you don't. Not sure why you think you need to interfere tbh | |||
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"He's an adult, and he's not yours. So just don't interact with him. " problem is he lives at hers, we cant always be at mine, she also has two other kids who are a joy, and have taken to me in a big way, wouldnt be fair on them | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. " she knows my thoughts, and tbh feels the same, try not to be to judgementle please, im asking if someone had any ideas, not for a slagging off | |||
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"im in a relasionship with a lovely woman, however ive spent a few days at her houe, and the oldest child is really not taking to me for some raeson, he had a right go at me the other day, child in question is 21, never had a job, does pay a small anount of rent but doesnt so anything in the house, how do i go about this, if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best, but hes not mine, and its driving a wedge between us?" Tricky one... I've had 12 years of a similar situation to reflect upon. Start as you mean to go on. Whatever any values you have. Second, she will always choose her son over boyfriend... | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. so i should split with the woman i love?" Did I say that? No, but back off most definitely....It is obvious you don't like him, and tbh if I was your partner and saw you speak about my boy with such vitriol you'd be gone | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. she knows my thoughts, and tbh feels the same, try not to be to judgementle please, im asking if someone had any ideas, not for a slagging off" But you just said you try not to tell her so how does she know your feelings and your not being slagged off, people are giving their opinions which is what you asked for. | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. so i should split with the woman i love? Did I say that? No, but back off most definitely....It is obvious you don't like him, and tbh if I was your partner and saw you speak about my boy with such vitriol you'd be gone" Exactly this. | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. she knows my thoughts, and tbh feels the same, try not to be to judgementle please, im asking if someone had any ideas, not for a slagging off But you just said you try not to tell her so how does she know your feelings and your not being slagged off, people are giving their opinions which is what you asked for." ok fair point, she knows my feelings towards him, i just dont see a way out, im lost for ideas, was hoping for some advise, but i fear the poster who said the child will always come first is right | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. she knows my thoughts, and tbh feels the same, try not to be to judgementle please, im asking if someone had any ideas, not for a slagging off But you just said you try not to tell her so how does she know your feelings and your not being slagged off, people are giving their opinions which is what you asked for. ok fair point, she knows my feelings towards him, i just dont see a way out, im lost for ideas, was hoping for some advise, but i fear the poster who said the child will always come first is right" Children will and should always come first, not sure why you seem surprised by this. | |||
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"He's not a child at 21, he's a man, so treat him like one. Take him to the pub, get a few beers in him and get know him. You'll either end up as mates or you'll end up fighting, but at least you'll know where you stand. " tried that | |||
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"He's not a child at 21, he's a man, so treat him like one. Take him to the pub, get a few beers in him and get know him. You'll either end up as mates or you'll end up fighting, but at least you'll know where you stand. " even offered him a job but he turned it down, to much work aperently | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him" And that right there is the problem ( but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him ) First off he’s not your child Secondly if I was his mother you be gone for speeking about my child like that no matter what he dose or dosent do See instead off trying to intervine bween him and his mother Why not just be there for his mother to listen to the problems be a shoulder for her to cry on be there to console her when see needs it but it’s not your place to step in | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. she knows my thoughts, and tbh feels the same, try not to be to judgementle please, im asking if someone had any ideas, not for a slagging off But you just said you try not to tell her so how does she know your feelings and your not being slagged off, people are giving their opinions which is what you asked for. ok fair point, she knows my feelings towards him, i just dont see a way out, im lost for ideas, was hoping for some advise, but i fear the poster who said the child will always come first is right Children will and should always come first, not sure why you seem surprised by this. " Exactly that, my boys are pushing 30 and they would still come first | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. she knows my thoughts, and tbh feels the same, try not to be to judgementle please, im asking if someone had any ideas, not for a slagging off But you just said you try not to tell her so how does she know your feelings and your not being slagged off, people are giving their opinions which is what you asked for. ok fair point, she knows my feelings towards him, i just dont see a way out, im lost for ideas, was hoping for some advise, but i fear the poster who said the child will always come first is right Children will and should always come first, not sure why you seem surprised by this. " im not, but do you have any ideas what i should do? | |||
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"im in a relasionship with a lovely woman, however ive spent a few days at her houe, and the oldest child is really not taking to me for some raeson, he had a right go at me the other day, child in question is 21, never had a job, does pay a small anount of rent but doesnt so anything in the house, how do i go about this, if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best, but hes not mine, and its driving a wedge between us? How long you been in this lads life?only a couple of years, his dad sadly died in a car crash, we have been together a few yaers, i feel he resents me" Even when you met he was or nearly an adult. He might be still mourning the loss of his father and resentful of a new man in his family life. Just give him space, as said before your relationship is with your partner not him. Try to draw a line under it or imagine how he might feel, be the bigger adult and don’t rise to any confrontation. | |||
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" if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best" Not my idea of good parenting. | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. she knows my thoughts, and tbh feels the same, try not to be to judgementle please, im asking if someone had any ideas, not for a slagging off But you just said you try not to tell her so how does she know your feelings and your not being slagged off, people are giving their opinions which is what you asked for. ok fair point, she knows my feelings towards him, i just dont see a way out, im lost for ideas, was hoping for some advise, but i fear the poster who said the child will always come first is right Children will and should always come first, not sure why you seem surprised by this. im not, but do you have any ideas what i should do?" Yes keep your opinion to yourself unless your partner asks for input and hope she never sees this post. | |||
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" i fear the poster who said the child will always come first is right" If you can't understand the relationship between a mother and her child (irrespective of the age of the child) then I don't think you'll ever get past this issue. Of course someone's child will also be of greater importance to them than a romantic relationship. Mr KC knows I love him to bits, but I have to say that if I was forced to choose between my children and him, I'd choose the children. He knows that and I know he'd make the same choice if faced with it. Both of us would die to save our kids and would sacrifice each other. | |||
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"Well he's not a child at 21 and you are not his father. And tbh regardless of what he is or isn't doing I would be beyond pissed off if it were my lad you were criticising Leave it and let them deal with it. Exactly and as its a couples profile she could well see this. she knows my thoughts, and tbh feels the same, try not to be to judgementle please, im asking if someone had any ideas, not for a slagging off But you just said you try not to tell her so how does she know your feelings and your not being slagged off, people are giving their opinions which is what you asked for. ok fair point, she knows my feelings towards him, i just dont see a way out, im lost for ideas, was hoping for some advise, but i fear the poster who said the child will always come first is right Children will and should always come first, not sure why you seem surprised by this. im not, but do you have any ideas what i should do?" We've given you advise, good advise but you choose not to accept it. | |||
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"Speaking as someone who doesn't have kids, I can understand that you may feel that way about him. Let's be honest, other people's kids can be a nightmare (not all!) But I think you need to think this through properly. No parent wants to hear their kids being critisized, even if they slag them off! Secondly, the kids came before you. You must have accepted that they came as a package, and were happy to embark upon the relationship You can't pick and choose which kids you want in your life. What I would do is accept his feelings, explain how you feel to your partner (or show her this thread!) and maybe not spend as much time in his company. Good luck " thank you for your messured response, unlike alot on here, she will see this as we have a joint account, and if shit hits the fan then its mine to deal with, but atm its becoming a deal breaker as i dont want to go to her house, and that would be a real shame as i love her other kids | |||
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" if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best Not my idea of good parenting. " or mine. Hope he doesn't have kid's | |||
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"He's just protective over his mum. And very much this, most likely " ok fair point, but not usefull, where do i go freon here? be useful not negative please | |||
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"He's just protective over his mum. And very much this, most likely ok fair point, but not usefull, where do i go freon here? be useful not negative please" How is the above comment negative? | |||
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"He's just protective over his mum. And very much this, most likely ok fair point, but not usefull, where do i go freon here? be useful not negative please" Being protective over his mum is a negative. Surely it's a positive. | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that" What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want? | |||
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"He's just protective over his mum. And very much this, most likely ok fair point, but not usefull, where do i go freon here? be useful not negative please How is the above comment negative?" My thoughts exactly | |||
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"Speaking as someone who doesn't have kids, I can understand that you may feel that way about him. Let's be honest, other people's kids can be a nightmare (not all!) But I think you need to think this through properly. No parent wants to hear their kids being critisized, even if they slag them off! Secondly, the kids came before you. You must have accepted that they came as a package, and were happy to embark upon the relationship You can't pick and choose which kids you want in your life. What I would do is accept his feelings, explain how you feel to your partner (or show her this thread!) and maybe not spend as much time in his company. Good luck thank you for your messured response, unlike alot on here, she will see this as we have a joint account, and if shit hits the fan then its mine to deal with, but atm its becoming a deal breaker as i dont want to go to her house, and that would be a real shame as i love her other kids" To be fair, OP, all the responses have been measured. I'm just seeing it from a different perspective, as I'm not a mother. Can I assume that you don't have kids yourself? I'm wondering what's changed to make it so unbeatable, after 2 years? I hope you can work it out, but it seems to me that you're looking for validation to beat the woman round the head with her son. As has been said, mum's will put their kids first, if you can't accept this, then I think you have to rethink your part in the relationship. Good luck | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want?" The advice that he wants to hear Lorna from the people who agree with him | |||
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"atm its becoming a deal breaker as i dont want to go to her house, " Could she come to your house ? | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him" Quote- "I love her, but hate the child" ^^^^^^^ He's picked up on your vibe that you "hate" him. He's not a child by the way & I reckon you treat him like one. Don't forget you're the outsider not him. Can't be easy on him either when you visit & I'm assuming stay overnight in his Moms bed. I get the feeling you clash too with this young Man. Can't his Mom go to yours instead? & keep it totally separate. That would be the best option. | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want? The advice that he wants to hear Lorna from the people who agree with him " how about some helpfull stuff????????????? rather than just bitching about me, i asked a serious question and all you can do is type bitchy replies, shame on you | |||
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"Step back... he's an adult and not your responsibility. i agree, but hes getting in the way of our relationship" Having read through further responses, I stand by my original one. He isn't getting in the way of your relationship. The man is her son, so from his perspective, you're getting in the way of his relationship with his mother. It's important that you respect that and don't get involved in their relationship. Be the better man, don't rise to the bait, don't let him get to you etc. | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want?" I think what he wants to hear is The kids lazy needs sliped around the lugs kicked out the house and told not to come back Obviously that’s all wrong What he should want to do is be there for the mom It’s not his place to step in But it is his place to be a shoulder for her to cry on and console and listen to her problems when she wants to vent about it | |||
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"Step back... he's an adult and not your responsibility. i agree, but hes getting in the way of our relationship Having read through further responses, I stand by my original one. He isn't getting in the way of your relationship. The man is her son, so from his perspective, you're getting in the way of his relationship with his mother. It's important that you respect that and don't get involved in their relationship. Be the better man, don't rise to the bait, don't let him get to you etc. " Posted by Nita BTW... | |||
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"im in a relasionship with a lovely woman, however ive spent a few days at her houe, and the oldest child is really not taking to me for some raeson, he had a right go at me the other day, child in question is 21, never had a job, does pay a small anount of rent but doesnt so anything in the house, how do i go about this, if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best, but hes not mine, and its driving a wedge between us?" You're probably making the wedge yourself | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want? The advice that he wants to hear Lorna from the people who agree with him how about some helpfull stuff????????????? rather than just bitching about me, i asked a serious question and all you can do is type bitchy replies, shame on you" Honestly, OP. No one is being bitchy, we're giving you want you asked for: advice. Bloody good advice from ladies very well in a similar situation to your partner. I'm starting to see the real problem here OP - must everyone agree with, and pander to, you? 'cos you know in life, we ALL have to make allowances..... | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want? The advice that he wants to hear Lorna from the people who agree with him how about some helpfull stuff????????????? rather than just bitching about me, i asked a serious question and all you can do is type bitchy replies, shame on you" You have been given advice and people have not been bitchy! they have just made it clear they don't like the way you speak about this persons child. Please define what you describe as helpful advice because everything anyone has said hasn't been good enough, so you tell us what you want us to say because that's what you want! | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want? The advice that he wants to hear Lorna from the people who agree with him how about some helpfull stuff????????????? rather than just bitching about me, i asked a serious question and all you can do is type bitchy replies, shame on you" Do you have kids OP? I don't think you do because if you did you'd realise you can't hate one of them and love the other 2 (Your words on this thread). When it comes to your blood your children its really doesn't work like that. We can at times dislike our children's behaviour and current state of personality but we will always love and protect them that is hardwired and primal. KJ | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want? The advice that he wants to hear Lorna from the people who agree with him how about some helpfull stuff????????????? rather than just bitching about me, i asked a serious question and all you can do is type bitchy replies, shame on you" I gave you helpful stuff, as did most others It might not be what you wanted to hear, but if put into action, sincerely and not with contempt, might just help you resolve the issue over time This will not be solved overnight If you think it will, you are pushing an ultimatum, one in which you could very well come second I say this with the best of intentions; 'wind your neck in' ATM you are seeing red, which is never a good position to be in if you're aiming to resolve something | |||
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"Step back... he's an adult and not your responsibility. i agree, but hes getting in the way of our relationship Having read through further responses, I stand by my original one. He isn't getting in the way of your relationship. The man is her son, so from his perspective, you're getting in the way of his relationship with his mother. It's important that you respect that and don't get involved in their relationship. Be the better man, don't rise to the bait, don't let him get to you etc. " thank you for th messured response, and i think you are right, i have tried it but maybe not for long enough, will tri again, again thank you fot you messured response unlike most fofum followers it would seem | |||
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"there has been alot of negative posts on here mainly about me but also others, yes in not perfect, who is, i was asking a question, please stick to that What others? People have been respectful to you, but don't agree with you and of course you're going to get negativity because your post is negative. Most people have suggested you don't do anything and that maybe your attitude towards the lad are the issue. What advice do you want? The advice that he wants to hear Lorna from the people who agree with him how about some helpfull stuff????????????? rather than just bitching about me, i asked a serious question and all you can do is type bitchy replies, shame on you" Wow ok? Where exactly have I been bitchy? Is The name calling necessary? I'm out, you asked for responses, I responded. | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him" Maybe he's picking up on the fact you hate him normal respect him. I don't know. What does the female say, it's her son | |||
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"im in a relasionship with a lovely woman, however ive spent a few days at her houe, and the oldest child is really not taking to me for some raeson, he had a right go at me the other day, child in question is 21, never had a job, does pay a small anount of rent but doesnt so anything in the house, how do i go about this, if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best, but hes not mine, and its driving a wedge between us? How long you been in this lads life?only a couple of years, his dad sadly died in a car crash, we have been together a few yaers, i feel he resents me" If I was you seriously just forget about ever trying to stamp your foot down. There will only be one person loosing and that will be you. Positively encourage him to go out and get a job Eg show him things he can get with the money he will get from working | |||
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"im in a relasionship with a lovely woman, however ive spent a few days at her houe, and the oldest child is really not taking to me for some raeson, he had a right go at me the other day, child in question is 21, never had a job, does pay a small anount of rent but doesnt so anything in the house, how do i go about this, if it was my kid i would give him a slap and ban him from what he likes the best, but hes not mine, and its driving a wedge between us? How long you been in this lads life?only a couple of years, his dad sadly died in a car crash, we have been together a few yaers, i feel he resents me" He probably does resent you being that he lost his father a few years ago. I would be a mess if I lost my parent at my current age let alone at 21! I mean you are an adult on a swinging site sagging him off so he may pick up on the resentment you seem to have for him. Or feels you are trying to come between his mum and him. Put yourself in his shoes. | |||
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"Does make me eye roll how many people are saying "he's a grown man, he's an adult" How many of the same people also speak of 21 year olds on here as immature, that they lack life experience etc? How many of you can accept that at 30, at 40, at 50 you look back at your 21 year old self and think you were more mature than your 16 year old self but actually waaaay less "grown adulty" than you are now? My son is 21 soon. Do I look at him and think "look at my adult son?" Nope, I think "yep, he's GROWING into a decent young man" " Absolutely agree. My eldest is 27 and only just accepting that he is in fact an adult But age of the son is irrelevant, he does not deserve the level of abuse he received last night. | |||
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"Does make me eye roll how many people are saying "he's a grown man, he's an adult" How many of the same people also speak of 21 year olds on here as immature, that they lack life experience etc? How many of you can accept that at 30, at 40, at 50 you look back at your 21 year old self and think you were more mature than your 16 year old self but actually waaaay less "grown adulty" than you are now? My son is 21 soon. Do I look at him and think "look at my adult son?" Nope, I think "yep, he's GROWING into a decent young man" Absolutely agree. My eldest is 27 and only just accepting that he is in fact an adult But age of the son is irrelevant, he does not deserve the level of abuse he received last night." 100% I'm properly disgusted and still pretty shocked by it. I woke up still snarling | |||
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"Does make me eye roll how many people are saying "he's a grown man, he's an adult" How many of the same people also speak of 21 year olds on here as immature, that they lack life experience etc? How many of you can accept that at 30, at 40, at 50 you look back at your 21 year old self and think you were more mature than your 16 year old self but actually waaaay less "grown adulty" than you are now? My son is 21 soon. Do I look at him and think "look at my adult son?" Nope, I think "yep, he's GROWING into a decent young man" Absolutely agree. My eldest is 27 and only just accepting that he is in fact an adult But age of the son is irrelevant, he does not deserve the level of abuse he received last night. 100% I'm properly disgusted and still pretty shocked by it. I woke up still snarling Me too, the one thing you never do is come between a Mum and her Son, and don't do it publicly because other Mums with sons read stuff like that the maternal instinct kicks in and it's like a red rag to a bull. Reminds me of my abusive ex. He would "tell tales" on my lad when I got home from work to cause aggro. I could see it for what it was, the ex wanting to be top dog. The tales he would tell would be playground stuff. He was being noisy. He ate the last of the bread. He used 2 cups instead of one. Well, ya know what fuck face? He would have got more bread if you didn't take the money I left and spent it at the pub. He would have washed up if you didn't critique how he does it. He was probably being noisy yo drown out your droning whinge. I ain't falling into your petty games and attempts at one upmanship and trouble causing. Fuuuuck off." You're just as bad leaving your boy with someone like that R | |||
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"Does make me eye roll how many people are saying "he's a grown man, he's an adult" How many of the same people also speak of 21 year olds on here as immature, that they lack life experience etc? How many of you can accept that at 30, at 40, at 50 you look back at your 21 year old self and think you were more mature than your 16 year old self but actually waaaay less "grown adulty" than you are now? My son is 21 soon. Do I look at him and think "look at my adult son?" Nope, I think "yep, he's GROWING into a decent young man" Absolutely agree. My eldest is 27 and only just accepting that he is in fact an adult But age of the son is irrelevant, he does not deserve the level of abuse he received last night. 100% I'm properly disgusted and still pretty shocked by it. I woke up still snarling Me too, the one thing you never do is come between a Mum and her Son, and don't do it publicly because other Mums with sons read stuff like that the maternal instinct kicks in and it's like a red rag to a bull. Reminds me of my abusive ex. He would "tell tales" on my lad when I got home from work to cause aggro. I could see it for what it was, the ex wanting to be top dog. The tales he would tell would be playground stuff. He was being noisy. He ate the last of the bread. He used 2 cups instead of one. Well, ya know what fuck face? He would have got more bread if you didn't take the money I left and spent it at the pub. He would have washed up if you didn't critique how he does it. He was probably being noisy yo drown out your droning whinge. I ain't falling into your petty games and attempts at one upmanship and trouble causing. Fuuuuck off." | |||
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"hard one and difficult to ban a 21 yr old from anything hes an adult not a child all u can do is try and have a adult 121 chat and bring him round nothing else can be done otherwise that i can see but i expect there will be lots of advice from others thank you for the advise, ive tried that, he says one thing and does the other, im not going to give up on the relathionship, i love her, but hate the child, hes a free loading work shy wanker who does nothing around the house, i have no respect for him I hope your partner doesn't read this... I'd leave you on the spot. " She did. | |||
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