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iTunes users - its not your music

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By *uckscouple2007 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

Interesting article on radio news that in response to Bruce Willis saying he wants to leave his collection of downloads (circa £40k worth) to his daughter ... iTunes are reported to have made a statement that it is not his music to pass on - with iTunes you are simply borrowing the music

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

Got to give them top marks for trying.

Mind you, if you 'borrow' a tune off Apple and then somehow manage to lose it, you have to jump through hoops to get them to 'lend' it to you again without you paying for the privilege !

I fail to see how it is any different to leaving my cd/LP collection to my kids when I die ? Or even me giving a cd to a mate if I don't want it anymore.

Selling an iPod full of tunes, I almost get the principle of but then I've bought cd's in bulk from car boot sales before, so I'm still struggling with the concept a little !

Cue a load of Apple fanboys telling me how it really is !

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

If you have to pay for an iTune then surely you can do what the feck you like with it, I have never paid for anything I have borrowed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Once you have paid for the download its yours. You pay for the licence of the music, you can burn it onto a cd for your car if your wish etc etc.

All my bands music is available for free! Download it, play it and give it to your friends!...lol

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

Who want to pay for the 'lossy', compressed shite you get off iTunes anyway !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who want to pay for the 'lossy', compressed shite you get off iTunes anyway ! "

Agreed.

Most of my stuff comes from CDs anyway, although I hate the amount of compression they use nowadays when mastering a record.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

It's just mastered to sound 'loud' on the radio and at 192kbps mp3's, no dynamics whatsoever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ok, the source, even acknowledged by some US press seems to be that fountain of all dubious knowledge; no, not wiki but The Sun, but this is what their report stated...

BRUCE Willis is preparing to take Apple to court over who owns his huge digital music collection after he dies.

The Die Hard actor, 57, wants to leave the haul to his daughters Rumer, Scout and Tallulah.

But under iTunes' current terms and conditions, customers essentially only 'borrow' tracks rather than owning them outright.

So any music library amassed like that would be worthless when the owner dies.

Willis has asked advisers to set up a trust that holds his downloads, which reportedly include classics from the Beatles to Led Zeppelin, to get around this rule.

The action star is also backing legal moves to increase the rights of downloaders.

Apple can freeze users’ accounts if they suspect them of sharing tunes with others.

Chris Walton, an estate specialist at Irwin Mitchell, told a newspaper: “Lots of people will be surprised on learning all those tracks and books they have bought over the years don’t actually belong to them.

“It’s only natural you would want to pass them on to a loved one.”

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makes me even more glad never took a bite of an Apple

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I wonder if Amazon is the same, as thats where I get most of my downloads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah, the term is 'brickwalled'

This is why I love the sound of vinyl over anything else. Van Halen releases their New record on vinyl along with cd earlier this year. The cd is good but the vinyl is incredible.

I master all our stuff purely to keep an eye on the compression levels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder if Amazon is the same, as thats where I get most of my downloads."

Cheaper to go to isohunt(dot)org and get it for free!...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And this is why I hate Apple with a passion. You couldn't give me an Apple product, you couldn't even pay me to use one. If I buy a CD it's mine and I can leave it to whomever I choose, but Apple seem to think they can take your money and it's just like going to the cinema - if you want it again you have to pay again.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

See Rush - Vapor Trails for the most horribly brick walled album ever, unlistenable !

I often use torrent sites/Rapidshare, even if I own the cd already, it's quicker to download it than it is to grab it off the shelf, put it in the PC, rip it to iTunes, take it out of the PC and stick it back on the shelf

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I wonder if Amazon is the same, as thats where I get most of my downloads.

Cheaper to go to isohunt(dot)org and get it for free!...lol

"

I'm not sure I can participate in such nefarious activities!

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By *uckscouple2007 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bucks


"I'm not sure I can participate in such nefarious activities!"

oi, this isn't the Word Of The Day thread

lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"See Rush - Vapor Trails for the most horribly brick walled album ever, unlistenable !

I often use torrent sites/Rapidshare, even if I own the cd already, it's quicker to download it than it is to grab it off the shelf, put it in the PC, rip it to iTunes, take it out of the PC and stick it back on the shelf "

Technically that's legal!

If you already own a copy of the cd you can, in theory, download it from a torrent site because you already own a licence for that work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who want to pay for the 'lossy', compressed shite you get off iTunes anyway ! "

If you have the CD you can rip it as Lossless ALAC? This format is as good as the CD quality and you can synch and play ALAC on iPods, iPhones etc.

I fear CD has had its day and the future lies in streaming from a centralised repository or NAS.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"Who want to pay for the 'lossy', compressed shite you get off iTunes anyway !

If you have the CD you can rip it as Lossless ALAC? This format is as good as the CD quality and you can synch and play ALAC on iPods, iPhones etc.

I fear CD has had its day and the future lies in streaming from a centralised repository or NAS."

I always rip cd's to a lossless format anyway, just not Apple's lossless format ! If I want to put it onto my iPod, I'll transcode it (as you lose no data transcoding from one lossless format to another).

I play all my music in the house (and out of the house, using Audiogalaxy) from a NAS but until lossless formats become the norm, which I strongly doubt they will, I'll keep buying cd's.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"See Rush - Vapor Trails for the most horribly brick walled album ever, unlistenable !

I often use torrent sites/Rapidshare, even if I own the cd already, it's quicker to download it than it is to grab it off the shelf, put it in the PC, rip it to iTunes, take it out of the PC and stick it back on the shelf

Technically that's legal!

If you already own a copy of the cd you can, in theory, download it from a torrent site because you already own a licence for that work."

I think it's a grey area...mainly because the bugger that uploaded it in the first place was breaking the law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who want to pay for the 'lossy', compressed shite you get off iTunes anyway !

If you have the CD you can rip it as Lossless ALAC? This format is as good as the CD quality and you can synch and play ALAC on iPods, iPhones etc.

I fear CD has had its day and the future lies in streaming from a centralised repository or NAS."

Which.is great for availability but awful for audio quality.

My biggest concern though, will some of the obscure classics vanish forever?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"See Rush - Vapor Trails for the most horribly brick walled album ever, unlistenable !

I often use torrent sites/Rapidshare, even if I own the cd already, it's quicker to download it than it is to grab it off the shelf, put it in the PC, rip it to iTunes, take it out of the PC and stick it back on the shelf

Technically that's legal!

If you already own a copy of the cd you can, in theory, download it from a torrent site because you already own a licence for that work.

I think it's a grey area...mainly because the bugger that uploaded it in the first place was breaking the law "

Then the fault lies with the uploaded, I used that defense a couple of years ago....it worked!...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got to give them top marks for trying.

Mind you, if you 'borrow' a tune off Apple and then somehow manage to lose it, you have to jump through hoops to get them to 'lend' it to you again without you paying for the privilege !

I fail to see how it is any different to leaving my cd/LP collection to my kids when I die ? Or even me giving a cd to a mate if I don't want it anymore.

Selling an iPod full of tunes, I almost get the principle of but then I've bought cd's in bulk from car boot sales before, so I'm still struggling with the concept a little !

Cue a load of Apple fanboys telling me how it really is !"
I use iTunes and own an iPhone 3gs but if the op is right and apple iTunes have put that statement out I'll big Steve blow jobs up and kick him in the balls n say OI NO Cunt !!!!!

* cReEpS rOunD cRyPt * -l-

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got to give them top marks for trying.

Mind you, if you 'borrow' a tune off Apple and then somehow manage to lose it, you have to jump through hoops to get them to 'lend' it to you again without you paying for the privilege !

I fail to see how it is any different to leaving my cd/LP collection to my kids when I die ? Or even me giving a cd to a mate if I don't want it anymore.

Selling an iPod full of tunes, I almost get the principle of but then I've bought cd's in bulk from car boot sales before, so I'm still struggling with the concept a little !

Cue a load of Apple fanboys telling me how it really is ! I use iTunes and own an iPhone 3gs but if the op is right and apple iTunes have put that statement out I'll big Steve blow jobs up and kick him in the balls n say OI NO Cunt !!!!!

* cReEpS rOunD cRyPt * -l-"

I'll carry the shovel!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

before it turns into an apple/itunes hating session... you might want to know this...

in "theory" the same applies to all "electronically owned" material...

all those books you have downloaded onto your kindle via Amazon..... the same rule applies....

anything on a Facebook page......or a twitter account..... exactly the same....

its a grey area because no one has tested the law as such yet.. and the bruce willis case may be one that gets the law defined....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/sep/03/do-you-own-your-digital-content

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why can't he just copy the tracks to an external hard drive then they can help themselves to what they want? It's not rocket science.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why waste money on a download, buy it on shiny black vinyl and you get a download code with it - best of both worlds...

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