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By *ranny-Crumpet OP Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Not just doctors but quite a lot of medical professionals...... G.P.'s , nurses, etc etc ....

I don't seem to hold them in as high an esteem as the vast majority of people.

There seems to be a deification phenomena going on at present - despite me not setting eye on my G.P. or indeed his surgery step...

What's your take on medics ?

( Try not to get so emotionally involved that your blinkers go on and your crap chute disconnects from the close position ) Thanks.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

A lot of my family are in the medical profession. I know they're ordinary people.

As for my GP. I prefer to Google and chat with the pharmacist

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

My doctor is very strange.

He asks me to cup his balls when I cough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dr Strangelove, Dr Doolittle, Dr Death..all wrong uns so you may be onto something. I liked Dr Zhivago though, handsome and kind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are people. Some good, some bad. Their profession is no guarantee of their character.

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

I believe it all comes down to the same thing as all professions: There’s good and bad in all.

I have come across some absolutely amazing and highly professional medical personnel but I also know of one local GP here who really should not be practicing and would probably experience trouble locating his own arse with both hands and a flashlight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know who my Dr is atm...my medical center has just been closed down by the CCG as of today. I Have been allocated to another medical center ..

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

As someone who used to work in the medical profession. I see them as people who do a job, a necessary job but so do the hospital cleaners. I mean the surgeons skills are bugger all use if the theatre is dirty and the patient died of an infection.

We're all but different cogs in a machine in my opinion.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"As someone who used to work in the medical profession. I see them as people who do a job, a necessary job but so do the hospital cleaners. I mean the surgeons skills are bugger all use if the theatre is dirty and the patient died of an infection.

We're all but different cogs in a machine in my opinion. "

I agree with this.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Some folk shouldn’t go into a caring profession when they lack the capacity to care is my thoughts on the matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Come from a family of doctors..

Yes they are very well trained. But they are human beings too. Flawed. Fallible.

There's a real mixed bag when i visit my GP's surgery. Some are pretty bad & don't seem interested, some are great & immediately want to get to the crux of the issue.

I seem to think the system itself isn't a smoothly running machine, which is sometimes adding to people's frustration.

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By *onb21Woman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"There seems to be a deification phenomena going on at present"

It annoys me a bit. Same with soldiers being described as heroes without any nuance.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Some folk shouldn’t go into a caring profession when they lack the capacity to care is my thoughts on the matter.

Yes I agree with that.

Although sometimes you'll get better medical advice from someone who doesn't care in the nurturing sense.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Not just doctors but quite a lot of medical professionals...... G.P.'s , nurses, etc etc ....

I don't seem to hold them in as high an esteem as the vast majority of people.

There seems to be a deification phenomena going on at present - despite me not setting eye on my G.P. or indeed his surgery step...

What's your take on medics ?

( Try not to get so emotionally involved that your blinkers go on and your crap chute disconnects from the close position ) Thanks. "

I’m the same , particularly GP, I use private medical so it’s a little different but a GP is simply someone to write you a prescription or a referral letter, you are better off deciding which prescription or referral you need yourself , it’s your body you know best what you need abd should make those decisions. The way medics are trained they will only offer the solution they are trained to administer , so if you had serious lower back disc problems like I had 20 years ago, a surgeon will offer laser, a pain clinic a life on diazepam but a qigong and decent pt teacher fixed it properly.

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

I phoned my GP surgery today to try to get a consultation with my GP but failed, the reception staff are the most obnoxious awkward rude uncaring people you could imagine. I had a heart attack last year but have had no contact with my GP since

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some folk shouldn’t go into a caring profession when they lack the capacity to care is my thoughts on the matter.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Some folk shouldn’t go into a caring profession when they lack the capacity to care is my thoughts on the matter.

I agree with this too. Me for one. I might save you from drowning but i'm sure as hell the last person you'd want to administer any compassion or kindness as you recovered. That's for doctors, nurses and 'nice folk' ....

I am kind - just not sickly sweet n smiley. I'd likely tell you to fuck off if you kept ringing the bell.

I find the system too large, too delapidated.. I'm old enough to remember local hospitals.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Over the last ten years I've dealt with a lot of medical people concerning my parents.

I've learned several things.

The medics you see on telly are exceptions rather than the rule.

Some are excellent at their job, others aren't.

Hospitals would collapse without HCAs.

If a relative is in hospital you need to ensure you're there as much as possible because the staff don't have time to do things like make sure a person has d*unk enough or is able to reach their food

Without the NHS and the people within it we would be well and truly up the creek

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By * WillisMan
over a year ago

London

"Not just doctors but quite a lot of medical professionals...... G.P.'s , nurses, etc etc ....

I don't seem to hold them in as high an esteem as the vast majority of people.

There seems to be a deification phenomena going on at present - despite me not setting eye on my G.P. or indeed his surgery step...

What's your take on medics ?

( Try not to get so emotionally involved that your blinkers go on and your crap chute disconnects from the close position ) Thanks. "

Why would you need gp’s anymore when we can google…self diagnose and go ask the Facebook specialists?

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By * WillisMan
over a year ago

London

I mean there were so many specialists on Covid on fb

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont overly respect them, it is earned.

I appreciate anyone who is good at what they do. I appreciate the dedication and sacrifice so many made, and continue to make working in a chronically underfunded NHS.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

"Why would you need gp’s anymore when we can google…self diagnose and go ask the Facebook specialists?

Because they are trained gatekeepers who can authorise access to services via referral and prescribe medicines.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Not just doctors but quite a lot of medical professionals...... G.P.'s , nurses, etc etc ....

I don't seem to hold them in as high an esteem as the vast majority of people.

There seems to be a deification phenomena going on at present - despite me not setting eye on my G.P. or indeed his surgery step...

What's your take on medics ?

( Try not to get so emotionally involved that your blinkers go on and your crap chute disconnects from the close position ) Thanks.

Why would you need gp’s anymore when we can google…self diagnose and go ask the Facebook specialists?

You just ask in here! Obvs !

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Why would you need gp’s anymore when we can google…self diagnose and go ask the Facebook specialists?

Because they are trained gatekeepers who can authorise access to services via referral and prescribe medicines. "

They gatekeep way too much ......

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Not just doctors but quite a lot of medical professionals...... G.P.'s , nurses, etc etc ....

I don't seem to hold them in as high an esteem as the vast majority of people.

There seems to be a deification phenomena going on at present - despite me not setting eye on my G.P. or indeed his surgery step...

What's your take on medics ?

( Try not to get so emotionally involved that your blinkers go on and your crap chute disconnects from the close position ) Thanks. "

100% agree. But we aren't allowed for some reason to criticise or suggest it may be better. Some are very good. Some are really crap. Some geographic areas are good. Some are really crap.

The system they work in is often poor. Which doesn't help. And yet we clap for it because its notionally "free" and because some are genuine heroes. There's a lot that is very mediocre that we tolerate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to have an amazing GP, she was compassionate, caring and actually listened. She gave a shit. My GP here is not a bad person but he is old fashioned and does not take the time to listen. He throws pills at everything, gives you an answer before you've even finished telling him the problem and stops at the first hurdle. He won't investigate anything further than a blood test, the results of that are the be all and end all.

I have a massive amount of respect for the NHS but as with everything, there are definitely some that let the side down.

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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago

wirral

I do my job because I genuinely want to help people as do the vast majority of us.

I didn't agree with the nurses who made a big drama over covid queue jumping etc, that's their job...theu signed up for this kind of thing. The supermarket workers and bin men etc were my pandemic heroes they faced it with no PPE or protection at first.

I do agree the system and the way money is used needs to be reassessed...we shouldn't have charities funding research and then NICE deciding what treatments people can have and if giving patients an extra few months of life is worth the cost...we shouldn't have a finite number of slots of life saving equipment.

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By *AURA6969TV/TS
over a year ago

RUGBY

"My doctor is very strange.

He asks me to cup his balls when I cough

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And what's the problem? I was in seeing a nurse who said that I have to stop masterbating I said why to which she replied because I'm trying to examine you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to say my GP practice is perfectly good. I get appointments when I need them and my usual GP is an amiable man who you can kick something around with and then reach a consensus on treatment.

However, I have encountered the odd surgeon who has given the impression that he should be treated as a deity. The worst encounter was with an orthopaedic surgeon who was the most arrogant SoB I've probably ever encountered, but then they are essentially frustrated carpenters.

Having gone out drinking with medics at uni, I don't think this is the norm and one cannot draw any concrete conclusions. For example, the flip side to this experience is a consultation with a surgeon. The two of us got on like a house on fire, and I was invited out to dinner with him and his wife. Anaesthetists are generally piss artists in my experience and good to be around.

I don't think this is an issue confined to medics, though some do lack even a half-decent bedside manner. It would be unfair to generalise and it very much depends on the individual. I have come across other professionals, for example (but not limited to) lawyers, where I think their ego made them less than user-friendly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I'm lucky if I can even get a ringtone before 10am at my GP's, who are these people that get through at 8am, do they have a magic phone or something

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just see them as normal people, the ones I deal with on a daily basis for the most part are great at what the do. Some, not so much, but that's people I guess.

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By *torm in a G cupWoman
over a year ago

Land of the Long White Cloud

I am a nurse and have lots of great colleagues. Sadly there are medical and nursing professionals I know whom I would not trust to look after any of my family members or friends. For some it is based on their manner and for others it is a lack of confidence in their ability and knowledge.

I suppose the same could be said about a lot of different professions really.

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By *ragoniteMan
over a year ago

Cheshire

I think the blanket deification of healthcare professionals is absurd, as is the blanket vilification of them. According to which way the wind blows (aka political agenda) the media will swing from one to the other.

I think people who choose a career in caring professions do so because they are genuinely caring people. However working in a system that doesn’t make them feel valued, that is under-resourced and tied up in red-tape and that only allows them to do their jobs “just well enough” at best when they know they could do them a lot better, leads to burn-out and cynicism.

As stated by many on this thread, HCPs are human. They see horrible things that no other humans see regularly apart from emergency services and the military. It is no surprise that there are high rates of addiction and depression.

There are good and bad HCPs as there are good and bad anythings. The “bad” ones may just be twats but they may well be burnt-out and fighting their demons. Not saying that we should tolerate this but the solution is to improve working conditions and improve support for those under-performing for various reasons.

Decent pay, decent hours and most importantly feeling valued are the key. Clapping, hero stories etc are unhelpful. Stories of doctors always on the golf course and in Bentleys, ot nurses in sex clubs (!) in the Daily Fail are also unhelpful.

(declaration of interest - HCP myself but also a patient and relative of patients)

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

From my experience of working with Doctors, they can be either some of the best people you have ever met who sacrifice a lot of their personal life to helping their patients or incredibly unpleasant, rude, arrogant, self serving arseholes. I guess it's like with any profession, you get good and bad. The majority however are very dedicated to their job and their patients.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Within the space of the last week for me, staggeringly incompetent GP surgery service led to a hospital stay, where they were incredible, the efficiency of the hospital was unbelievable, and the level of care was brilliant.

I think it depends where you are, and who you see, but regardless, the NHS is an amazing facility, and when it works, it’s fantastic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not just doctors but quite a lot of medical professionals...... G.P.'s , nurses, etc etc ....

I don't seem to hold them in as high an esteem as the vast majority of people.

There seems to be a deification phenomena going on at present - despite me not setting eye on my G.P. or indeed his surgery step...

What's your take on medics ?

( Try not to get so emotionally involved that your blinkers go on and your crap chute disconnects from the close position ) Thanks.

I agree with this.. I think PT and other specialists are worth their weight in gold

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not unique to the UK either; my son got injured during a game on a rugby tour in Italy a couple of years back.

After being in the A&E (exceptional by the way) a little over an hour, they put him in a bed on a ward for the night. Not because of efficient hospital and patient managment, no, ...but because his dad (a few Moretti's to the good) was flirting with one of the hot nurses and she had us moved away!! How rude!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

like others have said good and bad everywhere previous doctor was great told me things straight gave me kick up the ass to lose weight and sort my health out

he left and new doc is rude and a bit of a cock really maybe i just saw him on a bad day haha

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Everyone is human... And makes mistakes. But this isn't a new health service and it's not unreasonable to expect a system that catches most errors as they are made.

Unavoidable mistakes are... Well by definition unavoidable..for me the avoidable mistakes and misdiagnosis should not be accepted or tolerated. And for some reason we accept them because the nhs is a miracle isn't it?! No... Avoidable mistakes are not acceptable.

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