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"It’s all a big scam in my opinion It’s basically motivational speaking with no actions behind it. Stuff like “You’ve gotta have the courage to go out there and execute. You’ve gotta believe in yourself, value your skills, and move forward” And I’m like ok… great…. So what’s the plan? I’ve got no skills, I can’t believe myself into a good job. I’ve got the courage to apply. I won’t pass the interview though. You talk about execute…. Execute what? Just my opinion " It’s about deciding on the best plan to reach your goals.. not just saying “go get them” … making the plan achievable based on individual circumstances… it works … as long as the end goal is achievable and not too aspirational | |||
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"It’s all a big scam in my opinion It’s basically motivational speaking with no actions behind it. Stuff like “You’ve gotta have the courage to go out there and execute. You’ve gotta believe in yourself, value your skills, and move forward” And I’m like ok… great…. So what’s the plan? I’ve got no skills, I can’t believe myself into a good job. I’ve got the courage to apply. I won’t pass the interview though. You talk about execute…. Execute what? Just my opinion It’s about deciding on the best plan to reach your goals.. not just saying “go get them” … making the plan achievable based on individual circumstances… it works … as long as the end goal is achievable and not too aspirational " I was just about to say I don't understand what it actually is but this helped explain. Thank you | |||
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"It’s all a big scam in my opinion It’s basically motivational speaking with no actions behind it. Stuff like “You’ve gotta have the courage to go out there and execute. You’ve gotta believe in yourself, value your skills, and move forward” And I’m like ok… great…. So what’s the plan? I’ve got no skills, I can’t believe myself into a good job. I’ve got the courage to apply. I won’t pass the interview though. You talk about execute…. Execute what? Just my opinion " That’s exactly what it isn’t lol It’s more Psychological work helping the client build new pathways of thinking and helping them to break any mental barriers they may have in their life that are stopping them from moving forward in certain areas. Having been a client before I became a coach I can attest to how powerful this line of work can be. | |||
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"It’s all a big scam in my opinion It’s basically motivational speaking with no actions behind it. Stuff like “You’ve gotta have the courage to go out there and execute. You’ve gotta believe in yourself, value your skills, and move forward” And I’m like ok… great…. So what’s the plan? I’ve got no skills, I can’t believe myself into a good job. I’ve got the courage to apply. I won’t pass the interview though. You talk about execute…. Execute what? Just my opinion It’s about deciding on the best plan to reach your goals.. not just saying “go get them” … making the plan achievable based on individual circumstances… it works … as long as the end goal is achievable and not too aspirational I was just about to say I don't understand what it actually is but this helped explain. Thank you " I think perhaps you might be confusing someone who supports mental health and a motivational speaker. Also aren't these type of speakers just urban myth (or Americans) last time I saw something like it was when David Brent sang Simply the Best. I think we should let the OP explain. | |||
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"I've used a coach before and it was so helpful to challenge my mindset and move forward - business related. I would do it again. " This is definitely where I see it being useful, just like people benefit from mentors | |||
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"It’s all a big scam in my opinion It’s basically motivational speaking with no actions behind it. Stuff like “You’ve gotta have the courage to go out there and execute. You’ve gotta believe in yourself, value your skills, and move forward” And I’m like ok… great…. So what’s the plan? I’ve got no skills, I can’t believe myself into a good job. I’ve got the courage to apply. I won’t pass the interview though. You talk about execute…. Execute what? Just my opinion That’s exactly what it isn’t lol It’s more Psychological work helping the client build new pathways of thinking and helping them to break any mental barriers they may have in their life that are stopping them from moving forward in certain areas. Having been a client before I became a coach I can attest to how powerful this line of work can be. " Thaf just sounds the same to me though. Trying to fix mental barriers instead of actual barriers. Like telling someone without an education that they have mental barrier they need help breaking through, and you can do that for the low cost of £50 a session Nah maybe they need an education first | |||
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"I will qualify as a Transformational Coach by the end of the year. A new path for me to enable me to serve others consistently and improve people’s lives. What does everyone think about this kind of stuff? Personally I think the market will only get bigger as the years go by. People looking to take care of their mental well-being ever more. " I’ve been coached for the last 30 years by two very successful leaders (one business, one spiritual) and have myself coached and mentored aspiring female CFOs in Africa and Roma teen boys and young men for about 15 years. To me the a coach / mentors life is the only requirement of credibility , yes there are certain skills that are useful like encouraging the difficult conversations , but they are secondary to things like character and integrity. Same with PTs. | |||
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"Not sure it’s the growth are you think it might be… yet. It’s very misunderstood. As the UK continues its decline towards the American way of “you’re on your own” I can see it getting bigger. However, mental health is rightfully now getting the attention it deserves so I can see counselling growing rapidly, especially as the NHS embraces it but doesn’t have the budget or resources to fully support it. But that’s a different area." Agreed. Counselling can be hugely important and hugely beneficial for people facing life challenges (circumstances, trauma, illness etc ) Life coaching, as I have encountered it ... 90 per cent of this ground should be covered by having experienced highly trained managers and mentors. And a good chunk of the rest should be covered by people having initiative and being resourceful. When I need assistance it is usually very specific information needs / advice re an industry or market rather than not being able to figure out what to do. On my most recent career change, I spoke extensively with several members of my family, all of whom had different work backgrounds and experiences, and all helped me to clarify my thought process in one way or another. The benefit of this is that my family will tell me I’m talking shit if they think I’m talking shit, whereas a paid life coach won’t. | |||
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"I read lots of PMA books when I was in my twenties (I didn't even know they existed until a girl friend was training to be an insurance sales person). I believed they helped changed my life, from being a useless kid at school, and a negative home environment. I realised that I could do stuff if I really wanted to. I ended up a Supermarket manager before I was 25, winning Motorsport events and have had my own business for almost 30 years. I'm sure this may not have happened otherwise. When I'm feeling life isn't going well I go to motivational courses and have used coaches in the past. I wish the Op all the best and if he manages to change or improve one persons life then its worthwhile. " You likely just matured, it happens to men in their twenties or thirties usually, the PMA was a coincidence or maybe your interest in it was a sign you were maturing . PMA is teaching people to lie to themselves about reality and pretend that they feel differently. One the most critical things to moving forward is to observe reality very accurately and PMA does the complete opposite. Extensive studies show that long term, positive thinking techniques do absolutely nothing in terms of changing outcomes. | |||
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"I read lots of PMA books when I was in my twenties (I didn't even know they existed until a girl friend was training to be an insurance sales person). I believed they helped changed my life, from being a useless kid at school, and a negative home environment. I realised that I could do stuff if I really wanted to. I ended up a Supermarket manager before I was 25, winning Motorsport events and have had my own business for almost 30 years. I'm sure this may not have happened otherwise. When I'm feeling life isn't going well I go to motivational courses and have used coaches in the past. I wish the Op all the best and if he manages to change or improve one persons life then its worthwhile. You likely just matured, it happens to men in their twenties or thirties usually, the PMA was a coincidence or maybe your interest in it was a sign you were maturing . PMA is teaching people to lie to themselves about reality and pretend that they feel differently. One the most critical things to moving forward is to observe reality very accurately and PMA does the complete opposite. Extensive studies show that long term, positive thinking techniques do absolutely nothing in terms of changing outcomes. " That's actually an interesting idea. I've always seen self belief as a starting point for pushing on to new things but maybe it's self awareness. "I can do this" isn't an optimistic statement, it's a realistic assessment. Mr | |||
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"I will qualify as a Transformational Coach by the end of the year. A new path for me to enable me to serve others consistently and improve people’s lives. What does everyone think about this kind of stuff? Personally I think the market will only get bigger as the years go by. People looking to take care of their mental well-being ever more. " | |||
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"I read lots of PMA books when I was in my twenties (I didn't even know they existed until a girl friend was training to be an insurance sales person). I believed they helped changed my life, from being a useless kid at school, and a negative home environment. I realised that I could do stuff if I really wanted to. I ended up a Supermarket manager before I was 25, winning Motorsport events and have had my own business for almost 30 years. I'm sure this may not have happened otherwise. When I'm feeling life isn't going well I go to motivational courses and have used coaches in the past. I wish the Op all the best and if he manages to change or improve one persons life then its worthwhile. You likely just matured, it happens to men in their twenties or thirties usually, the PMA was a coincidence or maybe your interest in it was a sign you were maturing . PMA is teaching people to lie to themselves about reality and pretend that they feel differently. One the most critical things to moving forward is to observe reality very accurately and PMA does the complete opposite. Extensive studies show that long term, positive thinking techniques do absolutely nothing in terms of changing outcomes. " It is an interesting thought but I still disagree. I honestly was a young guy, not many friends at school, shy, no confidence etc. At first I thought I couldn't do these things but I think the books helped plus also growing up and maturing played its part also. Even know, the confidence I have in going out as Alex etc, a part of it comes from those books. | |||
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"I will qualify as a Transformational Coach by the end of the year. A new path for me to enable me to serve others consistently and improve people’s lives. What does everyone think about this kind of stuff? Personally I think the market will only get bigger as the years go by. People looking to take care of their mental well-being ever more. " Good luck. I agree there is a huge need for people with mental health issues who need help. Complementary therapists can't help everyone, but anything that takes pressure off the NHS and helps people is a good thing. | |||
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