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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that? "Just the way it is and always has been, blokes and couples want women they don't care if they are cheating it is one of the biggest hypocrisies of the swinging scene. Many will deny it but if it was the case of meeting married or not it would be conveniently ignored in my experience | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that?
Just the way it is and always has been, blokes and couples want women they don't care if they are cheating it is one of the biggest hypocrisies of the swinging scene. Many will deny it but if it was the case of meeting married or not it would be conveniently ignored in my experience"You are so right and, please I'm not being condescending, thank you for posting what you have. I personally don't mind anybody cheating, that's their personal choice, but when those women comment or decry men what bare doing the same then that's when I think they're hypocrites.....and there's several serial women posters on here. | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that?
Just the way it is and always has been, blokes and couples want women they don't care if they are cheating it is one of the biggest hypocrisies of the swinging scene. Many will deny it but if it was the case of meeting married or not it would be conveniently ignored in my experience
You are so right and, please I'm not being condescending, thank you for posting what you have.
I personally don't mind anybody cheating, that's their personal choice, but when those women comment or decry men what bare doing the same then that's when I think they're hypocrites.....and there's several serial women posters on here."It is the way of swinging and the way of the forum - married men - pitchforks and noose to hang them. Women well nobody would say a dickie bird. Pure hypocrisy and many on the scene are guilty of it. But as said it is they way it is and will not change anytime soon. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. " Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man | |||
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"I'm married (to Mr KC) and I have a pass for one particular guy. Otherwise, we discuss and agree everything. Is it an issue that I have a "pass" most Thursday evenings and possibly weekends when we play away matches?!" With all due respect I don't understand | |||
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"I'm married (to Mr KC) and I have a pass for one particular guy. Otherwise, we discuss and agree everything. Is it an issue that I have a "pass" most Thursday evenings and possibly weekends when we play away matches?! With all due respect I don't understand" I'm married. I have a "pass", as alluded to in the OP. Is that an issue? The OP seemed to refer to married women across the board. Or do you mean those who claim to be single and who are cheating? We had people on here the other day saying all couples, here with each other's consent, were committing adultery, so...... | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man" I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. " Possibly but there's a lot of hidden married women on here, certainly a particularly women who was very active today! | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. Possibly but there's a lot of hidden married women on here, certainly a particularly women who was very active today!" There are but it is nobody else's business but theirs and if they are open and honest with the ones they may potential see then it is for them to decide not the forum judiciary. My views are on the attitude and the hypocrisy of people when it come to vilifying or acceptance based on gender. Not the individuals and I disagree fervently with berating person it is their business no one else's | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. Possibly but there's a lot of hidden married women on here, certainly a particularly women who was very active today!" Ahh thought this was probably one of those let’s slyly have a dig at someone on the forums threads. It obviously is
Also why do you care? women probably don’t get as much abuse because you rarely see threads from married women seeking validation on here like you do from men. That could be the reason. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. Possibly but there's a lot of hidden married women on here, certainly a particularly women who was very active today! Ahh thought this was probably one of those let’s slyly have a dig at someone on the forums threads. It obviously is
Also why do you care? women probably don’t get as much abuse because you rarely see threads from married women seeking validation on here like you do from men. That could be the reason. "I didn't notice the dig at someone off the forum....not cool at all! I don't know how I missed it...except I'm typing with 1 eye shut. I think it's bed time. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. Possibly but there's a lot of hidden married women on here, certainly a particularly women who was very active today!" Did you get turned down by her? Why does it bother you so much? | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that? "Because we have run out of wood for the ducking stool. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. Possibly but there's a lot of hidden married women on here, certainly a particularly women who was very active today!" Ah, see now it feels like you don't necessarily have an issue with cheating women in general, but actually with one in particular. | |||
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"not from us they dont, we wont meet cheats, men or women, as bad as each other" I'm so pleased that feel that way because then maybe Fab will become equal | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that? "They don't men are just way past the point of forgiveness, a spoonful of medicine it seems. No one should be cheating regardless. | |||
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"not from us they dont, we wont meet cheats, men or women, as bad as each other I'm so pleased that feel that way because then maybe Fab will become equal" Personally I think fab has always been equal, Just don’t be needy or entitled or weak and not fun. Bring the bitches to heal..  | |||
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"Could it be because less men are concerned about sleeping with married women than other way round ? " Hammer... Meet nail.. Absolutely.. | |||
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"From our experience on here there are definitely more cheating men than women, though they are just as bad as each other. If your sex life has died at home and you cherish that more than your relationship, family etc then be honest with your partner or move on. It's funny how the "honest" one's get praise on here for admitting it. Seriously...they are hardly going to honest and have respect for randomers on here if they don't even have that for their own partners! " Do you think it's always that simple...maybe there is illness either mental or physical. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. " This and the married women aren't too fussed about getting understanding or pity for their situation. When have we ever seen a thread from a woman moaning of the lack of sex she gets from her husband, yet we get at least 3 a week from guys. The ladies tend to just get on with it without the desire for pity and understanding from others. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. This and the married women aren't too fussed about getting understanding or pity for their situation. When have we ever seen a thread from a woman moaning of the lack of sex she gets from her husband, yet we get at least 3 a week from guys. The ladies tend to just get on with it without the desire for pity and understanding from others. " Think your low balling that number with 3 ? Everyday blokes on here complaining god bless them | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. This and the married women aren't too fussed about getting understanding or pity for their situation. When have we ever seen a thread from a woman moaning of the lack of sex she gets from her husband, yet we get at least 3 a week from guys. The ladies tend to just get on with it without the desire for pity and understanding from others. Think your low balling that number with 3 ? Everyday blokes on here complaining god bless them "Well I was trying to be a little polite | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. This and the married women aren't too fussed about getting understanding or pity for their situation. When have we ever seen a thread from a woman moaning of the lack of sex she gets from her husband, yet we get at least 3 a week from guys. The ladies tend to just get on with it without the desire for pity and understanding from others. Think your low balling that number with 3 ? Everyday blokes on here complaining god bless them
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"Women cheat because they are getting no love or affection at home. They are hugged and looked after because women are lovely and their husbands are terrible men. Men cheat because they are moaning sleazy horndogs who will fuck anything with a hole. They don't deserve sympathy. Their innocent wifes are at home doing laundry." Your joking right ? | |||
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"Because a woman generally is already having extramarital sex so doesn't have to be vocal about it, where as the married men still have to compete with everyone else on here and will be vocal about the lack of attention " xx | |||
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"Any married ladies want my penis pm me "There’s another thread on fire ! The poor lad can’t keep his misses happy tell him ur happy to oblige | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that? "When a woman does it she’s being naughty, when a man does it he’s a terrible shit. Those are just the rules. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. Possibly but there's a lot of hidden married women on here, certainly a particularly women who was very active today! Ahh thought this was probably one of those let’s slyly have a dig at someone on the forums threads. It obviously is
Also why do you care? women probably don’t get as much abuse because you rarely see threads from married women seeking validation on here like you do from men. That could be the reason. "Absolutely not, in my Fab experience any man who even intimates that he is "secretly" married is pounced upon and vilified whereas women get a "pass", I can even remember a thread where the women who posted it was given "sympathy" with posts such as "well, he deserves it" or "it's his own fault" or "your gorgeous, he should have paid you more attention", all by women...never seen that sort of response for a man. | |||
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"Women cheat because they are getting no love or affection at home. They are hugged and looked after because women are lovely and their husbands are terrible men. Men cheat because they are moaning sleazy horndogs who will fuck anything with a hole. They don't deserve sympathy. Their innocent wifes are at home doing laundry. Your joking right ? " I bet she isnt | |||
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"Women cheat because they are getting no love or affection at home. They are hugged and looked after because women are lovely and their husbands are terrible men. Men cheat because they are moaning sleazy horndogs who will fuck anything with a hole. They don't deserve sympathy. Their innocent wifes are at home doing laundry." | |||
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"Women cheat because they are getting no love or affection at home. They are hugged and looked after because women are lovely and their husbands are terrible men. Men cheat because they are moaning sleazy horndogs who will fuck anything with a hole. They don't deserve sympathy. Their innocent wifes are at home doing laundry. Your joking right ? I bet she isnt "I’m waiting to hear the reply !? If that’s anything to go by it’s worth staying awake | |||
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"I have the same opinion of married cheating women, as that of married cheating men. Makes no difference which sex they are. " How refreshing
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that? "I get what you mean op. There appear to be 3 or 4 distinct trains of thought on fab. 1) Cheating is cheating - man or woman - whatever the circumstances - and therefore to be avoided. 2) As above - but with more leniency should the person be particularly hot! 3) Cheating is cheating - but as long as the drama isn’t brought into the meet - that’s fine! A lot of fabbers seem to follow the above philosophy. 4) Many men seem (inexplicably imo) to find it particularly ‘hot’ and ‘naughty’ to fuck another man’s wife - whether as a ‘hot-wife’ with her partner’s consent (which is obviously fine) or - even more so for many - if the husband is oblivious. In his mind - as the woman has chosen to meet with him then he must be superior/more alpha than her husband. Clearly there are a lot of sad men out there who need their ego stroking. With women - though some will meet men who are ‘playing away’ - I very much doubt they derive pleasure from the deceit - they just don’t care to think about it. With regard to the way cheating men and women are perceived on here - I accept that more excuses seem to be made for cheating females - though the women of fab are far less likely, I think, to start or contribute to threads trying to justify their decision to cheat on their partner. Perhaps that’s why they’re not given such a hard time? I’ve seen many, many threads from guys trying to justify why they’re playing away. They obviously don’t go well. In 7 years I’ve seen one from a woman. | |||
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"Women cheat because they are getting no love or affection at home. They are hugged and looked after because women are lovely and their husbands are terrible men. Men cheat because they are moaning sleazy horndogs who will fuck anything with a hole. They don't deserve sympathy. Their innocent wifes are at home doing laundry." Those innocent ones are on here and being fked by the non-moaning 'single' guys too.... | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that?
I get what you mean op.
There appear to be 3 or 4 distinct trains of thought on fab.
1) Cheating is cheating - man or woman - whatever the circumstances - and therefore to be avoided.
2) As above - but with more leniency should the person be particularly hot!
3) Cheating is cheating - but as long as the drama isn’t brought into the meet - that’s fine!
A lot of fabbers seem to follow the above philosophy.
4) Many men seem (inexplicably imo) to find it particularly ‘hot’ and ‘naughty’ to fuck another man’s wife - whether as a ‘hot-wife’ with her partner’s consent (which is obviously fine) or - even more so for many - if the husband is oblivious. In his mind - as the woman has chosen to meet with him then he must be superior/more alpha than her husband.
Clearly there are a lot of sad men out there who need their ego stroking.
With women - though some will meet men who are ‘playing away’ - I very much doubt they derive pleasure from the deceit - they just don’t care to think about it.
With regard to the way cheating men and women are perceived on here - I accept that more excuses seem to be made for cheating females - though the women of fab are far less likely, I think, to start or contribute to threads trying to justify their decision to cheat on their partner. Perhaps that’s why they’re not given such a hard time?
I’ve seen many, many threads from guys trying to justify why they’re playing away. They obviously don’t go well. In 7 years I’ve seen one from a woman. "There are as many women as men in the world they derive pleasure from being deceitful. To believe otherwise is being misandrist. I have known a number of women in my life that actively enjoy the control and power it gives them. That is not unique to women or men. As for why women get a pass. Ask the men that give them the pass OP. You cannot really blame the women getting the pass when it’s others enabling them to do so. Most of the men I know (just like most of the women I know) would not “enjoy” to the point of pleasure cheating and would feel guilty for doing so, but the over-riding desire to get their dick wet can often negate their morals. | |||
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"Women cheat because they are getting no love or affection at home. They are hugged and looked after because women are lovely and their husbands are terrible men. Men cheat because they are moaning sleazy horndogs who will fuck anything with a hole. They don't deserve sympathy. Their innocent wifes are at home doing laundry. Those innocent ones are on here and being fked by the non-moaning 'single' guys too.... "Again on point | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that?
I get what you mean op.
There appear to be 3 or 4 distinct trains of thought on fab.
1) Cheating is cheating - man or woman - whatever the circumstances - and therefore to be avoided.
2) As above - but with more leniency should the person be particularly hot!
3) Cheating is cheating - but as long as the drama isn’t brought into the meet - that’s fine!
A lot of fabbers seem to follow the above philosophy.
4) Many men seem (inexplicably imo) to find it particularly ‘hot’ and ‘naughty’ to fuck another man’s wife - whether as a ‘hot-wife’ with her partner’s consent (which is obviously fine) or - even more so for many - if the husband is oblivious. In his mind - as the woman has chosen to meet with him then he must be superior/more alpha than her husband.
Clearly there are a lot of sad men out there who need their ego stroking.
With women - though some will meet men who are ‘playing away’ - I very much doubt they derive pleasure from the deceit - they just don’t care to think about it.
With regard to the way cheating men and women are perceived on here - I accept that more excuses seem to be made for cheating females - though the women of fab are far less likely, I think, to start or contribute to threads trying to justify their decision to cheat on their partner. Perhaps that’s why they’re not given such a hard time?
I’ve seen many, many threads from guys trying to justify why they’re playing away. They obviously don’t go well. In 7 years I’ve seen one from a woman.
There are as many women as men in the world they derive pleasure from being deceitful. To believe otherwise is being misandrist. I have known a number of women in my life that actively enjoy the control and power it gives them. That is not unique to women or men.
As for why women get a pass. Ask the men that give them the pass OP. You cannot really blame the women getting the pass when it’s others enabling them to do so. Most of the men I know (just like most of the women I know) would not “enjoy” to the point of pleasure cheating and would feel guilty for doing so, but the over-riding desire to get their dick wet can often negate their morals. "No idea how - but I deleted my last response. Not sure I agree that women derive the same pleasure as men from the deceit itself - in particular from meeting a person who’s cheating on their partner - but it’s something I’ll ponder more! Thanks for replying to my post. | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that?
I get what you mean op.
There appear to be 3 or 4 distinct trains of thought on fab.
1) Cheating is cheating - man or woman - whatever the circumstances - and therefore to be avoided.
2) As above - but with more leniency should the person be particularly hot!
3) Cheating is cheating - but as long as the drama isn’t brought into the meet - that’s fine!
A lot of fabbers seem to follow the above philosophy.
4) Many men seem (inexplicably imo) to find it particularly ‘hot’ and ‘naughty’ to fuck another man’s wife - whether as a ‘hot-wife’ with her partner’s consent (which is obviously fine) or - even more so for many - if the husband is oblivious. In his mind - as the woman has chosen to meet with him then he must be superior/more alpha than her husband.
Clearly there are a lot of sad men out there who need their ego stroking.
With women - though some will meet men who are ‘playing away’ - I very much doubt they derive pleasure from the deceit - they just don’t care to think about it.
With regard to the way cheating men and women are perceived on here - I accept that more excuses seem to be made for cheating females - though the women of fab are far less likely, I think, to start or contribute to threads trying to justify their decision to cheat on their partner. Perhaps that’s why they’re not given such a hard time?
I’ve seen many, many threads from guys trying to justify why they’re playing away. They obviously don’t go well. In 7 years I’ve seen one from a woman.
There are as many women as men in the world they derive pleasure from being deceitful. To believe otherwise is being misandrist. I have known a number of women in my life that actively enjoy the control and power it gives them. That is not unique to women or men.
As for why women get a pass. Ask the men that give them the pass OP. You cannot really blame the women getting the pass when it’s others enabling them to do so. Most of the men I know (just like most of the women I know) would not “enjoy” to the point of pleasure cheating and would feel guilty for doing so, but the over-riding desire to get their dick wet can often negate their morals.
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Not sure I agree that women derive the same pleasure as men from the deceit itself - in particular from meeting a person who’s cheating on their partner - but it’s something I’ll ponder more!
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"This is fab forum all over, OP makes a comment (I agree with the essence of post but not the berating) acceptance and vilification based on gender is hypocrisy is rife. Another "forumite" makes a comment on this and next instant the thread turns in to a lynch mob those trying to ingratiate themselves who would have no qualms any other time - grab your pitchforks folks. Guys, Girls cheating - their business nobody else's And then you get the usual comments - if its a woman she must have her reasons - hugs. if its guy he's a bounder, a cad, a sleaze ball, scum. It is nobody else's business but theirs So many people are guilty of dual of flexible standards. Quick to vilify Then you get threads, how nice an kind people should be, shame they don't practice what they preach. Probably this thread will get pulled " It would be their own business if they didn't create the my wife won't have sex with me and no one ever replies to me threads which is kind of asking it to be everyone else's business | |||
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"I think people need to get real about this environment. It’s a place for consenting adults to meet and enjoy recreational sex in whatever form that manifests. Judging those who have reason to be here is non productive and somewhat churlish in my opinion. Just enjoy the fact you are with like minded folks who enjoy the freedom of being liberated and hedonistic." You're right, but it's the hypocrisy I'm really objecting too. | |||
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"This is fab forum all over, OP makes a comment (I agree with the essence of post but not the berating) acceptance and vilification based on gender is hypocrisy is rife. Another "forumite" makes a comment on this and next instant the thread turns in to a lynch mob those trying to ingratiate themselves who would have no qualms any other time - grab your pitchforks folks. Guys, Girls cheating - their business nobody else's And then you get the usual comments - if its a woman she must have her reasons - hugs. if its guy he's a bounder, a cad, a sleaze ball, scum. It is nobody else's business but theirs So many people are guilty of dual of flexible standards. Quick to vilify Then you get threads, how nice an kind people should be, shame they don't practice what they preach. Probably this thread will get pulled It would be their own business if they didn't create the my wife won't have sex with me and no one ever replies to me threads which is kind of asking it to be everyone else's business" It's that 90% of the threads on here, in some way or an other? | |||
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"I think people need to get real about this environment. It’s a place for consenting adults to meet and enjoy recreational sex in whatever form that manifests. Judging those who have reason to be here is non productive and somewhat churlish in my opinion. Just enjoy the fact you are with like minded folks who enjoy the freedom of being liberated and hedonistic. You're right, but it's the hypocrisy I'm really objecting too." And if it was the other way round, with women being vilified and men given a “pass” as you phrase it... you’d object just as much? Because you know outside of the swinging world that’s EXACTLY what happens. A guy who sleeps around is a “stud”... a young woman who does the same is a “slut”. I could go on and on with this. I don’t know why you care what others do or don’t do? No one owes you anything in the lifestyle. And you don’t owe them. You set your own rules and boundaries and concentrate on pursuing fun with those who match up with your own opinions and ideals. | |||
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"This is fab forum all over, OP makes a comment (I agree with the essence of post but not the berating) acceptance and vilification based on gender is hypocrisy is rife. Another "forumite" makes a comment on this and next instant the thread turns in to a lynch mob those trying to ingratiate themselves who would have no qualms any other time - grab your pitchforks folks. Guys, Girls cheating - their business nobody else's And then you get the usual comments - if its a woman she must have her reasons - hugs. if its guy he's a bounder, a cad, a sleaze ball, scum. It is nobody else's business but theirs So many people are guilty of dual of flexible standards. Quick to vilify Then you get threads, how nice an kind people should be, shame they don't practice what they preach. Probably this thread will get pulled It would be their own business if they didn't create the my wife won't have sex with me and no one ever replies to me threads which is kind of asking it to be everyone else's business It's that 90% of the threads on here, in some way or an other?" Without a doubt | |||
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"From my experience women cheat just as much as men, probably more. They should be treated equally to cheating men and double standards are unfair. People should just be honest about it, so people can decide if they want to meet or not. People either will or won't mind, and that's their preference. However, being honest about it doesn't mean screaming about it on the forums and pretending it's not deceitful, it is, but people have their various reasons for doing it xx" I wholeheartedly agree with you, you've succinctly messaged what I was trying to say and mean. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. This and the married women aren't too fussed about getting understanding or pity for their situation. When have we ever seen a thread from a woman moaning of the lack of sex she gets from her husband, yet we get at least 3 a week from guys. The ladies tend to just get on with it without the desire for pity and understanding from others. " Agreed, not defending guys for their actions and if the come into the forums seeking ratification of their actions its not going to happen - bigger fools them. It is the sycophant/hypocritical attitudes of people, not just here, that vilify one gender over another for the same actions. Not just cheating. As my point earlier many here would be happy playing with an attached person in a club for example but come into the forums and vilify them. As earlier post people are happy to bed a married woman when it suits and vilify "cheaters" in the forums - are those any better than the threads by the guys that are trying to get validation for their actions? How many actual posts on this thread are simply jumping on the mob band wagon, don't actually believe in what they are posting? | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. This for us, we don't meet women, but have turned down couples, where the lady has been married to someone else, before. Like someone else said, not many women do start threads moaning that men won't meet them married. There are however, plenty of threads started by men saying how they love meeting naughty married women, beind their hubby's back. Take from that what you will. Miss I agree, you're right and there's a simple reason why, the ratio! I’d disagree. I still believe many men get a kick out of seeing another man’s wife behind his back - proof he’s a ‘better/more alpha man’! Just a thought though. "So you think “many men” get a kick out of potentially destroying a relationship? Wow. Men truly are bastards aren’t they. | |||
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So you think “many men” get a kick out of potentially destroying a relationship?
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. This for us, we don't meet women, but have turned down couples, where the lady has been married to someone else, before. Like someone else said, not many women do start threads moaning that men won't meet them married. There are however, plenty of threads started by men saying how they love meeting naughty married women, beind their hubby's back. Take from that what you will. Miss I agree, you're right and there's a simple reason why, the ratio! I’d disagree. I still believe many men get a kick out of seeing another man’s wife behind his back - proof he’s a ‘better/more alpha man’! Just a thought though.
So you think “many men” get a kick out of potentially destroying a relationship?
Wow. Men truly are bastards aren’t they.
I don't think many meet married women with that in mind, I've seen threads where men have said it's less drama with married women and that they enjoy sending them back "fulfilled" to unsuspecting hubby.
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"Sorry but I’m new to the scene but surely if a couple are on here it is not classed as cheating. Me and my husband are both here to be able to explore other experiences either together or apart when we are ready. Do people on here class this as cheating? " No there ar those that would say that but no - the essence of the thread now lost, was that if you're a woman who is here without partner permission are generally accepted. But if you're a guy then you are a sleaze ball. Generally was about hypocrisy not couples enjoying sexual experiences as a couple. But there are many couple who do claim not to meet with attached people but wouldn't hesitate with an attached woman | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. This for us, we don't meet women, but have turned down couples, where the lady has been married to someone else, before. Like someone else said, not many women do start threads moaning that men won't meet them married. There are however, plenty of threads started by men saying how they love meeting naughty married women, beind their hubby's back. Take from that what you will. Miss I agree, you're right and there's a simple reason why, the ratio! I’d disagree. I still believe many men get a kick out of seeing another man’s wife behind his back - proof he’s a ‘better/more alpha man’! Just a thought though.
So you think “many men” get a kick out of potentially destroying a relationship?
Wow. Men truly are bastards aren’t they.
I don't think many meet married women with that in mind, I've seen threads where men have said it's less drama with married women and that they enjoy sending them back "fulfilled" to unsuspecting hubby.
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Nothing would make me want to vomit more.
But hey ho. All men are bastards who are unable to think and get a kick out of lying, deceiving yada yada "I don't think all men are at all, some are yes, some women are too and some couples also, it's not about the gender for me. There was a woman in here who used to bait the forum that she was married and got a kick out of it, she got lambasted on a couple of threads. | |||
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Personally I do not care if a man is married or not. This is for meeting fun minded people ….. whether as a one to one or at clubs. Xxx"Do you mind if I ask, you'd be okay if you future husband was selling women without your knowledge? | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. This for us, we don't meet women, but have turned down couples, where the lady has been married to someone else, before. Like someone else said, not many women do start threads moaning that men won't meet them married. There are however, plenty of threads started by men saying how they love meeting naughty married women, beind their hubby's back. Take from that what you will. Miss I agree, you're right and there's a simple reason why, the ratio! I’d disagree. I still believe many men get a kick out of seeing another man’s wife behind his back - proof he’s a ‘better/more alpha man’! Just a thought though.
So you think “many men” get a kick out of potentially destroying a relationship?
Wow. Men truly are bastards aren’t they.
I don't think many meet married women with that in mind, I've seen threads where men have said it's less drama with married women and that they enjoy sending them back "fulfilled" to unsuspecting hubby.
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Nothing would make me want to vomit more.
But hey ho. All men are bastards who are unable to think and get a kick out of lying, deceiving yada yada
I don't think all men are at all, some are yes, some women are too and some couples also, it's not about the gender for me.
There was a woman in here who used to bait the forum that she was married and got a kick out of it, she got lambasted on a couple of threads. "Sorry I think this narrative is rather misandrist and is based on a stereotypical view of men. This is the 21st century. If people are encountering men that believe it’s all about being alpha in this day and age, then I would say “choose better, read signals, or if you like that in a guy, then accept the negatives with the positives”. For some weird reason there is this fascination with categorising males as alpha beta or whatever and yet men are not one dimensional, they have the ability to be each, at any given time and agile enough to change based on a situation. But the phrases “many men”. “Most men” etc. Paint a totally unrealistic picture of men. If you want the truth “most men” are just plodding on with life, not thinking they’re alpha, beta or _igma. Most men are just trying to get by, find a special someone or live this lifestyle as best they can without using it as a “I’ve got the most notches and I wrecked 5 marriages” scoring board. The view of people on this forum to “most men” (apart from the exceptional ones, of course ) is crass, insulting and actually bloody demeaning.
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So you think “many men” get a kick out of potentially destroying a relationship?
Wow. Men truly are bastards aren’t they.
I don't think many meet married women with that in mind, I've seen threads where men have said it's less drama with married women and that they enjoy sending them back "fulfilled" to unsuspecting hubby.
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Nothing would make me want to vomit more.
But hey ho. All men are bastards who are unable to think and get a kick out of lying, deceiving yada yada
I don't think all men are at all, some are yes, some women are too and some couples also, it's not about the gender for me.
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So you think “many men” get a kick out of potentially destroying a relationship?
Wow. Men truly are bastards aren’t they.
I don't think many meet married women with that in mind, I've seen threads where men have said it's less drama with married women and that they enjoy sending them back "fulfilled" to unsuspecting hubby.
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. This for us, we don't meet women, but have turned down couples, where the lady has been married to someone else, before. Like someone else said, not many women do start threads moaning that men won't meet them married. There are however, plenty of threads started by men saying how they love meeting naughty married women, beind their hubby's back. Take from that what you will. Miss I agree, you're right and there's a simple reason why, the ratio! I’d disagree. I still believe many men get a kick out of seeing another man’s wife behind his back - proof he’s a ‘better/more alpha man’! Just a thought though.
So you think “many men” get a kick out of potentially destroying a relationship?
Wow. Men truly are bastards aren’t they.
I don't think many meet married women with that in mind, I've seen threads where men have said it's less drama with married women and that they enjoy sending them back "fulfilled" to unsuspecting hubby.
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In my experience less men seem to take issue with married women than the other way around, they just want a meet, and them being married isn't a concern nor the reason either. Satisfaction from sending her home full does seem to be common though! Xx"Isn't that a case with many elements of the scene, there are those that need their egos massaging and turn on, thinking they are giving them something, others can't. Also the same with many couples why they will only meet solo females - 1) for Bi fantasy and 2) massage the males ego - the fact the female may be attached and here in secret is of no consequence - except making them feel better about themselves in the forums by claiming they don't meet. Females, doubt there is any ego massaging but with some definite, hypocrisy, flexible ore fluid standards. | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here." You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification." But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. " | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. " Not at all, all cheating is wrong, I'm afraid to say you've misunderstood me. | |||
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"I pass them by, I don't give them a pass. If you sleep with someone knowing they're cheating then you may as well be doing the cheating because it's just as bad" I agree | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. Not at all, all cheating is wrong, I'm afraid to say you've misunderstood me." That’s a first OP | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. Not at all, all cheating is wrong, I'm afraid to say you've misunderstood me. That’s a first OP " For? | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. Not at all, all cheating is wrong, I'm afraid to say you've misunderstood me. That’s a first OP For?" Been misunderstood mate ! I think you mean what you say then when someone with chat and intellect comes at you your opinions change ? Not having a go mate I could be wrong ! | |||
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"Just to play devil's advocate - could it be that men (and perhaps couples) see married women as "safe" with regards to remaining strictly NSA? I have seen friends repeatedly having ladies wanting more than NSA meets, despite both parties stating that that's all they are looking for on their profile. Perhaps they think that a married woman is less likely to develop feelings or want more exclusivity than a single lady. And perhaps some single ladies realise that anything more than NSA is unlikely with a married man. Just an alternative view of it. " This is spot on
in cases across the swinging scene and outside, there have been cases (refrain from proposing numbers) where hot married guy, in full knowledge meets solo female - one sided feelings develop and may and the fairytale for them seems possible - (sometimes want what someone else has), it all goes wrong, he wants to concentrate on the marriage or whatever. Hopes and fairytale dashed returns here, bitter and angry and full of hate, ignoring the fact it takes two and its all the guys fault.
On the flip side yes because guys don't want commitment and clingy relationships - think this is a case why younger guys go for older women - because they want the sex without wedding bells and attachment .
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"It is not necessarily about judging people who "cheat" - we never know the full story anyway. It is about not wanting the hassle, the lies, the phone calls from an upset wife who allegedly died recently only she was very much alive when she made that call... That s the sort of thing I do not want to be bothered with ever again. " Again ? Obviously I’m not gonna ask but that story sounds interesting! ? | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. Not at all, all cheating is wrong, I'm afraid to say you've misunderstood me. That’s a first OP For? Been misunderstood mate ! I think you mean what you say then when someone with chat and intellect comes at you your opinions change ? Not having a go mate I could be wrong ! " That's okay, didn't take it as such
I didn't and haven't changed my opinion, cheating (having sex without partners knowledge rather than hot wife etc)is wrong but women get away with it on here then men, that's all....wish I hadn't said anything now, but I am blaming the red and the quantity thereof!? | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. Not at all, all cheating is wrong, I'm afraid to say you've misunderstood me. That’s a first OP For? Been misunderstood mate ! I think you mean what you say then when someone with chat and intellect comes at you your opinions change ? Not having a go mate I could be wrong ! That's okay, didn't take it as such
I didn't and haven't changed my opinion, cheating (having sex without partners knowledge rather than hot wife etc)is wrong but women get away with it on here then men, that's all....wish I hadn't said anything now, but I am blaming the red and the quantity thereof!? "Yeah it’s definitely there fault ha Look I’m not here to have a go of anyone honestly mate ! Maybe I took it up wrong but Regardless I apologize | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that? "Perhaps you should name and shame a few   | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here. You're absolutely right, I've seen a women declare that and she gets nothing but "poor hun" "he doesn't deserve you" "you'll soon find a nice bloke on here" etc etc and a full mailbox from eager males. On the other hand when a man has done it, no messages and nothing but vilification. But they are talking to 2 different sets of people so of course the reactions will be different. Men cheating are for the most part talking to couples and women. Women who are cheating are for the most part talking to men. Its not the act of cheating that differs, its the attitude of the groups responding, your issue is that men generally have less of an issue with cheating than women and couples do. Hardly a big shock that men generally don't let morality and ethics bother them as much when it comes to sex. Not at all, all cheating is wrong, I'm afraid to say you've misunderstood me. That’s a first OP For? Been misunderstood mate ! I think you mean what you say then when someone with chat and intellect comes at you your opinions change ? Not having a go mate I could be wrong ! That's okay, didn't take it as such
I didn't and haven't changed my opinion, cheating (having sex without partners knowledge rather than hot wife etc)is wrong but women get away with it on here then men, that's all....wish I hadn't said anything now, but I am blaming the red and the quantity thereof!?
Yeah it’s definitely there fault ha
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"Oh well the point of the thread has been lost again or ignored. Just became a slating thread - and the if I agree with you do I get a shag posts. "It's not lost - there's those who want to discuss other peoples opinion about it. | |||
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"Here's a point, when you get someone saying the reason they're cheating is because of a loveless marriage etc, do you not think they might be lying just to get sympathy or to be accepted on here? Let's face it, if they are quite happy go lie to there partner then they are more than likely to on here." Well the sympathy for a woman or a man, will only last so long - rare you'll get sex out of it. Lies, well all single and married can do that. It isn't exclusive  | |||
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"Personally I don't differenciate between gender when it comes to cheating. It's equally wrong when anybody does it. However, in the forums, I won't comment unless it's specifically asked for and even then there are times I will avoid the discussion if its very heated and I'm not in the mood for that kind of thing. Also I don't tend to look at profiles so I don't always know if people I interact with say on their profile thqt they're married and here behind their spouse's back. " I don't judge them its none of my business focus on the judgers - those that have flexible standards dependent on the gender. But on the point of reading profiles if a woman says here with partners permission, does anyone actually check, do they carry a permission slip - is that that taken a red as all women are honest on their profiles aren't they? Would never lie. Where as a guy says that on his profile then it assumed he is lying. So back to the essence of the OP, would you acceptance meet a woman that says they are here with partners permission, against a guy who says it on their profile. Before anyone makes assumptions - this is simply how people determine what is acceptable and what is not based on identical scenarios but gender defined | |||
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"I'm married (to Mr KC) and I have a pass for one particular guy. Otherwise, we discuss and agree everything. Is it an issue that I have a "pass" most Thursday evenings and possibly weekends when we play away matches?!" Lucky lady | |||
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"Personally I don't differenciate between gender when it comes to cheating. It's equally wrong when anybody does it. However, in the forums, I won't comment unless it's specifically asked for and even then there are times I will avoid the discussion if its very heated and I'm not in the mood for that kind of thing. Also I don't tend to look at profiles so I don't always know if people I interact with say on their profile thqt they're married and here behind their spouse's back. I don't judge them its none of my business focus on the judgers - those that have flexible standards dependent on the gender. But on the point of reading profiles if a woman says here with partners permission, does anyone actually check, do they carry a permission slip - is that that taken a red as all women are honest on their profiles aren't they? Would never lie. Where as a guy says that on his profile then it assumed he is lying. So back to the essence of the OP, would you acceptance meet a woman that says they are here with partners permission, against a guy who says it on their profile. Before anyone makes assumptions - this is simply how people determine what is acceptable and what is not based on identical scenarios but gender defined" Personally I'm happy for people to check. One of my partners has his own profile on here though he very rarely uses it. You can definitely tell our pictures are from the same bedroom though . Plus we both have verifications from some of the same people. He'd happily talk to someone if they wanted to. My other partner isn't on here but I'm sure he would be happy to do the same. Admittedly nobody has ever asked to speak to my partners. Though I personally feel that if I was going to lie, it would be easier to pretend to be single than concoct this whole, elaborate story and create a fake profile for my partner . | |||
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"I think people need to get real about this environment. It’s a place for consenting adults to meet and enjoy recreational sex in whatever form that manifests. Judging those who have reason to be here is non productive and somewhat churlish in my opinion. Just enjoy the fact you are with like minded folks who enjoy the freedom of being liberated and hedonistic." Oh hello Ivan .... Unfortunately for you, I agree | |||
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"I think people need to get real about this environment. It’s a place for consenting adults to meet and enjoy recreational sex in whatever form that manifests. Judging those who have reason to be here is non productive and somewhat churlish in my opinion. Just enjoy the fact you are with like minded folks who enjoy the freedom of being liberated and hedonistic. Oh hello Ivan .... Unfortunately for you, I agree "Hello Ms BBM Why unfortunately? We are all consenting adult liberated hedonistic pervs are we not? | |||
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"Married women or men either way it’s dishonest and cheating "So, if the opportunity presented its self to meet a fab lady who was married and for her own reasons wanted to indulge in extra marital sex you would refuse? If so you are truly in a very small minority! In fact I am penning a letter to the pope about a possible canonisation......... | |||
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"I think people need to get real about this environment. It’s a place for consenting adults to meet and enjoy recreational sex in whatever form that manifests. Judging those who have reason to be here is non productive and somewhat churlish in my opinion. Just enjoy the fact you are with like minded folks who enjoy the freedom of being liberated and hedonistic. Oh hello Ivan .... Unfortunately for you, I agree
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We are all consenting adult liberated hedonistic pervs are we not?"In short - filthy ones, yes! | |||
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"I think people need to get real about this environment. It’s a place for consenting adults to meet and enjoy recreational sex in whatever form that manifests. Judging those who have reason to be here is non productive and somewhat churlish in my opinion. Just enjoy the fact you are with like minded folks who enjoy the freedom of being liberated and hedonistic. Oh hello Ivan .... Unfortunately for you, I agree
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Why unfortunately?
We are all consenting adult liberated hedonistic pervs are we not?
In short - filthy ones, yes!
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"Married women or men either way it’s dishonest and cheating
So, if the opportunity presented its self to meet a fab lady who was married and for her own reasons wanted to indulge in extra marital sex you would refuse?
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. " This. The 'pass' is mainly driven by the volume of single men who are happy to ignore it to get laid. If you had a post where only couples responded, I'd guess that any who meet cheaters, do so for both sexes, not favouring one over the other. | |||
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"Can't say that I've noticed this OP, I think the people who are against cheating generally feel that way regardless of the gender of the person being unfaithful. Oh, good God, I have! Been on here over six years and, not that I would, I know numerous women who actively post as if they're single but are actually married, some who are openly secretly married but still don't anyway as near "abuse" as the equivalent man I maybe haven't really noticed it as much as you OP because I'm not looking for a single female (whether genuinely single or not). I do think that women who are cheating maybe don't as much abuse because a lot of the fab men are so desperate for a meet that they aren't particularly fussy about these things. Possibly but there's a lot of hidden married women on here, certainly a particularly women who was very active today! Ahh thought this was probably one of those let’s slyly have a dig at someone on the forums threads. It obviously is
Also why do you care? women probably don’t get as much abuse because you rarely see threads from married women seeking validation on here like you do from men. That could be the reason. "This is also true! There have been a glut of posts asking for validation and praise for being open about cheating.... Maybe the women who cheat on here are just more discreet and better liars than the men. | |||
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"Seem to be just as many as men on Fab yet women tend to get a "pass", why is that?
Just the way it is and always has been, blokes and couples want women they don't care if they are cheating it is one of the biggest hypocrisies of the swinging scene. Many will deny it but if it was the case of meeting married or not it would be conveniently ignored in my experience"Not always true mate. I don't knowingly play with any women who are swinging without their partner's knowledge. Not because of any kind of moralistic attitude on my part you understand. I just don't need to be dealing with irate partner's. | |||
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"I love the way men have got the blame for women cheating. Man cheating = filthy bastard cheating scum. Woman cheating = shagged by filthy bastard scum who didn’t care that she’s married." I don't think it's blame, more an explanation for the perceived difference in attitude the OP has observed. | |||
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"I love the way men have got the blame for women cheating. Man cheating = filthy bastard cheating scum. Woman cheating = shagged by filthy bastard scum who didn’t care that she’s married. I don't think it's blame, more an explanation for the perceived difference in attitude the OP has observed. " You are probably right. | |||
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"Zero respect for people who cheat, irrespective of gender. " Typical Dublin attitude kidding mate | |||
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"Zero respect for people who cheat, irrespective of gender. Typical Dublin attitude kidding mate "I'd take that as a compliment anyway. | |||
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"Zero respect for people who cheat, irrespective of gender. Typical Dublin attitude kidding mate
I'd take that as a compliment anyway. "Course ! And Don’t let the Caven address fool you mate !
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"I love the way men have got the blame for women cheating. Man cheating = filthy bastard cheating scum. Woman cheating = shagged by filthy bastard scum who didn’t care that she’s married." Fact | |||
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"I love the way men have got the blame for women cheating. Man cheating = filthy bastard cheating scum. Woman cheating = shagged by filthy bastard scum who didn’t care that she’s married. Fact "Na just someone’s opinion | |||
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"I love the way men have got the blame for women cheating. Man cheating = filthy bastard cheating scum. Woman cheating = shagged by filthy bastard scum who didn’t care that she’s married. Fact
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"I love the way men have got the blame for women cheating. Man cheating = filthy bastard cheating scum. Woman cheating = shagged by filthy bastard scum who didn’t care that she’s married. Fact
Na just someone’s opinion
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"I love the way men have got the blame for women cheating. Man cheating = filthy bastard cheating scum. Woman cheating = shagged by filthy bastard scum who didn’t care that she’s married. Fact
Na just someone’s opinion
I was expecting a rant to be honest!
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"I love the way men have got the blame for women cheating. Man cheating = filthy bastard cheating scum. Woman cheating = shagged by filthy bastard scum who didn’t care that she’s married. I don't think it's blame, more an explanation for the perceived difference in attitude the OP has observed. You are probably right." She is | |||
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"Taking this thread off at slight tangent but still relevant to the to OP. How many current women moaning man bashing threads are active at the moment and how are they received opposed to a male moaning thread. Point of how many are guilty of dual standards QED. " I’m not sure what the question is? | |||
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"It's only cheating if their husband doesn't know. So how do you know that he doesn't? There is a very old saying; if you Assume then you make an Ass out of U and Me." I did make the point that that's the case for both sexes, they've openly admitted they were cheating without their partners knowledge | |||
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"Sorry but I’m new to the scene but surely if a couple are on here it is not classed as cheating. Me and my husband are both here to be able to explore other experiences either together or apart when we are ready. Do people on here class this as cheating? "
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