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"Ahem…… ". We should swap. I’ll go back up north and you come back down south! | |||
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"I went to York once and everyone said hello. It really spooked me! I kept wondering what the con was, then realised I was just up north "I lived in York for much of 2018 with a naughty nurse who turned out to be a fucking nutty nurse and I fled back south. Weird lot up there. | |||
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"It must be because the south is full of northerners" Actually the house market is full of southerners buying asking high prices in Lake District and Cumbria ! I haven’t seen so many renovations of big houses -Russian style- by the lake Windermere !!! | |||
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"I struggle with the accents/phrases up North which is why I need to stay down South " | |||
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"I went to York once and everyone said hello. It really spooked me! I kept wondering what the con was, then realised I was just up north "Go to Cumbria / the lakes. You'll end up having a conversation with a dog -walking friendly farmer for 45 minutes to an hour. | |||
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"The further up you go the nicer people are "Excuse me ? | |||
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"The further up you go the nicer people are
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"I struggle with the accents/phrases up North which is why I need to stay down South "so do I and I'm mancunian born and bred lol. | |||
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"The further up you go the nicer people are
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"Can't get Steak and Kidney puddings anywhere south of Manchester ?" You can get them in my local chip shop | |||
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"I went to York once and everyone said hello. It really spooked me! I kept wondering what the con was, then realised I was just up north
Go to Cumbria / the lakes.
You'll end up having a conversation with a dog -walking friendly farmer for 45 minutes to an hour.
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. We should swap. I’ll go back up north and you come back down south!"Some days I’d love that! | |||
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"Can't get Steak and Kidney puddings anywhere south of Manchester ? You can get them in my local chip shop "I’ve had them down south but they are not a patch on north west ones | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies "That's not a very nice way to talk about us down here Busman  | |||
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"It's bad enough you can't get decent curry sauce on your chips down south but I found out recently from family that you can't even get salt and pepper chips! "What?!?!?!?! | |||
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"It's bad enough you can't get decent curry sauce on your chips down south but I found out recently from family that you can't even get salt and pepper chips! "Depends where you go and what curry sauce you are expecting, I’ve had smooth with a tight kick or a thick one with veg lumps like up here. I was disappointed today, went in the bakers and asked for a meat & potato pie (I can’t get it at home), took it back for lunch and it was cheese & veg obviously didn’t understand my accent | |||
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"I went to York once and everyone said hello. It really spooked me! I kept wondering what the con was, then realised I was just up north "Nice yorks. | |||
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"I went to York once and everyone said hello. It really spooked me! I kept wondering what the con was, then realised I was just up north "Omg that’s hilarious! My cousins from Kent came up and went to the chippy, came back freaked out because someone in the queue spoke to them | |||
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"I’m technically south Midlands… But….. It’s breakfast, lunch & dinner none of this breakfast, dinner, tea.. malarkey. Or brunch, tea & supper… Also it’s a bread roll, not a bap, cob, barm, etc… (Also tongue in cheek I get and love the nuances) Debate away!! " It’s a bread cake in Sheffield | |||
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"When I was in the North the people there said my accent was exotic or esoteric, one of the two. " Na, we don’t call spades shovels.  | |||
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"I’m technically south Midlands… But….. It’s breakfast, lunch & dinner none of this breakfast, dinner, tea.. malarkey. Or brunch, tea & supper… Also it’s a bread roll, not a bap, cob, barm, etc… (Also tongue in cheek I get and love the nuances) Debate away!! It’s a bread cake in Sheffield "That’s just wrong… savoury & sweet together.. permanent confusion!! | |||
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"Reading through the thread and does come across that northerners are far more friendly... is that because it's so much colder and wetter, they need something to feel good about? Being slap bang in the middle, I'm not sure where we'd stand but, personally I always try and do my bit at being pleasant and even behind the masks we've all been wearing, I try and smile with my eyes and maybe we are miserable here as the number of people that seem genuinely appreciated because, both shocks and saddens me. Should it matter, a little courtesy and pleasantness never hurts... north or south. " I suspect that there are a number of factors Wealth - when you live in a detached house with a nanny to care for your kids rather than the neighbours as an example you have less reason to know/chat to other locals. You don't need close local social ties when you can buy in help from anywhere so choose who comes into your life more on their perceived worth to you than their geographical proximity.p Significant differences in class/ethnic background. A few streets in London can mean the difference between multi-millionaire houses and extreme poverty, couple this with a huge mix of ethnicities and you have less of a sense of belonging - people prefer and feel safe with strangers who are like themselves. When all the strangers in your local shop are from a different class or ethnicity to what you grew up with as a child you are less likely to feel that they're part of your tribe. Commuter belts - people eat and sleep in one town but live their waking hours elsewhere - they meet with friends and colleagues from a wide range of areas rather than the local town. Population density - it feels reasonable to nod hello to other customers in a local village shop, less so to the thousands thronging Bluewater. Many of these factors apply to some extent both North and South, a poster above mentions his family from Kent being freaked by people in the local chippy greeting them - I wonder if those same people would greet everyone in a busy Asda superstore? Would they have had the same friendly greetings if those strangers were wearing hijabs? What if they'd pulled up in a Ferrari? Or were sat outside begging? Would those chippy customers walk down Brixton highstreet saying hello to everyone around them? People are no different wherever they're born or live, they may learn different behavoirs in order to fit in better with the locally accepted social norms but they're not any more or less likely to be friendly or kind or rude, judgemental or anything else, they just have different ways of expressing those behaviours and deciding who they treat one way and who another. Mr | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies
That's not a very nice way to talk about us down here Busman "friendly banter xx | |||
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"I went to York once and everyone said hello. It really spooked me! I kept wondering what the con was, then realised I was just up north
Omg that’s hilarious! My cousins from Kent came up and went to the chippy, came back freaked out because someone in the queue spoke to them "Exactly, it's weird. Down south everyone knows how to queue. You stand silently, no one makes eye contact and you slowly walk forward like zombies. That's how it's done! | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies
That's not a very nice way to talk about us down here Busman friendly banter xx"Ah, that's an example of the famous Northern friendliness. Got ya' | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies
That's not a very nice way to talk about us down here Busman friendly banter x
Ah, that's an example of the famous Northern friendliness. Got ya'"Morning my friend hope Hastings is sunny many holiday makers your neck of the woods x | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies
That's not a very nice way to talk about us down here Busman friendly banter x
Ah, that's an example of the famous Northern friendliness. Got ya'Morning my friend hope Hastings is sunny many holiday makers your neck of the woods x "Good morning, brilliant sunshine and thousands of holiday makers. | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies
That's not a very nice way to talk about us down here Busman friendly banter x
Ah, that's an example of the famous Northern friendliness. Got ya'Morning my friend hope Hastings is sunny many holiday makers your neck of the woods x
Good morning, brilliant sunshine and thousands of holiday makers. "do you mind holiday makers I always wonder what locals think of them x | |||
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"I’m technically south Midlands… But….. It’s breakfast, lunch & dinner none of this breakfast, dinner, tea.. malarkey. Or brunch, tea & supper… Also it’s a bread roll, not a bap, cob, barm, etc… (Also tongue in cheek I get and love the nuances) Debate away!! " I had this issue once with my ex when he was shopping for something for "dinner". I kept suggesting things ans he was looking at me strangely. Turns out because he meant lunch . | |||
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"I’m technically south Midlands… But….. It’s breakfast, lunch & dinner none of this breakfast, dinner, tea.. malarkey. Or brunch, tea & supper… Also it’s a bread roll, not a bap, cob, barm, etc… (Also tongue in cheek I get and love the nuances) Debate away!! I had this issue once with my ex when he was shopping for something for "dinner". I kept suggesting things ans he was looking at me strangely. Turns out because he meant lunch . "They don't understand its dinner I have put a thread out about this previously you are right xxx | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies "West is best! | |||
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"Can't get Steak and Kidney puddings anywhere south of Manchester ?" Don't even start me on meat and potato pies, I cam from Wigan 20yrs ago and Nottingham hasn't heard of them | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies
That's not a very nice way to talk about us down here Busman friendly banter x
Ah, that's an example of the famous Northern friendliness. Got ya'Morning my friend hope Hastings is sunny many holiday makers your neck of the woods x
Good morning, brilliant sunshine and thousands of holiday makers. do you mind holiday makers I always wonder what locals think of them x"Not at all. We understand that our local economy would collapse without them and try to be welcoming and hospitable. All we ask is that people respect the beaches and countryside and realise that the sea is a dangerous thing. | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies
West is best! "East is least. No, wait a minute, thats not right ! Is it ? No, no . | |||
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"North v south north Everytime sport food hospitality there put that in your pipe and smoke it you southern softies
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East is least. No, wait a minute, thats not right ! Is it ? No, no ."
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"Reading through the thread and does come across that northerners are far more friendly... is that because it's so much colder and wetter, they need something to feel good about? Being slap bang in the middle, I'm not sure where we'd stand but, personally I always try and do my bit at being pleasant and even behind the masks we've all been wearing, I try and smile with my eyes and maybe we are miserable here as the number of people that seem genuinely appreciated because, both shocks and saddens me. Should it matter, a little courtesy and pleasantness never hurts... north or south. I suspect that there are a number of factors Wealth - when you live in a detached house with a nanny to care for your kids rather than the neighbours as an example you have less reason to know/chat to other locals. You don't need close local social ties when you can buy in help from anywhere so choose who comes into your life more on their perceived worth to you than their geographical proximity.p Significant differences in class/ethnic background. A few streets in London can mean the difference between multi-millionaire houses and extreme poverty, couple this with a huge mix of ethnicities and you have less of a sense of belonging - people prefer and feel safe with strangers who are like themselves. When all the strangers in your local shop are from a different class or ethnicity to what you grew up with as a child you are less likely to feel that they're part of your tribe. Commuter belts - people eat and sleep in one town but live their waking hours elsewhere - they meet with friends and colleagues from a wide range of areas rather than the local town. Population density - it feels reasonable to nod hello to other customers in a local village shop, less so to the thousands thronging Bluewater. Many of these factors apply to some extent both North and South, a poster above mentions his family from Kent being freaked by people in the local chippy greeting them - I wonder if those same people would greet everyone in a busy Asda superstore? Would they have had the same friendly greetings if those strangers were wearing hijabs? What if they'd pulled up in a Ferrari? Or were sat outside begging? Would those chippy customers walk down Brixton highstreet saying hello to everyone around them? People are no different wherever they're born or live, they may learn different behavoirs in order to fit in better with the locally accepted social norms but they're not any more or less likely to be friendly or kind or rude, judgemental or anything else, they just have different ways of expressing those behaviours and deciding who they treat one way and who another. Mr" I’d say you’ve got some of this spot on, but there are areas where the rich/poor live and work well together, along with all the different ethnic groups. As with most things it’s a small minority that see it differently. As someone with northern blood but living in London, I’m quite happy talking to anyone if a conversation is striked up, but my southern mates are to wary or ask ‘why did you talk to them?’, simple ‘because they said hello, asked a question and it’s polite to answer’, doesn’t do you any harm. I do wonder sometimes how any of my southern friends met anyone Just as up north this week, I’ve slipped back into saying morning, afternoon, evening to anyone you pass in the street but if I do that when return home it wouldn’t be welcomed. | |||
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"Reading through the thread and does come across that northerners are far more friendly... is that because it's so much colder and wetter, they need something to feel good about? Being slap bang in the middle, I'm not sure where we'd stand but, personally I always try and do my bit at being pleasant and even behind the masks we've all been wearing, I try and smile with my eyes and maybe we are miserable here as the number of people that seem genuinely appreciated because, both shocks and saddens me. Should it matter, a little courtesy and pleasantness never hurts... north or south. I suspect that there are a number of factors Wealth - when you live in a detached house with a nanny to care for your kids rather than the neighbours as an example you have less reason to know/chat to other locals. You don't need close local social ties when you can buy in help from anywhere so choose who comes into your life more on their perceived worth to you than their geographical proximity.p Significant differences in class/ethnic background. A few streets in London can mean the difference between multi-millionaire houses and extreme poverty, couple this with a huge mix of ethnicities and you have less of a sense of belonging - people prefer and feel safe with strangers who are like themselves. When all the strangers in your local shop are from a different class or ethnicity to what you grew up with as a child you are less likely to feel that they're part of your tribe. Commuter belts - people eat and sleep in one town but live their waking hours elsewhere - they meet with friends and colleagues from a wide range of areas rather than the local town. Population density - it feels reasonable to nod hello to other customers in a local village shop, less so to the thousands thronging Bluewater. Many of these factors apply to some extent both North and South, a poster above mentions his family from Kent being freaked by people in the local chippy greeting them - I wonder if those same people would greet everyone in a busy Asda superstore? Would they have had the same friendly greetings if those strangers were wearing hijabs? What if they'd pulled up in a Ferrari? Or were sat outside begging? Would those chippy customers walk down Brixton highstreet saying hello to everyone around them? People are no different wherever they're born or live, they may learn different behavoirs in order to fit in better with the locally accepted social norms but they're not any more or less likely to be friendly or kind or rude, judgemental or anything else, they just have different ways of expressing those behaviours and deciding who they treat one way and who another. Mr I’d say you’ve got some of this spot on, but there are areas where the rich/poor live and work well together, along with all the different ethnic groups. As with most things it’s a small minority that see it differently. As someone with northern blood but living in London, I’m quite happy talking to anyone if a conversation is striked up, but my southern mates are to wary or ask ‘why did you talk to them?’, simple ‘because they said hello, asked a question and it’s polite to answer’, doesn’t do you any harm. I do wonder sometimes how any of my southern friends met anyone Just as up north this week, I’ve slipped back into saying morning, afternoon, evening to anyone you pass in the street but if I do that when return home it wouldn’t be welcomed. " great analysis I know it is tongue in cheek thread I have met some great southern people over the years at the end of the day doesn't matter where you come from it is always good to be friendly and courteous | |||
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" great analysis I know it is tongue in cheek thread I have met some great southern people over the years at the end of the day doesn't matter where you come from it is always good to be friendly and courteous "It's also good to understand that what you consider to be friendly and courteous would be considered strange or even down right rude by others. Some people for example would think it rude for a stranger to strike up an unwanted conversation - that doesn't make them less friendly. Mr | |||
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" great analysis I know it is tongue in cheek thread I have met some great southern people over the years at the end of the day doesn't matter where you come from it is always good to be friendly and courteous
It's also good to understand that what you consider to be friendly and courteous would be considered strange or even down right rude by others. Some people for example would think it rude for a stranger to strike up an unwanted conversation - that doesn't make them less friendly.
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