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"the first man on the moon has passed away. RIP x" was that the moon really or some old unused aircraft hangar  | |||
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"the first man on the moon has passed away. if true sad but he is a liar the americans never landed anyone on the moon still not possible today .because of radiation and the problems with the van allen belt ect we were all had RIP x" | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it" My thoughts exactly. RIP x | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it" i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think " of course it contained strong evidence otherwise what would be the point making it. I once saw a bbc doc explaining how jesus was a buddhist monk. the evidence was compelling but it doesn't make it true | |||
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"If the Americans did go to the moon why have they not gone back? There were claimed to be 6 manned landings between 1969/1972, Technology has moved on so much since the 70s it makes one think why they have not gone back! was it because they never went in the first place or something stranger like "First Contact"? One thing is sure we will never know as Goverments do not give their secrets up that easy." It costs a lot of money - look at the recessions and oil wars of the 70s. But, I agree we are unlikely to get a definitive answer any time soon. I will go on believing that it happened, if only for the sheer adventure and romance of it. | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think " then you and the people who made the program arent realy very clever are you? all the arguments saying false are easily countered but how do you counter the fact that the appollo astronauts put mirrors on the surface of the moon which we still use today to measure the retrograde orbital decay of the moon? Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong landed on another planet lets hope we get there (and to other places) again in my life time | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think of course it contained strong evidence otherwise what would be the point making it. I once saw a bbc doc explaining how jesus was a buddhist monk. the evidence was compelling but it doesn't make it true" wow, how do you know it wasn't true??? | |||
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"Nice to see the respect of someone who has died. Theres a time and a place for conspiracy and oppinions, this thread isnt the place. R.I.P Niel Armstrong." Couldn't agree more, R.I.P a true legend. | |||
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"If the Americans did go to the moon why have they not gone back? There were claimed to be 6 manned landings between 1969/1972, Technology has moved on so much since the 70s it makes one think why they have not gone back! was it because they never went in the first place or something stranger like "First Contact"? One thing is sure we will never know as Goverments do not give their secrets up that easy. It costs a lot of money - look at the recessions and oil wars of the 70s. But, I agree we are unlikely to get a definitive answer any time soon. I will go on believing that it happened, if only for the sheer adventure and romance of it." Yes it does cost a lot of money and so does going to WAR, but the Americans still find the money for it. As for the romance of it would you class it as a "One night stand" I would as they never dipped their wicks there again! | |||
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"If the Americans did go to the moon why have they not gone back? There were claimed to be 6 manned landings between 1969/1972, Technology has moved on so much since the 70s it makes one think why they have not gone back! was it because they never went in the first place or something stranger like "First Contact"? One thing is sure we will never know as Goverments do not give their secrets up that easy. It costs a lot of money - look at the recessions and oil wars of the 70s. But, I agree we are unlikely to get a definitive answer any time soon. I will go on believing that it happened, if only for the sheer adventure and romance of it. Yes it does cost a lot of money and so does going to WAR, but the Americans still find the money for it. As for the romance of it would you class it as a "One night stand" I would as they never dipped their wicks there again!" But they did didn't they?...... | |||
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"If the Americans did go to the moon why have they not gone back? There were claimed to be 6 manned landings between 1969/1972, Technology has moved on so much since the 70s it makes one think why they have not gone back! was it because they never went in the first place or something stranger like "First Contact"? One thing is sure we will never know as Goverments do not give their secrets up that easy. It costs a lot of money - look at the recessions and oil wars of the 70s. But, I agree we are unlikely to get a definitive answer any time soon. I will go on believing that it happened, if only for the sheer adventure and romance of it. Yes it does cost a lot of money and so does going to WAR, but the Americans still find the money for it. As for the romance of it would you class it as a "One night stand" I would as they never dipped their wicks there again! But they did didn't they?......" Point taken but it was only a short affair, I will never believe that they went. I have nothing aganist Neil Armstrong he was just doing his duty for his country, but America likes to be a the forefront of everything and at the time of the "Space Race" there was no way they were going to let the Russians be first to the moon, even if it meant making up the greatest stroy since the bible! | |||
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"If the Americans did go to the moon why have they not gone back? There were claimed to be 6 manned landings between 1969/1972, Technology has moved on so much since the 70s it makes one think why they have not gone back! was it because they never went in the first place or something stranger like "First Contact"? One thing is sure we will never know as Goverments do not give their secrets up that easy. It costs a lot of money - look at the recessions and oil wars of the 70s. But, I agree we are unlikely to get a definitive answer any time soon. I will go on believing that it happened, if only for the sheer adventure and romance of it. Yes it does cost a lot of money and so does going to WAR, but the Americans still find the money for it. As for the romance of it would you class it as a "One night stand" I would as they never dipped their wicks there again! But they did didn't they?...... Point taken but it was only a short affair, I will never believe that they went. I have nothing aganist Neil Armstrong he was just doing his duty for his country, but America likes to be a the forefront of everything and at the time of the "Space Race" there was no way they were going to let the Russians be first to the moon, even if it meant making up the greatest stroy since the bible!" Conspiracies rely on a small number, the smallest possible number of people, being involved.....there were many hundreds involved in the Moon landing missions, I think someone would have opened up about it long before now if it never happened. | |||
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"If the Americans did go to the moon why have they not gone back? There were claimed to be 6 manned landings between 1969/1972, Technology has moved on so much since the 70s it makes one think why they have not gone back! was it because they never went in the first place or something stranger like "First Contact"? One thing is sure we will never know as Goverments do not give their secrets up that easy. It costs a lot of money - look at the recessions and oil wars of the 70s. But, I agree we are unlikely to get a definitive answer any time soon. I will go on believing that it happened, if only for the sheer adventure and romance of it. Yes it does cost a lot of money and so does going to WAR, but the Americans still find the money for it. As for the romance of it would you class it as a "One night stand" I would as they never dipped their wicks there again! But they did didn't they?...... Point taken but it was only a short affair, I will never believe that they went. I have nothing aganist Neil Armstrong he was just doing his duty for his country, but America likes to be a the forefront of everything and at the time of the "Space Race" there was no way they were going to let the Russians be first to the moon, even if it meant making up the greatest stroy since the bible! Conspiracies rely on a small number, the smallest possible number of people, being involved.....there were many hundreds involved in the Moon landing missions, I think someone would have opened up about it long before now if it never happened." That is a very good point as the more that know the harder it is to keep the secret, but I still cannot believe it. | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think " but did you also watch the program than debunked the evidence in the program you watched to get both sides of the story ? Personally I think it wouldhave been harder to fake than actually go to the moon. | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think then you and the people who made the program arent realy very clever are you? all the arguments saying false are easily countered but how do you counter the fact that the appollo astronauts put mirrors on the surface of the moon which we still use today to measure the retrograde orbital decay of the moon? Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong landed on another planet lets hope we get there (and to other places) again in my life time" me?? yes i am thank you very much 
easy i'd say say show me one person that has seen them with there own eyes??? if not i'd say whatever video you just watched is as fake as the moon landing (if that's the case of course before you start again lol)
my point is you don't know just like me but you accept what you've been told (fine)and i question it (which should also be fime btw)and now your getting it a lil bit personal name calling why?
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think then you and the people who made the program arent realy very clever are you? all the arguments saying false are easily countered but how do you counter the fact that the appollo astronauts put mirrors on the surface of the moon which we still use today to measure the retrograde orbital decay of the moon? Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong landed on another planet lets hope we get there (and to other places) again in my life time me?? yes i am thank you very much
easy i'd say say show me one person that has seen them with there own eyes??? if not i'd say whatever video you just watched is as fake as the moon landing (if that's the case of course before you start again lol)
my point is you don't know just like me but you accept what you've been told (fine)and i question it (which should also be fime btw)and now your getting it a lil bit personal name calling why?
i'm not calling you names and say your stupid for believing it"I know because i have used a laser to measure the distance between the point of emision and the mirror placed on the lunar surface.... Id call that 1st hand evidence or do you think nasa can change the laws of physics? | |||
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"RIP,a true pioneer. conspiracy theorist answer me this. if there was no moon landing,where did all this moondust,in it's own genuine plastic orb (shaped exactly like the moon)that i've been buying from the internet come from,AHA!! proof irrefutable i think you'll find that im totally gaga . " | |||
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"RIP,a true pioneer. conspiracy theorist answer me this. if there was no moon landing,where did all this moondust,in it's own genuine plastic orb (shaped exactly like the moon)that i've been buying from the internet come from,AHA!! proof irrefutable i think you'll find that im totally gaga .
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think then you and the people who made the program arent realy very clever are you? all the arguments saying false are easily countered but how do you counter the fact that the appollo astronauts put mirrors on the surface of the moon which we still use today to measure the retrograde orbital decay of the moon? Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong landed on another planet lets hope we get there (and to other places) again in my life time me?? yes i am thank you very much
easy i'd say say show me one person that has seen them with there own eyes??? if not i'd say whatever video you just watched is as fake as the moon landing (if that's the case of course before you start again lol)
my point is you don't know just like me but you accept what you've been told (fine)and i question it (which should also be fime btw)and now your getting it a lil bit personal name calling why?
i'm not calling you names and say your stupid for believing it I know because i have used a laser to measure the distance between the point of emision and the mirror placed on the lunar surface.... Id call that 1st hand evidence or do you think nasa can change the laws of physics?"yeah alright mate i believe you lol  | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think then you and the people who made the program arent realy very clever are you? all the arguments saying false are easily countered but how do you counter the fact that the appollo astronauts put mirrors on the surface of the moon which we still use today to measure the retrograde orbital decay of the moon? Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong landed on another planet lets hope we get there (and to other places) again in my life time me?? yes i am thank you very much
easy i'd say say show me one person that has seen them with there own eyes??? if not i'd say whatever video you just watched is as fake as the moon landing (if that's the case of course before you start again lol)
my point is you don't know just like me but you accept what you've been told (fine)and i question it (which should also be fime btw)and now your getting it a lil bit personal name calling why?
i'm not calling you names and say your stupid for believing it I know because i have used a laser to measure the distance between the point of emision and the mirror placed on the lunar surface.... Id call that 1st hand evidence or do you think nasa can change the laws of physics?
yeah alright mate i believe you lol "So are you saying I didnt go on a school trip or are you saying that the laser we pointed diddnt tell us the distance to the moon to the light pico second? | |||
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"RIP This thread will bring up some interesting theories. Did he go to the moon? I don't know for sure but I think if he didn't then the Soviets would have made a big show of exposing it i agree but maybe they were just fooled like the rest of the world lol i remember a program on it not long back explaning why the moon landing was fake in particular the video and they had some pretty strong evidence i know what i think then you and the people who made the program arent realy very clever are you? all the arguments saying false are easily countered but how do you counter the fact that the appollo astronauts put mirrors on the surface of the moon which we still use today to measure the retrograde orbital decay of the moon? Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong landed on another planet lets hope we get there (and to other places) again in my life time me?? yes i am thank you very much
easy i'd say say show me one person that has seen them with there own eyes??? if not i'd say whatever video you just watched is as fake as the moon landing (if that's the case of course before you start again lol)
my point is you don't know just like me but you accept what you've been told (fine)and i question it (which should also be fime btw)and now your getting it a lil bit personal name calling why?
i'm not calling you names and say your stupid for believing it I know because i have used a laser to measure the distance between the point of emision and the mirror placed on the lunar surface.... Id call that 1st hand evidence or do you think nasa can change the laws of physics?
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So are you saying I didnt go on a school trip or are you saying that the laser we pointed diddnt tell us the distance to the moon to the light pico second?"i'm say alright mate i believe you lol
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"neil armstrong a name that will never be forgotten,no one elses name will be remebered like his EVER. what he did surpases any other acheivment by man to the hoaxers,any and every argument put forward has been shown to be easily corrected with little more than a bit of logic or school science, the evidence for is complete and total very sad news ,but one day we will return and hopefully drop off his ashes and bring back a piece of the eagle to gouge out the eyes of the nay sayers" Why would you want to "Gouge out the eyes of nay say's"? Differences in opinion make for good debate or are you one of the “Don’t do as I do, do as I say” brigade?  | |||
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"the first man on the moon has passed away. RIP x" i remember watching it on telly at school when i was a kid, the moon landings that is | |||
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"neil armstrong a name that will never be forgotten,no one elses name will be remebered like his EVER. what he did surpases any other acheivment by man to the hoaxers,any and every argument put forward has been shown to be easily corrected with little more than a bit of logic or school science, the evidence for is complete and total very sad news ,but one day we will return and hopefully drop off his ashes and bring back a piece of the eagle to gouge out the eyes of the nay sayers Why would you want to "Gouge out the eyes of nay say's"? Differences in opinion make for good debate or are you one of the “Don’t do as I do, do as I say” brigade? "The flat earth society don't have an opinion,they speak nothing but lies and crap. Moon hoaxers don't speak even remotely a piece of truth.they talk the spin from the few Anti government conspirasists who started this lie.the net was a lifeline to these loons. | |||
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"Pork.they have laughable reasons to everything.they say they were placed by radio control. The original moon photos have had the mountains matched by recent jaxa photos taken.there is no way in 1969 NASA knew how the landscape looked in such detail. The van allen belt is brought up time and time again but the radiation is far below recommended max for a worker in those situations.the whole mission was tracked by numerous seperate space agencies including Russia who knew they went.jodrell bank tracked it.Australia,Portugal and numerous others. The amount of people involved it was a hoax,so many would have come out by now.they would still.have needed the rocket which was seen and heard for miles around. The actual video footage could not have been cgi in 1969. The hoaxers just want to be differnt and look clever.even when they return they will dismiss it.I'd only to tell themselves they hadn't spent the last how mny years crying about it." There are many universities, observatories etc (even private enthusiasts) in this country alone, who have telescopes powerful enough to be able to see much of the hardware and man-made debris left by the astronauts on the Moon. The simple question for all the Conspiracy Theorists is....How the f**k did it get there???? No doubt if you asked the CT's to list their top ten films, probably all would have Capricorn One in there somewhere......
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"Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon in our lifetime but prior to our big bang, there may have been another and another etc and perhaps there was another Neil Armstrong who, perhaps walked on some of the same soil, and perhaps the soil he walked on was called earth lol " I like the way your mind works. Maybe in a parallel universe you or me were the first to walk on the moon! If that's true then on another parallel universe somewhere someon has faked it.... | |||
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"Okay, Conspiracy Theorists, would you kindly take a look at this link.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment The laser reflectors placed on the Moons surface by a number of Apollo missions are still there, still in operation (and will be for as long as the Moon exists) and can be used by ANYONE on Earth - provided they have access to the necessary equipment - to laser range the Moon. They were placed there to allow on-going measurement of the Moons distance from Earth to see over time how the Moons orbit changes and whether it is heading towards Earth, or away from us. If the Apollo missions did NOT go to the moon, and given that these reflectors require assembly in-situ on the Moons surface, could you please explain how they got there? They are also _iewable with a sufficiently powerful telescope.... Go on - get out of that one..... "The Russians and Chinese have their own reflectors on the moon....even though the Americans put their own reflector there with a manned mission. | |||
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"Okay, Conspiracy Theorists, would you kindly take a look at this link.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment The laser reflectors placed on the Moons surface by a number of Apollo missions are still there, still in operation (and will be for as long as the Moon exists) and can be used by ANYONE on Earth - provided they have access to the necessary equipment - to laser range the Moon. They were placed there to allow on-going measurement of the Moons distance from Earth to see over time how the Moons orbit changes and whether it is heading towards Earth, or away from us. If the Apollo missions did NOT go to the moon, and given that these reflectors require assembly in-situ on the Moons surface, could you please explain how they got there? They are also _iewable with a sufficiently powerful telescope.... Go on - get out of that one..... The Russians and Chinese have their own reflectors on the moon....even though the Americans put their own reflector there with a manned mission."Yes, but have you seen the size of the American ones??? Lol! The Ruskies left their first reflector when the Lunakhod explorer went there (also still up there) in the early 70's. The US ones are a much more elaborate affair (typical!!) 
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"Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon in our lifetime but prior to our big bang, there may have been another and another etc and perhaps there was another Neil Armstrong who, perhaps walked on some of the same soil, and perhaps the soil he walked on was called earth lol " http://robinbrown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/double-facepalm1.jpg That's how I feel about this whole thread but this comment in particular. | |||
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"I still think its disrespectful that this thread has turned into a debate instead of the original intention of giving someone the decency of bidding them a restfull passing." ^This too. I got distracted by the epic stupidity. RIP Neil. | |||
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"I still think its disrespectful that this thread has turned into a debate instead of the original intention of giving someone the decency of bidding them a restfull passing." Actually, you're quite right. RIP Neil Armstrong..... Boldly go...
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"Here's a thought. Maybe no one has gone back because there is fuck all there! The next logical step is landing on Mars. Rip Neil Armstrong, a true pioneer and explorer" Actually, the surface of the moon is rich in Helium-3 which we're going to need if we want to crack nuclear fusion. | |||
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"Here's a thought. Maybe no one has gone back because there is fuck all there! The next logical step is landing on Mars. Rip Neil Armstrong, a true pioneer and explorer Actually, the surface of the moon is rich in Helium-3 which we're going to need if we want to crack nuclear fusion. " True...and we can only speculate as to why it is there..how it got there and what is below the surface or why it rang like a bell for twenty minutes when a probe was sent crashing into it. | |||
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"Here's a thought. Maybe no one has gone back because there is fuck all there! The next logical step is landing on Mars. Rip Neil Armstrong, a true pioneer and explorer Actually, the surface of the moon is rich in Helium-3 which we're going to need if we want to crack nuclear fusion. True...and we can only speculate as to why it is there..how it got there and what is below the surface or why it rang like a bell for twenty minutes when a probe was sent crashing into it." It's there because it was carried by solar winds from the sun and as the moon has no appreciable atmosphere to deflect it, it settled on the surface. As for the moon "ringing like a bell" we get the same effect on earth after an earthquake, they're called aftershocks. | |||
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"Here's a thought. Maybe no one has gone back because there is fuck all there! The next logical step is landing on Mars. Rip Neil Armstrong, a true pioneer and explorer Actually, the surface of the moon is rich in Helium-3 which we're going to need if we want to crack nuclear fusion. True...and we can only speculate as to why it is there..how it got there and what is below the surface or why it rang like a bell for twenty minutes when a probe was sent crashing into it. It's there because it was carried by solar winds from the sun and as the moon has no appreciable atmosphere to deflect it, it settled on the surface. As for the moon "ringing like a bell" we get the same effect on earth after an earthquake, they're called aftershocks. " But thats just an assumption....not proof. | |||
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"But thats just an assumption....not proof." You're asking a lot on here... lol
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"But thats just an assumption....not proof. You're asking a lot on here... lol
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"But thats just an assumption....not proof. You're asking a lot on here... lol
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That the problem with a good mystery....so many theories by so many...we assume someone is right..but intil proven,we can only speculate."Ok then, what's your theory? And I you spout something from David Ickes books I will actually die laughing. | |||
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"But thats just an assumption....not proof. You're asking a lot on here... lol
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That the problem with a good mystery....so many theories by so many...we assume someone is right..but intil proven,we can only speculate.
Ok then, what's your theory?
And I you spout something from David Ickes books I will actually die laughing. "Save ya laughter wiseboy,i don't read his shit...the moon is an unanswered enigma...so who knows...not me or you know why it is there...and i have no theory. | |||
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"Okay, Conspiracy Theorists, would you kindly take a look at this link.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment The laser reflectors placed on the Moons surface by a number of Apollo missions are still there, still in operation (and will be for as long as the Moon exists) and can be used by ANYONE on Earth - provided they have access to the necessary equipment - to laser range the Moon. They were placed there to allow on-going measurement of the Moons distance from Earth to see over time how the Moons orbit changes and whether it is heading towards Earth, or away from us. If the Apollo missions did NOT go to the moon, and given that these reflectors require assembly in-situ on the Moons surface, could you please explain how they got there? They are also _iewable with a sufficiently powerful telescope.... Go on - get out of that one..... "ok everyone who believes the americans landed on the moon and were equiped with only 1 hasselblad cameras and 1 16mm movie camera which never once jammed like they do on earth .how did neil armstrong take 327 pictures with perfect clarity .also it was 35mm film and seeing they only spent 2hours 57 minutes on the moons surface ,and only once left the lunar module once and re entered once how would he have changed 7 rolls of film in temperatures ranging from +200 degrees celcius in the light and -200 celcius in the shade and not once dropped lost a single roll and not one pic was over exposed or indeed melted in such temperatures .you cannot get round science and physics .and lastly we all remember the final footage of the lunar landing blasting off the moons surface and heading upwards to re join the lim .housed by michael collins.well the footage was perfectly centred as the camera panned upwards.well all you believers tell me who they left on the surface to film this as a remote camera was not possible and indeed how then did they retieve the 16mm film from the camera after the module had left the surface ,or did they reland to get it back .sorry i am not stupid its common sense what the americans never thought of 43 years ago is that one day people would be saying "hang on a minute how did they do this or that ect" point said sorry if its not what people want to hear | |||
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"Okay, Conspiracy Theorists, would you kindly take a look at this link.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment The laser reflectors placed on the Moons surface by a number of Apollo missions are still there, still in operation (and will be for as long as the Moon exists) and can be used by ANYONE on Earth - provided they have access to the necessary equipment - to laser range the Moon. They were placed there to allow on-going measurement of the Moons distance from Earth to see over time how the Moons orbit changes and whether it is heading towards Earth, or away from us. If the Apollo missions did NOT go to the moon, and given that these reflectors require assembly in-situ on the Moons surface, could you please explain how they got there? They are also _iewable with a sufficiently powerful telescope.... Go on - get out of that one..... ok everyone who believes the americans landed on the moon and were equiped with only 1 hasselblad cameras and 1 16mm movie camera which never once jammed like they do on earth .how did neil armstrong take 327 pictures with perfect clarity .also it was 35mm film and seeing they only spent 2hours 57 minutes on the moons surface ,and only once left the lunar module once and re entered once how would he have changed 7 rolls of film in temperatures ranging from +200 degrees celcius in the light and -200 celcius in the shade and not once dropped lost a single roll and not one pic was over exposed or indeed melted in such temperatures .you cannot get round science and physics .and lastly we all remember the final footage of the lunar landing blasting off the moons surface and heading upwards to re join the lim .housed by michael collins.well the footage was perfectly centred as the camera panned upwards.well all you believers tell me who they left on the surface to film this as a remote camera was not possible and indeed how then did they retieve the 16mm film from the camera after the module had left the surface ,or did they reland to get it back .sorry i am not stupid its common sense what the americans never thought of 43 years ago is that one day people would be saying "hang on a minute how did they do this or that ect" point said sorry if its not what people want to hear "Now I know you've already made up your mind, and I guess watching conspiracy theorists on Sky is a lot more entertaining than reading the sciencey stuff behind the moon landings, but have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories Of course, like most conspiracy theorists you've made up your own minds already. But it's worth a shot. Now, if you want to post this in another post and leave this one for the people who want to pay their respects to someone who was awesome, that would be just dandy. Thanks. | |||
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"Sorry i have not read all of the thread but just wanted to say RIP to Mr Armstrong ,evidently a truly humble man who was just grateful to have been give given the opportunity to make "a giant leap for mankind" Sleep well sir ." | |||
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"Here's a thought. Maybe no one has gone back because there is fuck all there! The next logical step is landing on Mars. Rip Neil Armstrong, a true pioneer and explorer Actually, the surface of the moon is rich in Helium-3 which we're going to need if we want to crack nuclear fusion. " thats very true and while we strip mine it we can also get a few other materials from the sub strata. Regolith can be used for construction material and oxygen can be baked out for atmosphere......Other volatiles can be obtained from NEOs (water ice asteroids and carbonacious conderites can be reasonably soft landed into tze gravity well without huge amounts of delta v). The big advantage of operating from the lunal surface is the low gravity needed to get into orbit, it only takes a 3rd as much acceleration to get off surface and is easier to slingshot from earth than the moon..... Mars is a tough proposition but much easier from the moon than the earth.... | |||
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"one day people will be talking about the death of the first man to land on mars.cant see any more planets been visited after that" Oh I dont know...... Titan has an atmosphere full of petrol (or at least hydrocarbons.....)..... Europa has lots (and lots and lots and lots) of water some of which is probably liquid which make them as atractive as mars (if not more attractive, both are geologicaly active, have magnetic fields and nether would need huge imports of base elements to make them viable sites for colonies). You can make a case that if you wanted to teraform Mars you would need to go to both of these places to get the material to top up mars's atmosphere..... | |||
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"Here's a thought. Maybe no one has gone back because there is fuck all there! The next logical step is landing on Mars. Rip Neil Armstrong, a true pioneer and explorer" Why whats on Mars? | |||
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"Here's a thought. Maybe no one has gone back because there is fuck all there! The next logical step is landing on Mars. Rip Neil Armstrong, a true pioneer and explorer Why whats on Mars?" about a quarter of the earths surface in fairly dramatic if curruntly unuseable real estate..... | |||
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"I actually thought he died many moons ago "Nah, that was Keith | |||
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"one day people will be talking about the death of the first man to land on mars.cant see any more planets been visited after that" Oi, The Neptune is one I always visit on my weekly stagger home  | |||
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"Okay, Conspiracy Theorists, would you kindly take a look at this link.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment The laser reflectors placed on the Moons surface by a number of Apollo missions are still there, still in operation (and will be for as long as the Moon exists) and can be used by ANYONE on Earth - provided they have access to the necessary equipment - to laser range the Moon. They were placed there to allow on-going measurement of the Moons distance from Earth to see over time how the Moons orbit changes and whether it is heading towards Earth, or away from us. If the Apollo missions did NOT go to the moon, and given that these reflectors require assembly in-situ on the Moons surface, could you please explain how they got there? They are also _iewable with a sufficiently powerful telescope.... Go on - get out of that one..... ok everyone who believes the americans landed on the moon and were equiped with only 1 hasselblad cameras and 1 16mm movie camera which never once jammed like they do on earth .how did neil armstrong take 327 pictures with perfect clarity .also it was 35mm film and seeing they only spent 2hours 57 minutes on the moons surface ,and only once left the lunar module once and re entered once how would he have changed 7 rolls of film in temperatures ranging from +200 degrees celcius in the light and -200 celcius in the shade and not once dropped lost a single roll and not one pic was over exposed or indeed melted in such temperatures .you cannot get round science and physics .and lastly we all remember the final footage of the lunar landing blasting off the moons surface and heading upwards to re join the lim .housed by michael collins.well the footage was perfectly centred as the camera panned upwards.well all you believers tell me who they left on the surface to film this as a remote camera was not possible and indeed how then did they retieve the 16mm film from the camera after the module had left the surface ,or did they reland to get it back .sorry i am not stupid its common sense what the americans never thought of 43 years ago is that one day people would be saying "hang on a minute how did they do this or that ect" point said sorry if its not what people want to hear "if you did a bit of research you would find lots of photos were of poor quality,lots were cropped to centre a subject. they were trained how to use the camera,which had a small aperature and large lens,so focusing is not a major worry(also answers the no stars idea) longer exposure pics were taken of earth and stars are visable. while pics are the subject the l.r.o took photos of the module left on the moon and at sunrise/set the shadows are clearly visable. next.
there are so many very good sites that answer every question the hoaxers come up with.
these use science to back up their claims rather than internet gossip | |||
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"Okay, Conspiracy Theorists, would you kindly take a look at this link.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment The laser reflectors placed on the Moons surface by a number of Apollo missions are still there, still in operation (and will be for as long as the Moon exists) and can be used by ANYONE on Earth - provided they have access to the necessary equipment - to laser range the Moon. They were placed there to allow on-going measurement of the Moons distance from Earth to see over time how the Moons orbit changes and whether it is heading towards Earth, or away from us. If the Apollo missions did NOT go to the moon, and given that these reflectors require assembly in-situ on the Moons surface, could you please explain how they got there? They are also _iewable with a sufficiently powerful telescope.... Go on - get out of that one..... ok everyone who believes the americans landed on the moon and were equiped with only 1 hasselblad cameras and 1 16mm movie camera which never once jammed like they do on earth .how did neil armstrong take 327 pictures with perfect clarity .also it was 35mm film and seeing they only spent 2hours 57 minutes on the moons surface ,and only once left the lunar module once and re entered once how would he have changed 7 rolls of film in temperatures ranging from +200 degrees celcius in the light and -200 celcius in the shade and not once dropped lost a single roll and not one pic was over exposed or indeed melted in such temperatures .you cannot get round science and physics .and lastly we all remember the final footage of the lunar landing blasting off the moons surface and heading upwards to re join the lim .housed by michael collins.well the footage was perfectly centred as the camera panned upwards.well all you believers tell me who they left on the surface to film this as a remote camera was not possible and indeed how then did they retieve the 16mm film from the camera after the module had left the surface ,or did they reland to get it back .sorry i am not stupid its common sense what the americans never thought of 43 years ago is that one day people would be saying "hang on a minute how did they do this or that ect" point said sorry if its not what people want to hear
if you did a bit of research you would find lots of photos were of poor quality,lots were cropped to centre a subject.
they were trained how to use the camera,which had a small aperature and large lens,so focusing is not a major worry(also answers the no stars idea)
longer exposure pics were taken of earth and stars are visable.
while pics are the subject
the l.r.o took photos of the module left on the moon and at sunrise/set the shadows are clearly visable.
next.
there are so many very good sites that answer every question the hoaxers come up with.
these use science to back up their claims rather than internet gossip"Apologies for usurping the thread to Neil Armstrong again, but there is another inaccuracy in the statement above. Apollo 11's launch of Eagle to rejoin the command module was NOT filmed. Only film taken from one of the windows of the LEM (Lunar Excursion Module) by Buzz Aldrin was taken on 11. The first take-off of a LEM from the lunar surface was on Apollo 16, and this was done with live colour video from a static camera aimed at the LEM, on a tripod on the Moons surface. That camera is still there, for what should be obvious reasons. Actually remember very clearly watching that event live on TV when it happened. | |||
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"pork.it goes to show how people will read one site and believe the conspiracists who by nature of their beliefs will mislead and distort. it only takes a little effort to scan websites to find the actuall answers to hoaxer bullshit i dont think we should appologise for seemingly hijacking a thread but lies about neils achievments need putting straight" True. Grant you that one..... | |||
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"Who are your heros? How would you feel if their achievements were rubished? and not even rubished in a reasonable way but using the most idiotic terms and weakest arguments possible? take it easy? No, id sugest grow up and allow people to show respect to a man who participated in one of humanities greatest ever technical achievements...." see that is just what i was talking about | |||
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Don't give a flying fuck about the conspiracy theorists, I was born in '67 and my mam insists I can't remember any of the moon landings, but I remember it being on our humungous sized telly and my relatives talking about it - although I think they were both more bothered about the safe arrival of my kid sister approx 10 days earlier
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"Troll" lmao if you say so but i say chill out relax | |||
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"Sorry, but for once I haven't read the whole thread!!!! Have been at a sex party all weekend and someone mentioned the sad passing of Neil Armstrong and one of my first thoughts was "Who's gonna do the RIP thread on the forums????" View hs truly taken on StuScotland's mantle (so long as it doesn't clash with the rest of his gear......)
Don't give a flying fuck about the conspiracy theorists, I was born in '67 and my mam insists I can't remember any of the moon landings, but I remember it being on our humungous sized telly and my relatives talking about it - although I think they were both more bothered about the safe arrival of my kid sister approx 10 days earlier
RIP Neil Armstrong - apparently a gentleman and a pioneer"+1 | |||
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