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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Good morning!

Due to some health issues I have been advised to try cutting out gluten, dairy and red meat for a time.

Has anyone tried cutting out any of the above and did you notice any difference in your body and health?

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

I don't eat meat anyway and had to cut out dairy many years ago when breastfeeding, as my children were dairy intolerant and "contaminated" breast milk made them ill.

For a couple of days I had terrible headaches and cold symptoms, but soon felt much better and also lost weight. I've never gone back to having dairy on my cereal or on hot drinks but have it with other things.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't eat meat anyway and had to cut out dairy many years ago when breastfeeding, as my children were dairy intolerant and "contaminated" breast milk made them ill.

Did you go back to cheese?

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
over a year ago

Manchester(ish).

"Good morning!

Due to some health issues I have been advised to try cutting out gluten, dairy and red meat for a time.

Has anyone tried cutting out any of the above and did you notice any difference in your body and health? "

Exclusion regimes can be really helpful to pinpoint what triggers you and your digestion problems. It can be really tricky to do well and safely though. I'd find a recommendation for someone to help you. Can you go through and get NHS Dietician support as a starting point?? Or a registered dietician?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I need red meat to survive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I gave up gluten and felt better but I love bread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good morning!

Due to some health issues I have been advised to try cutting out gluten, dairy and red meat for a time.

Has anyone tried cutting out any of the above and did you notice any difference in your body and health? "

I'm cutting gluten and soy and theres definitely a difference. When I tried gluten free before I was worse. But then realised a lot of gluten free products contain soy.

I'm also lactose free and caffine free. Have been lactose free for years on end and caffine free for probably half the time.

For gluten free I've been going for buckwheat products and noticed I'm doing much better. I need to be more rigid though as sometimes I cave in to sweet treats.

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

"I don't eat meat anyway and had to cut out dairy many years ago when breastfeeding, as my children were dairy intolerant and "contaminated" breast milk made them ill.

Did you go back to cheese?

After a while. It took some getting used to and would make me feel a bit sick/sweaty at first. I remember thinking cake made with butter tasted like cheese when I was first reintroducing it.

I think with most dietry eliminations, it's best to do them one at a time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to cut out red meat and dairy 6 months of the year.

You really can feel the benefits of it, but I think each body will react differently. Some bodies really crave red meat and kinda need it 5o function. But it's all about trial and error. Just do t do anything that will cause you further issues.

You got this. I have faith. I'll keep my eye out for updates.

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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

Take a look at the low fodmap, some excellent dietary information on there, and lots of recipe suggestions

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Good morning!

Due to some health issues I have been advised to try cutting out gluten, dairy and red meat for a time.

Has anyone tried cutting out any of the above and did you notice any difference in your body and health?

I am waiting to hear what they suggest but have tried one before and didn't get great help or answers

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thanks for everyone's input

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fodmap diet can useful for eliminating foods But you need a dietician to support you with it. Really depends on the reasons behind cutting foods out though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't eliminate all at once. Do it slowly and gradually. It wont shock your system. I've been veggie for a while now and feel much better for it, lots of alternatives avaliable. Dairy is my next step but I love cheese so much!

Good luck on your journey.

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

I also cut milk, most cheeses, bread and most meat although I do still eat fish, my top tip is don’t use soy products, I have almond or other nut milks, and I have fish maybe twice a week.

At the weekend I had a few slices of toasted tiger bread, it was lovely at the time but OMG my stomach is in knots

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

Good luck with that. I would starve if I did that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I (M) cut gluten out 6 months ago because I have coeliac disease and I've never felt better.

It was hard at first and because wheat and gluten are in almost everything you're likely to experience withdrawal symptoms (you'll probably also have difficulty finding GF products that work for you at first). However, if it is gluten you need to cut out long-term you will get used to GF food and it will become your 'normal' if that makes sense?

If you want any recommendations or advice I am happy to help, there isn't a huge selection of GF foods at the supermarkets and I generally know what's good now, so just drop me a message anytime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When i went from veggie to vegan a few years ago i was surprised to find my blood levels improved (iron, calcium) and generally i found i had more energy and strength. I noticed a decrease in colds (but that could just be that i avoided sick colleagues/friends)

My body shape changed - i became more lean and my skin changed according to colleagues who scrutinised me daily in case i died from lack of nutrients

My cholesterol also lowered and my 'good' cholestrol levels increased

My vit D was through the floor around 3 years ago, but i didn't realise that everyone in UK should be taking vit D supplements.. So that is better now

i use KOKO unsweetened in my tea - it's the closest I've found to cows milk for my palate.

Alpro flavoured yogurts are great and their unsweetened yogurt is great for naan breads

Richmond sausages are amazeballs and squeaky bean deli slices are great for sandwiches (all in supermarkets).

Naturli spreadable is the best non dairy butter alternative (supermarkets)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't eliminate all at once. Do it slowly and gradually. It wont shock your system. I've been veggie for a while now and feel much better for it, lots of alternatives avaliable. Dairy is my next step but I love cheese so much!

Good luck on your journey."

No disrespect here, but this is bad advice and unless you're making a dietary change through choice alone (which OP isn't) I wouldn't advise anyone to follow it.

When a doctor advises you to cut something out, they generally mean completely and ASAP. The reason being if people have undetected allergies or other serious conditions, they could be putting themselves at serious risk every time they eat whatever food is triggering their symptoms. This was the case with myself because I was having an allergic reaction to wheat (on top of Coeliacs) every time I ate it and at its worst my throat would tighten and I would have difficulty breathing.

If a doctor advises you to cut something out, you cut it out. If they advise you to phase it out, you phase it out.

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By *an hjCouple
over a year ago

Stowmarket

Other half is dairy intolerant, can have goats milk though, seems the molecules are nearer to humans milk, so gut copes with it ok.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

As a woman be very careful about cutting large food groups out. It’s much riskier for women in general. Make sure you are getting the stuff you need from other sources

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By *ornyGCCouple
over a year ago

Slaithwaite

We are both fully vegan and have all the exact same benefits. We recently had a 4 hour full medical and in exceptional health as a result.

Watch “what the health” on Netflix

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are both fully vegan and have all the exact same benefits. We recently had a 4 hour full medical and in exceptional health as a result.

Watch “what the health” on Netflix "

I just had my 360+ medical and got above average /excellent for all my categories too yaaayyy

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By *lasphemousGirlWoman
over a year ago

Cambs

My OH is dairy and gluten free for health reasons it's made such a big difference to him to cut them out, he tried cutting lactose but he can't have either protein in milk so is completely dairy free now, he's also following low fodmap foods at the moment and the difference since the gluten was removed from his diet was amazing, so much more energy once he got used to it. We totally reinvented how we cook and eat,good luck OP it's extremely difficult but we'll worth the effort x

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I think it’s very good advice OP. Dairy and gluten are extremely problematic for health , our bodies haven’t evolved for that kind of diet. and reducing red meat is always good to do, I have once a week max, and smaller amounts.

You should learn to tune in to what you need , try eating with your eyes closed and shopping in places where the food isn’t in plastic you become more intuitive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yepp, I'm vegan so I don't eat meat or dairy anyway, but I've also experimented with cutting out gluten.

Going vegan made a huge difference in how I felt (more energy, clearer skin, I was no longer anemic) but I didn't find that gluten made that much difference, except a bit less bloating. But I didn't think it was worth it because I found meals less satisfying, so I went back to having gluten.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tried to go meat free for a few months but it wasn’t right for my body. I don’t eat a lot of meat to begin with but I was mainly having veg meals and all. I was lacking B12 so bad, so I started to take supplements but I kept getting cold sores (which I never ever had before in my life)

So I stopped

My reason to stop eating meat was to more moral than anything. I’ve started again but I try to eat it like 3 times a week only and it’s mainly white.

Id say try it out and see how your body reacts to it, if you feel better great, if you don’t, maybe readd something

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good luck on your journey.

No disrespect here, but this is bad advice and unless you're making a dietary change through choice alone (which OP isn't) I wouldn't advise anyone to follow it.

If a doctor advises you to cut something out, you cut it out. If they advise you to phase it out, you phase it out."

It’s not just about that, it’s about the op struggling to find good to eat, and feeling overwhelmed with cutting it all out.

It’s easy to fail when your meaning such a huge change, plus your body will have a greater reaction.

It’s far better to cut out one thing at a time, and adjust slowly, unless it is actually something like coeliac. The op has been eating these foods all her life presumably.

Op- I did it, I took out one group at a time, adjusted to the change, found alternatives and then moved it the next group.

I have had to add meat back in, as I’m really not doing well physically (not due to diet).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Again, thank you everyone. I am reading all the posts and taking advice. I am not going full on strict gluten but bread and pasta just make me feel crappy. I went shopping ladt night and there were more options than I thought regarding Dairy.

Meat at the moment is just cutting out processed meat and lowering red meat, which I don't have often anyway.

My hormones and weight are all over the place so trying to make all of this as positive as possible as the whole thing is getting me quite down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Again, thank you everyone. I am reading all the posts and taking advice. I am not going full on strict gluten but bread and pasta just make me feel crappy. I went shopping ladt night and there were more options than I thought regarding Dairy.

Meat at the moment is just cutting out processed meat and lowering red meat, which I don't have often anyway.

My hormones and weight are all over the place so trying to make all of this as positive as possible as the whole thing is getting me quite down. "

If you are going to make changes then go the whole hog. Cut gluten completely you can always try adding a small amount in again after a few months to compare.

If been gf for years and went df due to the menopause, just couldn't tolerate it anymore. The past month I have tried lactose free milk in my tea and lf cheese and seem OK.

Lost weight too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can use rice pasta instead of pasta. It’s gluten free and I think it’s really nice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, I stopped red meat, chocolate and caffeine 2 years ago and noticed a difference about 4 weeks later

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good luck on your journey.

No disrespect here, but this is bad advice and unless you're making a dietary change through choice alone (which OP isn't) I wouldn't advise anyone to follow it.

If a doctor advises you to cut something out, you cut it out. If they advise you to phase it out, you phase it out.

It’s not just about that, it’s about the op struggling to find good to eat, and feeling overwhelmed with cutting it all out.

It’s easy to fail when your meaning such a huge change, plus your body will have a greater reaction.

It’s far better to cut out one thing at a time, and adjust slowly, unless it is actually something like coeliac. The op has been eating these foods all her life presumably.

Op- I did it, I took out one group at a time, adjusted to the change, found alternatives and then moved it the next group.

I have had to add meat back in, as I’m really not doing well physically (not due to diet). "

You're right about it being easy to fail when it's such a big change, but nobody would have a negative reaction to cutting out any of the things OP mentioned.

Your body is likely to have a negative reaction if you continue eating those things and they happen to be the cause of symptoms.

OP clearly mentioned it was due to health problems, so the way to go about it is not what you suggested, but actually to cut all of them out completely for a few weeks (at least) and then slowly reintroduce foods to try and better identify the problem foods/food groups.

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By *inkyeroticaCouple
over a year ago

Ampthill

We are both vegan, so meet of any kind, dairy on any products derived from animals. Never felt better!

Where you advised to change your diet by a professional acting with full knowledge of your medical history? It's rather a big change to make. If it's to try pin point substances that give your body problems, I'd have expected a more singular approach to removing food items.

Contrary to popular misunderstanding, meet and dairy products are not required for a healthy balanced diet. Rather than lecture you, just do your own research.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, gave everything up for 6 months and then reintroduced stuff slowly. That way I discovered that I have a nightshade intolerance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Two of my very close family have Coeliac disease and so they must not have Gluten at all.

And they have to be careful about cross contamination.

One of them now ghas particularly bad reactions if any gluten gets into their body, and the most recent occasions has required the attention of Paramedics.

It's often the case that if you're having and gastronomic issues to cut out a numbr of foods and gradually reintroduce them one foodstuff at a time and see how your body reacts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just as a follow up, I have cut out milk, cheese and yoghurt, using dairy free options instead. Cheese is a bit strange

Have also cut out bread, pasta and crackers, going for gluten free options. I feel better already and many of the stomach problem have begun to lessen.

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