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E10 FUEL... will it be the death of classic vehicles

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By *ittleMissCali OP   Woman
over a year ago

all loved up

I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...

Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.

Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Designed to get people to buy new cars.. or even go electric..

Things are always evolving and changing .

I would probably say they will have to make alternative for classic cars ..

It was the same when we went from leaded to unleaded .. they made a additive to put in the unleaded. Then cars were also converted as well

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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago

Market Harborough/ Kettering

My motorbike has an E10 sticker on the tank so I'm guessing that means it will be ok?

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By *entleman Blue EyesMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden

Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?

I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x

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By *ittleMissCali OP   Woman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?

I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x"
I have two old alfas...

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By *entleman Blue EyesMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden

Oh nice.. I regret selling my Sud so much

64 Beetle and 54 R type should be OK. Xjs, mk1 Golf and Audi Quattro I'm worried about!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?

I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x I have two old alfas... "

How do you keep them on the road long enough to worry about fuel?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?

I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x I have two old alfas... "

Alfa’s? Aren’t they usually in a no. Running state anyway?

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

Oh cool at least i get to Google something that doesn't make me look like a huge perv.

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By *entleman Blue EyesMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden


"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?

I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x I have two old alfas...

Alfa’s? Aren’t they usually in a no. Running state anyway? "

Ahh but when they are... That's the magic. They're bonkers quirky and huge fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, its been in the rest of the world for years they all still have 99 oct fuel, as will we.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First by a cheap £200-300 pound banger that dose not support it throw it in see the results if not happy take to a fule map company see what they say

E85 can run in all engine and and any power just have to re map the fule to air

It’s amazing what a car will run on couple off YouTube channels do this sort off thing

Car will run on turpentine yes there’s more carbon buildup but handy if your stuck no gas place but a general hardware store

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By *ittleMissCali OP   Woman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Slightly dreading the outcome of it tbh. What are you running Cali?

I suspect my oldies will be OK but the early injection ones might be more problematic x I have two old alfas...

How do you keep them on the road long enough to worry about fuel?"
lol all 3 of my cars are alfas... including my day to day one.. they really aren't that bad

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By *ittleMissCali OP   Woman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Oh cool at least i get to Google something that doesn't make me look like a huge perv. "
hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Havnt really looked into this much I got a old Peugeot 205 but has a new engine in from the 306 so I'm hoping it will be fine just have to wait an see I guess

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By *ames blonde007Man
over a year ago

Enfield


"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...

Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.

Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle

"

The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.

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By *orny IrishMan
over a year ago

Rural Wiltshire


"First by a cheap £200-300 pound banger that dose not support it throw it in see the results if not happy take to a fule map company see what they say

E85 can run in all engine and and any power just have to re map the fule to air

It’s amazing what a car will run on couple off YouTube channels do this sort off thing

Car will run on turpentine yes there’s more carbon buildup but handy if your stuck no gas place but a general hardware store "

That is assuming it has electronic fuel injection and a ecu to control the mapping. A lot of older cars are carburettor only so no mapping and the aroused components may not be capable of handling E10.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Finedon ,

E5 petrol will still be available at most filling stations, it will be marked up as "Super" grade 97+ octane.

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By *entleman Blue EyesMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden


"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...

Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.

Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle

The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish."

Good to know thanks.

Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"First by a cheap £200-300 pound banger that dose not support it throw it in see the results if not happy take to a fule map company see what they say

E85 can run in all engine and and any power just have to re map the fule to air

It’s amazing what a car will run on couple off YouTube channels do this sort off thing

Car will run on turpentine yes there’s more carbon buildup but handy if your stuck no gas place but a general hardware store

That is assuming it has electronic fuel injection and a ecu to control the mapping. A lot of older cars are carburettor only so no mapping and the aroused components may not be capable of handling E10."

Carbs can be map with bigger and smaller jets to suit the air to fule ratio may need to get a aftermarket carb though that supports jet swapping

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By *ittleMissCali OP   Woman
over a year ago

all loved up


"E5 petrol will still be available at most filling stations, it will be marked up as "Super" grade 97+ octane."
for now... x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's been around in Europe since 2007. Vehicle manufacturers are aware of such changes around 10 years in advance so they are able to design their vehicles to be capable of running whatever fuels are available for their design life - around 10 to 15 years.

They've had E10 and even E85 in the United States since 1990, so anything designed forvtgat market since about 1980 should be fine.

Certainly seems to be a lot of scaremongering going on in the media about this.

My oldest car was built in 1996, but, as it's a Yank, it will be fine.

Anything of an age that may be a concern - and we're talking about fuel lines and hoses - it could be argued, should be having such components renewed in any case as part of a schedule of ongoing maintenance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh nice.. I regret selling my Sud so much

64 Beetle and 54 R type should be OK. Xjs, mk1 Golf and Audi Quattro I'm worried about! "

Actually, I would expect your XJS, Golf and Audi will probably be OK as they were all sold in America when they were bringing in E10 over there, and so it's highly likely that Jaguar and VW/Audi will have made the necesary changes across their entire product line up - though certainly worth looking into.

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By *londe BombsiteTV/TS
over a year ago

Stoney Stanton

My 1979 Mini probably won't run well on it. Not a great prospect.

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By *untocum1000TV/TS
over a year ago

newmarket

Love this post ....my two faves...classic cars and sex !!!

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By *ames blonde007Man
over a year ago

Enfield


"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...

Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.

Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle

The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.

Good to know thanks.

Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?

"

No mate appendix K is for serious racing such as hscc and the like they still run points and condenser and cross ply tyres.... im Just going to be hillclimbing and a bit of sprinting. But nonetheless I am running twin weber dcoe45s and an aldon electronic distributer.....the fueling and sparks will be set up on a rolling road.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

I've already had the fuel pipes changed on my VW camper

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By *untocum1000TV/TS
over a year ago

newmarket


"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...

Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.

Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle

The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.

Good to know thanks.

Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?

No mate appendix K is for serious racing such as hscc and the like they still run points and condenser and cross ply tyres.... im Just going to be hillclimbing and a bit of sprinting. But nonetheless I am running twin weber dcoe45s and an aldon electronic distributer.....the fueling and sparks will be set up on a rolling road. "

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By *untocum1000TV/TS
over a year ago

newmarket


"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...

Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.

Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle

The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.

Good to know thanks.

Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?

No mate appendix K is for serious racing such as hscc and the like they still run points and condenser and cross ply tyres.... im Just going to be hillclimbing and a bit of sprinting. But nonetheless I am running twin weber dcoe45s and an aldon electronic distributer.....the fueling and sparks will be set up on a rolling road. "
1966 mk 1 cortina ....mmmmmm im getting hard here with all this dirty talk !!!

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By *ames blonde007Man
over a year ago

Enfield


"I have 2 cars that will not run on the new e10, to be fair I'll be unlikely to run my 3rd car on it either...

Seems to have almost been snuck through, with barely any mention till the last minute.. and it will affect motorcycles more.

Yes if you have a car that wont run on it you can still put super but seems to me a way to make people get a newer vehicle

The E10 fuel will affect the rubber pipes in the fuel system. depending on what car you have it may just be as simple as changing all the fuel lines to a more modern spec rubber. The engines them selves will normally take the fuel. What cars are they? I'm building a 1966 mk1 cortina trackday car and will use super fuel anyway.but its the rubbers that will perish.

Good to know thanks.

Is your Cortina going to App K? Or is that no longer a thing?

No mate appendix K is for serious racing such as hscc and the like they still run points and condenser and cross ply tyres.... im Just going to be hillclimbing and a bit of sprinting. But nonetheless I am running twin weber dcoe45s and an aldon electronic distributer.....the fueling and sparks will be set up on a rolling road. 1966 mk 1 cortina ....mmmmmm im getting hard here with all this dirty talk !!!"

Yes quite...we call it car porn

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