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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not me. Got divorced and came to a sensible agreement with my ex and never a lawyer bothered the issue.

But we were both intelligent reasonable people. Lawyers are for those who can't handle their own shit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Not me. Got divorced and came to a sensible agreement with my ex and never a lawyer bothered the issue.

But we were both intelligent reasonable people. Lawyers are for those who can't handle their own shit. "

It's not a divorce case but glad you got good ones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not me. Got divorced and came to a sensible agreement with my ex and never a lawyer bothered the issue.

But we were both intelligent reasonable people. Lawyers are for those who can't handle their own shit.

It's not a divorce case but glad you got good ones "

I got married to somebody who wasn't an idiot and separated the same way. Amicably.

Your OP doesn't really make plain what the problem is, other than clever people making money off of less clever people?

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman
over a year ago

Manchester(ish).

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Sorry I don't agree.

They advise not decide.

They often deal with less than ideal or lose lose situations.

Not sure you can write them all off.

If yours isn't helping then highlight the issue and or change.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Not me. Got divorced and came to a sensible agreement with my ex and never a lawyer bothered the issue.

But we were both intelligent reasonable people. Lawyers are for those who can't handle their own shit.

It's not a divorce case but glad you got good ones

I got married to somebody who wasn't an idiot and separated the same way. Amicably.

Your OP doesn't really make plain what the problem is, other than clever people making money off of less clever people? "

Conveyancing.. they keep on sending me paper work without reading it

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

You are paying for their professional knowledge ….

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"Not me. Got divorced and came to a sensible agreement with my ex and never a lawyer bothered the issue.

But we were both intelligent reasonable people. Lawyers are for those who can't handle their own shit. "

Same here, why do I have an odd feeling they feed off discord emotions.

Have the same feeling about dentists and doctors/drugs companies,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Went litigant in person for 4yrs..

Removed 2 judges from case!

Girl power!

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"Not me. Got divorced and came to a sensible agreement with my ex and never a lawyer bothered the issue.

But we were both intelligent reasonable people. Lawyers are for those who can't handle their own shit. "

Same for me!! But I worked for lawyers who checked everything after we had agreed it. Saved a small fortune

J x

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Not me. Got divorced and came to a sensible agreement with my ex and never a lawyer bothered the issue.

But we were both intelligent reasonable people. Lawyers are for those who can't handle their own shit. "

Is the "can't handle their own shit" statement just relating to divorce law, or across the board?! I'd argue my 18yo did require professional representation when giving evidence against someone who attacked him and broke the bones in his face. The Police certainly were not a shred of help and would have dropped the case if he hadn't pushed and pushed, aided by legal advice from one of his friend's mothers. The assailant was eventually convicted....

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one..."

Then they find one and hate even more

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Then they find one and hate even more

I don't hate the ones I've had dealings with and my friends who are in that profession.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Then they find one and hate even more

I don't hate the ones I've had dealings with and my friends who are in that profession.

Hate is a big word.. I would appreciate if they read the paperwork properly and deal with it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Then they find one and hate even more

I don't hate the ones I've had dealings with and my friends who are in that profession.

Hate is a big word.. I would appreciate if they read the paperwork properly and deal with it. "

you've unfortunately got one who isn't doing their job properly.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one..."

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Then they find one and hate even more

I don't hate the ones I've had dealings with and my friends who are in that profession.

Hate is a big word.. I would appreciate if they read the paperwork properly and deal with it.

you've unfortunately got one who isn't doing their job properly. "

I called my lawyer and said I sent you an email and he replied it's only been 6 days lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

No bias there

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

good, I don't hate lawyers either.

I've got friends who are barristers, one was recently called to the bar v proud of him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

good, I don't hate lawyers either.

I've got friends who are barristers, one was recently called to the bar v proud of him

A barrister isn’t a lawyer though

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Then they find one and hate even more

I don't hate the ones I've had dealings with and my friends who are in that profession.

Hate is a big word.. I would appreciate if they read the paperwork properly and deal with it.

you've unfortunately got one who isn't doing their job properly.

I called my lawyer and said I sent you an email and he replied it's only been 6 days lol "

did you say he's dealing with conveyancing on your behalf? They're notoriously slow with that. we were lucky and had a really excellent man

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By *entleman Blue EyesMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden

Use lawyers a fair bit in my business.. Principally regulatory and normally in a consultative manner. But when I've needed them to step up they've been brilliant. Unfortunately they seem to be an exception to the rule and the rest, divorce, employment and ambulance chasers aaggghh!

But rest assured they wind each other up too. I witnessed said regulatory lawyer utterly loose his shit with his conveyancing solicitor... Made me feel a heap better lol

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

good, I don't hate lawyers either.

I've got friends who are barristers, one was recently called to the bar v proud of him

A barrister isn’t a lawyer though "

I thought solicitors and barristers were both lawyers

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

good, I don't hate lawyers either.

I've got friends who are barristers, one was recently called to the bar v proud of him

A barrister isn’t a lawyer though "

True, lawyers are money grabbing people with questionable parentage.

Barristers help them feel less guilty, m’lord.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Then they find one and hate even more

I don't hate the ones I've had dealings with and my friends who are in that profession.

Hate is a big word.. I would appreciate if they read the paperwork properly and deal with it.

you've unfortunately got one who isn't doing their job properly.

I called my lawyer and said I sent you an email and he replied it's only been 6 days lol

did you say he's dealing with conveyancing on your behalf? They're notoriously slow with that. we were lucky and had a really excellent man "

Slow I can understand these days with stamp duty holiday. They received the contract and sent it to me without reading for signing. Who does that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Use lawyers a fair bit in my business.. Principally regulatory and normally in a consultative manner. But when I've needed them to step up they've been brilliant. Unfortunately they seem to be an exception to the rule and the rest, divorce, employment and ambulance chasers aaggghh!

But rest assured they wind each other up too. I witnessed said regulatory lawyer utterly loose his shit with his conveyancing solicitor... Made me feel a heap better lol"

Got a taste of his own medicine

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Then they find one and hate even more

I don't hate the ones I've had dealings with and my friends who are in that profession.

Hate is a big word.. I would appreciate if they read the paperwork properly and deal with it.

you've unfortunately got one who isn't doing their job properly.

I called my lawyer and said I sent you an email and he replied it's only been 6 days lol

did you say he's dealing with conveyancing on your behalf? They're notoriously slow with that. we were lucky and had a really excellent man

Slow I can understand these days with stamp duty holiday. They received the contract and sent it to me without reading for signing. Who does that?

someone who is not payin attention

. We had someone elses will sent to us with a load of personal details

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

good, I don't hate lawyers either.

I've got friends who are barristers, one was recently called to the bar v proud of him

A barrister isn’t a lawyer though

True, lawyers are money grabbing people with questionable parentage.

Barristers help them feel less guilty, m’lord."

Oh can’t wait for this. Can you elaborate

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Then they find one and hate even more

I don't hate the ones I've had dealings with and my friends who are in that profession.

Hate is a big word.. I would appreciate if they read the paperwork properly and deal with it.

you've unfortunately got one who isn't doing their job properly.

I called my lawyer and said I sent you an email and he replied it's only been 6 days lol

did you say he's dealing with conveyancing on your behalf? They're notoriously slow with that. we were lucky and had a really excellent man

Slow I can understand these days with stamp duty holiday. They received the contract and sent it to me without reading for signing. Who does that?

someone who is not payin attention

. We had someone elses will sent to us with a load of personal details

There should be some accountability.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?"

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though?

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

When we've moved we have always had to chase on the paperwork, it's really annoying. It was awkward as my brother in law was our conveyancer. Can't really complain though he done it for a couple of hundred quid and a curry!

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

The best lawyer is the person in question who knows and understands what has occurred then it's following the procedure getting enough knowledge and defending their own position and adds a edge to it as you say what you intend on not what the other thinks of saying or using...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though? "

That’s a conveyancer. Not the same thing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though?

That’s a conveyancer. Not the same thing"

My bad. My lord

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though?

That’s a conveyancer. Not the same thing

My bad. My lord "

Now, that’s a judge

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though?

That’s a conveyancer. Not the same thing

My bad. My lord

Now, that’s a judge "

Hence I addressed you as my lord. You don't sell ice cream in winters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, you seem to be tarring all lawyers with the same brush. There are lots of different lawyers, and a range of ability (as with many professionals). Seems a bit unfair. Many people do not fully appreciate the reason why we have laws and particularly why they are so complicated. This leads to a sense of contempt for lawyers and/or a sense of begrudging when paying their fees for something that is actually quite complicated.

IS (not a Solicitor)

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister? "

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though?

That’s a conveyancer. Not the same thing

My bad. My lord

Now, that’s a judge

Hence I addressed you as my lord. You don't sell ice cream in winters. "

Maybe you should tell the endless desert places on just eat….if you see ice cream, you sell it all year round

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. "
totally wrong.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Wikipedia on licensed conveyancers: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licensed_conveyancer

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OP, you seem to be tarring all lawyers with the same brush. There are lots of different lawyers, and a range of ability (as with many professionals). Seems a bit unfair. Many people do not fully appreciate the reason why we have laws and particularly why they are so complicated. This leads to a sense of contempt for lawyers and/or a sense of begrudging when paying their fees for something that is actually quite complicated.

IS (not a Solicitor)"

Yeah it did sound like that. Sorry I'm a bit irritated by them today.

I know there are good and bad people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

IS (not a Solicitor)

Yeah it did sound like that. Sorry I'm a bit irritated by them today.

I know there are good and bad people. "

Why the frustration? What was the ball ache they caused today. May help the thread

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though?

That’s a conveyancer. Not the same thing

My bad. My lord

Now, that’s a judge

Hence I addressed you as my lord. You don't sell ice cream in winters.

Maybe you should tell the endless desert places on just eat….if you see ice cream, you sell it all year round"

McDonald's ice cream machine stops working for a reason

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

IS (not a Solicitor)

Yeah it did sound like that. Sorry I'm a bit irritated by them today.

I know there are good and bad people.

Why the frustration? What was the ball ache they caused today. May help the thread"

Let's not go into deep details.. everyone is on fab these days

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong. "

How so?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though?

That’s a conveyancer. Not the same thing

My bad. My lord

Now, that’s a judge

Hence I addressed you as my lord. You don't sell ice cream in winters.

Maybe you should tell the endless desert places on just eat….if you see ice cream, you sell it all year round

McDonald's ice cream machine stops working for a reason

McDonald’s legal cannot call it ice cream though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does everyone feel the same way? Why pay them when I have to read and highlight issues

Good question. Why pay them if you can do it? Why do you?

Because you need a lawyer for conveyancing. Never heard anybody doing it themselves. Can you though?

That’s a conveyancer. Not the same thing

My bad. My lord

Now, that’s a judge

Hence I addressed you as my lord. You don't sell ice cream in winters.

Maybe you should tell the endless desert places on just eat….if you see ice cream, you sell it all year round

McDonald's ice cream machine stops working for a reason

McDonald’s legal cannot call it ice cream though."

They do.. you wanna sue them?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?"

Beautiful eyes btw Saffron

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?"

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing"

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing"

Incorrect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect. "

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

says*"

Dude you are so wrong. I can't even tell you how wrong you are. You are wrong

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By *entleman Blue EyesMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden

IS (not a Solicitor)"

I'm with you Is... There is a huge range of skills and abilities. As you move into more specialist arenas so the complexity and (hopefully) competence increases. These guys and gals also tend to be aware that their business is repeat and they are only as good as their last job.

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research "

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

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Dude you are so wrong. I can't even tell you how wrong you are. You are wrong

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tell me. It’s fact. Use facts if you disagree

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

From Slater + Gordon (solicitors!)

What is a solicitor?

A solicitor is a qualified legal professional who provides expert legal advice and support to clients. A solicitor's clients can be individual people, groups, private companies or public sector organisations.

What does a solicitor do?

After taking instructions from clients, solicitors will advise on necessary courses of legal action depending on their areas of legal expertise. Most solicitors in the UK are primarily litigators, although many solicitors specialise in specific areas of law and some do their own advocacy cases.

solicitors work directly with clients and although specific work activities will naturally depend on the solicitor’s area of expertise, they typically involve conversing with clients to establish their firm’s suitability to provide the necessary legal advice and services, taking the client’s instructions and then advising them on the law and legal issues relating to their particular case.

Solicitors deal with all the paperwork and communication involved with their clients' cases, such as writing documents, letters and contracts tailored to their client’s needs; ensuring the accuracy of legal advice and procedure, and preparing papers for court.

Solicitors will also negotiate with clients and opposing parties to secure agreed objectives, gather evidence, supervise the implementation of agreements, calculate claims for damages, compensation, loss of earnings, maintenance etc., and co-ordinate the work of all parties involved in the case. Their work ranges across the whole spectrum of legal work from high value commercial work to personal injury cases, family law issues such as children law and divorce, criminal law and wills probate and the general administration of estates.

Solicitors represent clients in disputes and represent them in court if necessary. In complex disputes however, solicitors will often instruct barristers or specialist advocates to appear in court on behalf of their clients.

If a case goes to court, it is unlikely that a solicitor will represent their client although certain solicitors can appear in court as advocates. Instead, a solicitor will generally refer the work to a barrister or specialist advocate for expert advice or to instruct them to appear in court to represent the client.

What is a barrister?

A barrister generally provides specialist legal advice and represents individual people and organisations in courts and tribunals and through written legal advice.

What does a barrister do?

In general, barristers in England & Wales are hired by solicitors to represent a case in court and only become involved once advocacy before a court is needed. The role of a barrister is to "translate and structure their client's view of events into legal arguments and to make persuasive representations which obtain the best possible result for their client."

Barristers usually specialise in particular areas of law such as criminal law, chancery law (estates and trusts), commercial law, entertainment law, sports law and common law; which includes family law and divorce, housing and personal injury law.

Although a barrister’s work will vary considerably depending on their level of expertise and the area of law in which they practice, they will typically advise clients on the law and the strength of their case and provide them with a written ‘opinion’. Barristers will advocate on behalf of their clients and the client’s solicitor in court, presenting their case, examining and cross-examining witnesses and giving reasons why the court should support the case. They will then negotiate settlements with the other side.

Out of the estimated 15,500 barristers practising in England & Wales, around 80% are self-employed. Other barristers are employed, for example, in solicitors' firms advising clients directly, or in agencies such as the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), or in specialist legal departments in industry, commerce, charities or central or local government; advising only the organisations they work for.

On the whole, self-employed barristers work in offices known as Chambers which they may share with other barristers. After completing their training, many gain permanent positions known as tenancy in a ‘set’ of Chambers.

As barristers within a chambers are all independent from one another they can often act on different sides in the same legal dispute. In contrast, solicitors working at the same law firm would be prevented from doing the same as there would be a conflict of interest.

Barristers are kept independent and prevented from picking and choosing the cases they want to work on by what is known as the Cab Rank Rule. The Cab Rank Rule prohibits a barrister from refusing a case if, for example, they found the nature of the case objectionable or if they think the client has unacceptable conduct, opinions or beliefs or simply due to the source of the funding.

Generally self-employed barristers cannot be instructed directly by clients as they first need to be briefed by a solicitor. However, the exception to this is if the barrister is a member of the Public Access Scheme which enables a member of the public to go directly to a barrister for legal advice or representation.

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over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research "

Yes, good idea. Do some research and report back tomorrow morning by 9am sharp. Cheers

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

good, I don't hate lawyers either.

I've got friends who are barristers, one was recently called to the bar v proud of him

A barrister isn’t a lawyer though

True, lawyers are money grabbing people with questionable parentage.

Barristers help them feel less guilty, m’lord.

Oh can’t wait for this. Can you elaborate "

‘Twas tongue in cheek, there are massive differences in in all levels and types of areas and people who represent the law.

I studied law (international contract law)

For a great number of years, appears the law hasn’t developed a sense of humour yet.

If you mention Carbolic Smoke, I’ll block you!

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over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research. "

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information

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over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

says*

Dude you are so wrong. I can't even tell you how wrong you are. You are wrong

tell me. It’s fact. Use facts if you disagree "

It's 13 minutes to 1am. 12 minutes to now

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over a year ago

"everyone hates lawyers until they need one...

Not strictly true, son is looking to be a barrister, love him to bits.

good, I don't hate lawyers either.

I've got friends who are barristers, one was recently called to the bar v proud of him

A barrister isn’t a lawyer though

True, lawyers are money grabbing people with questionable parentage.

Barristers help them feel less guilty, m’lord.

Oh can’t wait for this. Can you elaborate

‘Twas tongue in cheek, there are massive differences in in all levels and types of areas and people who represent the law.

I studied law (international contract law)

For a great number of years, appears the law hasn’t developed a sense of humour yet.

If you mention Carbolic Smoke, I’ll block you!

Sounds like a legal threat

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information "

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The world of law is vast and many solicitors have higher advice rights and represent. I know the ones I work with do daily.

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over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

says*

Dude you are so wrong. I can't even tell you how wrong you are. You are wrong

tell me. It’s fact. Use facts if you disagree

It's 13 minutes to 1am. 12 minutes to now "

Thought so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The world of law is vast and many solicitors have higher advice rights and represent. I know the ones I work with do daily.

Give me an example then

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information "

The word lawyer just means someone who practices law. Barristers and solicitors are both lawyers.

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The world of law is vast and many solicitors have higher advice rights and represent. I know the ones I work with do daily.

Give me an example then"

Possibly 50% of the legal files in my office right now.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The world of law is vast and many solicitors have higher advice rights and represent. I know the ones I work with do daily.

Give me an example then"

Family law solicitors can and do stand up in family courts and advocate for their client.

Source: my own experience in a family court

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information

The word lawyer just means someone who practices law. Barristers and solicitors are both lawyers. "

But OP says lawyer and is talking about a solicitor as such, I use the threads terminology

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

Nope, I am not a lawyer of any sort

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over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The world of law is vast and many solicitors have higher advice rights and represent. I know the ones I work with do daily.

Okay so tell me, can I go to jail for flirting with you?

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

Nope, I am not a lawyer of any sort

Obviously. You just copy and paste of the reliable Wiki

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law.."

So what do you do

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do"

As above. That’s all you need to know

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

The difference between a lawyer and a barrister depending upon type of case involved if complex it'll involve a barrister.

Solicitor and advocate.

Further knowledge if needed read up on Archibald it's a law book which is the practice of law on anything and can help...

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know "

Admin then

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know "

Case closed.

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then"

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The way you are all arguing indicates that you are all lawyers

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

Nope, I am not a lawyer of any sort

Obviously. You just copy and paste of the reliable Wiki

I have cited my sources on both occasions, yes. I haven't suggested at any point that I wrote the info myself

Wikipedia is sometimes reliable, sometimes not. When it repeats info on the professional body website for conveyancers, it's fine to cite. Fab would not permit links to the

Society of Licensed Conveyancers, but it does to Wiki.

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The world of law is vast and many solicitors have higher advice rights and represent. I know the ones I work with do daily.

Okay so tell me, can I go to jail for flirting with you?

You’ll just get hard labour for that.

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Paralegal

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Obviously you aren’t a legal admin then

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Obviously you aren’t a legal admin then"

I love it when you spit your dummy out

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So what's the difference between a lawyer, a solicitor and a barrister?

Solicitors and Barristers are both lawyers but barristers have higher advocacy rights and do more specialised representations in courts. totally wrong.

How so?

One simple one. One stands up in court. The other days nothing

Incorrect.

So the barrister isn’t the one standing up in court and presenting his case and questioning? That what you’re saying? I’d do some research

Not in every court no. That would depend on the grade of the solicitor and the type of court. I suggest you do your own research.

Wrong. Crown court. The barrister does the above. A lawyer collates the information

You’re barking up the wrong tree. The world of law is vast and many solicitors have higher advice rights and represent. I know the ones I work with do daily.

Okay so tell me, can I go to jail for flirting with you?

You’ll just get hard labour for that. "

Would that be incase of successful flirting or I'll get hard labour for nothing?

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Obviously you aren’t a legal admin then

I love it when you spit your dummy out

Cute. Shame I havent

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Obviously you aren’t a legal admin then

I love it when you spit your dummy out

Cute. Shame I havent"

You’re inferring I’m not knowledgable. That’s lowering the standard of discussion. If you have any further valid points please feel free to discuss them.

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Obviously you aren’t a legal admin then

I love it when you spit your dummy out

Cute. Shame I havent

You’re inferring I’m not knowledgable. That’s lowering the standard of discussion. If you have any further valid points please feel free to discuss them. "

Consider myself and kinky couple as your judges

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By *ogerBottomsMan
over a year ago

Aberdare

"Sorry I don't agree.

They advise not decide.

They often deal with less than ideal or lose lose situations.

Not sure you can write them all off.

If yours isn't helping then highlight the issue and or change. "

Yep. I wouldn't want to buy a house without having a solicitor to go through the boring details. They deal with this stuff daily, so they'll spot things I wouldn't.

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over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Obviously you aren’t a legal admin then

I love it when you spit your dummy out

Cute. Shame I havent

You’re inferring I’m not knowledgable. That’s lowering the standard of discussion. If you have any further valid points please feel free to discuss them. "

Jumping to assumptions there

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

To return to the OP, yes, dealing with conveyancers (solicitor or otherwise qualified person) can be excruciating yes. Anything that involves two sets of legal bods, plus the need for searches into other areas like the Land Registry, coal mining authority, water boards, local council building control perhaps. Then you're always going to hit delays. Some property is harder to fathom the legal status of than others.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Obviously you aren’t a legal admin then

I love it when you spit your dummy out

Cute. Shame I havent

You’re inferring I’m not knowledgable. That’s lowering the standard of discussion. If you have any further valid points please feel free to discuss them.

Consider myself and kinky couple as your judges

I judge Saffron knows her shit

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"To return to the OP, yes, dealing with conveyancers (solicitor or otherwise qualified person) can be excruciating yes. Anything that involves two sets of legal bods, plus the need for searches into other areas like the Land Registry, coal mining authority, water boards, local council building control perhaps. Then you're always going to hit delays. Some property is harder to fathom the legal status of than others."

It will all be good if they bloody read the paper anyway it's good to get it out of my chest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wait a minute.. is any one of you aware of what you are on about? You all sound like my lawyer. Are you even lawyers?

No but I work with solicitors and barristers in a different part of law..

So what do you do

As above. That’s all you need to know

Admin then

As it happens no. But legal admins are very knowledgable so wouldn’t be an insult

Obviously you aren’t a legal admin then

I love it when you spit your dummy out

Cute. Shame I havent

You’re inferring I’m not knowledgable. That’s lowering the standard of discussion. If you have any further valid points please feel free to discuss them.

Consider myself and kinky couple as your judges

I judge Saffron knows her shit

I am pure biased towards her so whatever she says I'm in agreement

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

There are all sorts of doctors in the health service, just wouldn’t want a thoracic surgeon messing with my brain.

To me law (and yes I I’m involved) is multi complexed.

Does it creat complexity, yes it does, does that increase prices, to me it does.

Sometimes it makes a mockery out of common sense.

Times, it is the wisdom of Solomon.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There are all sorts of doctors in the health service, just wouldn’t want a thoracic surgeon messing with my brain.

To me law (and yes I I’m involved) is multi complexed.

Does it creat complexity, yes it does, does that increase prices, to me it does.

Sometimes it makes a mockery out of common sense.

Times, it is the wisdom of Solomon."

Just read the paper properly and make the client feel like he/she is getting good value

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"There are all sorts of doctors in the health service, just wouldn’t want a thoracic surgeon messing with my brain.

To me law (and yes I I’m involved) is multi complexed.

Does it creat complexity, yes it does, does that increase prices, to me it does.

Sometimes it makes a mockery out of common sense.

Times, it is the wisdom of Solomon.

Just read the paper properly and make the client feel like he/she is getting good value

Funny thing choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yup. Tbh the one we have at the minute is dragging his heels which we don’t mind so much in regards to my nans estate because when that goes through I’m having to get a mortgage…. Something I don’t want to do while on mat leave. But my son was 18 earlier in the year and solicitor had money in trust for him from my parents dying and we still don’t have it yet

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