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"If they want to watch the movies they learn the language " Have you imagined how wonderful it would be to be able to watch international movie in a language you learnt? | |||
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"On of our best holidays ever was the beautiful country Austria. The place where we went had virtually no Brits it's was lovely. Clean and quiet,no yobs running amok every night apart from the German obsession with getting the sunbeds before everyone else it was a fantastic holiday. Fuerteventura was another place we went right down to Jandia at that point mainly German and Italian tourists. Once again very quiet and clean. It's hardly surprising that Brits are universally hated throughout Europe as from our experience most seem to act like demented chimp's. Lads on tour We love camping but have decided to give it a miss this year due to the shear volume of middle class yobs who will be going. We really are a bunch of assholes aren't we?" Well the island I'm at the English are the dominant class here, but they do all love us here, we're all very well behaved and respectful to every one. I think it maybe because we're mainly all windsurfers and sailers. It's really mainly only windsurfers and sailers that come here. Unfortunately due to Covid this year and last not many people could make it. Which has a huge impact on the economy. | |||
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"Don't you feel guilty when you're abroad, like in Germany, Spain, Greece, Italy ect, in that we seem and do expect everyone to speak English. Yet we don't speak thier languages at all. I mean I've been coming to this Greek island over many years and the locals all know me and I have become really good friends with some. Yet they all speak English to us. And it's a tiny fishing village. I mean it's not even a city like Athens. The average European can speak minimum 2 languages, some 4. " I spend lots of time in France and try to speak in French as much as possible - you get treated differently if you make the effort, even if it’s a poor effort. You should at least learn the basics of thank you and please for any country you visit. | |||
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"Don't you feel guilty when you're abroad, like in Germany, Spain, Greece, Italy ect, in that we seem and do expect everyone to speak English. Yet we don't speak thier languages at all. I mean I've been coming to this Greek island over many years and the locals all know me and I have become really good friends with some. Yet they all speak English to us. And it's a tiny fishing village. I mean it's not even a city like Athens. The average European can speak minimum 2 languages, some 4. I spend lots of time in France and try to speak in French as much as possible - you get treated differently if you make the effort, even if it’s a poor effort. You should at least learn the basics of thank you and please for any country you visit." I agree. With Duolingo and similar apps it's not difficult | |||
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"I always make sure I can speak few words of the language of any country we go to. We used to go to Greece regularly so I took evening classes, I can speak some French anyway, I used Duolingo to learn a bit of Portuguese and some Spanish, I have family in Japan and quite a lot of Japanese friends so can speak a bit of Japanese too. I don't think all British expect everyone else to speak English but I agree that lots do" This ^^^ We don't have to be perfect at a particular language - just making the effort puts a smile on the locals' faces and it literally opens doors. | |||
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"English is the international language. Can those same Greeks speak French, German, Italian and Spanish or do they just use English for any non-Greek person?" English is an international way of communicating for sure. That said, the Dutch for example usually speak 4 languages : Dutch, English, French and German. in addition sometimes Spanish/ Italian In Germany they learn at least three other languages (in higher education) and at least one or two if you do not go on to A levels. I think it is fun to learn another language and it offers an insight to their culture and way of life. For example some languages have multiple words for something where other languages do not even have one. | |||
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"English is the international language. Can those same Greeks speak French, German, Italian and Spanish or do they just use English for any non-Greek person?" Oh wow I have one Greek friend who can speak like 4 languages. They don't just speak English. | |||
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"I always make sure I can speak few words of the language of any country we go to. We used to go to Greece regularly so I took evening classes, I can speak some French anyway, I used Duolingo to learn a bit of Portuguese and some Spanish, I have family in Japan and quite a lot of Japanese friends so can speak a bit of Japanese too. I don't think all British expect everyone else to speak English but I agree that lots do This ^^^ We don't have to be perfect at a particular language - just making the effort puts a smile on the locals' faces and it literally opens doors. " It really does. It can lead to some hilarious mix ups too. I told a Spanish person our 14 year old daughter was 40 | |||
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"On of our best holidays ever was the beautiful country Austria. The place where we went had virtually no Brits it's was lovely. Clean and quiet,no yobs running amok every night apart from the German obsession with getting the sunbeds before everyone else it was a fantastic holiday. Fuerteventura was another place we went right down to Jandia at that point mainly German and Italian tourists. Once again very quiet and clean. It's hardly surprising that Brits are universally hated throughout Europe as from our experience most seem to act like demented chimp's. Lads on tour We love camping but have decided to give it a miss this year due to the shear volume of middle class yobs who will be going. We really are a bunch of assholes aren't we?" -------- Hmmm... the post title was English People abroad.... but now it's about Brits..... Interesting. ----------- | |||
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"For all the Brit Bashing I was on holiday near Lake Garda in Italy with my black wife. The Austrian and German tourists muttered and scowled as we walked past. The Italians were ok except for their Mussolini and Hitler wines! I don’t think we are hated as much more liberal than themselves." I have spent some time working across Austria in the past for a company that teaches English short courses in the state schools. Many people do seem to hold racist views and in one town near the German border they have a large Turkish population. They are segregated to one area and not treated very well by the locals, including the children that were born in Austria. I was a bit shocked at the attitudes I witnessed. | |||
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"For all the Brit Bashing I was on holiday near Lake Garda in Italy with my black wife. The Austrian and German tourists muttered and scowled as we walked past. The Italians were ok except for their Mussolini and Hitler wines! I don’t think we are hated as much more liberal than themselves. I have spent some time working across Austria in the past for a company that teaches English short courses in the state schools. Many people do seem to hold racist views and in one town near the German border they have a large Turkish population. They are segregated to one area and not treated very well by the locals, including the children that were born in Austria. I was a bit shocked at the attitudes I witnessed." I thought historically Turkish people have integrated into Austrian society over a hundred years. But I never knew there was a race issue. | |||
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"For all the Brit Bashing I was on holiday near Lake Garda in Italy with my black wife. The Austrian and German tourists muttered and scowled as we walked past. The Italians were ok except for their Mussolini and Hitler wines! I don’t think we are hated as much more liberal than themselves. I have spent some time working across Austria in the past for a company that teaches English short courses in the state schools. Many people do seem to hold racist views and in one town near the German border they have a large Turkish population. They are segregated to one area and not treated very well by the locals, including the children that were born in Austria. I was a bit shocked at the attitudes I witnessed. I thought historically Turkish people have integrated into Austrian society over a hundred years. But I never knew there was a race issue. " Austrians are also very “sniffy” about Hungarians even though they were part of the same Empire and many families inter married. I think history has coloured Austria’s view of Turkey as they once conquered Austria. The ideal for Austrians are that they should be tall, athletic, suntanned, blond and blue eyed. | |||
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