FabSwingers.com forum: Are the cops unfit for the job

By *irtyold man OP Man
over a year ago

barnsley

In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

I think 99.9% of police interactions turn out great. And you’ve cherry picked a few bad example to suggest the police in general aren’t good.

Are there improvements to be made? Yes. Are the entire police force as a collective useless? Obviously not

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

I believe some are unfit for their job. Thats far to much if a generalization.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of my besties is a cop and one of the most, if not THE most honest, loving and gentle people going! Don't tar everyone with the same brush! Theres good and bad everywhere, in every profession.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"One of my besties is a cop and one of the most, if not THE most honest, loving and gentle people going! Don't tar everyone with the same brush! Theres good and bad everywhere, in every profession."

I dont know why this surprises people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Police.

Not cops we live in Great Britain.

I think for they do a great job and considering the restrictions placed on resources they actually do a fantastic job.

There's always going to be people who are crap at their job's and abuse their positions.

Unfortunately if the police do this it's going to have a far more serious impact than say the local manager at Asda fucking up.

Don't be sucked into the anti establishment propaganda that's rife at the moment and don't confuse our police with those across the pond.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think 99.9% of police interactions turn out great. And you’ve cherry picked a few bad example to suggest the police in general aren’t good.

Are there improvements to be made? Yes. Are the entire police force as a collective useless? Obviously not "

Very much this

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Are there improvements to be made? Yes. Are the entire police force as a collective useless? Obviously not "

This

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln

Are *x profession* unfit for the job based on a handful of events out of literally millions, carried out by a handful of individuals from a cast of tens of thousands?...

LvM

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things"

And replace with what OP?

Every organisation has its bad apples I am pretty sure that whatever was to replace it would be the same. It not the people that need to change it the regulation, recruitment, training and oversight that need improving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're gonna find wankers in any job though. It doesn't mean all cops are bad though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think 99.9% of police interactions turn out great. And you’ve cherry picked a few bad example to suggest the police in general aren’t good.

Are there improvements to be made? Yes. Are the entire police force as a collective useless? Obviously not "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah there’s a few bellends but I’d probably say it’s better than 20-30 years back. We hear about more stuff now through social media. Yeah there’s improvements to be made but it’s not panic stations to me.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things"

Perhaps we should put some of these moron's marching in London today in charge and police us, that's obviously going to end well.

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

Our police as whole do a marvelous job. There always a few bad apples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If anyone has watched or cares to watch the riots in Swansea the other night, search YouTube Swansea may hill riots and see that the police did fuck all to help the residents. They should have gone there with armed response and just battered the little cunts.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

The members of the police force are recruited from society, they will therefore be a cross sectional representation of that society. If you want to change the police you will have to start with society.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"If anyone has watched or cares to watch the riots in Swansea the other night, search YouTube Swansea may hill riots and see that the police did fuck all to help the residents. They should have gone there with armed response and just battered the little cunts. "

And then got absolutely lambasted on social media for being too heavy handed!

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

I would agree with others on the whole our police force in the UK do a brilliant job, you can't tar the whole force with the same brush as a few bad apples, I dare say if you looked at the figures for incidents they get called to verses reported issues with them it would show it is still a very tiny percentage of issues

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things"

It is a fact that there are SOME "cops" are not fit for purpose. This is the same for most jobs, I've even been served burgers at McDonalds by people who weren't fit for their job.

99.99% of police officers are very much fit for the job.

Cal

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By *arriLadMan
over a year ago

North West

Iv encountered some of the best police and some of the worst, You get good and bad in every profession

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By *ussybagderMan
over a year ago

Salford

Not all but jeeez some should never put that stupid custom on

They do absolutely nothing when criminals are threatening people n assaulting people infront off them but when a poor working man or woman is just sitting or walking mind their own business these clowns harass them n detain them for absolutely nothing

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things"

stop having the police investigating the police would be a start..

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

Some are but I'd like to think that most aren't.

There are good and bad in every profession...the police will be no different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And then got absolutely lambasted on social media for being too heavy handed!"

I don’t think anyone would have said that they were too heavy handed with these scum bags of society. They should have come out full force. Watch the videos on YouTube.

There’s other videos on my Facebook (cos I’m close to that area) what wasn’t shown was further up towards where I am, all those shuts trying coming into our area and all the older hard nuts (men and women) came out of their houses and marched them out of the street threatening to kill them all and had the riot police hiding behind them

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

"I think 99.9% of police interactions turn out great. And you’ve cherry picked a few bad example to suggest the police in general aren’t good.

Are there improvements to be made? Yes. Are the entire police force as a collective useless? Obviously not "

This. And alot of the time they are equally as frustrated as they don't have the staff and they don't get the results despite of all their hard work.

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By *ussybagderMan
over a year ago

Salford

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things

It is a fact that there are SOME "cops" are not fit for purpose. This is the same for most jobs, I've even been served burgers at McDonalds by people who weren't fit for their job.

99.99% of police officers are very much fit for the job.

Cal"
wooooow that burger comparison tho damn dude

Police are public servant they get paid to protect and serve the public and the have lots of responsibility thes people are educated and they are supposed to know the law and to compare that to a 16 year old inexperienced kid that works in macci for £4,60 jeez help us god

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are lucky your not in Africa.

Because we had the right to hit beat and pistol whip anyone protesting or causing trouble. And often these hard locals would be beaten back at the station for days.

Even women got the rifle butt in the face if she was mouthing off.

India is the same, use to club people breaking the law, whip them in the street and slap women in the face.

You are very lucky here.

Be thankful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i went with a copper once when he stripped of he had bnp tattoo on his bum and legs i asked him to get dressed and leave .... a bnp guy in the police is a very scary thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i went with a copper once when he stripped of he had bnp tattoo on his bum and legs i asked him to get dressed and leave .... a bnp guy in the police is a very scary thought"

It is illegal to be a member of anything like that when you are a serving police officer.

You should have reported him to the ombudsman or police commissioner

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

"You are lucky your not in Africa.

Because we had the right to hit beat and pistol whip anyone protesting or causing trouble. And often these hard locals would be beaten back at the station for days.

Even women got the rifle butt in the face if she was mouthing off.

India is the same, use to club people breaking the law, whip them in the street and slap women in the face.

You are very lucky here.

Be thankful."

Reading that...I'm feeling lucky!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With close friends and family in the met they are under huge stress and inundated with red tape and crazy political correctness. They have a thankless job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You are lucky your not in Africa.

Because we had the right to hit beat and pistol whip anyone protesting or causing trouble. And often these hard locals would be beaten back at the station for days.

Even women got the rifle butt in the face if she was mouthing off.

India is the same, use to club people breaking the law, whip them in the street and slap women in the face.

You are very lucky here.

Be thankful.

Reading that...I'm feeling lucky!

It's a culture thing. Policing is done differently abroad.

There is no interview just a slap and a few more.

Italy can be like that as well

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things

It is a fact that there are SOME "cops" are not fit for purpose. This is the same for most jobs, I've even been served burgers at McDonalds by people who weren't fit for their job.

99.99% of police officers are very much fit for the job.

Calwooooow that burger comparison tho damn dude

But they're all just people and there are good ones & bad ones (and every thing between). To suggest that the whole of the UK's police are not fit for purpose because a few people are wankers is like saying that we should ban driving because some people crash.

Cal

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By *ussybagderMan
over a year ago

Salford

"You are lucky your not in Africa.

Because we had the right to hit beat and pistol whip anyone protesting or causing trouble. And often these hard locals would be beaten back at the station for days.

Even women got the rifle butt in the face if she was mouthing off.

India is the same, use to club people breaking the law, whip them in the street and slap women in the face.

You are very lucky here.

Be thankful."
first of all there are 54 countries in Africa so don't say Africa like it's one country cose am african myself n in my country no body even police put their hands on a woman never ever

U might have been to south Africa n did that but not in Africa

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I dont think it is a case of a few bad apples

..there have been several cases where the problem has been institutional.

I've no doubt the police are doing a difficult job but they do seem to have a culture where they protect each other at all cost.

Look how many people have died in custody and how many have been held accountable.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"I dont think it is a case of a few bad apples

..there have been several cases where the problem has been institutional.

I've no doubt the police are doing a difficult job but they do seem to have a culture where they protect each other at all cost.

Look how many people have died in custody and how many have been held accountable. "

1000s of police interactions daily

Show me the list of things you mentioned?

And it better be a long list to match up with literally 1000s per day of good interactions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things"

How many arrests and incidents have been dealt with across the UK by Police staff? Now how many incidents have you loosely referred to? You've highlighted the fact that actions aren't always completed to the desired result, for a number of reasons. Like in any job. Shall we also bring up every mistake made by checkout operators or doctors?

Try doing that job for a day and tell me you'd do it better.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I dont think it is a case of a few bad apples

..there have been several cases where the problem has been institutional.

I've no doubt the police are doing a difficult job but they do seem to have a culture where they protect each other at all cost.

Look how many people have died in custody and how many have been held accountable.

1000s of police interactions daily

Show me the list of things you mentioned?

And it better be a long list to match up with literally 1000s per day of good interactions "

What the indtitional cock ups?

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things"

Yes I do think they’re unfit for purpose and I’d start change by defunding the police and correctly funding the appropriate social service(s) that should be doing most of the work the police are meant to be dealing with

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By *wingamajigsCouple
over a year ago

Folkestone

Perhaps the OP could volunteer as a special and show them the way ? One thing I have learnt is dont be too judgemental unless you have walked in someone elses shoes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i went with a copper once when he stripped of he had bnp tattoo on his bum and legs i asked him to get dressed and leave .... a bnp guy in the police is a very scary thought

It is illegal to be a member of anything like that when you are a serving police officer.

You should have reported him to the ombudsman or police commissioner"

i never said he was a member i said he had tattoos so maybe hes an ex member but the still recruited him he was a ex marine i was shocked to see it to be honest as i would have thought that tattoo and in the marines would not mix

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Those who complain about the police are usually those who've broken the law and are upset they've been caught. If they can undermine the police with accusations (which will be investigated because that's what we do in a publicly accountable society) to weaken law enforcement then that plays into their hands. So malicious complaints are to be expected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The members of the police force are recruited from society, they will therefore be a cross sectional representation of that society. If you want to change the police you will have to start with society. "

Totally correct. As society descends into the abyss the pool of decent candidates grows ever smaller, so the arsehole percentage grows ever larger. Reap what you sow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dear me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things

stop having the police investigating the police would be a start.."

Serious shit is investigated by the Independent Office for Police Conduct, totally independent of Police and Government.

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By *onguesandpunsMan
over a year ago

East Midlands

Not sure people from ethic minority communities would agree it's just a few bad apples, but some police do do a good job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately we live in a society where no-one wants to take responsibility for their own actions and blame everyone else. The Police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I agree with a lot of the posts, that there are some bad apples, but that's life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have sympathy for anybody in policing. They are up against people breaking the law who are either hardened criminals or at best piss taking twats who think that by bleating about civil liberties and victimisation that they'll get off a relatively minor charge. So it's natural to expect a certain level of pre-emptive aggression from people doing a bloody difficult job.

That said, their remit is a difficult one, often led by politics and optics. Cracking down hard on ER protesters isn't a good look, and it must be difficult to know where to draw the line on cracking heads when you're up against the sort of bloaty pale-tinted gammon that attends antivax or anti BLM protests, lager cans and arsehole attitude in hand.

It's damned if you do, damned if you don't. Am I pissed at getting £100 and 3 points for doing 55 through an automated 40 trap on the M6 when I haven't even been clocked by an actual officer, when I regularly see people driving ridiculously dangerously

like utter arseholes in Brum centre with impunity? Yes, that aspect of policing, the easy low-hanging and not really criminal fruit pisses me off royally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They’re doing a difficult job in difficult circumstances, underfunded and undermanned. As has been said there are a few bad apples as there are in every job or profession, doesn’t mean the majority are working hard and are doing as good a job as possible.

One thing I will say. I work near London Bridge, there have been two terrorist attacks in recent times. Particularly with the one in Borough Market, when the public were running away as fast as possible, the Police were running in the other direction. They deserve some respect just for that.

I’ve known a few Coppers over the years, all been decent people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had to look where you were from op, fully expecting you to be in the USA.

Your description of the uk police isn't a version I recognise so no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why don't you become a cop OP tell us how you get on over the next 12 months

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By *orksRockerMan
over a year ago

Bradford

"Why don't you become a cop OP tell us how you get on over the next 12 months "

OP reminds me of those who speak about the NHS. I know alot of people in NHS who REALLY try under difficult circumstances. Mistakes and bad eggs will still occur. Doesn't mean the system is corrupt.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Police.

Not cops we live in Great Britain.

Fascinating fact - the term 'coppers' was first recorded in England in 1704 meaning "people who catch"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things"

Why just pick on the Police ? What about GP’s ( Harry Shipman for one ) nurses that deliberately killed patients, so does that make everyone in the NHS murderers?

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By *ltrMan
over a year ago

sheffield

I some times take the piss by knocking the couple next door ( hes a traffic cop shes a detective) but I wouldn't have it any other way .They are both

Honest as far as i can see only down side is no rule breaking here as i am sure I would have my collar felt if I broke cov19

Law and had a bq party

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things

stop having the police investigating the police would be a start..

Serious shit is investigated by the Independent Office for Police Conduct, totally independent of Police and Government."

Lesser complaints are investigated by the police ,I was led to believe from another area.. where's the independence there.

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By *hat BlokeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

A policeman is a bad policeman if he lets another policeman get away with breaking the law. Now how many policemen have seen colleagues do dodgy things and let it pass by?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We live in the generation of snowflakes, cops are limited by political red tape these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree that there are certainly some bad eggs in the police force, but that shouldn't get all police tarred with same brush.

Maybe better vetting, constant training throughout career to handle difficult situations better. Regular psychological testing also? Who knows. But defunding and reforming seem not so great ideas in my opinion.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"We live in the generation of snowflakes, cops are limited by political red tape these days."

Yep should go back to the good old days when they banged up innocent people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things"

That’s a bit like saying all humans should be hung, just because a few of them have a propensity to kill one another.

#tar

#brush

#much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the last few years theire have been several things happen that show the cops are no longer fit for purpose.

Recruiting terrorist into the force and not checking refrences

Tazering multipal times then kicking to death.

Ilegaly detaining and asulting women but refusing to admit murder

There are many more instances but would folks agree its time for a serious change in the cops and how they are run.it seems the cops are more corupt than the criminals.

Do you agree and what would you sugest to change things

stop having the police investigating the police would be a start..

Serious shit is investigated by the Independent Office for Police Conduct, totally independent of Police and Government.

Lesser complaints are investigated by the police ,I was led to believe from another area.. where's the independence there.

So lobby your MP for the IOPC to do it all. Forces asked to investigate other forces would be delighted as they have enough on investigating the public.

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