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"Frankly op it's no one's business except the people who choose not to meet others, be that bi, straight, short, tall, thin etc.. And no one has an iota of 'right' to know.. Perhaps just concentrate on those who do meet bi/ bi curious, plenty on the site and out in the world .." Absolutely this. This is the only answer really  | |||
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"Frankly op it's no one's business except the people who choose not to meet others, be that bi, straight, short, tall, thin etc.. And no one has an iota of 'right' to know.. Perhaps just concentrate on those who do meet bi/ bi curious, plenty on the site and out in the world .. Absolutely this. This is the only answer really "That’s not even what was being asked though. | |||
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"I don't think it's homophobia.. the most logical reason would be people who are straight like to play straight. Especially if there's more than one person, maybe they think that person is more likely to want to do sexual stuff with them to. It's preference at the end of the day but I think it's a bit extreme to call someone homophobic if they don't want to play with someone. It could be a million other different reasons." I think that in the instance of one on one meets, between a man and a women, that’s where the question arises | |||
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"I don't think it's homophobia.. the most logical reason would be people who are straight like to play straight. Especially if there's more than one person, maybe they think that person is more likely to want to do sexual stuff with them to. It's preference at the end of the day but I think it's a bit extreme to call someone homophobic if they don't want to play with someone. It could be a million other different reasons." Got to agree with _ea monkey here. It's based in bigotry/prejudice for sure. Also, if the reason for not meeting someone is stated as because they are bi their sexuality is the only reason for that rejection so it is fair to say they are prejudiced against bi people. They are being judged on just their sexuality. The issue on here is that you cannot make people meet who they don't want to meet and that's where the catch all 'preference' comes in to play. | |||
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"I don't think it's homophobia.. the most logical reason would be people who are straight like to play straight. Especially if there's more than one person, maybe they think that person is more likely to want to do sexual stuff with them to. It's preference at the end of the day but I think it's a bit extreme to call someone homophobic if they don't want to play with someone. It could be a million other different reasons." Would be interesting to actually hear what those " Actual million other different reasons are!" | |||
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"Personal choice. I like bi men but others don’t for their own reasons " Yet no one ever expands in what those reasons are. | |||
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"Is it bi-phobia? People thinking you are greedy? I know it's mad but I heard it exists." Biphobia is the ‘correct’ term for phobic attitudes towards bisexual folks, just like transphobia or homophobia. It’s usually used as a coverall for attitudes against bisexual folks that are based on negative stereotypes or ignorance. Thinking that all bisexuals are greedy or cheats, is a very common biphobic attitude | |||
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"I have straight friends, gay friends, bisexual friends and transgender friends so in no way shape or form am i predjudiced , homophobic or bigotted ( apologies for spelling ) but i personally wont play with bi men , i get asked all the time for 3somes with men and when they say they want to play with each other it puts me off i dont want to see it myself, same when i get asked to be in a 3some with another woman i say no as just noy my kind of thing im into straight no frills no kinks fun x x" Ah the old “I have X friend so I can’t be Y” | |||
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"I have straight friends, gay friends, bisexual friends and transgender friends so in no way shape or form am i predjudiced , homophobic or bigotted ( apologies for spelling ) but i personally wont play with bi men , i get asked all the time for 3somes with men and when they say they want to play with each other it puts me off i dont want to see it myself, same when i get asked to be in a 3some with another woman i say no as just noy my kind of thing im into straight no frills no kinks fun x x" So you have an issue with inconsiderate bi men, not all bi men but tar all bi men as being inconsiderate to your boundaries on play meets. Do you see how that is considered as a prejudice against them? I'm not trying to be mean. Just trying to illustrate a point and thankful for you for sharing your reasons as people rarely do in these discussions. | |||
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"I don't think it's homophobia.. the most logical reason would be people who are straight like to play straight. Especially if there's more than one person, maybe they think that person is more likely to want to do sexual stuff with them to. It's preference at the end of the day but I think it's a bit extreme to call someone homophobic if they don't want to play with someone. It could be a million other different reasons. Got to agree with _ea monkey here. It's based in bigotry/prejudice for sure. Also, if the reason for not meeting someone is stated as because they are bi their sexuality is the only reason for that rejection so it is fair to say they are prejudiced against bi people. They are being judged on just their sexuality. The issue on here is that you cannot make people meet who they don't want to meet and that's where the catch all 'preference' comes in to play. " Spot on from the both of you! | |||
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"Personal choice.This ."Choice is based on something though so if you choose not to meet all bisexual people, why is that? | |||
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"Personal choice.This ."Yeah, but that's not what was being asked. We all understand it's personal choice, but the OP is trying to understand WHY people make those choices. Unless I told the woman I was Bi, how could she ever know? What would make her accept the straight Gbat but turn down the Bi Gbat? What does she think I would do differently once she knows I am Bi? That's the crux of it. Gbat | |||
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"Personal choice.This .
Yeah, but that's not what was being asked. We all understand it's personal choice, but the OP is trying to understand WHY people make those choices.
Unless I told the woman I was Bi, how could she ever know? What would make her accept the straight Gbat but turn down the Bi Gbat? What does she think I would do differently once she knows I am Bi?
That's the crux of it.
Gbat"I feel your talking into the void a little here You’ll never get an answer, and you’ll never change someone’s mind. You can’t logic someone into meeting you. I understand it seems silly, but it’s their choice, you’ll never change that. Just put straight on your profile and still play bi when the occasion arrives | |||
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"Personal choice.This ."Why though? Why choose to not have sex with bi men? I notice very few people give a reason for it. | |||
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"How is it any different to saying "won't meet guys under 6ft"? Does that make ladies heightest? " I guess the difference is you could put straight and they’d meet you You couldn’t put 6’1 in your profile then turn up at 5’7 and be greeted with open arms But I still think it’s their choice, however silly it might seems to you, it’s ultimately up to them | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. " I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him | |||
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"A man or woman can turn down anyone for whatever reason they like. From sexual orientation to the colour of someone's eyes to the way they speak. That's how it works. No point getting all wound up about it. " Yes they can, but why not explain why. What puts women off of meeting bi men? Simple question that no one seems to want to answer. | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him " What if he's a top? | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him What if he's a top?" I don’t think that goes through their head. They just think bi guy = getting fucked = lesser of a man. We can’t expect people having these views to have them very well thought out | |||
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"As a bisexual man I fully accept that some people won't want to meet me because of my sexuality - do I think they're prejudiced or bi-phobic or bigoted, or simply expressing a preference? Reality is any or all of the above can apply, sometimes that preference will be rooted in prejudice and bigotry, others it will be ignorance of the facts and stereotyping and in some instances it may well be simply a preference - the key a lot of the time is how it is stated. Some people find the idea of two men having sex a turn off - in the same way as some people don't like some of the myriad of other sexual activities that make up the buffet table of sex and even if that activity isn't expected as part of a meet, the fact the other partner may have indulged in it can be enough to not want to engage if you find the thought of it a turn off - I'd call that a preference so long as it's expressed in reasonable and considerate terms, same as I would if someone said they didn't want to meet me because I like to be spanked. " | |||
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"As a bisexual man I fully accept that some people won't want to meet me because of my sexuality - do I think they're prejudiced or bi-phobic or bigoted, or simply expressing a preference? Reality is any or all of the above can apply, sometimes that preference will be rooted in prejudice and bigotry, others it will be ignorance of the facts and stereotyping and in some instances it may well be simply a preference - the key a lot of the time is how it is stated. Some people find the idea of two men having sex a turn off - in the same way as some people don't like some of the myriad of other sexual activities that make up the buffet table of sex and even if that activity isn't expected as part of a meet, the fact the other partner may have indulged in it can be enough to not want to engage if you find the thought of it a turn off - I'd call that a preference so long as it's expressed in reasonable and considerate terms, same as I would if someone said they didn't want to meet me because I like to be spanked. " Perfectly concisely put Mr Gemini! | |||
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"How is it any different to saying "won't meet guys under 6ft"? Does that make ladies heightest? " Bisexuality isn’t a physical attribute, it’s not a colour or a smell, it won’t prevent you from wearing heels in public or make certain positions difficult. That’s how it’s different | |||
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"You’ll never get an answer, and you’ll never change someone’s mind. You can’t logic someone into meeting you. I understand it seems silly, but it’s their choice, you’ll never change that." I was just hoping to give the OP some moral support. I'm not trying to convince anyone to meet me and certainly not going to try and trick anyone into meeting me. I've got quite a thick skin and not usually very worried by what's posted here. I do think that there are a lot of homophobic people here who don't even realise they are homophobic, but of course that's society at large anyway, isn't it? Gbat | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him " This is very accurate. | |||
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"Personal choice.This .
Why though?
Why choose to not have sex with bi men?
I notice very few people give a reason for it. "Usually because people don’t like to be called a bigot or homophobic. That tends to shut down discussion  | |||
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"How is it any different to saying "won't meet guys under 6ft"? Does that make ladies heightest? Bisexuality isn’t a physical attribute, it’s not a colour or a smell, it won’t prevent you from wearing heels in public or make certain positions difficult. That’s how it’s different " But not meeting bisexual men can just be a preference too? | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men " Some do, and it's true men who have sex with men are a high risk category - but then so are people who have multiple sexual partners such as swingers which seems to elude many that use that as a reason. Although I guess it could come down to individual interpretation of "multiple sexual partners" there but that works both ways - just as not all swingers have different partners every weekend, nor do bisexual/gay men | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men " This is a huge slice of misunderstanding. The consideration that bi guys are more likely to catch STI’s is old medical ignorance from the AIDS epidemic. Even then, they’re in the same ‘at risk’ group as sexually promiscuous adults, such as swingers | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him This is very accurate. " Is it accurate though. Is a straight man feminine or acting submissive when a woman pegs him ? I’d say no, it’s just another dynamic between a man & a woman enjoying a sexual act. | |||
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"How is it any different to saying "won't meet guys under 6ft"? Does that make ladies heightest? Bisexuality isn’t a physical attribute, it’s not a colour or a smell, it won’t prevent you from wearing heels in public or make certain positions difficult. That’s how it’s different But not meeting bisexual men can just be a preference too? " It is, it’s what that preference is based upon that is the basis of the question. | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men This is a huge slice of misunderstanding. The consideration that bi guys are more likely to catch STI’s is old medical ignorance from the AIDS epidemic. Even then, they’re in the same ‘at risk’ group as sexually promiscuous adults, such as swingers" I agree but some might think this | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him What if he's a top? I don’t think that goes through their head. They just think bi guy = getting fucked = lesser of a man. We can’t expect people having these views to have them very well thought out " I suppose not. I can't watch women kissing each other on television, as it turns my stomach. Which is strange as I've enjoyed licking a pussy in the past. | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men Some do, and it's true men who have sex with men are a high risk category - but then so are people who have multiple sexual partners such as swingers which seems to elude many that use that as a reason. Although I guess it could come down to individual interpretation of "multiple sexual partners" there but that works both ways - just as not all swingers have different partners every weekend, nor do bisexual/gay men" when i have my test done (when playing) that every 6 weeks that makes me and many others like me the safest out there as we get constantly checked so again its how you have multiple sexual partners and how you look after your self having multiple sexual partners does not make you unsafe it how you have multiple sexual partners ... | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men This is a huge slice of misunderstanding. The consideration that bi guys are more likely to catch STI’s is old medical ignorance from the AIDS epidemic. Even then, they’re in the same ‘at risk’ group as sexually promiscuous adults, such as swingers" The diseases caught from blood to blood transmission can be deadly; which is what can happen during anal sex. I assume that's what puts some people off meeting bi men. Some people will take more risks than others; some are paranoid. | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him This is very accurate. Is it accurate though. Is a straight man feminine or acting submissive when a woman pegs him ? I’d say no, it’s just another dynamic between a man & a woman enjoying a sexual act. " Yes, it is accurate. Obviously not everyone thinks that but I know enough bisexual people that have experienced that attitude to know that it’s a common reaction | |||
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"Hmmm… I think that preference can be based in phobic or bigoted attitudes, I also think that in the absence of any unifying physical characteristics, it’s hard to claim that not wanting to meet bi guys isn’t some form of bigotry. At the same point though, we can’t police others preferences. That’s up to the individual to do and we can’t make assumptions based on minimal knowledge or understanding. There is a lot of stigma and ignorance surrounding male bisexuality, that could be a large part of the issue too" You rarely see this amount of sense in these forums. Top comment sir .
Strangely, I both agree and disagree. While I agree with what you've said, there are also studies and data that show STIs in the gay and bi community continue to rise. Essentially, you're more likely to contract and pass on an STI if you're a man who has sex with other men, than if you're a man who only fucks women. I'm saying this fully aware that I'm bi!
So I think there may be an element of homophobia based on raw bigotry, or with an element of concern re STIs.
Either way, I always feel sorry for women and couples who won't play with bi men - even as part of a couple..... I'm fucking incredible in bed and they'll never have a chance to experience it. Kinda breaks your heart.  | |||
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"When I played as part of a couple, the bi guys we met apparently could play straight, but when the fun started they couldn't. 3 times in a row it happened so we no longer met bi guys. It is what it is, call it what you like. " And personal experience is a very good example of something becoming a preference without it being phobic in any way - now chances are the next three bi guys you met would have been more respectful, but the three previous prevented you finding that out by the experience they gave you, plain and simple, no bigotry, no phobia, simple experience based preference. That said, and in the interests of balance, if three straight guys had overstepped boundaries in some non-bisexual way - would you have stopped meeting straight guys in the same way? | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him This is very accurate. Is it accurate though. Is a straight man feminine or acting submissive when a woman pegs him ? I’d say no, it’s just another dynamic between a man & a woman enjoying a sexual act. " It’s accurate in that it’s the reasoning behind why a lot of women don’t like the idea of bi guts We’re not saying the opinion itself is accurate Read the post properly | |||
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"A man or woman can turn down anyone for whatever reason they like. From sexual orientation to the colour of someone's eyes to the way they speak. That's how it works. No point getting all wound up about it. " Yes, individually but to say no to All bi people is prejudice because of their sexuality. | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men This is a huge slice of misunderstanding. The consideration that bi guys are more likely to catch STI’s is old medical ignorance from the AIDS epidemic. Even then, they’re in the same ‘at risk’ group as sexually promiscuous adults, such as swingers The diseases caught from blood to blood transmission can be deadly; which is what can happen during anal sex. I assume that's what puts some people off meeting bi men. Some people will take more risks than others; some are paranoid. " Anal sex never happens in heterosexual encounters then? The assumption that bi men don’t use condoms is an odd one | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men This is a huge slice of misunderstanding. The consideration that bi guys are more likely to catch STI’s is old medical ignorance from the AIDS epidemic. Even then, they’re in the same ‘at risk’ group as sexually promiscuous adults, such as swingers The diseases caught from blood to blood transmission can be deadly; which is what can happen during anal sex. I assume that's what puts some people off meeting bi men. Some people will take more risks than others; some are paranoid. " Unprotected oral sex also carry's a very high risk or transmission especially if done after bushing teeth or if you have micro abrasions on your tongue / gum ect | |||
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"When I played as part of a couple, the bi guys we met apparently could play straight, but when the fun started they couldn't. 3 times in a row it happened so we no longer met bi guys. It is what it is, call it what you like. And personal experience is a very good example of something becoming a preference without it being phobic in any way - now chances are the next three bi guys you met would have been more respectful, but the three previous prevented you finding that out by the experience they gave you, plain and simple, no bigotry, no phobia, simple experience based preference. That said, and in the interests of balance, if three straight guys had overstepped boundaries in some non-bisexual way - would you have stopped meeting straight guys in the same way? " Boundaries were never set as in the heat of the moment, anything could happen The only rule we ever had was no bi play between males. If something happened that the gf didn't like it was put a stop too there n then (very rare anything happened she didnt like) | |||
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"A man or woman can turn down anyone for whatever reason they like. From sexual orientation to the colour of someone's eyes to the way they speak. That's how it works. No point getting all wound up about it. Yes, individually but to say no to All bi people is prejudice because of their sexuality. " Aren’t you walking a fine line there though with saying all women have to give up their preferences or else they’re being prejudice? Aren’t you normally fighting for woman being able to pick whoever they want for whatever reason? At what point does a preference become a problem? Are you sexist if your straight? | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him This is very accurate. Is it accurate though. Is a straight man feminine or acting submissive when a woman pegs him ? I’d say no, it’s just another dynamic between a man & a woman enjoying a sexual act. It’s accurate in that it’s the reasoning behind why a lot of women don’t like the idea of bi guts We’re not saying the opinion itself is accurate Read the post properly " I did read the post probably. There are going to be many reasons why women don’t choose to have sex with bi men, each one different but that the men are seen as feminine or submissive I don’t believe is the most accurate reason. | |||
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"I personally love a bi man " | |||
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"How is it any different to saying "won't meet guys under 6ft"? Does that make ladies heightest? Bisexuality isn’t a physical attribute, it’s not a colour or a smell, it won’t prevent you from wearing heels in public or make certain positions difficult. That’s how it’s different " I'm afraid we all have to accept that choices are made based on non physical preferences as much as physical ones. One only has to look at the women's profiles on Tider to see things like 'No tories, no brexiteers, no mask wearers, nobody who's been vaccineted' actually stipulated in the profiles to appreciate that people can and do make whatever choices they want. And we can like it or lump it. That's how it works. | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men This is a huge slice of misunderstanding. The consideration that bi guys are more likely to catch STI’s is old medical ignorance from the AIDS epidemic. Even then, they’re in the same ‘at risk’ group as sexually promiscuous adults, such as swingers The diseases caught from blood to blood transmission can be deadly; which is what can happen during anal sex. I assume that's what puts some people off meeting bi men. Some people will take more risks than others; some are paranoid. Anal sex never happens in heterosexual encounters then? The assumption that bi men don’t use condoms is an odd one " MF anal sex doesn't seem to bother anyone. | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him This is very accurate. Is it accurate though. Is a straight man feminine or acting submissive when a woman pegs him ? I’d say no, it’s just another dynamic between a man & a woman enjoying a sexual act. It’s accurate in that it’s the reasoning behind why a lot of women don’t like the idea of bi guts We’re not saying the opinion itself is accurate Read the post properly I did read the post probably. There are going to be many reasons why women don’t choose to have sex with bi men, each one different but that the men are seen as feminine or submissive I don’t believe is the most accurate reason. " Except you were discussing whether being fucked is submissive or not and if pegging counts You weren’t discussing the point that we think that’s what a lot of women’s opinions are on the matter. So it sounds like you didn’t read the post. Otherwise you would have said “do a lot of women think that though?” Instead of trying to figure out if it’s submissive or not, because that’s not the point I was making | |||
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"A man or woman can turn down anyone for whatever reason they like. From sexual orientation to the colour of someone's eyes to the way they speak. That's how it works. No point getting all wound up about it. Yes, individually but to say no to All bi people is prejudice because of their sexuality. Aren’t you walking a fine line there though with saying all women have to give up their preferences or else they’re being prejudice? Aren’t you normally fighting for woman being able to pick whoever they want for whatever reason? At what point does a preference become a problem? Are you sexist if your straight? " I've never said they have to give up their preferences. I'm just showing how tarring all bi people with the same brush is prejudice. Just because one bi person was a dick doesn't mean all of them will be. Perhaps I'm saying we all have to accept that our preferences are perhaps based in prejudice. | |||
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"How is it any different to saying "won't meet guys under 6ft"? Does that make ladies heightest? Bisexuality isn’t a physical attribute, it’s not a colour or a smell, it won’t prevent you from wearing heels in public or make certain positions difficult. That’s how it’s different I'm afraid we all have to accept that choices are made based on non physical preferences as much as physical ones. One only has to look at the women's profiles on Tider to see things like 'No tories, no brexiteers, no mask wearers, nobody who's been vaccineted' actually stipulated in the profiles to appreciate that people can and do make whatever choices they want. And we can like it or lump it. That's how it works." Pretty much yes. I don’t feel the need to state preferences on my profile much as I will never give reasons for any of them either. There are soooo soooooo many reasons why I wouldn't meet people, some that some people would find quite ridiculous probably. Why does anyone care though? That’s what I don’t get. I couldn't give a toss why you won’t meet size 8 bisexual Lily from Liverpool. | |||
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"A man or woman can turn down anyone for whatever reason they like. From sexual orientation to the colour of someone's eyes to the way they speak. That's how it works. No point getting all wound up about it. Yes, individually but to say no to All bi people is prejudice because of their sexuality. Aren’t you walking a fine line there though with saying all women have to give up their preferences or else they’re being prejudice? Aren’t you normally fighting for woman being able to pick whoever they want for whatever reason? At what point does a preference become a problem? Are you sexist if your straight? I've never said they have to give up their preferences. I'm just showing how tarring all bi people with the same brush is prejudice. Just because one bi person was a dick doesn't mean all of them will be. Perhaps I'm saying we all have to accept that our preferences are perhaps based in prejudice. " I guess, but does being straight make them sexist? Or maybe the idea of being with the same sex just doesn’t turn them on? Kinda how the idea of a bi guy just doesn’t turn them on? Or maybe a bald guy or a short guy? I’m just playing devil’s advocate | |||
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"How is it any different to saying "won't meet guys under 6ft"? Does that make ladies heightest? Bisexuality isn’t a physical attribute, it’s not a colour or a smell, it won’t prevent you from wearing heels in public or make certain positions difficult. That’s how it’s different I'm afraid we all have to accept that choices are made based on non physical preferences as much as physical ones. One only has to look at the women's profiles on Tider to see things like 'No tories, no brexiteers, no mask wearers, nobody who's been vaccineted' actually stipulated in the profiles to appreciate that people can and do make whatever choices they want. And we can like it or lump it. That's how it works." Please don’t misunderstand me, I believe that anyone can choose to meet whoever they want and stipulate their preferences however they want, I also believe that people should understand why those preferences are as they are. If those preferences are based in racism, bigotry, prejudice or ignorance, then it’s up to the person to understand why and work on those personal issues | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him This is very accurate. Is it accurate though. Is a straight man feminine or acting submissive when a woman pegs him ? I’d say no, it’s just another dynamic between a man & a woman enjoying a sexual act. It’s accurate in that it’s the reasoning behind why a lot of women don’t like the idea of bi guts We’re not saying the opinion itself is accurate Read the post properly I did read the post probably. There are going to be many reasons why women don’t choose to have sex with bi men, each one different but that the men are seen as feminine or submissive I don’t believe is the most accurate reason. Except you were discussing whether being fucked is submissive or not and if pegging counts You weren’t discussing the point that we think that’s what a lot of women’s opinions are on the matter. So it sounds like you didn’t read the post. Otherwise you would have said “do a lot of women think that though?” Instead of trying to figure out if it’s submissive or not, because that’s not the point I was making " So I missed out a few words that you think are important. I’m not trying to figure out whether it’s a submissive act or not, I don’t need to. | |||
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"A man or woman can turn down anyone for whatever reason they like. From sexual orientation to the colour of someone's eyes to the way they speak. That's how it works. No point getting all wound up about it. Yes, individually but to say no to All bi people is prejudice because of their sexuality. Aren’t you walking a fine line there though with saying all women have to give up their preferences or else they’re being prejudice? Aren’t you normally fighting for woman being able to pick whoever they want for whatever reason? At what point does a preference become a problem? Are you sexist if your straight? I've never said they have to give up their preferences. I'm just showing how tarring all bi people with the same brush is prejudice. Just because one bi person was a dick doesn't mean all of them will be. Perhaps I'm saying we all have to accept that our preferences are perhaps based in prejudice. I guess, but does being straight make them sexist? Or maybe the idea of being with the same sex just doesn’t turn them on? Kinda how the idea of a bi guy just doesn’t turn them on? Or maybe a bald guy or a short guy? I’m just playing devil’s advocate " But that's a different thing all together isn't it. That's personal sexuality, not a preference on who you would like to meet based on your personal stereotyping of all people of that sexuality. | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men This is a huge slice of misunderstanding. The consideration that bi guys are more likely to catch STI’s is old medical ignorance from the AIDS epidemic. Even then, they’re in the same ‘at risk’ group as sexually promiscuous adults, such as swingers The diseases caught from blood to blood transmission can be deadly; which is what can happen during anal sex. I assume that's what puts some people off meeting bi men. Some people will take more risks than others; some are paranoid. Anal sex never happens in heterosexual encounters then? The assumption that bi men don’t use condoms is an odd one MF anal sex doesn't seem to bother anyone. " So long as they use plenty of lube… | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him This is very accurate. Is it accurate though. Is a straight man feminine or acting submissive when a woman pegs him ? I’d say no, it’s just another dynamic between a man & a woman enjoying a sexual act. It’s accurate in that it’s the reasoning behind why a lot of women don’t like the idea of bi guts We’re not saying the opinion itself is accurate Read the post properly I did read the post probably. There are going to be many reasons why women don’t choose to have sex with bi men, each one different but that the men are seen as feminine or submissive I don’t believe is the most accurate reason. Except you were discussing whether being fucked is submissive or not and if pegging counts You weren’t discussing the point that we think that’s what a lot of women’s opinions are on the matter. So it sounds like you didn’t read the post. Otherwise you would have said “do a lot of women think that though?” Instead of trying to figure out if it’s submissive or not, because that’s not the point I was making So I missed out a few words that you think are important." There we go | |||
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"whats the difference between a straight and bi guy that puts you off? I say again. Ot is purely a prejudice and resides in the realm of homophobia" The difference is we dont want to meet bi guys. We want to meet bi women / women. That's its, plain and simple. Who you have sex with is up to you just as who we have sex with is up to us. You're the one making parallels and implying it might boil down to homophobia. We can fully support your right to be gay or bi without having to have sex with you you know. | |||
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"whats the difference between a straight and bi guy that puts you off? I say again. Ot is purely a prejudice and resides in the realm of homophobia The difference is we dont want to meet bi guys. We want to meet bi women / women. That's its, plain and simple. Who you have sex with is up to you just as who we have sex with is up to us. You're the one making parallels and implying it might boil down to homophobia. We can fully support your right to be gay or bi without having to have sex with you you know. " When you don’t read the topic and completely miss the point  | |||
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"I see the bigotry label being bandied about on this thread quite a bit. For the avoidance of doubt are the bigots the ones who exercise their right not to have sex with someone, or those that have problems accepting that fact?" Bigotry is usually bandied about when this topic pops up - and while it's true that for *some* the reasons for not wanting to meet bisexual men are rooted in bigotry, I'd agree it's a sweeping statement | |||
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"I wonder if people feel it’s sti riskier to meet bi men if they have had sex with other men Some do, and it's true men who have sex with men are a high risk category - but then so are people who have multiple sexual partners such as swingers which seems to elude many that use that as a reason. Although I guess it could come down to individual interpretation of "multiple sexual partners" there but that works both ways - just as not all swingers have different partners every weekend, nor do bisexual/gay men when i have my test done (when playing) that every 6 weeks that makes me and many others like me the safest out there as we get constantly checked so again its how you have multiple sexual partners and how you look after your self having multiple sexual partners does not make you unsafe it how you have multiple sexual partners ... " Absolutely - the "adult" thing to do is have an "adult" conversation about it and make a decision from there based on any levels of trust and respect built etc - sadly something that many here are blinded to in their quest for instant gratification. | |||
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"When I played as part of a couple, the bi guys we met apparently could play straight, but when the fun started they couldn't. 3 times in a row it happened so we no longer met bi guys. It is what it is, call it what you like. And personal experience is a very good example of something becoming a preference without it being phobic in any way - now chances are the next three bi guys you met would have been more respectful, but the three previous prevented you finding that out by the experience they gave you, plain and simple, no bigotry, no phobia, simple experience based preference. That said, and in the interests of balance, if three straight guys had overstepped boundaries in some non-bisexual way - would you have stopped meeting straight guys in the same way? Boundaries were never set as in the heat of the moment, anything could happen The only rule we ever had was no bi play between males. If something happened that the gf didn't like it was put a stop too there n then (very rare anything happened she didnt like) " You've kind of missed my point a little though - while I understand completely why you wouldn't meet bi guys having had three bad experiences - yet if three straight guys in a row had done something your girlfriend didn't like "it was put a stop to there and then" Why the difference? | |||
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"Just out of curiosity as I can't work it out myself. I've been with bi women, I'm attracted to bi women. But if I suddenly decide I don't want to meet bi women anymore, because I'm a stubborn cunt making a point. Does that count as being homophobic - yes I'm singling them out based up on the criteria of them being bi but it is not from a homophobic or hateful place. I'm just a stubborn awkward prick. I'd still hang out with them, treat them as I always have, I just won't have sex with them. NOTE: above is for discussion purpose only." No. I don’t believe it does. If I interviewed someone for a job with my company and I didn’t give them the job because they were bi then I am homophobic and deserve to be punished for that. If I chose not to give my body to someone for whatever reason then I am not racist/homophobic/biphobic/ageist/heightist or anything “ist”. | |||
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"Just out of curiosity as I can't work it out myself. I've been with bi women, I'm attracted to bi women. But if I suddenly decide I don't want to meet bi women anymore, because I'm a stubborn cunt making a point. Does that count as being homophobic - yes I'm singling them out based up on the criteria of them being bi but it is not from a homophobic or hateful place. I'm just a stubborn awkward prick. I'd still hang out with them, treat them as I always have, I just won't have sex with them. NOTE: above is for discussion purpose only. No. I don’t believe it does. If I interviewed someone for a job with my company and I didn’t give them the job because they were bi then I am homophobic and deserve to be punished for that. If I chose not to give my body to someone for whatever reason then I am not racist/homophobic/biphobic/ageist/heightist or anything “ist”. " Yep. Agreed Nora. And I am bi | |||
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"Why do women think that theres any difference between bi guys and straight, physically? I think theres too much prejudice allowed on this site. Its not "just a preference" because, if a guy wasnt honest about being bi, and believe me, there are litterally hundreds, of not thousands of fake straight guys on this sote. They message me all the time. So i ask again...whats the difference between a straight and bi guy that puts you off? I say again. Ot is purely a prejudice and resides in the realm of homophobia" I won't fuck bi guys because I'm homophobic. So what? | |||
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" If I chose not to give my body to someone for whatever reason then I am not racist/homophobic/biphobic/ageist/heightist or anything “ist”. " Totally agree to a point and that point being "for whatever reason" - if that reason is, for example, because you think all bisexual men are "disease ridden faggots" then it completely is phobic, bigoted and prejudiced - if however your reason is somewhat less inflammatory and expressed in considerate and reasonable terms, if at all (as I totally respect a reason doesn't have to be given) then of course it's nothing of the sort. | |||
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"I haven’t read all the posts , but quite a few, so someone may have mentioned this already. Why does anyone have to justify to anyone else who they wish to have sex with. What ever the reason for their choice, be it shaped by a previous experience or the fact that they hold a bigoted view. No one is owed an explanation, and thinking that you are is a bit entitled. As long as the person making the choice is happy with why they are doing it and they can justify it too themselves why should it be a problem. Find people you do share common preferences with instead of getting hot under the collar about those with whom you don’t. " See this is exactly how I think. I think people on here just like to know everything about everyone I honestly couldn’t care less why someone wouldn’t want to meet me, him, her or them! I also think that a lot of people on the forums want reasons in the hope someone’s reason will come across slightly homophobic so they can rip them to shreds. | |||
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"I'm not say it is or isn't but so what if it is. So what if it is homophobic. Sex is far too personal and private (in most cases) that it doesn't matter, if they don't want to have sex with you or anyone for any reason at all they should not have to not should they have to justify why. Do they treat you with respect in all other aspects of life? Are they polite, helpful, friendly, and engaging, showing no other signs of hate at all and treat you as another human being as they do everyone else? Then great they are good people, but nobody should ever be made to feel bad about having to justify who they will or who they won't have sex with regardless of the reason." | |||
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" If I chose not to give my body to someone for whatever reason then I am not racist/homophobic/biphobic/ageist/heightist or anything “ist”. Totally agree to a point and that point being "for whatever reason" - if that reason is, for example, because you think all bisexual men are "disease ridden faggots" then it completely is phobic, bigoted and prejudiced - if however your reason is somewhat less inflammatory and expressed in considerate and reasonable terms, if at all (as I totally respect a reason doesn't have to be given) then of course it's nothing of the sort." Fair point. | |||
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" If I chose not to give my body to someone for whatever reason then I am not racist/homophobic/biphobic/ageist/heightist or anything “ist”. Totally agree to a point and that point being "for whatever reason" - if that reason is, for example, because you think all bisexual men are "disease ridden faggots" then it completely is phobic, bigoted and prejudiced - if however your reason is somewhat less inflammatory and expressed in considerate and reasonable terms, if at all (as I totally respect a reason doesn't have to be given) then of course it's nothing of the sort." Agree. I think what Nora may have meant was for all anybody knows regardless of her own reason it does not mean that she would be an ist. Her reasons are her reasons and she should not be labeled as such based upon the unknown by others when it comes to giving her body to somebody else. She very well could be for all we know, but sex should be sacred in that we should not be judged for not wanting to have sex with x y or z. How we treat them as people, outside regardless of the involvement of sex is the important part. I could not give a fuck if somebody wants to sleep with me or not, for any reason. I may be curious as to why, but whatever. So long as they treat me as a person with respect then that's all that matters. | |||
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" If I chose not to give my body to someone for whatever reason then I am not racist/homophobic/biphobic/ageist/heightist or anything “ist”. Totally agree to a point and that point being "for whatever reason" - if that reason is, for example, because you think all bisexual men are "disease ridden faggots" then it completely is phobic, bigoted and prejudiced - if however your reason is somewhat less inflammatory and expressed in considerate and reasonable terms, if at all (as I totally respect a reason doesn't have to be given) then of course it's nothing of the sort. Agree. I think what Nora may have meant was for all anybody knows regardless of her own reason it does not mean that she would be an ist. Her reasons are her reasons and she should not be labeled as such based upon the unknown by others when it comes to giving her body to somebody else. She very well could be for all we know, but sex should be sacred in that we should not be judged for not wanting to have sex with x y or z. How we treat them as people, outside regardless of the involvement of sex is the important part. I could not give a fuck if somebody wants to sleep with me or not, for any reason. I may be curious as to why, but whatever. So long as they treat me as a person with respect then that's all that matters. " You say it so much better . I was using myself hypothetically by the way, I’ve never refused to meet a man solely because he’s bi. I certainly wouldn’t be giving reasons though if I did x | |||
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"Totally agree to a point and that point being "for whatever reason" - if that reason is, for example, because you think all bisexual men are "disease ridden faggots" then it completely is phobic, bigoted and prejudiced - if however your reason is somewhat less inflammatory and expressed in considerate and reasonable terms, if at all (as I totally respect a reason doesn't have to be given) then of course it's nothing of the sort. Agree. I think what Nora may have meant was for all anybody knows regardless of her own reason it does not mean that she would be an ist. Her reasons are her reasons and she should not be labeled as such based upon the unknown by others when it comes to giving her body to somebody else. She very well could be for all we know, but sex should be sacred in that we should not be judged for not wanting to have sex with x y or z. How we treat them as people, outside regardless of the involvement of sex is the important part. I could not give a fuck if somebody wants to sleep with me or not, for any reason. I may be curious as to why, but whatever. So long as they treat me as a person with respect then that's all that matters. You say it so much better . I was using myself hypothetically by the way, I’ve never refused to meet a man solely because he’s bi. I certainly wouldn’t be giving reasons though if I did x"Haha yes, I did mean to say at the bottom, Nora is for example purposes.  | |||
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" If I chose not to give my body to someone for whatever reason then I am not racist/homophobic/biphobic/ageist/heightist or anything “ist”. Totally agree to a point and that point being "for whatever reason" - if that reason is, for example, because you think all bisexual men are "disease ridden faggots" then it completely is phobic, bigoted and prejudiced - if however your reason is somewhat less inflammatory and expressed in considerate and reasonable terms, if at all (as I totally respect a reason doesn't have to be given) then of course it's nothing of the sort. Agree. I think what Nora may have meant was for all anybody knows regardless of her own reason it does not mean that she would be an ist. Her reasons are her reasons and she should not be labeled as such based upon the unknown by others when it comes to giving her body to somebody else. She very well could be for all we know, but sex should be sacred in that we should not be judged for not wanting to have sex with x y or z. How we treat them as people, outside regardless of the involvement of sex is the important part. I could not give a fuck if somebody wants to sleep with me or not, for any reason. I may be curious as to why, but whatever. So long as they treat me as a person with respect then that's all that matters. " Oh I know and agree with all you've said (as I often do) - and knowing Nora knew exactly where she was coming from, but felt it worth the caveat (a) because others who don't know her may read it differently and (b) because it's Nora
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"I see the bigotry label being bandied about on this thread quite a bit. For the avoidance of doubt are the bigots the ones who exercise their right not to have sex with someone, or those that have problems accepting that fact?" | |||
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"I don't think I have slept with a bi man, well they didn't make it known to me if I did and It wouldn't deter me from pursuing to meet with a guy if he was. BUT I know what I'm like and I know I'd question a lot of things afterwards (in my head). Did I do this or that as good as a man? So I'm wondering if it's some women's insecurities that tell them they shouldn't meet a bi guy? " This is exactly how I used to feel when I was first on here, and had never encountered a bi guy before. I was worried I wouldn't be enough or turn him on. Silly, I know. But it was very much down to ignorance, rather than bigotry, on my part. I definitely didn't care where they put their penis,or drew conclusions due to them being top or bottom! Having now met a couple of wonderful bi guys, it not longer bothers me. The more the merrier, I say! | |||
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"I don't think I have slept with a bi man, well they didn't make it known to me if I did and It wouldn't deter me from pursuing to meet with a guy if he was. BUT I know what I'm like and I know I'd question a lot of things afterwards (in my head). Did I do this or that as good as a man? So I'm wondering if it's some women's insecurities that tell them they shouldn't meet a bi guy? This is exactly how I used to feel when I was first on here, and had never encountered a bi guy before. I was worried I wouldn't be enough or turn him on. Silly, I know. But it was very much down to ignorance, rather than bigotry, on my part. I definitely didn't care where they put their penis,or drew conclusions due to them being top or bottom! Having now met a couple of wonderful bi guys, it not longer bothers me. The more the merrier, I say! " Good to know Red  | |||
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"Alfred Korzybski when talking about semantics coined the phrase, “the map is not the territory”. He explained this by saying, if two lovers went into a wood, would they see it the same as an ornithologist? Also if a lumber Jack went in, would they see it the same as the lover or the ornithologist? Same wood, just different perspective depending what they are/are not looking for. I call it preferences. " Awesome analogy so remembering this! Thanks | |||
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"Alfred Korzybski when talking about semantics coined the phrase, “the map is not the territory”. He explained this by saying, if two lovers went into a wood, would they see it the same as an ornithologist? Also if a lumber Jack went in, would they see it the same as the lover or the ornithologist? Same wood, just different perspective depending what they are/are not looking for. I call it preferences. " This is so clever I had to read it twice to understand it …actually three times | |||
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"I don't think I have slept with a bi man, well they didn't make it known to me if I did and It wouldn't deter me from pursuing to meet with a guy if he was. BUT I know what I'm like and I know I'd question a lot of things afterwards (in my head). Did I do this or that as good as a man? So I'm wondering if it's some women's insecurities that tell them they shouldn't meet a bi guy? This is exactly how I used to feel when I was first on here, and had never encountered a bi guy before. I was worried I wouldn't be enough or turn him on. Silly, I know. But it was very much down to ignorance, rather than bigotry, on my part. I definitely didn't care where they put their penis,or drew conclusions due to them being top or bottom! Having now met a couple of wonderful bi guys, it not longer bothers me. The more the merrier, I say! " Yeh I do think that question would come to mind too! I'm the same, I just worry about stupid things haha! Glad you overcame it though! | |||
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"I don't think I have slept with a bi man, well they didn't make it known to me if I did and It wouldn't deter me from pursuing to meet with a guy if he was. BUT I know what I'm like and I know I'd question a lot of things afterwards (in my head). Did I do this or that as good as a man? So I'm wondering if it's some women's insecurities that tell them they shouldn't meet a bi guy? This is exactly how I used to feel when I was first on here, and had never encountered a bi guy before. I was worried I wouldn't be enough or turn him on. Silly, I know. But it was very much down to ignorance, rather than bigotry, on my part. I definitely didn't care where they put their penis,or drew conclusions due to them being top or bottom! Having now met a couple of wonderful bi guys, it not longer bothers me. The more the merrier, I say! Good to know Red "  | |||
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"I don't think I have slept with a bi man, well they didn't make it known to me if I did and It wouldn't deter me from pursuing to meet with a guy if he was. BUT I know what I'm like and I know I'd question a lot of things afterwards (in my head). Did I do this or that as good as a man? So I'm wondering if it's some women's insecurities that tell them they shouldn't meet a bi guy? This is exactly how I used to feel when I was first on here, and had never encountered a bi guy before. I was worried I wouldn't be enough or turn him on. Silly, I know. But it was very much down to ignorance, rather than bigotry, on my part. I definitely didn't care where they put their penis,or drew conclusions due to them being top or bottom! Having now met a couple of wonderful bi guys, it not longer bothers me. The more the merrier, I say! Yeh I do think that question would come to mind too! I'm the same, I just worry about stupid things haha! Glad you overcame it though! "Thanks, Lovely. I had a lot of fun overcoming it  | |||
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"When I played as part of a couple, the bi guys we met apparently could play straight, but when the fun started they couldn't. 3 times in a row it happened so we no longer met bi guys. It is what it is, call it what you like. And personal experience is a very good example of something becoming a preference without it being phobic in any way - now chances are the next three bi guys you met would have been more respectful, but the three previous prevented you finding that out by the experience they gave you, plain and simple, no bigotry, no phobia, simple experience based preference. That said, and in the interests of balance, if three straight guys had overstepped boundaries in some non-bisexual way - would you have stopped meeting straight guys in the same way? Boundaries were never set as in the heat of the moment, anything could happen The only rule we ever had was no bi play between males. If something happened that the gf didn't like it was put a stop too there n then (very rare anything happened she didnt like) You've kind of missed my point a little though - while I understand completely why you wouldn't meet bi guys having had three bad experiences - yet if three straight guys in a row had done something your girlfriend didn't like "it was put a stop to there and then" Why the difference? " The difference being no boundaries had been over stepped. If we had rules in place and they was broken every time, then yes we would have excluded single straight guys and given up. | |||
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"It’s both preference and homophobia surely? It might not be right but it is their choice. I’ve had guys say no because I’m bi. Some of even said they were worried I’d touch them. I mean. Yeah we are going to touch? Because if you put 3 people in a bed -around a size6 5’ person, you’re not going to able to help it. The there’s a very distinct difference between touching and touching. I’m rather proud of my will power to not sexually assault a man as soon as I see his penis. “This bedroom has been bisexual male assault free for.. 112fays”. I need that poster on my room. On other platforms, one couple suddenly said no when I mentioned it. “What if I hadn’t mentioned it?” “we’d have tested you on the day..” “Eh? How” “Ask you do something manly” (clearly bullshitting). “Like what? Put up shelves? Change a wheel? I can’t rebuild a 426ciu,in V8 HEMI and I can guarantee I still stuck better than your wife does” No point trying to convince them. Pigeons+Arguing+strutting+etc. So meh. No one is worrying like that over. " "Do something manly". I'm going to use that as a test in the future. | |||
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"I'm not say it is or isn't but so what if it is. So what if it is homophobic. Sex is far too personal and private (in most cases) that it doesn't matter, if they don't want to have sex with you or anyone for any reason at all they should not have to not should they have to justify why. Do they treat you with respect in all other aspects of life? Are they polite, helpful, friendly, and engaging, showing no other signs of hate at all and treat you as another human being as they do everyone else? Then great they are good people, but nobody should ever be made to feel bad about having to justify who they will or who they won't have sex with regardless of the reason." I love this  and its true. Sexual attraction is a natural thing and no one should be made to justify it.
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"I don't think I have slept with a bi man, well they didn't make it known to me if I did and It wouldn't deter me from pursuing to meet with a guy if he was. BUT I know what I'm like and I know I'd question a lot of things afterwards (in my head). Did I do this or that as good as a man? So I'm wondering if it's some women's insecurities that tell them they shouldn't meet a bi guy? This is exactly how I used to feel when I was first on here, and had never encountered a bi guy before. I was worried I wouldn't be enough or turn him on. Silly, I know. But it was very much down to ignorance, rather than bigotry, on my part. I definitely didn't care where they put their penis,or drew conclusions due to them being top or bottom! Having now met a couple of wonderful bi guys, it not longer bothers me. The more the merrier, I say! Good to know Red
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"It’s both preference and homophobia surely? It might not be right but it is their choice. I’ve had guys say no because I’m bi. Some of even said they were worried I’d touch them. I mean. Yeah we are going to touch? Because if you put 3 people in a bed -around a size6 5’ person, you’re not going to able to help it. The there’s a very distinct difference between touching and touching. I’m rather proud of my will power to not sexually assault a man as soon as I see his penis. “This bedroom has been bisexual male assault free for.. 112fays”. I need that poster on my room. On other platforms, one couple suddenly said no when I mentioned it. “What if I hadn’t mentioned it?” “we’d have tested you on the day..” “Eh? How” “Ask you do something manly” (clearly bullshitting). “Like what? Put up shelves? Change a wheel? I can’t rebuild a 426ciu,in V8 HEMI and I can guarantee I still stuck better than your wife does” No point trying to convince them. Pigeons+Arguing+strutting+etc. So meh. No one is worrying like that over. " Well said mate | |||
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"It’s both preference and homophobia surely? It might not be right but it is their choice. I’ve had guys say no because I’m bi. Some of even said they were worried I’d touch them. I mean. Yeah we are going to touch? Because if you put 3 people in a bed -around a size6 5’ person, you’re not going to able to help it. The there’s a very distinct difference between touching and touching. I’m rather proud of my will power to not sexually assault a man as soon as I see his penis. “This bedroom has been bisexual male assault free for.. 112fays”. I need that poster on my room. On other platforms, one couple suddenly said no when I mentioned it. “What if I hadn’t mentioned it?” “we’d have tested you on the day..” “Eh? How” “Ask you do something manly” (clearly bullshitting). “Like what? Put up shelves? Change a wheel? I can’t rebuild a 426ciu,in V8 HEMI and I can guarantee I still stuck better than your wife does” No point trying to convince them. Pigeons+Arguing+strutting+etc. So meh. No one is worrying like that over. Well said mate" I’m not allowed to use the word I want to. It’s gets me a 4 day ban on the forum. | |||
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"TBH I'm not right arsed It doesn't mean they hate me or hate what I represent, it means they don't wanna fuck me and that's cool " you are absolutely right bussy  xx | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him " But what about men that like being pegged? Doesn't make them less of a man | |||
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"I've read people saying that thinking of the cock being in another man's arse puts them off, but straight men fuck womens' arses too. I think it’s the idea of being fucked being seen as submissive or feminine. So they feel like he’s less of a man if he’s had that done to him But what about men that like being pegged? Doesn't make them less of a man" Preference? She likes ducking girls pussy/ass with step, but not guys. She enjoys watching me fuck guys, but me fucking girl anal? Meh. So many reasons it all could be. Confidence. Too much or little control. Purpose? Etc etc | |||
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"Why do women think that theres any difference between bi guys and straight, physically? I think theres too much prejudice allowed on this site. Its not "just a preference" because, if a guy wasnt honest about being bi, and believe me, there are litterally hundreds, of not thousands of fake straight guys on this sote. They message me all the time. So i ask again...whats the difference between a straight and bi guy that puts you off? I say again. Ot is purely a prejudice and resides in the realm of homophobia" I think it’s probably instilled concept from when we are young. Because for whatever reason, being bi as a woman is widely more accepted. I think a lot have this concept that if a guy is bisexual, is in fact either a nympho, or actually a closeted gay. So… yeah go figure | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you." nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia | |||
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"I don't think it's homophobia.. the most logical reason would be people who are straight like to play straight. Especially if there's more than one person, maybe they think that person is more likely to want to do sexual stuff with them to. It's preference at the end of the day but I think it's a bit extreme to call someone homophobic if they don't want to play with someone. It could be a million other different reasons." i dissagree and for this reason being bi doesnt mean you simply have to play with both partners, we do have self control and if you were to put 2 guys together, without knowing their sexuality, theres no difference at all. The issue is with that persons sexuality, which makes it homophobia | |||
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"I'm fine with bi guys two of my fwbs are bi and I'm totally OK with it. " good for you im glad to hear ot. I would get i cant date short guys as im tall, or not into beards etc, but to use someones sexuality as if it makes a difference...ismt good. | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia" So what if a straight guy didn’t want a mfm threesome with a bi guy. Is that homophobia too? | |||
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"people can say no to whom ever they wish for whatever reason they wish im bi my hubs is bi thats fully bi not swinger bi and both sinces teens yet i find myself avoiding alot of bi men not because they are bi but because of there behavior ...theres a massive different between a real bi guy than the any hole is a goal bi guy " | |||
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"Lets just clear a few thing up...i havent been turned down and now angry about it, im not desperate. I do understand the meaning of preference, such as not into tall or short people, Or people with beards, pubic hair, no pubic hair etc. But to single out someone for their sexual identity..os in essence homophobic because theres nothing physical which separates that person from a straight person, the prejudice is purely sexuality and that is why im calling it put, especially when there are tons of fake straight guys on here. At least guys identifying honestly as bi are just that...honest...and for the record, have a better idea of personal space and respect." Doesn’t matter how much you call it out, people will choose to give their body to whoever they want to regardless of reasons and whether they give them or not and no matter how many threads like this there are. If someone refused to have a drink with me or sit at my table because I’m bi then that’s homophobia, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with me because I’m bi (whatever their reason) then that is not homophobia. Totally different. | |||
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"Lets just clear a few thing up...i havent been turned down and now angry about it, im not desperate. I do understand the meaning of preference, such as not into tall or short people, Or people with beards, pubic hair, no pubic hair etc. But to single out someone for their sexual identity..os in essence homophobic because theres nothing physical which separates that person from a straight person, the prejudice is purely sexuality and that is why im calling it put, especially when there are tons of fake straight guys on here. At least guys identifying honestly as bi are just that...honest...and for the record, have a better idea of personal space and respect. Doesn’t matter how much you call it out, people will choose to give their body to whoever they want to regardless of reasons and whether they give them or not and no matter how many threads like this there are. If someone refused to have a drink with me or sit at my table because I’m bi then that’s homophobia, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with me because I’m bi (whatever their reason) then that is not homophobia. Totally different. " The perfect summary this , noubt more needs to be said | |||
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"Lets just clear a few thing up...i havent been turned down and now angry about it, im not desperate. I do understand the meaning of preference, such as not into tall or short people, Or people with beards, pubic hair, no pubic hair etc. But to single out someone for their sexual identity..os in essence homophobic because theres nothing physical which separates that person from a straight person, the prejudice is purely sexuality and that is why im calling it put, especially when there are tons of fake straight guys on here. At least guys identifying honestly as bi are just that...honest...and for the record, have a better idea of personal space and respect. Doesn’t matter how much you call it out, people will choose to give their body to whoever they want to regardless of reasons and whether they give them or not and no matter how many threads like this there are. If someone refused to have a drink with me or sit at my table because I’m bi then that’s homophobia, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with me because I’m bi (whatever their reason) then that is not homophobia. Totally different. " I don’t understand this. The op is that somebody doesn’t want to have sex with you for no other reason than you are bi (at least that’s the way I read it): Your sexuality is their only reason. How is that different than not having a drink with you because you are bi? | |||
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"Lets just clear a few thing up...i havent been turned down and now angry about it, im not desperate. I do understand the meaning of preference, such as not into tall or short people, Or people with beards, pubic hair, no pubic hair etc. But to single out someone for their sexual identity..os in essence homophobic because theres nothing physical which separates that person from a straight person, the prejudice is purely sexuality and that is why im calling it put, especially when there are tons of fake straight guys on here. At least guys identifying honestly as bi are just that...honest...and for the record, have a better idea of personal space and respect. Doesn’t matter how much you call it out, people will choose to give their body to whoever they want to regardless of reasons and whether they give them or not and no matter how many threads like this there are. If someone refused to have a drink with me or sit at my table because I’m bi then that’s homophobia, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with me because I’m bi (whatever their reason) then that is not homophobia. Totally different. I don’t understand this. The op is that somebody doesn’t want to have sex with you for no other reason than you are bi (at least that’s the way I read it): Your sexuality is their only reason. How is that different than not having a drink with you because you are bi?" You can’t see a difference!!?? Ok so you think that not offering a job to someone due to their sexuality is the same as not wanting to have sex with someone because of their sexuality? | |||
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"Lets just clear a few thing up...i havent been turned down and now angry about it, im not desperate. I do understand the meaning of preference, such as not into tall or short people, Or people with beards, pubic hair, no pubic hair etc. But to single out someone for their sexual identity..os in essence homophobic because theres nothing physical which separates that person from a straight person, the prejudice is purely sexuality and that is why im calling it put, especially when there are tons of fake straight guys on here. At least guys identifying honestly as bi are just that...honest...and for the record, have a better idea of personal space and respect. Doesn’t matter how much you call it out, people will choose to give their body to whoever they want to regardless of reasons and whether they give them or not and no matter how many threads like this there are. If someone refused to have a drink with me or sit at my table because I’m bi then that’s homophobia, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with me because I’m bi (whatever their reason) then that is not homophobia. Totally different. I don’t understand this. The op is that somebody doesn’t want to have sex with you for no other reason than you are bi (at least that’s the way I read it): Your sexuality is their only reason. How is that different than not having a drink with you because you are bi? You can’t see a difference!!?? Ok so you think that not offering a job to someone due to their sexuality is the same as not wanting to have sex with someone because of their sexuality? " If you are otherwise attracted to that person in all aspects and the only reason stopping you from having sex with them is their sexuality, yes, I do. | |||
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"Lets just clear a few thing up...i havent been turned down and now angry about it, im not desperate. I do understand the meaning of preference, such as not into tall or short people, Or people with beards, pubic hair, no pubic hair etc. But to single out someone for their sexual identity..os in essence homophobic because theres nothing physical which separates that person from a straight person, the prejudice is purely sexuality and that is why im calling it put, especially when there are tons of fake straight guys on here. At least guys identifying honestly as bi are just that...honest...and for the record, have a better idea of personal space and respect. Doesn’t matter how much you call it out, people will choose to give their body to whoever they want to regardless of reasons and whether they give them or not and no matter how many threads like this there are. If someone refused to have a drink with me or sit at my table because I’m bi then that’s homophobia, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with me because I’m bi (whatever their reason) then that is not homophobia. Totally different. I don’t understand this. The op is that somebody doesn’t want to have sex with you for no other reason than you are bi (at least that’s the way I read it): Your sexuality is their only reason. How is that different than not having a drink with you because you are bi? You can’t see a difference!!?? Ok so you think that not offering a job to someone due to their sexuality is the same as not wanting to have sex with someone because of their sexuality? If you are otherwise attracted to that person in all aspects and the only reason stopping you from having sex with them is their sexuality, yes, I do." Where do you draw the line though? I’ve been attracted to people in every way but I won’t because they have a beard, I absolutely cannot stand beards they actually make me squirm. Same with height. Surely that’s prejudiced? I’ve been very much attracted to someone in every way possible but I haven’t met them because of the dislike I have for someone who they have met/are meeting is too overwhelming. I just can’t. It’s choice! | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia" But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. " I see your point. I think that the inferred point is that ‘if’ you are, to think about why it is. No one wants or likes to be an ‘ist’ but I tend to agree, just name calling and shouting is just entrenching opinion and resentment. No one should ever meet anyone that they don’t want to, whatever the reason for those choices | |||
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"Lets just clear a few thing up...i havent been turned down and now angry about it, im not desperate. I do understand the meaning of preference, such as not into tall or short people, Or people with beards, pubic hair, no pubic hair etc. But to single out someone for their sexual identity..os in essence homophobic because theres nothing physical which separates that person from a straight person, the prejudice is purely sexuality and that is why im calling it put, especially when there are tons of fake straight guys on here. At least guys identifying honestly as bi are just that...honest...and for the record, have a better idea of personal space and respect. Doesn’t matter how much you call it out, people will choose to give their body to whoever they want to regardless of reasons and whether they give them or not and no matter how many threads like this there are. If someone refused to have a drink with me or sit at my table because I’m bi then that’s homophobia, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with me because I’m bi (whatever their reason) then that is not homophobia. Totally different. I don’t understand this. The op is that somebody doesn’t want to have sex with you for no other reason than you are bi (at least that’s the way I read it): Your sexuality is their only reason. How is that different than not having a drink with you because you are bi? You can’t see a difference!!?? Ok so you think that not offering a job to someone due to their sexuality is the same as not wanting to have sex with someone because of their sexuality? If you are otherwise attracted to that person in all aspects and the only reason stopping you from having sex with them is their sexuality, yes, I do. Where do you draw the line though? I’ve been attracted to people in every way but I won’t because they have a beard, I absolutely cannot stand beards they actually make me squirm. Same with height. Surely that’s prejudiced? I’ve been very much attracted to someone in every way possible but I haven’t met them because of the dislike I have for someone who they have met/are meeting is too overwhelming. I just can’t. It’s choice!" When you mention beard or height there is a physical visible attribute which makes them less attractive to you and therefore I understand. When it’s about their sexuality or past partner, I don’t. I believe that is point of the op: if that person didn’t disclose their sexuality, you wouldn’t have a problem. The issue only arises because of their sexuality. Personally, that’s the bit I don’t understand: what makes a bisexual person less attractive to a straight person? The fact that they sleep with other person of the same sex? | |||
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"Lets just clear a few thing up...i havent been turned down and now angry about it, im not desperate. I do understand the meaning of preference, such as not into tall or short people, Or people with beards, pubic hair, no pubic hair etc. But to single out someone for their sexual identity..os in essence homophobic because theres nothing physical which separates that person from a straight person, the prejudice is purely sexuality and that is why im calling it put, especially when there are tons of fake straight guys on here. At least guys identifying honestly as bi are just that...honest...and for the record, have a better idea of personal space and respect. Doesn’t matter how much you call it out, people will choose to give their body to whoever they want to regardless of reasons and whether they give them or not and no matter how many threads like this there are. If someone refused to have a drink with me or sit at my table because I’m bi then that’s homophobia, if someone doesn’t want to have sex with me because I’m bi (whatever their reason) then that is not homophobia. Totally different. I don’t understand this. The op is that somebody doesn’t want to have sex with you for no other reason than you are bi (at least that’s the way I read it): Your sexuality is their only reason. How is that different than not having a drink with you because you are bi? You can’t see a difference!!?? Ok so you think that not offering a job to someone due to their sexuality is the same as not wanting to have sex with someone because of their sexuality? If you are otherwise attracted to that person in all aspects and the only reason stopping you from having sex with them is their sexuality, yes, I do. Where do you draw the line though? I’ve been attracted to people in every way but I won’t because they have a beard, I absolutely cannot stand beards they actually make me squirm. Same with height. Surely that’s prejudiced? I’ve been very much attracted to someone in every way possible but I haven’t met them because of the dislike I have for someone who they have met/are meeting is too overwhelming. I just can’t. It’s choice! When you mention beard or height there is a physical visible attribute which makes them less attractive to you and therefore I understand. When it’s about their sexuality or past partner, I don’t. I believe that is point of the op: if that person didn’t disclose their sexuality, you wouldn’t have a problem. The issue only arises because of their sexuality. Personally, that’s the bit I don’t understand: what makes a bisexual person less attractive to a straight person? The fact that they sleep with other person of the same sex? " Maybe yes. To some it might. I don’t see the issue! | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. I see your point. I think that the inferred point is that ‘if’ you are, to think about why it is. No one wants or likes to be an ‘ist’ but I tend to agree, just name calling and shouting is just entrenching opinion and resentment. No one should ever meet anyone that they don’t want to, whatever the reason for those choices" I understand why people should think about why they are perhaps homophobic or racist in general terms. But not relating to sex. I have no idea why I fancy Chris Pratt but not Tom Hardy. Both are handsome muscly men with brown hair and beards. I don't know how I can berate myself for not fancying Tom Hardy and try to improve. | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. I see your point. I think that the inferred point is that ‘if’ you are, to think about why it is. No one wants or likes to be an ‘ist’ but I tend to agree, just name calling and shouting is just entrenching opinion and resentment. No one should ever meet anyone that they don’t want to, whatever the reason for those choices I understand why people should think about why they are perhaps homophobic or racist in general terms. But not relating to sex. I have no idea why I fancy Chris Pratt but not Tom Hardy. Both are handsome muscly men with brown hair and beards. I don't know how I can berate myself for not fancying Tom Hardy and try to improve. "Well I personally can’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to bounce on Tom Hardy! | |||
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"whats the difference between a straight and bi guy that puts you off? I say again. Ot is purely a prejudice and resides in the realm of homophobia The difference is we dont want to meet bi guys. We want to meet bi women / women. That's its, plain and simple. Who you have sex with is up to you just as who we have sex with is up to us. You're the one making parallels and implying it might boil down to homophobia. We can fully support your right to be gay or bi without having to have sex with you you know. When you don’t read the topic and completely miss the point "No point missed at all so stop projecting. It's the people on this site assuming homophobia is inferred just because people wont meet bi guys for whatever arbitrary reason they have. If no one can respect that, they're the ones missing the point. There does not have to be a justification. | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. I see your point. I think that the inferred point is that ‘if’ you are, to think about why it is. No one wants or likes to be an ‘ist’ but I tend to agree, just name calling and shouting is just entrenching opinion and resentment. No one should ever meet anyone that they don’t want to, whatever the reason for those choices I understand why people should think about why they are perhaps homophobic or racist in general terms. But not relating to sex. I have no idea why I fancy Chris Pratt but not Tom Hardy. Both are handsome muscly men with brown hair and beards. I don't know how I can berate myself for not fancying Tom Hardy and try to improve.
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. I see your point. I think that the inferred point is that ‘if’ you are, to think about why it is. No one wants or likes to be an ‘ist’ but I tend to agree, just name calling and shouting is just entrenching opinion and resentment. No one should ever meet anyone that they don’t want to, whatever the reason for those choices I understand why people should think about why they are perhaps homophobic or racist in general terms. But not relating to sex. I have no idea why I fancy Chris Pratt but not Tom Hardy. Both are handsome muscly men with brown hair and beards. I don't know how I can berate myself for not fancying Tom Hardy and try to improve.
Well I personally can’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to bounce on Tom Hardy!
I am a Tomophobe. "The point of the argument though is, let’s say that Chris Pratt was chatting with you, you’re attracted to him, then find out that he’s bisexual. If your attraction disappears, why would that be? He’s not changed in appearance, it won’t affect the encounter between you so what’s the issue? | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. I see your point. I think that the inferred point is that ‘if’ you are, to think about why it is. No one wants or likes to be an ‘ist’ but I tend to agree, just name calling and shouting is just entrenching opinion and resentment. No one should ever meet anyone that they don’t want to, whatever the reason for those choices I understand why people should think about why they are perhaps homophobic or racist in general terms. But not relating to sex. I have no idea why I fancy Chris Pratt but not Tom Hardy. Both are handsome muscly men with brown hair and beards. I don't know how I can berate myself for not fancying Tom Hardy and try to improve.
Well I personally can’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to bounce on Tom Hardy!
I am a Tomophobe.
The point of the argument though is, let’s say that Chris Pratt was chatting with you, you’re attracted to him, then find out that he’s bisexual.
If your attraction disappears, why would that be? He’s not changed in appearance, it won’t affect the encounter between you so what’s the issue? "Because the thought of 2 men together is a turn off presumably. Kills the horn. What if I find out he's married. Or that he himself is a homophobic straight man. At that point the attraction disappears... would those reasons be ok to change my mind about fucking him? | |||
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"But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? " I think it's important that people know that it is. Self awareness is important. "Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. " It isn't, but only you are responsible for your feelings. Gbat | |||
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" There does not have to be a justification." I think you've missed the point. The OP asked for reasons not justifications. Big difference. Gbat | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. I see your point. I think that the inferred point is that ‘if’ you are, to think about why it is. No one wants or likes to be an ‘ist’ but I tend to agree, just name calling and shouting is just entrenching opinion and resentment. No one should ever meet anyone that they don’t want to, whatever the reason for those choices I understand why people should think about why they are perhaps homophobic or racist in general terms. But not relating to sex. I have no idea why I fancy Chris Pratt but not Tom Hardy. Both are handsome muscly men with brown hair and beards. I don't know how I can berate myself for not fancying Tom Hardy and try to improve.
Well I personally can’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to bounce on Tom Hardy!
I am a Tomophobe.
The point of the argument though is, let’s say that Chris Pratt was chatting with you, you’re attracted to him, then find out that he’s bisexual.
If your attraction disappears, why would that be? He’s not changed in appearance, it won’t affect the encounter between you so what’s the issue?
Because the thought of 2 men together is a turn off presumably. Kills the horn.
What if I find out he's married. Or that he himself is a homophobic straight man.
At that point the attraction disappears... would those reasons be ok to change my mind about fucking him? "Is the revulsion at the thought of gay sex a homophobic reaction though? Many people would say that it is. As I said, any reason not to fuck him is fine, if you decide that you don’t like his belt is a valid reason. It’s what the reason means to you that’s the point, I think. If it’s coming from a homophobic attitude, what does that mean for you? Do you think to yourself “I’m a bit homophobic here, maybe I should think why that is” or do you buy a banjo, get a confederate flag and just enjoy yourself? | |||
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"What does Gbat mean?" It's my user name. Giving Bi a try. Gbat. | |||
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"Ultimately what does it matter. I assume this is because it is on a profile or somebody has said no to you. Either way even if they didn't express the reason they are still not going to meet you. nobody has said no to me, i wouldnt dream of entertaining people with prejudice anyway and im not desperate. I just dont like to see homophobia dressed up as preference. Put a naked bi guy at the side of a naked straight guy, whats the difference? Its the sexuality of that person that is the issue and that...is homophobia But so what if it is actual homophobia? What if I'm a homophobic racist that will only fuck straight white men? Feels like name calling to try and guilt trip people into fucking someone they're not attracted to. I see your point. I think that the inferred point is that ‘if’ you are, to think about why it is. No one wants or likes to be an ‘ist’ but I tend to agree, just name calling and shouting is just entrenching opinion and resentment. No one should ever meet anyone that they don’t want to, whatever the reason for those choices I understand why people should think about why they are perhaps homophobic or racist in general terms. But not relating to sex. I have no idea why I fancy Chris Pratt but not Tom Hardy. Both are handsome muscly men with brown hair and beards. I don't know how I can berate myself for not fancying Tom Hardy and try to improve.
Well I personally can’t see why anyone wouldn’t want to bounce on Tom Hardy!
I am a Tomophobe.
The point of the argument though is, let’s say that Chris Pratt was chatting with you, you’re attracted to him, then find out that he’s bisexual.
If your attraction disappears, why would that be? He’s not changed in appearance, it won’t affect the encounter between you so what’s the issue?
Because the thought of 2 men together is a turn off presumably. Kills the horn.
What if I find out he's married. Or that he himself is a homophobic straight man.
At that point the attraction disappears... would those reasons be ok to change my mind about fucking him?
Is the revulsion at the thought of gay sex a homophobic reaction though? Many people would say that it is.
As I said, any reason not to fuck him is fine, if you decide that you don’t like his belt is a valid reason.
It’s what the reason means to you that’s the point, I think. If it’s coming from a homophobic attitude, what does that mean for you? Do you think to yourself “I’m a bit homophobic here, maybe I should think why that is” or do you buy a banjo, get a confederate flag and just enjoy yourself? "His belt!
Sorry if I seem argumentative, I'm not. I'm smiling here.
I suppose if someone is out with the banjo and flag they aren't the type to consider the pros and cons of being homophobic anyway.
I suppose the question really is "what is homophobia?"
I might find men A & B shagging repulsive but men C & D shagging hot as fuck. Can homophobia be part time/ compartmentalised... | |||
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"Personal choice.This .
Yeah, but that's not what was being asked. We all understand it's personal choice, but the OP is trying to understand WHY people make those choices.
Unless I told the woman I was Bi, how could she ever know? What would make her accept the straight Gbat but turn down the Bi Gbat? What does she think I would do differently once she knows I am Bi?
That's the crux of it.
Gbat"That's the thing with choices especially on a site like this ,one had to explain themselves. People do what they feel comfortable with and what makes yhem happy. For some people this site is an escape from the normal world and they can do as they please. You see profiles of straight woman who will only meet couples and not single men yet there's no physical difference between a single and a married man. Concentrate on profiles that look for the same as you and skip those that are not ,it's that simple. No one owes anyone an explanation when It comes to their choices. | |||
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