FabSwingers.com forum: Duchenne versus the real thing...

By *phrodite OP Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Cam across this on my travels through the net (actually a TED talk) and found imt hugely interesting in how this affects how we are perceived by others but also how it can make us feel...

"The Duchenne smile is an expression that signals true enjoyment. It occurs when the zygomaticus major muscle lifts the corners of your mouth at the same time the orbicularis oculi muscles lift your cheeks and crinkle your eyes at the corners."

So, how does it feel when somebody smiles and it just doesn't quite feel genuine?

Equally, what does it feel when we smile at somebody but our heart is not in it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you pronounce duchenne?

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

DCS Patricia Carmichael from Line Of Duty must hold the award for most insincere smile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How do you pronounce duchenne?

doo-shen (admittedly best guess, I'm no cunning linguist, but....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you understand duchenne? Is a horrible genetic disease?

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By *eepjoyMan
over a year ago

truro

I have only heard of Duchenne Dystrophy. Never a Duchenene smile. Is the type of smile a symptom of DD?

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By *phrodite OP Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Apologies, should have explained.

So in the 1860s, Duchenne documented the use of electrical current to isolate the contraction of facial muscles in a genuine smile.

The human smile is a powerful thing. To elevate mood, inspire empathy, or calm a fast-beating heart, you don’t need a gleaming row of perfect pearly whites. One YouTube baby-laugh video is enough to demonstrate that even an entirely toothless smile is a wonder-worker.

Researchers who study the effects of human smiles know that the Duchenne smile is among the most influential of human expressions.

A Duchenne smile is the one that reaches your eyes, making the corners wrinkle up with crow’s feet. It’s the smile most of us recognize as the most authentic expression of happiness.

Non-Duchenne smiles shouldn’t necessarily be considered “fake,” however. A more accurate way of describing them might be “polite.”

Pronunciation I heard was something like "doo - shen"

Me being a bit nerdy at times, just found it interesting how the spontaneous change of facial features to form an expression can be such a powerful thing.

Happy "Dooshen" everybody

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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hate it when people do thatfake smile thing ie not smiling with their eyes. To me it signifies dislike or fake amusement. Some people smile with just their mouth when they're talking to you about things that don't require a smile and that feels to me as if they're patronising me.

If I smile without using my eyes it's because I don't like the person but I'm in a situation where a smile is required, it's very rare that happens because I'd sooner not smile at all in that case.

I didn't know there was a name for it

...genuine smile

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"hate it when people do thatfake smile thing ie not smiling with their eyes. To me it signifies dislike or fake amusement. Some people smile with just their mouth when they're talking to you about things that don't require a smile and that feels to me as if they're patronising me.

If I smile without using my eyes it's because I don't like the person but I'm in a situation where a smile is required, it's very rare that happens because I'd sooner not smile at all in that case.

I didn't know there was a name for it

...genuine smile

I do fake smile a lot, but it's in meetings or giving lectures and I'm secretly a bag of nerves. But I'm trying hard to look a little bit professional or a bit approachable.

If it towards an individual I don't like, my face will say that.

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By *phrodite OP Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Unfortunately, (or maybe fortunately?) my face is a give away when I don't like somebody or something that has been said.

Sometimes people pose for a photograph and that is being seen as a fake smile (and therefore, it is not half as attractive as the kind of smile that perhaps makes you look less pretty but is genuine? My kids love photos of me when I belly laugh... they find that cut as opposed to the pictures where I am posing and trying to look good

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

I find it impossible to smile like that for a selfie, and I hate my 'fake' smile, so most of my photos end up looking moody

I'm much more smiley in person though

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