FabSwingers.com forum: Balkans racism... Fifa showing true colours

By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

OK so at the same time as maximum drama has been made about taking the knee to...(not entirely sure what to put here)... Increase awareness of racism? Is that right...

A Serbian who plays for Austria... Abuses an opponent who is Albanian... For being Albanian... The player has history of this.

Am fifa... With an opportunity to flex its muscles and show they mean business... And kick the player out of the tournament... Punish him by banning him for one paltry match.

There's no place for racism. If you're going to pretend to give the impression that it will not be tolerated fifa... Please show you won't tolerate it.

Story here...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57499915

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree, I'm not sure or well informed enough about racism that goes on between the balkand nations, but if he had he said it about another race, there would be a much bigger uproar.

I'm surprised at how little attention it got to be honest. Almost as if people picked up on and then just forgot about it.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

Is that really racism?

Not to defend the action, but that seems the wrong label. More antagonistic nationalism?

Let's face it, if that were a Scottish player and an English player, it would probably be referenced as an example of our old rivalry.

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Is that really racism?

Not to defend the action, but that seems the wrong label. More antagonistic nationalism?

Let's face it, if that were a Scottish player and an English player, it would probably be referenced as an example of our old rivalry."

It's a good point... I don't know enough about it.... But... If said scotsman said...

"you English cu*t

Or Welsh cu*t

Or Indian cu*t

Or paki cu*t (deliberately using abbreviation).... Is that racist or antagonistic nationalism?

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

I was on a training exercise in Croatia a couple of years ago, when asked what the Croatian soldiers thought about Serbs the answer I got was "We fucking hate Serbs, if we find them we kill them, and Russians"

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"OK so at the same time as maximum drama has been made about taking the knee to...(not entirely sure what to put here)... Increase awareness of racism? Is that right...

A Serbian who plays for Austria... Abuses an opponent who is Albanian... For being Albanian... The player has history of this.

Am fifa... With an opportunity to flex its muscles and show they mean business... And kick the player out of the tournament... Punish him by banning him for one paltry match.

There's no place for racism. If you're going to pretend to give the impression that it will not be tolerated fifa... Please show you won't tolerate it.

Story here...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57499915

Cant see the racism there tbh

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Is that really racism?

Not to defend the action, but that seems the wrong label. More antagonistic nationalism?

Let's face it, if that were a Scottish player and an English player, it would probably be referenced as an example of our old rivalry.

It's a good point... I don't know enough about it.... But... If said scotsman said...

"you English cu*t

Or Welsh cu*t

Or Indian cu*t

Or paki cu*t (deliberately using abbreviation).... Is that racist or antagonistic nationalism? "

How many times does the likes of the sun refer to argues,krauts or frogs?

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By *aul_j80Man
over a year ago

Bloxwich

This is not racism as such, this is Balkan mentality, over a 1,000 years of blood feuds, this is similar to Granit Xhaka and Xherdan Shaqiri did to the Serbs in the world cup who did the Albanian Eagle symbol as a goal celebration. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44586587

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

There is a possibility of racism. Serbs are, in the majority of cases, Christians (Orthodox) while around 60% of Albanians are Muslim.

It's described here as nationalism rather than racism: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/marko-arnautovic-what-say-celebration-north-macedonia-austria-euro-2020-racist-apology-1052552

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By *aul_j80Man
over a year ago

Bloxwich

"There is a possibility of racism. Serbs are, in the majority of cases, Christians (Orthodox) while around 60% of Albanians are Muslim.

It's described here as nationalism rather than racism: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/marko-arnautovic-what-say-celebration-north-macedonia-austria-euro-2020-racist-apology-1052552"

Islam Isn't a race it's a religion.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"There is a possibility of racism. Serbs are, in the majority of cases, Christians (Orthodox) while around 60% of Albanians are Muslim.

It's described here as nationalism rather than racism: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/marko-arnautovic-what-say-celebration-north-macedonia-austria-euro-2020-racist-apology-1052552

Islam Isn't a race it's a religion.

I know. Xenophobia then is perhaps a better description than racism? The fact is that Albanians are a different ethnic group to the Serbs, irrespective of religion.

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I may be talking in ignorance here... But whether it be racism (and if I've used it inaccurately... Apologies) or nationalism or antagonism or religionism or any other ism... .. Its a great opportunity for fifa to show they won't tolerate the language of hate in their tournament isn't it?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I may be talking in ignorance here... But whether it be racism (and if I've used it inaccurately... Apologies) or nationalism or antagonism or religionism or any other ism... .. Its a great opportunity for fifa to show they won't tolerate the language of hate in their tournament isn't it? "

The player in question was suspended for a week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is that really racism?

Not to defend the action, but that seems the wrong label. More antagonistic nationalism?

Let's face it, if that were a Scottish player and an English player, it would probably be referenced as an example of our old rivalry."

And there's the problem. Antagonistic nationalism is racism. It is the believe that one's heritage is greater than anothers. That the heritage of another is less than. Those sentiments if allowed to flourish are the start of genocide.

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

The player in question was suspended for a week."

Yep for one game.

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By *utterflyandArtificeCouple
over a year ago

Trowbridge

Agreed there is no place for any -ism in sport or society. Children look up to their sporting heroes and try to emulate them.

Having witnessed the Balkans first hand in Bosnia Herzegovina, Bosnia Republika Serpska and Kosovo in the 1990s, nothing with change anytime soon: It will take a great deal of time to heal.

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