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"An Ofsted inspector says she was shocked to learn of the extent of sexual harassment in schools. If she was shocked then she is in the wrong job." She?! | |||
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"What would be the right job for her Tom?" You choose.. ? Sure she never went to my school 30 years ago... | |||
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"I think I'd be more worried if she wasn't shocked. School is meant to be a safe place. " yes | |||
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"What would be the right job for her Tom? You choose.. ? Sure she never went to my school 30 years ago..." Could be anything Tom. Maybe she wants to jack it all in… jet off to South Africa and start her own Shark diving business??? | |||
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"I am shocked that she is shocked.. What did she expect to find.. Enid Blyton with lashings of ginger beer .. " Maybe she was expecting to find a safe environment for young people to learn in, without the fear of sexual harassment. | |||
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"I am shocked that she is shocked.. What did she expect to find.. Enid Blyton with lashings of ginger beer .. Maybe she was expecting to find a safe environment for young people to learn in, without the fear of sexual harassment. " Well she didn't find that one did she.. Has she ever read Tom Browns School Days? | |||
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"Obviously doesn't spend much time in schools then, it's rampant." Obs | |||
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"I am shocked that she is shocked.. What did she expect to find.. Enid Blyton with lashings of ginger beer .. Maybe she was expecting to find a safe environment for young people to learn in, without the fear of sexual harassment. " No. She was hoping for that.. | |||
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"I am shocked that she is shocked.. What did she expect to find.. Enid Blyton with lashings of ginger beer .. Maybe she was expecting to find a safe environment for young people to learn in, without the fear of sexual harassment. Well she didn't find that one did she.. Has she ever read Tom Browns School Days?" Is that the autobiography where Tom gets touched up and harrassed by the other boys to send the nudes every 5 minute? | |||
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"Its not part of what they are looking for. Its not their fault. Its like complaining that the MOT assessor isnt aware that the car is used for dogging. Im pleased to see it on the radar though." Safeguarding is definitely part of what they are looking for. | |||
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"So let's see their solution to this... It's going to be a bumpy ride ... And your solution fabsters ?" It's going to difficult, seeing the numbers of children being sent nudes etc. Part of me dreads my kids having phones as it opens this world up to them. I'm resisting but many in my eldest class have them at primary school age. I don't know what the solution will be. | |||
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"So let's see their solution to this... It's going to be a bumpy ride ... And your solution fabsters ?" It's a society issue not just a school issue. Some of the things I've heard. Parents need to take some responsibility, it can't be all on the school. | |||
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"Let's put it another way.. Anyone not 'shocked' by the findings ?" Me. Sexual harresment was horrendous when i was at school. Also im aware of girls being manipulated into taking nude photos ect Its 14 years since ive really had anything to do with school age children but youve got to be pretty naive to not know it goes off | |||
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"Let's put it another way.. Anyone not 'shocked' by the findings ?Me. Sexual harresment was horrendous when i was at school. Also im aware of girls being manipulated into taking nude photos ect Its 14 years since ive really had anything to do with school age children but youve got to be pretty naive to not know it goes off" So you were not shocked by the report.. you anticipated it? | |||
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"What would be the right job for her Tom? You choose.. ? Sure she never went to my school 30 years ago..." I'm not sure I understand this comment?! Are you saying that sexual harassment behaviours are OK in school? | |||
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"Let's put it another way.. Anyone not 'shocked' by the findings ?Me. Sexual harresment was horrendous when i was at school. Also im aware of girls being manipulated into taking nude photos ect Its 14 years since ive really had anything to do with school age children but youve got to be pretty naive to not know it goes off" So it's an age old problem. ? I know it .. you know it...so why are OFSTED inspectors shocked.. ? Surely they know it.. if they are truly shocked then they are in the wrong job | |||
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"What would be the right job for her Tom? You choose.. ? Sure she never went to my school 30 years ago... I'm not sure I understand this comment?! Are you saying that sexual harassment behaviours are OK in school? " No | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble" isnt it the same with everything. they do no wrong. | |||
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"So let's see their solution to this... It's going to be a bumpy ride ... And your solution fabsters ? It's going to difficult, seeing the numbers of children being sent nudes etc. Part of me dreads my kids having phones as it opens this world up to them. I'm resisting but many in my eldest class have them at primary school age. I don't know what the solution will be. " There’s some good parental controls on the phones now. My youngest needs my password for most things! I have it so nobody can call or message her other than her contacts, which are family and close school friends. Also have it time limited too so she can’t use it when she goes to bed. | |||
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"Let's put it another way.. Anyone not 'shocked' by the findings ?Me. Sexual harresment was horrendous when i was at school. Also im aware of girls being manipulated into taking nude photos ect Its 14 years since ive really had anything to do with school age children but youve got to be pretty naive to not know it goes off So you were not shocked by the report.. you anticipated it?" I dont know if any report ive not read it but i know 1hat i had to put up with at school. | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble" That's your take from this? Teachers abusing pupils is very rare, female ones even more so, not least as there are more women teachers than men. The biggest perpetrators of abuse at schools are children, boys specifically. It's an age old problem that has had rocket boosters put on it with the help of technology and social media platforms. | |||
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"So let's see their solution to this... It's going to be a bumpy ride ... And your solution fabsters ? It's going to difficult, seeing the numbers of children being sent nudes etc. Part of me dreads my kids having phones as it opens this world up to them. I'm resisting but many in my eldest class have them at primary school age. I don't know what the solution will be. There’s some good parental controls on the phones now. My youngest needs my password for most things! I have it so nobody can call or message her other than her contacts, which are family and close school friends. Also have it time limited too so she can’t use it when she goes to bed. " Thanks Nora looks like I need to get a bit more tech savvy | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble That's your take from this? Teachers abusing pupils is very rare, female ones even more so, not least as there are more women teachers than men. The biggest perpetrators of abuse at schools are children, boys specifically. It's an age old problem that has had rocket boosters put on it with the help of technology and social media platforms." Yeah because it makes me wonder how much more it’s happening and nothings getting reported | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble That's your take from this? Teachers abusing pupils is very rare, female ones even more so, not least as there are more women teachers than men. The biggest perpetrators of abuse at schools are children, boys specifically. It's an age old problem that has had rocket boosters put on it with the help of technology and social media platforms. Yeah because it makes me wonder how much more it’s happening and nothings getting reported " The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. What irks me is when the tabloids report on those rare incidents and the knobhead comments are always "Lucky boy!" and "Wish I had a teacher like like that". The inherent sexism and toxic masculinity of our culture presents men as natural sexual beings and is reluctant to view them as victims. It's so wrong. | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble That's your take from this? Teachers abusing pupils is very rare, female ones even more so, not least as there are more women teachers than men. The biggest perpetrators of abuse at schools are children, boys specifically. It's an age old problem that has had rocket boosters put on it with the help of technology and social media platforms. Yeah because it makes me wonder how much more it’s happening and nothings getting reported The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. What irks me is when the tabloids report on those rare incidents and the knobhead comments are always "Lucky boy!" and "Wish I had a teacher like like that". The inherent sexism and toxic masculinity of our culture presents men as natural sexual beings and is reluctant to view them as victims. It's so wrong." Do we know it’s the vast majority though? Or are far more women getting away with it? I’d just like to see equal treatment when it comes to punishment instead of these slaps on the wrist female teachers seem to get when they’re caught | |||
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"i worry about where all this is going. what happens years down the line to children that have suffered abuse. do they become violent, addicted to drugs, homeless? do we look out enough for our friends and neighbours. we all seem to have lost our way as a community" Funding for education, youth services, social services, community policing and mental health have all been drastically cut. There's a generation of children emerging who have had easy access to extreme porn and are lacking any understanding of healthy relationships. Being a victim of abuse does not mean you will go on to be an abuser although it os often used to excuse violent males and pathologise traumatised women. | |||
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"i worry about where all this is going. what happens years down the line to children that have suffered abuse. do they become violent, addicted to drugs, homeless? do we look out enough for our friends and neighbours. we all seem to have lost our way as a community" One of my teachers was sentenced to 8 years for historic crimes. Two of the boys he abused one is a solicitor and one is an mp | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble That's your take from this? Teachers abusing pupils is very rare, female ones even more so, not least as there are more women teachers than men. The biggest perpetrators of abuse at schools are children, boys specifically. It's an age old problem that has had rocket boosters put on it with the help of technology and social media platforms. Yeah because it makes me wonder how much more it’s happening and nothings getting reported The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. What irks me is when the tabloids report on those rare incidents and the knobhead comments are always "Lucky boy!" and "Wish I had a teacher like like that". The inherent sexism and toxic masculinity of our culture presents men as natural sexual beings and is reluctant to view them as victims. It's so wrong. Do we know it’s the vast majority though? Or are far more women getting away with it? I’d just like to see equal treatment when it comes to punishment instead of these slaps on the wrist female teachers seem to get when they’re caught " Yes we do know that. I don't care who is the perpetrator - ab abuser is an abuser. But let's not kid ourselves that women are equally as likely to abuse as men are, because they really are not. | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble That's your take from this? Teachers abusing pupils is very rare, female ones even more so, not least as there are more women teachers than men. The biggest perpetrators of abuse at schools are children, boys specifically. It's an age old problem that has had rocket boosters put on it with the help of technology and social media platforms. Yeah because it makes me wonder how much more it’s happening and nothings getting reported The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. What irks me is when the tabloids report on those rare incidents and the knobhead comments are always "Lucky boy!" and "Wish I had a teacher like like that". The inherent sexism and toxic masculinity of our culture presents men as natural sexual beings and is reluctant to view them as victims. It's so wrong. Do we know it’s the vast majority though? Or are far more women getting away with it? I’d just like to see equal treatment when it comes to punishment instead of these slaps on the wrist female teachers seem to get when they’re caught Yes we do know that. I don't care who is the perpetrator - ab abuser is an abuser. But let's not kid ourselves that women are equally as likely to abuse as men are, because they really are not." Dunno why your making it into a ego abuses more, it’s not a competition. Let’s focus on getting fair and equal punishment for all abusers instead of turning this into a “who abuses more” passing contest  | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble That's your take from this? Teachers abusing pupils is very rare, female ones even more so, not least as there are more women teachers than men. The biggest perpetrators of abuse at schools are children, boys specifically. It's an age old problem that has had rocket boosters put on it with the help of technology and social media platforms. Yeah because it makes me wonder how much more it’s happening and nothings getting reported The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. What irks me is when the tabloids report on those rare incidents and the knobhead comments are always "Lucky boy!" and "Wish I had a teacher like like that". The inherent sexism and toxic masculinity of our culture presents men as natural sexual beings and is reluctant to view them as victims. It's so wrong. Do we know it’s the vast majority though? Or are far more women getting away with it? I’d just like to see equal treatment when it comes to punishment instead of these slaps on the wrist female teachers seem to get when they’re caught Yes we do know that. I don't care who is the perpetrator - ab abuser is an abuser. But let's not kid ourselves that women are equally as likely to abuse as men are, because they really are not. Dunno why your making it into a ego abuses more, it’s not a competition. Let’s focus on getting fair and equal punishment for all abusers instead of turning this into a “who abuses more” passing contest "If you look back, you'll see it was you who brought the sex of perpetrators into it, not me. I merely corrected you. Funny how it's now.not a gendered issue when it's not the angle you want to hear. The truth is, in order to tackle abuse, it's very important to be honest about the nature and characteristics of both the abusers and victims. | |||
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"Always interesting to see when it’s the female teachers coping off with the students they never get in as much trouble That's your take from this? Teachers abusing pupils is very rare, female ones even more so, not least as there are more women teachers than men. The biggest perpetrators of abuse at schools are children, boys specifically. It's an age old problem that has had rocket boosters put on it with the help of technology and social media platforms. Yeah because it makes me wonder how much more it’s happening and nothings getting reported The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. What irks me is when the tabloids report on those rare incidents and the knobhead comments are always "Lucky boy!" and "Wish I had a teacher like like that". The inherent sexism and toxic masculinity of our culture presents men as natural sexual beings and is reluctant to view them as victims. It's so wrong. Do we know it’s the vast majority though? Or are far more women getting away with it? I’d just like to see equal treatment when it comes to punishment instead of these slaps on the wrist female teachers seem to get when they’re caught Yes we do know that. I don't care who is the perpetrator - ab abuser is an abuser. But let's not kid ourselves that women are equally as likely to abuse as men are, because they really are not. Dunno why your making it into a ego abuses more, it’s not a competition. Let’s focus on getting fair and equal punishment for all abusers instead of turning this into a “who abuses more” passing contest
If you look back, you'll see it was you who brought the sex of perpetrators into it, not me. I merely corrected you. Funny how it's now.not a gendered issue when it's not the angle you want to hear.
The truth is, in order to tackle abuse, it's very important to be honest about the nature and characteristics of both the abusers and victims. "Pretty sure I never made it into a competition? I just said it weird how females get lesser punishments for it Your the one saying that because men do it more we should focus on that. Baducally giving female abusers the pardon | |||
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"The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern." So the biggest concern in your eyes is punishing the male abusers and letting the female ones get away with a slap on the wrist? | |||
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"So let's see their solution to this... It's going to be a bumpy ride ... And your solution fabsters ? It's going to difficult, seeing the numbers of children being sent nudes etc. Part of me dreads my kids having phones as it opens this world up to them. I'm resisting but many in my eldest class have them at primary school age. I don't know what the solution will be. There’s some good parental controls on the phones now. My youngest needs my password for most things! I have it so nobody can call or message her other than her contacts, which are family and close school friends. Also have it time limited too so she can’t use it when she goes to bed. Thanks Nora looks like I need to get a bit more tech savvy " Oh it’s not me. I’m lucky to have a 24 year old too! I know nothing about all this tiktok/insta wotsit etc! | |||
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"OFSTED are a bunch of buffoons. I'm not surprised any of them are shocked." Well they are the inspectors, so they must know something | |||
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"The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. So the biggest concern in your eyes is punishing the male abusers and letting the female ones get away with a slap on the wrist? " Did I say anything close to that? No. | |||
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"The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. So the biggest concern in your eyes is punishing the male abusers and letting the female ones get away with a slap on the wrist? Did I say anything close to that? No. " Well it looks like that’s exactly what you wrote as shown by the quote so I dunno what else to say. I’d just like to see fair and equal punishment across the board. That would be a good start. | |||
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"The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. So the biggest concern in your eyes is punishing the male abusers and letting the female ones get away with a slap on the wrist? Did I say anything close to that? No. Well it looks like that’s exactly what you wrote as shown by the quote so I dunno what else to say. I’d just like to see fair and equal punishment across the board. That would be a good start. " I’m with you on that one my man | |||
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"An Ofsted inspector says she was shocked to learn of the extent of sexual harassment in schools. If she was shocked then she is in the wrong job." I think it’s fair to say the sexualisation of children, social media, anonymity within various parts of the internet (or ability to create anonymous / fake profiles etc), alongside various other societal pressures and the psychology of attraction for some adults, has just built upon the pandemic of these types of offences and they have been underreported for years. Shocking in terms of content, but many professionals have stated they are not surprised by the current state of play. Too much normalisation of things and children so young being able to access things they really shouldn’t. I recoil in horror at these kind of reports. | |||
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"The vast majority of all abusers in all professions. Why are you complaining about women not getting in trouble when men are committing far more acts of abuse? Surely that is the biggest concern. So the biggest concern in your eyes is punishing the male abusers and letting the female ones get away with a slap on the wrist? Did I say anything close to that? No. Well it looks like that’s exactly what you wrote as shown by the quote so I dunno what else to say. I’d just like to see fair and equal punishment across the board. That would be a good start. I’m with you on that one my man"  | |||
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"An Ofsted inspector says she was shocked to learn of the extent of sexual harassment in schools. If she was shocked then she is in the wrong job. I think it’s fair to say the sexualisation of children, social media, anonymity within various parts of the internet (or ability to create anonymous / fake profiles etc), alongside various other societal pressures and the psychology of attraction for some adults, has just built upon the pandemic of these types of offences and they have been underreported for years. Shocking in terms of content, but many professionals have stated they are not surprised by the current state of play. Too much normalisation of things and children so young being able to access things they really shouldn’t. I recoil in horror at these kind of reports. " Sexualisation of kids is huge. I swear all these TikTok challenges are just ways to get kids doing provocative stuff on film. They look at the older most popular users and see skimpy clothing and twerking and all that and they just copy. It’s a pedos dream app. 100,000 of kids uploading “dance” challenges for all too see | |||
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"Find it odd that people are shocked, in an odd way the internet is exposing this practice. Ask the Catholic Church." That’s not a school | |||
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"I am shocked that she is shocked.. What did she expect to find.. Enid Blyton with lashings of ginger beer .. " | |||
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"Its not part of what they are looking for. Its not their fault. Its like complaining that the MOT assessor isnt aware that the car is used for dogging. Im pleased to see it on the radar though." They do look at what is called safe guarding. Maybe she went to a particularly bad school. | |||
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"An Ofsted inspector says she was shocked to learn of the extent of sexual harassment in schools. If she was shocked then she is in the wrong job. She?!" . You’re shocked by the Female inspector? | |||
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"An Ofsted inspector says she was shocked to learn of the extent of sexual harassment in schools. If she was shocked then she is in the wrong job. She?!. You’re shocked by the Female inspector?" I was shocked a woman had no clue. | |||
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"An Ofsted inspector says she was shocked to learn of the extent of sexual harassment in schools. If she was shocked then she is in the wrong job. She?!. You’re shocked by the Female inspector? Ah, yes…. Get that. We need to more to make it visible and viewed as unacceptable by kids peers. They already call out bad behaviours elsewhere, but this is a bit taboo I was shocked a woman had no clue." | |||
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"An Ofsted inspector says she was shocked to learn of the extent of sexual harassment in schools. If she was shocked then she is in the wrong job. She?!. You’re shocked by the Female inspector? *Ah, yes…. Get that. We need to more to make it visible and viewed as unacceptable by kids peers. They already call out bad behaviours elsewhere, but this is a bit taboo * I was shocked a woman had no clue." * But all ages, not just kids. | |||
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